Talk Elections

Very nice! ;)

     The IDS has surged into third place in registration numbers, despite being the only region where the biggest party comprises less than 1/3rd of all voters. :)

Appointing Hans as RG is a GREAT idea.
He will give more rigour to Atlasia. Quite needed...

With the change from Winston to the JCP, the DXP lost the major party status.

Here is a list of all small parties:

Dixiecrat Party 4 members
Chartist Party 3
Anti-Square Party 2
Socialist Liberal Alliance 2
Leipist National Front 1
Euzko Alderdi Jeltzalea 1
State Law and Order Restoration Council 1
Hore takes up painting... 1
Game Reformers of Atlasia 1
Democratic Labour Party 1
Sam Spade Party 1
Republican 1

This week there are 2 new residents in Atlasia :).

Since the Dixicrats have lost their Major party status and normally I must write them to the other parties. But they are still quite active and discuss a name change, maybe they can get a 5th Member.

We're working on that, RG. Currently we have the convention planned for next Friday, so hopefully we'll get that name change accomplished by the end of next weekend so we can get back to recruiting to get a fifth member, and hopefully many more.

EDIT: In the words of George Bush-

"Mission Accomplished"

Yesterday we had many changes in Atlasia. The Futuro e Libertà per L'Atlasia is now a major party and the Dixiecrat's are a major party again.

It seems the future will be very interesting.

And now we have 6 major parties. This is going to be interesting, these new numbers...

Yeah, I'm kinda glad this isn't my job anymore.

:D

I think it was the wrong time to be RG

The Futuro e Libertà per L'Atlasia collapsed.

The UDL is a major party and I will use as color red for them.

The Dixiecrat's lose the major party status. I will wait a week before I put them together with the other parties. Maybe they get the 5th member in this week.

So we're about to overtake the Pops and the RRP ? Awesome. :D

Now this is what I like to see. Parity among all the major parties. No one has a clearly defined edge over any other. Competitive elections (Like the most recent Presidential race) will hopefully become more commonplace.

The JCP is getting some competition...

"getting"?

the JCP is still quite a bit larger, and within regions, party representation is horribly lopsided

For reference:

Region	JCP	RPP	POP	UDL	DXP	Other	Ind	Total
Northeast	10	5	15	5	0	4	5	44
Mideast	5	11	1	4	0	4	2	27
South	4	7	7	1	3	2	2	26
Midwest	7	3	3	9	1	2	1	26
Pacific	11	1	1	5	0	1	3	22
Total	37	27	27	24	4	13	13	145
	25.5%	18.6%	18.6%	16.6%	2.8%	9.0%	9.0%

The DXP has disolved.

Sorry for intruding, but, with my switch and Libertases banning, are the numbers now not:


JCP - 37
UDL - 27
RPP - 26
POP - 26
NI - 28

As one is inclined to follow up on moot points...
What is the law regarding banning? Does it technically affect one's registration? or any official positions one might hold?

Yes, there is a law that says banned members are de-registered.

Libertas is banned and de-registered. De-registration of Banned Members Act
 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/De-registration_of_Banned_Members_Act)

The UDL is the second largest party.

This is a pretty incredible list. When is the last time Atlasia had 4 credible major parties and 3 of the same size?

Thanks, Mr. President. :P

Probably 2006 or thereabouts.

Here are some interesting maps I just made about the strength of each party by region. Shades correspond to Atlas percentages.


JCP :
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UDL :
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RPP :
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POP :
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Awesome maps Antonio

Thanks. :)

Some interesting facts :
- The JCP is the only party to have at least 10% in every region.
- The RPP is the only party to hold a plurality in two different regions : Mideast and Southeast.
- The POPs is the only party not to break 40% in any region.
- The "left" (JCP+UDL) holds an absolute majority in the Pacific and the Midwest.
- The "right" (RPP+POP) overruns the "left" in 3 regions : Mideast, Southeast and Northeast, but hold an absolute majority only in the Southeast.

It's so beautiful!

No big changes to the last time.

No Atlasian has the 4th time missed in an election.

The new constitution mandates removal after three elections.

That is why there were no "3"'s for elections missed in my latest update of the voter list.

Oh, I was sure it was 4 missed elections. I will correct it.

This 5 Atlasians missed 3 elections and they are deregistered.
Section 2: Voter Registration and Voting Rules (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_V_of_the_Third_Constitution#Section_2:_Voter_Registration_and_Voting_Rules)

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The difference to the last election (President):

JCP  -14
UDL  +28
RPP  -1
POP  -2
Oth.  -10
Ind.  -2

Northeast  +2
Mideast  -2
South  nc
Midwest  nc
Pacific  -1

Atlasia, total -1

For historical interest, party statistics as of July 12, 2006:

Region	ACA	ILP	CDP	SDP	AMRLP	FDP	Other	Ind	Total
Northeast	5	4	1	5	0	2	1	6	24
South	4	1	4	0	2	1	5	4	21
Mideast	3	4	4	2	0	0	2	4	19
Pacific	2	2	2	1	2	0	1	6	16
Midwest	1	2	1	3	1	2	1	3	14
Total	15	13	12	12	5	5	10	23	95

Source (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=31814.msg844983#msg844983)

:D

LOL, what an epoch ! ;D

Yes, lets have the proper one at the bottom if we can please.

Just curious: Although the Census Bureau has done a great job keeping timely track of the voter rolls, shouldn't the Wiki page of registered voters (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll) also be updated? Last update there was almost a year ago.

There are 2 new citizen of Atlasia. Both Members of the RPP.

The RPP is the second largest party again.

And to think, just several months ago even some of the RPP's stalwarts were saying they were dead in the water.

Look who's in 4th. Libby and Hamilton's puppets (mainly)

You're way behind the times, badger. We thought we were dead in the water about a year and a few months ago. We stabilized at the end of last year when I rode a wave of goodwill into the senate and yankee took the party's reigns. ;)

You mean like some JCP stalwarts are saying now ? ;)

I'm going to try and work on updating this, though it'll take a while and may span over a period of time. :P What's really out of date is the Citizen's List. I'm assuming that's so that you could easily find a former citizen's page.

In the end of this year we see some new members, some are old newbies ;)

This December seems to be a good time for the RPP.

6 new members in one month... ::)

No one's ever going to match your 28 new members in a couple days, Antonio. ;)

     Half of whom are already established members with lengthy histories in Atlasia & a fourth of whom has been posting on the forum for ten months now, albeit at a rather leisurely pace. I thought that such was an acceptable mode of recruitment.

Only if they're a liberal, or sometimes a moderate.;)

Nothing like Jealousy. :P



Sometimes I wonder if the Atlasian left wants the game to just die rather then see it move even slightly to the right.

I've no problem with any of the recruits save for the freak who fakes brain tumors for attention. The only thing I think is worth pointing out is the obvious. If they were JCP or UDL members, you wouldn't be cheering them on. If they joined the Populares, Rowan wouldn't be defending them. The more members the better, so long as they hopefully turn out as productive and useful members of the game.

     True, though I also don't think any of us would be rolling our eyes were the JCP the party that saw a windfall of new members. I think the issue is that some of us saw that comment as unsportsmanlike.

You know, I seriously wouldn't mind a right-wing surge in the Pacific.  I'm not saying it should be encouraged just to balance the region, but more active members from the left and right in the region would be greatly appreciated.

New membership is fine, as long as it is fairly balanced. When it's not, it can only worry any people who care about the game. What is "unsportsmanlike" is when a party can't stand losing a couple of elections and decides to win the next one by drowning it with new recruits.

Let's put it that way. We had 4 new members that joined Atlasia, all of which coming from the RPP. Let not make an approfondite analysis about what exactly we should expect from a random new member to do, and assume he has a 20% to join the JCP, the UDL, the RPP, the POPs or becoming an independent. The probability of 4 new members joining the same party is 0.2^4 = 0.16%. The same reasoning can be made for independents joining a party.

Also, when I said one month, it was in fact 15 days.

Back in the days of DWTL, I could understand your explanation. However, nowadays, when a new liberal joins, such as liberalkid, who joined in the Mideast, they get hello's from both sides, and at least don't have conservatives bashing them. However, almost every single time a new member joins the RPP/POP, while they may get one nice liberal, almost every one of them recieves a snidely remark from the left. While the conservative wing of Atlasia might be responsible for a small portion of this issue, I'd argue that the left has contributed much more to it.

I've nothing against the recruits, most of thems seem fine. I have problems with the action itself of recruiting.

I would! I resent your remark.

     I was primarily referring to RPP members there, though I will admit that it was rather unclear. :P Roll away!

What do you want to do then? Force people to join parties they don't belong in to make it fair? Or pass up the opportunities entirely? There is no damn conspiracy, there is no organized effort to "drowned the game".  The RPP has always tried to recruit whenever possible and after several months with only 1 or 2 recruits that were actually new while 5 or 6 were falling off the rolls over the same period, I don't see what the damn problem is.

Just when you thought this place couldn't get any more pathetic, you hear that new membership has to be "balanced." Unreal. Meanwhile, the imbalance that we saw weeks ago in the Left's favor wasn't a problem at all.

Don't see why membership needs to be 'balanced', really. (Though, that's been the whining cry of the right-wing for the last year or so) Quality of membership is really the only key.

I don't say new membership must be perfectly balanced. My point is that when new membership is so ridiculously unbalanced, it means that one party is engaging into practices that threaten the game.

OK.

By the way, what have you eaten for a dinner, Hans?

enough ;)

Membership recruitment is a form of democracy in action.

I congratulate those who have been successful in membership drives.

So to those complaining about it, tough bananas.  Suck it up.

Region	JCP	RPP	UDL	POP	Other	Ind	Total
Northeast	10	7	4	15	3	3	42
Mideast	5	12	6	1	2	3	29
South	4	9	1	7	2	4	27
Midwest	7	3	10	1	2	1	24
Pacific	11	1	6	1	2	2	23
Total	37	32	27	25	11	13	145

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Yates is banned and de-registered. De-registration of Banned Members Act
 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/De-registration_of_Banned_Members_Act)

Welcome to the Mideast, Feeblepizza!

No big changes.

The Census Bureau will be closed from January 21 to February 1. I have some days free and I'm not at home.

Is there a change before Friday, then I will make another update, if not, then there is an update again in February.

RG Hans

I wish to formally note that I have emigrated from Atlasia, though will remain a registered voter. All future posts of mine on this forum should be considered as some form of electronic correspondence until notification to the contrary is posted.

Is that allowed? SPC tried to register himself in Switzerland, and it wasn't counted, naturally.

As far as we know, Atlasians living in foreign countries don't have the right to vote... :P

Looks like Populares have overtaken the UDL. :o

Welcome back, Hans! :D

Since there is no law which governs such cases, I ignore this.

No matter in which country you emigrate, you stay registered in last place in Atlasia.


Yeah, and I will switch the UDL and the POP when I have time, but now it is too late for me to do this ;)

I don't know I'm right, but the Presidential election begins next week, Friday 18th February 00:00.

So it is possible until tomorrow, Thursday 10th February 23:59 to move to another region and to vote in this region. Also everyone who register till this time have the right to vote.

Section 2: Voter Registration and Voting Rules (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_V_of_the_Third_Constitution#Section_2:_Voter_Registration_and_Voting_Rules)

     The deadline is actually midnight tonight, since that would be one week before the earliest possible time to begin the election.

I'd like to apologize for my sudden "disappearance."  If I caused Atlasia any harm, I'm truly sorry.

No worries man, just glad to see you are still alive and kicking. :)

Hey, Barnes ! :) Glad to see you back. Where had you been for all this time ?

Christ, where have you been? And why, despite being active on FB, haven't you responded to a single message?

These 13 Atlasians missed 3 elections and they are deregistered.
Section 2: Voter Registration and Voting Rules (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_V_of_the_Third_Constitution#Section_2:_Voter_Registration_and_Voting_Rules)

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East Coast Republican is banned and de-registered. De-registration of Banned Members Act
 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/De-registration_of_Banned_Members_Act)

The difference to the last election:

JCP  -2
RPP  +6
UDL  -4
POP  -5
Others  nc
Independent +3

Northeast  -3
Mideast  +3
South  -3
Midwest  -1
Pacific  +2

Atlasia, total -2

RG Hans-im-Glück
are you for man and woman
or are you not?

???

Hans, where have you been?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=2196

Sorry Kal, but I can't read every stupid post ;D

I like women, what other people do, it doesn't matter ;)

Damn, the left has lost a lot of ground in the last 2 months...

Perhaps you missed the nose dive that the Populares just suffered (like 5 or 6). A decline which will not be slowing until the number of Populares members equals the number of active Populares voters.

     True, but RPP/POP is at +1 whereas JCP/UDL is at -6 in net change between the elections. I think that is what he is referring to.

Any chance we end up as a two-party state in the near future?

A very high chance, unfortunately.

Only briefly if that happens.

I respectfully disagree. Every time Atlasia comes close to such a thing, one of the sides splinters. This time around, we were heading to a two party state with the RPP/POP unity ticket, but the left split (seemingly irrevocably) ending any hopes/worries of the two party system.

     If you look at the Northeast, you'll notice that the RPP/POP alliance is rather uneasy on some levels. We united to elect a ticket to the White House, but we are not quite the single party we may appear to be.

That may be true, but you are heading toward unity, rather than away from it. An any given time, one side is splintering or has already splintered.

     Largely because the respective parties have become less splinter-prone with time. The RPP & the POP are certainly no more unified with each other than they were four months ago.

I'll believe it if you say it. You should know best about your party after all. :P

This is the last update of the voter list before the special elections.

tuckerbanks was banned in December. I forget him to deregister. Now he is deregistrated.

ChairmanSanchez changed his Party to Populares/RPP. He is now listed among other parties, because this isn't a existing Party.

This person, who is a candidate in today's election, is listed as UDL on the Voter List:

I've missed.  :(

I changed the Voter List.

The Populares are now a 4th party?

Don't rub it in.

They've always been since the UDL was founded.

The real milestone will be when the number independents surpasses the number of populares; something that isn't too far fetched considering the UDL's recent implosion.

Didn't notice before, lol.

At least people can't complain JCP is "the biggest party". Just one of the two biggest :P

The RPP's getting tied with the JCP is quite surprising.

And it's not as if it's the UDL messing up things, since we only have two more members than the Pops. So the left only has a 56-54 registration advantage. Quite surprising.

The UDL still miraculously above the Pops... :P

Not until our friend K. returns online.

If anyone's curious, here's the percentage breakdown of the parties, based on the most recent update:

Northeast: 30.8% POP, 28.2% JCP, 17.9% RPP, 7.7% UDL (7.7% other, 7.7% independent)

Mideast: 42.9% RPP, 14.3% JCP, 10.7% UDL, 7.1% POP (7.1% other, 17.9% independent)

Southeast: 41.7% RPP, 16.7% JCP, 12.5% POP, 4.2% UDL, (4.2% other, 20.8% independent)

Midwest: 34.8% JCP, 34.8% UDL, 8.7% RPP, 4.3% POP (13.0% other, 4.3% independent)

Pacific: 32.0% JCP, 24.0% UDL, 16.0% RPP, 8.0% POP (8.0% other, 12.0% independent)

National: 25.2% JCP, 25.2% RPP, 15.1% UDL, 14.4% POP (7.9% other, 12.2% independent)

And here's a rough measure of ideology! I'm not taking into account minor parties, independent voters, or intraparty political differences, just combining the percentages of the two leftist parties and the two rightist parties.

Northeast: 48.7% rightist, 35.9% leftist
Mideast: 50.0% rightist, 25.0% leftist
Southeast: 54.2% rightist, 20.9% leftist
Midwest: 69.6% leftist, 13.0% rightist
Pacific: 56.0% leftist, 24% rightist
National: 40.3% leftist, 39.6% rightist

     Interestingly, the partisan difference is bigger in the South than it is in the Pacific.

I didn't really picture it to be this close!

Quality not quantity. The pacific now has me!

But yet the South is the most Independent region in Atlasia.

     It also has the lowest rate of minor party membership. Independents+others is the same in the South & Mideast, making up a quarter of all voters.

Painting all members of a party with one ideological label is likely to produce a misleeding result. :P

Has the right not historically had strong numbers?

This is correct.

Onwards and downwards...

May I join the RRP? I'd be a TX - South resident.

Could I join the RPP. Northeast please.

Is there any record of how many Northeast residents there were on October 1, 2007?

If you can find who was the Registrar General at that time and then find that person's census thread, it should be in there.

We didn't have Registrar General back then, and I don't think the SoFA kept record like the RG currently does.  So, probably not.

I looked back through the history of the Wiki and found the unofficial list for 2007.  The SoFA was Gabu, so asking him if he kept records isn't possible.  Nor does his SoFA thread say much about the voter roll.  The Wiki is the best evidence we're going to get, I think.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Do_Not_PM_List_Act

If you don't want to be PM'd, then the post it in the New Register Thread.

you still have wormyguy listed as JCP?

I'll PM those who PMed me asking me not to PM them.

(Yes, I realize how stupid this sounds)

I knew bgwah would get worms if he kept messing around with all those cats. tsk tsk tsk. :P

So nice to see my newest bureaucratic addition taking shape. :D

Sorry :(, I missed it, unfortunately, that he has switched back to the Populares. I've corrected it. In the next update of the Voter List it will be right.

These 10 Atlasians missed 3 elections and they are deregistered.
Section 2: Voter Registration and Voting Rules (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_V_of_the_Third_Constitution#Section_2:_Voter_Registration_and_Voting_Rules)

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The differences to the last election:

JCP  -2
RPP  -1
UDL  -5
POP  -3
Others  +1
Independent +2

Northeast  -5
Mideast  -1
South  nc
Midwest  -1
Pacific  -1

Atlasia, total -8

     Wow, that's harsh.

Its been good to know you SPC, Ronnie, and Vepres. :(

And fezzy :(

I've only noticed it now. Thank you Dallasfan for your PM :)

jbgator and SvenssonRS are banned and de-registered. De-registration of Banned Members Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/De-registration_of_Banned_Members_Act)