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Title: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Passed to Regions)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 10, 2011, 06:57:26 AM
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Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment

Article I Section 4 Clause 4 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended to read:
Any vacancy occurring in a Class A Senate seat shall be filled according to the laws of the respective region.

Sponsor: shua


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 10, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
Currently if there is a vacancy in a regional Senate seat, our constitution requires the seat be filled by appointment by the governor.  I do not see the need for this. It is neither democratic nor regionalist. If a region decides they want to fill the vacancy by a special election, as I would prefer, they should be able to do this. If on the other hand, the region wants a vacancy to be filled by the governor or by the assembly, I would like to leave this option open to them as well. Or, there might be a combination of these based on when the vacancy occurs, as exists for at-large Senate seats.  Each region would be able to decide how to go about it, and the discussions each region has about it, and the diversity of solutions, will make Atlasia more interesting.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Napoleon on July 10, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
I fully support this amendment and would have introduced something similar if Senator Shua hadn't already. Great work, shua.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 10, 2011, 01:27:11 PM
I see no problem with this. Leave it up to the regions to decide their own fate.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: California8429 on July 11, 2011, 01:53:21 PM
YEA


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: bgwah on July 11, 2011, 06:36:33 PM
Meh, sure. However, let's keep the Governor appointment thing as a default if a region doesn't otherwise specify its own method. I would like to offer the following amendment:


Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment

Article I Section 4 Clause 4 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended to read:
Any vacancy occurring in a Class A Senate seat shall be filled according to the laws of the respective region. If a region does not have any law for filling the vacancy, then the Governor of that Region shall appoint a person to fill the remainder of that term.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 12, 2011, 03:00:37 AM
Ideally I'd prefer we not even privilege one approach over another if possible, but I do see some sense in leaving a default in case a vacancy arises before the region can establish its own process. 
I'll accept bgwah's amendment as friendly.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 12, 2011, 06:10:54 AM
Quote from: Amendment 44:7 by bgwah
Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment

Article I Section 4 Clause 4 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended to read:
Any vacancy occurring in a Class A Senate seat shall be filled according to the laws of the respective region. If a region does not have any law for filling the vacancy, then the Governor of that Region shall appoint a person to fill the remainder of that term.


Senators have 24 hours to object to the amendment.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 13, 2011, 06:52:07 AM
The amendment has passed.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 13, 2011, 07:15:34 AM
Final vote can begin at any time, is such desired?


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 13, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
sure, that's fine by me.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 13, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
Yay for regional rights! :P


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (Debating)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on July 14, 2011, 12:03:19 AM
I support this.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 14, 2011, 07:22:42 AM
A final vote is now open on this amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

Quote from: Current Text
Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment

Article I Section 4 Clause 4 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended to read:
Any vacancy occurring in a Class A Senate seat shall be filled according to the laws of the respective region. If a region does not have any law for filling the vacancy, then the Governor of that Region shall appoint a person to fill the remainder of that term.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on July 14, 2011, 09:43:08 AM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: Napoleon on July 14, 2011, 10:48:56 AM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on July 14, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
Screw regional rights.


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 14, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on July 14, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on July 14, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: bgwah on July 14, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
aye


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (At Final Vote)
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 15, 2011, 07:20:20 AM
Abstain


Title: Re: SENATE BILL: Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment (PTR)
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 15, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
Aye


Final vote on the Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment:

Aye (7) bgwah, fuzzybigfoot, Napoleon, NC Yankee, officepark, shua and Snowguy716
Nay (0):
Abstain (1): Antonio V

Didn't Vote (1): AHDuke99

The Constitutional Amendment has passed the Senate and is sent to the regions.