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Title: How has the electoral college changed for 2004?
Post by: Mock on March 26, 2004, 04:36:51 AM
I know some states picked up representatives, and others lost.  These translate into changes in the electoral college representation.  Florida, for instance, had population growth and gained two represetatives and thus now has 27 votes.

Does anyone have a list of all the changes in the electoral college?   A believe the southern states picked up quite a few votes.  Isn't this the pivotal element in the 2004 election?

I am non partisan.

Thanks...


Title: Re:How has the electoral college changed for 2004?
Post by: minionofmidas on March 26, 2004, 06:24:44 AM
Connecticut -1
New York -2
Pennsylvania -2
Ohio -1
Indiana -1
Illinois -1
Michigan -1
Wisconsin -1
Mississippi -1
Oklahoma -1

North Carolina +1
Georgia +2
Florida +2
Texas +2
Colorado +1
Arizona +2
Nevada +1
California +1

Bush states +7
Gore states -7

Northeast -5
Midwest -5
South +5
West +5


Title: Re:How has the electoral college changed for 2004?
Post by: JohnFKennedy on March 26, 2004, 08:05:10 AM
Connecticut -1
New York -2
Pennsylvania -2
Ohio -1
Indiana -1
Illinois -1
Michigan -1
Wisconsin -1
Mississippi -1
Oklahoma -1

North Carolina +1
Georgia +2
Florida +2
Texas +2
Colorado +1
Arizona +2
Nevada +1
California +1

Bush states +7
Gore states -7

Northeast -5
Midwest -5
South +5
West +5

yes, I was thinking this helps Bush as I looked down the list before I reached the gain and loss of each candidate.


Title: Re:How has the electoral college changed for 2004?
Post by: Gustaf on March 26, 2004, 04:28:02 PM
Connecticut -1
New York -2
Pennsylvania -2
Ohio -1
Indiana -1
Illinois -1
Michigan -1
Wisconsin -1
Mississippi -1
Oklahoma -1

North Carolina +1
Georgia +2
Florida +2
Texas +2
Colorado +1
Arizona +2
Nevada +1
California +1

Bush states +7
Gore states -7

Northeast -5
Midwest -5
South +5
West +5

yes, I was thinking this helps Bush as I looked down the list before I reached the gain and loss of each candidate.

In the short term is helps him, but we're seeing a transfer of EVs to GOP states that are trending Dem: AZ, NV, CO, NC, VA, FL, TX, etc.


Title: Re:How has the electoral college changed for 2004?
Post by: Mr. Morden on August 24, 2012, 02:08:24 AM
This is a very good point. Still Kerry will likely lose. In 2008 I think upcoming Senator Barack Obama will be nominated and will choose Senator Biden for VP, and his rival will be Mccain and mayor of Wasilla Sarah Palin. Obama will be challenged by Mitt Romney and his running mate, congressman Ryan. I wonder if i'll be right?

Neither McCain nor Romney has a shot at ever winning the GOP presidential nomination.  McCain is virtually a Democrat (http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/man-not-republican), who some Dems were urging to switch parties and run for president as a Dem this year:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2002/04/come_home_mccain.html

And Romney is a pro-choicer who bragged that he was to the left of Ted Kennedy on gay rights.

In any case, I agree with Phil here:

Let's face reality, folks. Neither McCain, Giuliani nor Romney will be candidates for President in 2008 and if they are, they won't get far!