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Title: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Meeker on May 17, 2011, 08:49:07 PM
With 252 out of 256 precincts reporting, the Republican is ahead by 14 votes out of 188,520 cast.

Jacksonville is a pretty Republican city (it voted for Bush by a wide margin both times and also voted for McCain) so this could be big for Florida Democrats.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Mr.Phips on May 17, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
The remaining for precincts went 58%-42% for Sink.  The Democrat should end up winning by around 500 votes in the end. 


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Dgov on May 17, 2011, 09:34:20 PM
With 252 out of 256 precincts reporting, the Republican is ahead by 14 votes out of 188,520 cast.

Jacksonville is a pretty Republican city (it voted for Bush by a wide margin both times and also voted for McCain) so this could be big for Florida Democrats.

Did it Vote for McCain?  I thought just the county did and the city itself was like 49-48 Obama.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on May 17, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
The city and county governments are consolidated, so it's the entire county.

Regardless, the Democrat is reportedly a DINO, so probably not much for Democrats to get excited about.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Mississippi Political Freak on May 17, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
The city and county governments are consolidated, so it's the entire county.

Regardless, the Democrat is reportedly a DINO, so probably not much for Democrats to get excited about.

I strongly agree here.  According to the official election night counts (http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/FL/Duval/30497/45172/en/md.html?cid=10), Alvin Brown the nominal Dem (but fiscally conservative and business-friendly) leads Mike Hogan, the GOP Duval County Tax Collector by 603 votes, pending the tally on absentee and provisional votes; and a possible recount.  Apparently, an unusual local dynamic is in play here, as those who voted for the third-place finisher in March, Audrey Moran (a moderate Republican) largely vote for Brown tonight. 

Meanwhile, Hogan seems to take his party affiliation and his first-place finish in March for granted, and is content to cater just to his Tea Party base plus some public union supporters, and no further.  On the other hand, Brown worked somewhat harder to reach out more diverse groups of voters.  Even the usually conservative Florida Times-Union (Arguably the most conservative major Florida daily paper) lamented Hogan's lack of policy specifics and avoidance of debates in its endorsement of Brown.  Finally, the business establishment there seems to desert Hogan in droves due to his hard-right campaign.  All these local dynamics may potentially lead to Hogan's eventual narrow defeat in a race that should be a shoo-in for most GOP candidates.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on May 17, 2011, 11:36:59 PM
The Democrat, Alvin Brown, is now up by 600 votes. 


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Badger on May 18, 2011, 12:06:03 AM

Regardless, the Democrat is reportedly a DINO, so probably not much for Democrats to get excited about.

DINO > Tea Party Republican (i.e. 99% of them in the south) X a billion.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Meeker on May 18, 2011, 05:28:16 PM
The Democrat now leads by 1,627 votes which is out of recount range.

We also picked up a seat on the City Council.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on May 18, 2011, 06:15:03 PM
The woman who won the city council seat is a religious nut.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Meeker on May 18, 2011, 06:28:54 PM
The woman who won the city council seat is a religious nut.

Well aren't you Mr. Positive today. :P


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on May 18, 2011, 07:12:48 PM
This is a press release, so I think I'm okay in quoting it all. (http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressreleases/2011/04/16108/)

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BURLINGTON, Vt. – Truth Wins Out today called on Jacksonville, FL City Council candidate Kimberly Daniels (D) to bow out of the race after shocking videos revealed offensive comments about Jews and slavery. In the newly discovered video footage found by researcher Bruce Wilson, Daniels preaches to her flock: “You can talk about the Holocaust, but the Jews own everything.”

Daniels also says, “I thank God for slavery. If it wasn’t for slavery, I might be somewhere in Africa worshipping a tree.”

“These radical statements show that Kimberly Daniels is an extremist who is unfit for office and should immediately quit the race for the good of the city,” said Truth Wins Out’s Executive Director Wayne Besen. “A victory for Daniels would be disgraceful and turn Jacksonville into a national laughingstock.”

Daniels has also said that Halloween candy can be tainted by demons: “I do not buy candy during the Halloween season,” Daniels told Charisma magazine on October 27, 2009. “Curses are sent through the tricks and treats of the innocent whether they get it by going door-to-door or by purchasing it from the local grocery store. The demons can’t tell the difference.”

“The thought of Daniels on the City Council is scarier than a Halloween haunted house filled with Reese’s Demon Butter Cups,” said TWO’s Wayne Besen. “It would be unconscionable to elect someone as bigoted and bizarre as Kimberly Daniels.”

Additionally, Daniels is known as a “demon buster” who gives exorcisms to rid people of various maladies.

“We have experienced much success in one-session deliverances,” Daniels wrote in her book, Clean House, Strong House. “…However, there have been times when I have personally walked homosexuals, ex-witches, and drug addicts through sessions that took place over a couple of years.”

But wait, there's more! (http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/4/20/152638/818)

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"Many may ask this question: "Did the devil or God cause the destruction in Haiti?" The answer is both! Because of broken covenants with God and a dark covenant with the devil, God allowed it, just as He sent a lying spirit to the mouths of the prophets in 2 Chronicles 18:20-22"

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"God moved in Atlanta, Georgia during the Iron Sharpens Iron meeting... We stood in the gap for the region and took authority over plane crashes in America.  God revealed that these accidents have been directly related to witchcraft."

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"[Kim Daniels] met a woman who was plagued by Succubus, a demonic spirit said to have sexual intercourse with humans (see Gen. 6:2). It is closely related to Incubus, another spirit that does the same thing.

The woman, who was an evangelist, began manifesting a demonic spirit as Daniels prayed, and she heard the name "Succubus" whispered in her ear. When she called out the name and commanded it to go, she says the woman was set free. The evangelist later told her Succubus had been raping her for years. "

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Lord, expose the work of every witch, sorcerer, spiritualist or person from the dark side operating through his cabinet members or through anyone else closely associated with him. We block the power of the influence of the Yoruba religion and all other groups of black people who worship their ancestors, in Jesus' name. We put barriers around the Unites States that will bind and block the witchcraft coming from Kenya to influence our president in Jesus' name.

And on, and on, and on... The woman is insane.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Holmes on May 18, 2011, 07:30:32 PM
Jacksonville gets what it deserves, then. Not that it probably matters in the grand scheme of things. I doubt she'll have much influence.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 18, 2011, 09:42:14 PM
I was wondering why someone like that would be a Democrat until I noticed the slavery comment and realized she had to be black. I guess the blacks voted for her, the few white liberals in Jacksonville might've done so on blind partisanship being unaware of what she was like, and some fundies crossed over to her.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on May 18, 2011, 09:45:46 PM
Also she's clearly not very familiar with modern day Africa, as the parts of Africa where most slaves came from are predominately Christian today.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Dgov on May 19, 2011, 01:38:47 AM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Meeker on May 19, 2011, 01:39:47 AM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

She already won, and it was an at-large, citywide district.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Dgov on May 19, 2011, 02:02:50 AM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

She already won, and it was an at-large, citywide district.

Wow, and this just came out now?  Someone obviously didn't do their job very well if this slipped by.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Bacon King on May 19, 2011, 11:50:32 AM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

She already won, and it was an at-large, citywide district.

Wow, and this just came out now?  Someone obviously didn't do their job very well if this slipped by.

The TWO press release was put out a month ago. This was already out in the open.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on May 19, 2011, 12:00:37 PM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

She already won, and it was an at-large, citywide district.

Wow, and this just came out now?  Someone obviously didn't do their job very well if this slipped by.

The TWO press release was put out a month ago. This was already out in the open.

In urban areas, there is little care nor need for positions on issues. Elections are instead decided by racial or machine politics.


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on May 22, 2011, 08:41:57 PM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

She already won, and it was an at-large, citywide district.

Wow, and this just came out now?  Someone obviously didn't do their job very well if this slipped by.

The TWO press release was put out a month ago. This was already out in the open.

In urban areas, there is little care nor need for positions on issues. Elections are instead decided by racial or machine politics.

Sometimes.  Sometimes not. 


Title: Re: 2011 Jacksonville Mayoral Election
Post by: comatose on May 22, 2011, 09:13:20 PM
Lol.  Well, I'd be lying if if I said I didn't think a significant portion blacks agreed with her on much of this stuff, but those kind of blacks usually don't make it past the primaries.  Did she already win (I'm assuming she's running in an Uber-Safe Black district), or is the election for this position on a different day?

if it is a D pick-up, I would not assume that it is a safe black district.