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Title: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 11, 2011, 09:14:18 PM
I bet I found in Williamsburg in Brooklyn that'd qualify. 80.7% white, 96% Obama.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: King on June 11, 2011, 10:19:35 PM
Do most states release precinct demographics?  I would check San Francisco for a white 90% neighorhood.  Actually, there might be one here up in Santa Fe as well.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: nclib on June 12, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
I think the census only has precinct data for 2000. Certainly precincts are more susceptible to strong demographic changes than higher levels of geography.

This thread (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=124500.0) has some State House districts.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: bgwah on June 12, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Waldron Island, WA: 97% White, 92-5 Obama


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Shilly on June 12, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
Don't know the numbers, but Obama got over 90% in nine precincts in Marin County. With one exception (Marin City) they're overwhelmingly white.

Specifically, there are four in Mill Valley, two in Fairfax, one in Bolinas, and one in NW Marin.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 13, 2011, 02:11:04 AM
Somewhere in Vermont ?


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on June 13, 2011, 06:19:41 AM

Almost, but not quite. Obama's best showing in Vermont was in a precinct in Burlington, where he got 89.7%.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Sbane on June 13, 2011, 08:08:57 AM
Do most states release precinct demographics?  I would check San Francisco for a white 90% neighorhood.  Actually, there might be one here up in Santa Fe as well.

I highly doubt there is a 90% white SF precinct. Hell, I doubt there is a 80% white precinct in SF.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: homelycooking on June 13, 2011, 08:19:20 AM
Pinkham's Grant, New Hampshire: 100% Obama, 100% White. Five votes total.
Green's Grant, New Hampshire: 100% Obama, 100% White. One vote total.

Y'all never said what size the precincts had to be. ;D


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Badger on June 13, 2011, 10:40:40 AM
Pinkham's Grant, New Hampshire: 100% Obama, 100% White. Five votes total.
Green's Grant, New Hampshire: 100% Obama, 100% White. One vote total.

Y'all never said what size the precincts had to be. ;D

Homely wins the thread.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on June 13, 2011, 05:58:32 PM
Going for a bit more population, there are some 90+ wards in Madison WI that are whiter than this Williamsburg precinct, all roughly on the east (i.e. non-university) side of the central isthmus.

Ward 32 - 84% white (87% by VAP), Obama 90% (Obama-McCain-other raw vote: 1,596-129-43)
Ward 33 - 91% white (93% by VAP), Obama 93% (2,355-133-51)
Ward 34 - 88% white (90% by VAP), Obama 94% (2,595-117-56)
Ward 35 - 90% white (90% by VAP), Obama 93% (1,645-75-47)
Ward 38 - 89% white (90% by VAP), Obama 90% (1,202-78-36)


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Seattle on June 13, 2011, 06:56:07 PM
Perhaps some precincts in Seattle's Wallingford or Capital Hill neigborhoods - they're very white, very liberal, and very educated.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Badger on June 14, 2011, 03:33:51 PM
Going for a bit more population, there are some 90+ wards in Madison WI that are whiter than this Williamsburg precinct, all roughly on the east (i.e. non-university) side of the central isthmus.

Ward 32 - 84% white (87% by VAP), Obama 90% (Obama-McCain-other raw vote: 1,596-129-43)
Ward 33 - 91% white (93% by VAP), Obama 93% (2,355-133-51)
Ward 34 - 88% white (90% by VAP), Obama 94% (2,595-117-56)
Ward 35 - 90% white (90% by VAP), Obama 93% (1,645-75-47)
Ward 38 - 89% white (90% by VAP), Obama 90% (1,202-78-36)

Geez, and these wards are from the non-university side of town? :o Obama presumably did even better in the UW neighborhoods, right? Though maybe those may not be as white? I dunno.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Dgov on June 15, 2011, 01:09:07 AM
Going for a bit more population, there are some 90+ wards in Madison WI that are whiter than this Williamsburg precinct, all roughly on the east (i.e. non-university) side of the central isthmus.

Ward 32 - 84% white (87% by VAP), Obama 90% (Obama-McCain-other raw vote: 1,596-129-43)
Ward 33 - 91% white (93% by VAP), Obama 93% (2,355-133-51)
Ward 34 - 88% white (90% by VAP), Obama 94% (2,595-117-56)
Ward 35 - 90% white (90% by VAP), Obama 93% (1,645-75-47)
Ward 38 - 89% white (90% by VAP), Obama 90% (1,202-78-36)

Geez, and these wards are from the non-university side of town? :o Obama presumably did even better in the UW neighborhoods, right? Though maybe those may not be as white? I dunno.

Remember that universities usually take students from a large area, so tend to actually be locally conservative in highly Liberal areas.  UC Berkley is the most Conservative part of the City of Berkley, since not all people who attend Berkley share the city's 90-95% Democratic voting tendencies.

I assume the UW areas have some Conservative youngsters from the Milwaukee burbs (and elsewhere)--at least more than 1 in 10 I'd assume.

Or they might be too Asian to qualify, but I wouldn't really know.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on June 15, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
Going for a bit more population, there are some 90+ wards in Madison WI that are whiter than this Williamsburg precinct, all roughly on the east (i.e. non-university) side of the central isthmus.

Ward 32 - 84% white (87% by VAP), Obama 90% (Obama-McCain-other raw vote: 1,596-129-43)
Ward 33 - 91% white (93% by VAP), Obama 93% (2,355-133-51)
Ward 34 - 88% white (90% by VAP), Obama 94% (2,595-117-56)
Ward 35 - 90% white (90% by VAP), Obama 93% (1,645-75-47)
Ward 38 - 89% white (90% by VAP), Obama 90% (1,202-78-36)

Geez, and these wards are from the non-university side of town? :o Obama presumably did even better in the UW neighborhoods, right? Though maybe those may not be as white? I dunno.

Remember that universities usually take students from a large area, so tend to actually be locally conservative in highly Liberal areas.  UC Berkley is the most Conservative part of the City of Berkley, since not all people who attend Berkley share the city's 90-95% Democratic voting tendencies.

I assume the UW areas have some Conservative youngsters from the Milwaukee burbs (and elsewhere)--at least more than 1 in 10 I'd assume.

Or they might be too Asian to qualify, but I wouldn't really know.


This. Here's the image of the 2008 data from Dave's App (reverse colors) where I got the info. Notice how the university and immediate surroundings (on the south shore of Lake Mendota at the western base of the isthmus) are a bit less D than most of the rest of the central city (though still generally Obama +70). (Edit: on Dave Bradlee's scale the most D is brightest blue without purple, not necessarily darkest blue).

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I'm not an expert on the city but having been there a couple of times my basic impression is that of the very blue areas on the map, the ones SW of campus are well-off areas with lots of professors in big old homes, the ones at the south end of the city are minority areas, and the ones on the east side of downtown (with all of the white 90+D areas listed above) are rows of cute small old houses that were once working class and now have a lot of the sort of very liberal 20-somethings who like to live in places like that.



Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Badger on June 15, 2011, 01:19:48 PM
I'll take your word for it, but the map's color scheme actually makes the UW neighborhood you describe darker blue and hence more Democratic. Maybe it's just my eyes. :P


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on June 15, 2011, 02:04:44 PM
I'll take your word for it, but the map's color scheme actually makes the UW neighborhood you describe darker blue and hence more Democratic. Maybe it's just my eyes. :P

No, your eyes are fine - :P, but on Dave's scale, the strongest D is bright blue, whereas the more mixed areas get more purple - and thus sometimes darker.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 19, 2011, 12:28:44 AM
The University of Minnesota is actually the most Republican part of Minneapolis. Obama got about 67% in the main dorms precinct there. There was only one precinct stronger for McCain where Obama got about 61% and it is based around another university, a fundamentalist Assembly of God one (actually voted for Bush in 2004, but the non-uni turnout clearly beat it this year. And voted for Dayton by 20 points, so the non-uni population outvoting it is here to stay.) But yeah I'm not surprised, the U of M actually has a College Republicans club after all.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on June 19, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
Dave's App claims that there's a 99% white 96% Obama precinct in rural Fayette County PA, but it's almost certainly just an error - the county only has 2010 precinct results on its web site so we can't double-check this particular result, but the precinct voted for Toomey, and the raw vote total in 2010 is much larger than the supposed 2008 total.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 22, 2011, 11:42:23 PM
Did Obama get over 90% of the white vote in Williamsburg outright? How about Park Slope?

I sort of have this image that every single white in Williamsburg dresses like Sleigh Bells (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fheYx_ZPU18).


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: minionofmidas on June 25, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
Did Obama get over 90% of the white vote in Williamsburg outright?
Obviously not.
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How about Park Slope?
Hmmm... quite possible. Thereabouts, anyways. There's about 50k people worth of continuous territory in Park Slope, South Slope and Prospect Heights that is >50% White (up to about 80%) and >90% Obama (up to 97%.)


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: memphis on June 25, 2011, 05:54:36 PM
I sort of have this image that every single white in Williamsburg dresses like Sleigh Bells (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fheYx_ZPU18).

No. Quite a few like this, for example:
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Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 27, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
Well non-cult member whites anyway.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: Lephead on June 28, 2011, 07:56:30 PM
When I made some charts of Seattle, I used to find that the University of Washington campus and Greek Row voted about 35% Republican while the University District voted about 22% Republican, to give you an idea of campus v. off-campus.  I believe this is 1992 US Senate, but should not really be much different.


Title: Re: What's the whitest >90% Obama precinct?
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 28, 2011, 11:13:01 PM
Were there any areas in Manhattan that had the white vote around 90% for Obama? Greenwich and East Villages for example seem like likely candidates...