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Title: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Kodratos on December 17, 2004, 03:05:05 PM
Do any of you know which countries in Europe still allow handgun ownership?


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: John Dibble on December 17, 2004, 03:06:50 PM
Switzerland in all likeliness, considering they hand out machine guns.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 17, 2004, 05:28:59 PM
Do any of you know which countries in Europe still allow handgun ownership?

They got banned over here after the Dunblane massacre and resulting public outcry


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Kodratos on December 17, 2004, 05:30:32 PM
I know Baretta is based in Italy, and Glock is based in Austria, but I wasn't sure if those countries still allowed the guns themselves.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Julien on December 17, 2004, 06:09:47 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Colin on December 17, 2004, 07:17:24 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: ?????????? on December 19, 2004, 01:34:22 AM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Lunar on December 19, 2004, 02:07:18 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"

Who uses handguns distributed among the civilian population to face foreign invaders?


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Bono on December 19, 2004, 02:37:49 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"

Who uses handguns distributed among the civilian population to face foreign invaders?

Sitzerland distributes machine guns for that purpose,.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Lunar on December 19, 2004, 02:56:35 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"

Who uses handguns distributed among the civilian population to face foreign invaders?

Sitzerland distributes machine guns for that purpose,.

My point was about handguns.  Obviously machine guns have practical military applications in pushing back foreign invaders.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Huckleberry Finn on December 20, 2004, 05:13:34 PM
In Finland it's legal to own handguns. You need to get a licence, but I don't think that it's a big deal. You should probably join a hunting or a shooting-sport club too, but I'm not sure about that.

In countryside almost everybody owns guns, because everybody hunts.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Richard on December 20, 2004, 10:08:48 PM
In Finland it's legal to own handguns. You need to get a licence, but I don't think that it's a big deal. You should probably join a hunting or a shooting-sport club too, but I'm not sure about that.

In countryside almost everybody owns guns, because everybody hunts.
And the abundance of guns don't actually unnaturally react with chemicals in people's brains to cause them to kill people randomly?

AMAZING.  What guns do you have?  Our media teaches us that our guns do exactly that.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Tender Branson on August 14, 2007, 07:20:32 AM
Austria - but restricted. 

To apply for a carrying license, you have to be 21, take a safety handling-course, take a psychological examination (=250$), you must have no crimes committed so far and you have to give the local authority a legitimate reason why you want to purchase a gun. Normally you just need to say for personal safety reasons and the license is yours. You also have to be a EU-citizen.

After 4-6 weeks you´ll get your license from the local authority and after you took the safety handling course you are allowed to purchase up to 2 guns with mandatory registering afterwards and you have to inform the local authority if you change your place of residence.

I don´t know exactly how much the costs for the license application and the safety course are though but I think you´ll pay between 500 and 1000$ in the end for all 3 steps: The application, the psychological examination and the safety course.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: memphis on August 14, 2007, 05:41:48 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"

Who uses handguns distributed among the civilian population to face foreign invaders?

Iraqis.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on August 15, 2007, 12:22:03 AM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"

Who uses handguns distributed among the civilian population to face foreign invaders?

Iraqis.

AK-47s aren't handguns. Lots of countries dole out submachine guns and assault rifles to party militias, reservists, and the general public to fight invaders or rebels.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 15, 2007, 01:55:28 AM
Hmmm, looks like WalterMitty's delusion about European gun laws is dead wrong...


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Tender Branson on August 15, 2007, 02:30:55 AM
Hmmm, looks like WalterMitty's delusion about European gun laws is dead wrong...

What´s he thinking ?


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 15, 2007, 12:10:36 PM
Hmmm, looks like WalterMitty's delusion about European gun laws is dead wrong...

What´s he thinking ?

He claims that his views would be "normal" in Europe and always talks about "civilized countries" where handguns aren't allowed.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Tender Branson on August 15, 2007, 12:16:08 PM
Hmmm, looks like WalterMitty's delusion about European gun laws is dead wrong...

What´s he thinking ?

He claims that his views would be "normal" in Europe and always talks about "civilized countries" where handguns aren't allowed.

Ahh that´s a myth - aquiring a gun is just more difficult here in the EU than in the US, but it´s not outlawed, except in the UK I think. As far as I know you can get a handgun mostly everywhere for the conditions I stated.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: minionofmidas on August 15, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"
Well all I'll say is... the percentage of active hunters in France is sure several times higher than in Germany, probably not much different from the US.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Tender Branson on August 15, 2007, 01:21:13 PM
Hand guns are legal in France. We are probably the most hand gun friendly nation in Europe

I would have never expected that. Learn something new everyday.

They allow them because they would never be used if faced with a foreign enemy. They'd be used to buy foreign support. You know the old joke. "French guns for sale, never used, only dropped once"
Well all I'll say is... the percentage of active hunters in France is sure several times higher than in Germany, probably not much different from the US.

Not only in France hunting is popular, also here in Austria.

My neighbor is county hunting master or whatever that is called and the friend of my sister also enjoys to go for a hunt and has 2 rifles. He also said that he´ll take my niece (now about 9 months old) with him for hunting when she´s old enough to carry a gun *lol* I´m not amused with this at all ... :P Further I have also 2 uncles who are hunters ...


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: ?????????? on August 16, 2007, 12:50:22 AM
If a boar charges a French hunter do you think he'd a) shoot it or b) surrender? ;)


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: DanielX on August 16, 2007, 06:18:39 AM
If a boar charges a French hunter do you think he'd a) shoot it or b) surrender? ;)

Shoot it. It's not France's hunters that are the surrender monkeys, its a goodly part of its intellectual/political class.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: minionofmidas on August 17, 2007, 10:29:41 AM
If a boar charges a French hunter do you think he'd a) shoot it or b) surrender? ;)
Wrestle it to the ground and cook it in red wine, of course.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on August 21, 2007, 02:55:37 PM
If a boar charges a French hunter do you think he'd a) shoot it or b) surrender? ;)
Is it a german boar? If so then b)


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: SADM on August 22, 2007, 10:16:32 AM
I know that Germany does not, though really, I think it would make things better in Germany, alot less probablem I think with violent crime, as the only ones who have guns in Germany are hunters and Criminals (Neo-Nazi's, Antifa, etc etc..) might allow people to protect themselves better. Then again, German Police can carry MP5's alot more often then in America...so...


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: AkSaber on August 22, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
Hmmm. I used to think that Europe didn't allow any form of handgun ownership. Talk about a pleasant surprise. :P


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on August 22, 2007, 09:55:19 PM
I know that Germany does not, though really, I think it would make things better in Germany, alot less probablem I think with violent crime, as the only ones who have guns in Germany are hunters and Criminals (Neo-Nazi's, Antifa, etc etc..) might allow people to protect themselves better. Then again, German Police can carry MP5's alot more often then in America...so...

yeah that's one thing I noticed while I was in Europe: European police seem a lot better-armed than their American equivalents. Then again, there also seem to be less of them, though that may just be in the areas I visited.


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: minionofmidas on August 24, 2007, 07:44:50 AM
Antifa with guns? ??? Someone has a serious problem with reality here...


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: Tender Branson on August 24, 2007, 09:24:26 AM
Antifa with guns? ??? Someone has a serious problem with reality here...

Bingo


Title: Re: What European countries allow handgun ownership?
Post by: minionofmidas on August 24, 2007, 04:03:26 PM
Antifa with guns? ??? Someone has a serious problem with reality here...

Bingo
Although... I can think of *one* event, I'll grant him that. Even though it was more than 20 years ago. Frankfurt 1986, Startbahn West?