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Title: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: King on February 09, 2011, 09:01:54 PM Lieberman? Hillary? Obama still? A Republican in his second term from 2004?
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Thomas D on February 09, 2011, 09:03:57 PM Gore is reelected in 2004. Jeb Bush defeats Hillary in 2008.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 09, 2011, 09:10:37 PM Gore dies on 9/11, Joe Fascistman turns America into a dictatorship and sets himself as president for life.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: phk on February 09, 2011, 09:12:19 PM Gore narrowly loses to a Republican in 2004.
Republican loses big in 2008. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on February 09, 2011, 09:33:12 PM Gore narrowly wins in 04
Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Person Man on February 09, 2011, 09:42:50 PM He would of probably lost the senate in 2002 and would have lost in 2004. The R would have done well in 2006 and 2008, but this year would be the 2006.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: King on February 09, 2011, 11:20:54 PM Tea Party rises by 05 Pretty hard for the Tea Party to rise behind a declining national debt. ;) Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 10, 2011, 02:23:19 AM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Person Man on February 10, 2011, 08:42:16 PM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: King on February 10, 2011, 11:48:06 PM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: tpfkaw on February 11, 2011, 12:57:30 PM Gore wins in '04, Lieberman is destroyed in 2008 (not sure by whom...)
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: feeblepizza on February 11, 2011, 01:02:40 PM Gore narrowly defeats McCain/(Fred) Thompson in 04
Huckabee/Brownback destroys Lieberman in 08 Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 13, 2011, 02:11:11 PM Obama, since Gore did win Florida.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 13, 2011, 02:30:29 PM Obama, since Gore did win Florida. I highly doubt it, 16 years of Democrats will cause a Republican to get elected. My guess is Romney/Huckabee Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 13, 2011, 02:35:31 PM Obama, since Gore did win Florida. I highly doubt it, 16 years of Democrats will cause a Republican to get elected. My guess is Romney/Huckabee No, what I mean is that Gore won Florida, Bush stole the election, and then Obama won in 2008. Which is what happened in real life. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on February 13, 2011, 02:42:42 PM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place. I beg to differ. High taxes+police state enviromentalist laws precipitating gas prices in line with Europe+9/11+worse failure in Afganistan+mandated socialized medicine= Tea Party in 05 with a full Conservative/Libertarian alliance Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on February 14, 2011, 07:56:42 PM There wouldn't be a war in Iraq if Gore won, but that's pretty much the only major difference.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Oakvale on February 14, 2011, 08:08:59 PM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place. I beg to differ. High taxes+police state enviromentalist laws precipitating gas prices in line with Europe+9/11+worse failure in Afganistan+mandated socialized medicine= Tea Party in 05 with a full Conservative/Libertarian alliance That is one car crash of a response. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Del Tachi on February 16, 2011, 03:18:57 PM McCain wins in a close election in '04 running off of national security issues. Due to butterflies 2008 economic meltdown doesn't occur until after the '08 election, in which McCain was re-elected by a wide-margin. McCain is in office with approvals in the low-to-mid 30's.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: hcallega on February 16, 2011, 05:18:08 PM whichever party is in power during the economic crisis is going to lose in 2008. If Gore wins reelection in 2004 then there is probably a slightly faster response. If McCain or one of the Bush's wins in 2008 then they lose in 2008.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: feeblepizza on February 17, 2011, 10:37:35 AM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place. I beg to differ. High taxes+police state enviromentalist laws precipitating gas prices in line with Europe+9/11+worse failure in Afganistan+mandated socialized medicine= Tea Party in 05 with a full Conservative/Libertarian alliance That is one car crash of a response. I actually agree with JCL. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 17, 2011, 11:09:36 AM Hard to imagine a fourth straight term of one party's rule, so Gore would probably lose in 2004. That means, with an economic crisis still coming, some Democrat in 2008.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on February 17, 2011, 01:01:54 PM Hard to imagine a fourth straight term of one party's rule, so Gore would probably lose in 2004. That means, with an economic crisis still coming, some Democrat in 2008. Uh not so much. It would follow the Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton pattern. That Republican would get two terms because him and the GOP led congress would tighten the loose spending Gore would do for his enviro agenda. Remember the auto bailouts were opposed by almost everybody outside of the tells of power. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Elyski on February 23, 2011, 08:29:36 PM Giuliani would have won the Republican primary. Clinton would have won the Democratic primaries. Can't tell who will win just know it would be close.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MAINEiac4434 on May 06, 2011, 04:07:57 PM Assuming Gore wins in 2004: If Lieberman is the Dems nominee in 2008, then any other Republican by a wide margin.
However, many of Lieberman's views were actually contradictory to Gore's. If Gore fired him (which a Newsweek article detailing this very same thing said would happen in 2005, 2006 or 2007) then Hillary Clinton, John Kerry or whoever Gore would choose as his new VP would probably lose in 2008. Just the natural order of things. Assuming Gore loses in 2004: McCain, one of the Bushes or whoever's the GOP nominee is decently popular until the economic collapse, after which they're beaten by a Democrat (possibly Obama or Clinton) by a decent margin. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 07, 2011, 10:44:10 AM Gore narrowly wins in 04 Tea Party rises by 05 Pence becomes speaker in 06 Ron Paul/Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee/Mitchell Daniels wins 08 election How old were you in 05? Because there was no cause for the TP that early.... No war + No tax code changes = No deficit = No Tea Party? Instead the 90s anti-Clinton militias probably would've just continued under Gore and shot up the place. I beg to differ. High taxes+police state enviromentalist laws precipitating gas prices in line with Europe+9/11+worse failure in Afganistan+mandated socialized medicine= Tea Party in 05 with a full Conservative/Libertarian alliance That is one car crash of a response. I actually agree with JCL. Hmmmm... that's more than a little concerning... Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Skill and Chance on May 07, 2011, 07:23:21 PM 2 Scenarios seem viable, assuming that the major international events of the past decade still occur as in real life:
1. The mirror-world: Gore wins narrowly in 2004. There is no War in Iraq. Gore pushes carbon regulation through congress in 2005. Conservative backlash makes 2006 a minor Republican wave in Congress (the environment is far less polarizing than health care in a decent economy). After the stock market crash, a Republican wins in 2008 by about the same margin that Obama won in real life. 2. Gore narrowly loses to a Republican (likely McCain) in 2004. The War in Iraq starts in 2005. The 2006 elections are much closer than in real life. In 2008, the Republican becomes the inverse Carter when the economy crashes and loses to a Democrat (likely H. Clinton or Obama) in a landslide. With an incumbent president on the ballot, it would be a bigger blowout than 2008, and the Democrat could get FDR numbers in a 2 way race. Also, if Gore served 8 years, we would have a left-leaning Supreme Court right now. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: feeblepizza on May 07, 2011, 07:45:18 PM There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore :P.
Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Skill and Chance on May 07, 2011, 07:52:48 PM There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore :P. A Republican could make the 2004 campaign about the necessity of military action in Iraq and win if that were the direction the world was going. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 07, 2011, 10:29:01 PM There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore :P. What? do you have any idea of either the politics dynamics of the ME, let alone Saddam's military capacity? Given that response... you don't. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on May 08, 2011, 06:34:01 PM There would be no Iraq War, which means that by 2008 Israel would be gone and Saddam would be in total control of the Middle East. Good job, President Gore :P. What? do you have any idea of either the politics dynamics of the ME, let alone Saddam's military capacity? Leave him alone. He was an embryo when Iraq war happened, so he don't know that. Title: Re: If Gore had won Florida, who would be President today? Post by: Bo on May 14, 2011, 09:29:13 PM With 9/11: Gore narrowly reelected in '04. George Allen or Jeb Bush wins in '08. This scenario is probably the most likely.
Without 9/11: Gore loses in '04 to McCain, McCain loses in '08 to Hillary or Mark Warner. |