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Title: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Platypus on December 16, 2010, 08:40:46 AM
Your Menelik number is calculated by dividing your age at your closest birthday (ie, if you turn 20 in three months, put 20, not 19) by the number of countries you've visited.

For example, John is 21 and has been to Sweden, Finland, Germany, Thailand, Indonesia and New Zealand, as well as his native Australia. He has a Menelik number of 3 (21/7). Ann is 34 and has visited Mexico and Jamaica; she's from the USA. She has an MN of 11.67 (35/3), because her birthday is in 6 weeks. Gordon is 12 and has been to Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, the USA, Canada, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, the Vatican City, the Netherlands and Egypt; he's British. His MN is 0.92 (12/13)

Mine is either 3.29 or 3.83, depending on what you count :)


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Gustaf on December 16, 2010, 08:49:23 AM
Mine is 0.92. That's not counting the Vatican City, travelling through Luxembourg by car, Bonaire or Curacao (since the last two aren't sovereign states).


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: ilikeverin on December 16, 2010, 02:15:59 PM
2.5, counting the Caymans and the UK as separate.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 16, 2010, 02:34:39 PM
29, as I've never been out of the country, and don't have much hope of doing so in the near future :(


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: opebo on December 16, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
2.1.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: J. J. on December 16, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
16


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Free Palestine on December 16, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
19


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Јas on December 16, 2010, 04:31:04 PM
Precisely 2.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 16, 2010, 04:33:57 PM
17


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: fezzyfestoon on December 16, 2010, 05:06:44 PM
21/17 = 1.24


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 16, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
29, as I've never been out of the country, and don't have much hope of doing so in the near future :(

Same here.  The closest I've been is flying over southern Canadian airspace.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Boris on December 16, 2010, 06:05:01 PM
21/(Canada/Denmark/USA/UK/Iceland/Belize/Mexico/India)=2.62


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Insula Dei on December 16, 2010, 06:18:07 PM
About 1.5.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on December 16, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
28/USA, St. Maarten, Mexico = 9.3? I'm not counting Belize since I never actually set foot on the mainland, just went to an island and coral reef. Definitely not counting the places I've only been in proximity to via a cruise ship. Believe me, I wish the number were lower.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: muon2 on December 16, 2010, 06:39:07 PM
Currently I stand at 3.47. However, my list of visited countries hasn't changed since 1999. Then my value was 2.73. My lowest value was in 1994 at 2.57. My maximum value was 21 in 1979.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 16, 2010, 06:44:20 PM
     18.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: phk on December 16, 2010, 06:45:21 PM
25/ (UK + France + Russia + UAE + Pakistan + Singapore + Thailand + China Mainland + Hong Kong + South Korea + Japan + Canada + USA + Mexico + The Bahamas) =1.66666667

Lowest was .25 when I was 1, with US, UK, Canada and Pakistan.

Wish I had more Middle East and Europe.



Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 16, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
2.67, or 2 if you count airport stopovers (and you really shouldn't). Will be 2.29 (or, if you wish, 1.78) in a month and a half.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: CatoMinor on December 16, 2010, 07:16:42 PM
2.57


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: tpfkaw on December 16, 2010, 07:21:53 PM
5.5


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Hash on December 16, 2010, 07:35:54 PM
1.125


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on December 16, 2010, 07:49:07 PM
Currently at 2.5

In late 2005 I was 2.0


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 16, 2010, 09:24:45 PM
3.00

21/7 (U.S., Canada, England, France, Italy, Vatican City, Germany)


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Lunar on December 16, 2010, 09:30:15 PM
24 / (US, Mexico, Indonesia, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Italy, Vatican City, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, France, the Netherlands) = 1.7

Clearly that means I am a supremely cultured and well-rounded individual.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: J. J. on December 16, 2010, 09:35:26 PM
My lowest number was 3.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on December 16, 2010, 10:12:33 PM
27/2 = 13.5


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: The Dowager Mod on December 16, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
25.00+


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Gustaf on December 17, 2010, 03:43:08 AM
24 / (US, Mexico, Indonesia, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Italy, Vatican City, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, France, the Netherlands) = 1.7

Clearly that means I am a supremely cultured and well-rounded individual.

...but not THE supremely cultured individual that I am. Booze trips to Finland and beach trips to the West Indies. Does it get more cultural, that's all I'm asking?

It does look like I'm still in the lead here but then again, living in Europe gives you something of an unfair disadvantage. I can hardly leave home without falling into a foreign country.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on December 17, 2010, 03:53:27 AM
5.3

Canada, USA and Mexico. My parents aren't wealthy and because my family travels to Mexico all the time there's never money for anything else. I've been to more Mexican states in detail than American states. (Yucatan, Quintana Roo, D.F., SLP, Nueva Leon, Saltillo, Michocan, Guanajauto, Tamaulipas, Puebla and Zacatecas vs Idaho, Washington, Maryland, Virginia, Oregon, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado and D.C.)

 


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Brittain33 on December 17, 2010, 10:42:59 AM
About 1.9. Caribbean cruises inflate (or properly, deflate) the total.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: patrick1 on December 17, 2010, 11:54:34 AM
I guess it depends on whether you consider Greenland part of Denmark or the Cayman Islands- the UK.  I'll be 33 next month, yikes.  I have US, Canada, Bahamas, Mexico, Haiti, Jamaica, Cayman, Ireland (Republic and North) Scotland, England, France, Denmark, Iceland and Greenland.  I had a Heineken at Amsterdam airport on my way to Belfast but I really cant count that.

However, I havent been aboard in a couple of years now. I should be going to Chile this spring so that will get me a South American country.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Lunar on December 17, 2010, 08:00:21 PM
24 / (US, Mexico, Indonesia, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Italy, Vatican City, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, France, the Netherlands) = 1.7

Clearly that means I am a supremely cultured and well-rounded individual.

...but not THE supremely cultured individual that I am. Booze trips to Finland and beach trips to the West Indies. Does it get more cultural, that's all I'm asking?

It does look like I'm still in the lead here but then again, living in Europe gives you something of an unfair disadvantage. I can hardly leave home without falling into a foreign country.

Yeah, there are a few flaws in a system that values spending a day in Liechtenstein the same as living several months in Indonesia.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 17, 2010, 08:43:48 PM
1.35


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 18, 2010, 01:06:40 PM
18 years old/3 countries = 6


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: muon2 on December 18, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
24 / (US, Mexico, Indonesia, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Italy, Vatican City, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, France, the Netherlands) = 1.7

Clearly that means I am a supremely cultured and well-rounded individual.

...but not THE supremely cultured individual that I am. Booze trips to Finland and beach trips to the West Indies. Does it get more cultural, that's all I'm asking?

It does look like I'm still in the lead here but then again, living in Europe gives you something of an unfair disadvantage. I can hardly leave home without falling into a foreign country.

Yeah, there are a few flaws in a system that values spending a day in Liechtenstein the same as living several months in Indonesia.

But then again the number of people who can claim to have spent a day in Lichtenstein is vastly smaller than the number who have lived several months in Indonesia.

I agree that there is a fundamental asymmetry comparing Europeans to Americans by this measure. For the Europeans the fairer measure would be to count the EU as a single entity, or allow Americans to count each state separately.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 18, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
Currently 12, but when I go to Egypt in a couple of months, it will drop to 8.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 18, 2010, 07:28:23 PM
1.75


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Јas on December 18, 2010, 07:42:26 PM
I agree that there is a fundamental asymmetry comparing Europeans to Americans by this measure. For the Europeans the fairer measure would be to count the EU as a single entity, or allow Americans to count each state separately.

Not quite a fair comparison I'd say.

Anyway, under such a measure my 2 would fall back to 3.25


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Platypus on December 19, 2010, 01:46:30 AM
I agree that there is a fundamental asymmetry comparing Europeans to Americans by this measure. For the Europeans the fairer measure would be to count the EU as a single entity, or allow Americans to count each state separately.

Not quite a fair comparison I'd say.

Anyway, under such a measure my 2 would fall back to 3.25

<<from an island a million miles from anywhere. So quit your whining, northerner scum.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Hans-im-Glück on December 19, 2010, 04:28:42 AM
3,91


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Gustaf on December 19, 2010, 07:29:02 AM
24 / (US, Mexico, Indonesia, Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Italy, Vatican City, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, France, the Netherlands) = 1.7

Clearly that means I am a supremely cultured and well-rounded individual.

...but not THE supremely cultured individual that I am. Booze trips to Finland and beach trips to the West Indies. Does it get more cultural, that's all I'm asking?

It does look like I'm still in the lead here but then again, living in Europe gives you something of an unfair disadvantage. I can hardly leave home without falling into a foreign country.

Yeah, there are a few flaws in a system that values spending a day in Liechtenstein the same as living several months in Indonesia.

But then again the number of people who can claim to have spent a day in Lichtenstein is vastly smaller than the number who have lived several months in Indonesia.

I agree that there is a fundamental asymmetry comparing Europeans to Americans by this measure. For the Europeans the fairer measure would be to count the EU as a single entity, or allow Americans to count each state separately.

That's hardly fair though, since having visited all states in the EU would definitely be more broadening than all the states in the US. It is one country after all.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: danieleregge on December 20, 2010, 06:45:36 PM
Here in Europe we use to calculate the Menelik Number exactly in the opposite way.
The Menelik Number is obtained dividing the visited countries by the traveler's age.
So, if you have visited 55 countries and you are 28, your Menelik Number will be 1,96.
Your MN will grow if you'll be able to keep visiting new countries year after year.
Normally you count all the 192 independent countries with a seat at the UN, plus all the dependencies and autonomous territories (like Cayenne, American Virgin islands, Faer Oer, etc...)
You can find a complete list on Wikipedia.
I've read also that the Menelik Number was invented by the italian doctor and journalist Giovanni Turco


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on December 20, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
The European way I have a score of 0.074. There should be a similar method created for states. I have visited 14 + DC, so 27/14 = 1.8. And two Canadian provinces. As an adult I have only been to 7 states (Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana.)


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on December 20, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
15.5


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Bacon King on December 21, 2010, 01:51:28 AM
Two and a third exactly.


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: freek on January 11, 2011, 01:56:23 PM
Netherlands
Germany
Belgium
UK
Denmark
Norway
Sweden
Finland
Estonia
Latvia
Poland
Czech Republic
Hungary
Austria
Italy
Vatican City
Spain
Bulgaria
USA

19 countries, not counting 2 transfer trips through France and Switzerland.

30/19 = 1.58


Title: Re: What's your Menelik number?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 11, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
The European way I have a score of 0.074. There should be a similar method created for states. I have visited 14 + DC, so 27/14 = 1.8. And two Canadian provinces. As an adult I have only been to 7 states (Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois and Indiana.)

I've visited 15 plus DC, so it's a tick above 1 (exactly 1 if you count DC).