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General Politics => U.S. General Discussion => Topic started by: Jacobtm on August 11, 2011, 10:24:50 PM



Title: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Jacobtm on August 11, 2011, 10:24:50 PM
Meaning on the ballot in all 50 states, at least if they keep getting signatures at the rate they have. To get on all 50 ballots, about 2.9 million signatures are needed, and they have 2 million as it stands, so it shouldn't be hard to finish it off after recent publicity.

It's a website, a ''ticket'', not a party, that will have a candidate on the ballot in all 50 states.

Site users will elect a candidate, out of whom, I don't yet know.

http://www.americanselect.org/

An interview Colbert did with the CEO of Americans Elect: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/394363/august-10-2011/elliot-ackerman

When you sign up for the site, they ask you a series of political questions to help define your beliefs and suggest candidates with simmilar beliefs for you to consider.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: specific_name on August 11, 2011, 11:33:24 PM
I signed up there awhile ago, put a link in my signature to spread the word. I don't know if anything will come of it, but it's definitely going to take new and creative strategies (not to mention money) to get on the ballot.

I don't think there's been a better time for a third party or independent run for the presidency, in many decades. Clearly most people are fed up with both parties and their impotence in the face of real crisis.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Jacobtm on August 12, 2011, 12:08:01 PM
I mean, if Ross Perot could get nearly 20%, then a sane, charismatic, good-looking 3rd party candidate could do even better, potentially.

I just wonder about the kinda person ''the internet'' will elect. We'll see I guess.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Joe Republic on August 12, 2011, 12:16:12 PM
I just wonder about the kinda person ''the internet'' will elect. We'll see I guess.

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Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Free Palestine on August 12, 2011, 12:23:37 PM
I've heard some negative things about this.

I just wonder about the kinda person ''the internet'' will elect. We'll see I guess.

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Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: specific_name on August 12, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
I've heard some negative things about this.

Like what?


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on August 12, 2011, 04:51:03 PM
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Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Jacobtm on August 12, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
While the people who vote online might be nutters, are they any more nuts than partisan primary voters?

When you answer questions on the site, they show you the breakdown of how other people voted. It seems that the avg. voter is pretty much a liberal Democrat. Tax the rich, help the poor, gov't healthcare for everyone, protect the environment, pro choice, pro gay marraige, anti gun. Not exactly Ron Paul.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: specific_name on August 12, 2011, 05:28:07 PM
I took surveys on the site and it appears to lean left on average at the moment, the Paulites haven't interrupted everything yet. Anyway this has nothing to do with voting on the internet, it has to do with using the organizational power of the internet.

After the events of the Arab Spring and the ongoing violence in Syria, how can anyone in the know discount the power of social media to revolutionize communication? Almost everything we know about the situation in Syria as well as the Green Revolution was due to people leaking information - rather than the traditional sources putting people on the ground. 20 years ago this would have been unimaginable. Dictators and oligarchs, underestimate the internet at your own peril.

The corporate media in the West is no longer the sole gatekeeper and as my generation (the millennials) grow up and get more involved they'll be less amenable to the big guys declaring the front runners before the people have had a chance to cast a single vote.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on August 13, 2011, 06:14:56 PM
Great! How many socks do you think I can vote with before my router fails?


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Jacobtm on August 13, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Voting more than once is just exercising your 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech. Shows you care.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: specific_name on August 13, 2011, 08:38:14 PM
Voting more than once is just exercising your 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech. Shows you care.

Vote early, vote often! It's your civic duty.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Meeker on August 13, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
The entire thing is a stalking horse for Michael Bloomberg.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: specific_name on August 13, 2011, 09:18:06 PM
The entire thing is a stalking horse for Michael Bloomberg.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/07/28/no-labels-and-americans-elect-a-list-of-known-connections/

I found this- if true, that's not good news. I should have let my usual cynicism restrain me. Looks like more astroturf.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Jacobtm on August 14, 2011, 11:51:39 AM
The links seem iffy at best. Just because you've worked for Candidate X in the past, doesn't mean everything you ever do in politics is for Candidate X.


Title: Re: Americans Elect 2012, online voting for a candidate in all 50 states.
Post by: Meeker on August 14, 2011, 02:24:08 PM
The links seem iffy at best. Just because you've worked for Candidate X in the past, doesn't mean everything you ever do in politics is for Candidate X.

The staffing links aren't the strongest part - it's the money. The elder Ackerman dropped $1.5 million on this effort. No one drops $1.5 million on a political cause without having a motive. The fact that they refuse to disclose any of their other donors should also make everyone wonder.

Also, the links with Unity08 (who Bloomberg was involved with three years ago) are indisputable. Americans Elect even has their old office space in D.C.