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Title: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 06:59:06 am
All the maps in this thread are in the gallery.

Map of central Israel plurality vote winner in 2009 by municipality


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Note that about 3.4 million (42% of Israel population) people live in the area.

Edit: changed the original centre map to fit in with the other maps so that every part of the country is covered


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 08:28:47 am
Fantastic, Is there anyway to add municipal names? It would be great to see who won over where... It looks like Kadima won over Tel-Aviv but thats the only local i can pin-point... i'm interested in that strong left area in the north (two green Meretz and 1 Labour).
Also, does this show the Kibbutz's?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 09, 2011, 08:53:33 am
I can't wait to see the northern results


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 10:02:34 am
Fantastic, Is there anyway to add municipal names? It would be great to see who won over where... It looks like Kadima won over Tel-Aviv but thats the only local i can pin-point... i'm interested in that strong left area in the north (two green Meretz and 1 Labour).
Also, does this show the Kibbutz's?
Yes, it includes kibbutzim and moshavim.
The two Meretz places are Ga'ash (southern one) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%27ash) and Yakum(north) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakum), and the Labour one is Shefayim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shefayim). All of those are kibbutzim.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 10:18:20 am
Fantastic, Is there anyway to add municipal names? It would be great to see who won over where... It looks like Kadima won over Tel-Aviv but thats the only local i can pin-point... i'm interested in that strong left area in the north (two green Meretz and 1 Labour).
Also, does this show the Kibbutz's?
Yes, it includes kibbutzim and moshavim.
The two Meretz places are Ga'ash (southern one) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%27ash) and Yakum(north) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakum), and the Labour one is Shefayim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shefayim). All of those are kibbutzim.

Thanks! i thought that was the case, i knew that Labout & Meretz typically do perform better among the Kibbutzim and moshavim (thats for the plural form aswell :)

looking forward to the north/south

Am i right that Kadima also won Jerusalem? that just seems odd to me, as i thought Likud would out perfom there?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 10:33:28 am

Am i right that Kadima also won Jerusalem? that just seems odd to me, as i thought Likud would out perfom there?

Not even close, Likud won, while Kadima came in fourth behind UTJ and Shas with less than half of Likuds vote.
In fact, they came in fourth in the 2006 election ( behind UTJ Shas and NU-NRP) as well even though they easily won the national vote.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 09, 2011, 10:39:20 am
Where do you get this data from?? I'd love to see some results from Judea and Samaria


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 10:41:01 am
I edited the map to include the names of all the cities with a population above 50,000:

Big cities:
Tel Aviv (404,300)
Rishon Letzion (231,000)
Petah Tikva (211,100)

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 10:45:37 am
Where do you get this data from?? I'd love to see some results from Judea and Samaria

The data comes from the Knesset website but it's only in Hebrew.
I can get the results from the settlements, unfortunately they don't seem to have defined borders so I can't do it in map form.
But if you want the results from any specific place then tell me.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 09, 2011, 10:46:21 am
If you could link?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 10:47:53 am

Am i right that Kadima also won Jerusalem? that just seems odd to me, as i thought Likud would out perfom there?

Not even close, Likud won, while Kadima came in fourth behind UTJ and Shas with less than half of Likuds vote.
In fact, they came in fourth in the 2006 election ( behind UTJ Shas and NU-NRP) as well even though they easily won the national vote.

NOW that makes sense... Jerusalem just sticks in my craw as being this bastian of the religious/right... My bad i was looking at that blob thats actually Modi'in-Maccabim-Re'ut (i had to look it up)

I'm with Teddy, if you have the other districts that would be awesome (Northern, Southern, Haifa and Jerusalem).... you updated it, YOU ROCK

So Ashdod i am guessing has a high Russian populartion to explain why Yisrael Beitenu took it?

How is Labour perfoming under Shelly Yachimovich?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 09, 2011, 10:48:52 am
I'd be willing to sit with a blank map and translator and map some of these results myself.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 10:52:11 am
If you could link?

Here (doesn't work on firefox). (http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections18/heb/results/City_list.aspx)


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 11:15:48 am

NOW that makes sense... Jerusalem just sticks in my craw as being this bastian of the religious/right... My bad i was looking at that blob thats actually Modi'in-Maccabim-Re'ut (i had to look it up)


It very much is a bastion of the right It was about 75%-25% for the right-religious against everyone else.

I'm with Teddy, if you have the other districts that would be awesome (Northern, Southern, Haifa and Jerusalem).... you updated it, YOU ROCK
I plan on doing the rest of the country eventually but I can't promise anything about when.

So Ashdod i am guessing has a high Russian populartion to explain why Yisrael Beitenu took it?
Yes, huge, the biggest in Israel.

How is Labour perfoming under Shelly Yachimovich?

Better than with Barak beating Kadima to second but not a threat Likud right now.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 11:33:30 am
baby steps labour :P
I hope Meretz manages to get its act together too... seems like the Left took a massive blow in 2009... I don't consider kadima left so

Can you exlpain the difference between all those religious parties? (Shas, UTJ, National Union, Jewish Home)?

Israel is generally held up as a mess of an example of why PR list with a low threshold can get... complicated (being nice)


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 09, 2011, 12:13:11 pm
Well, yes. The first step must be rebuilding...

Anyways, great maps. Do you have anything showing results inside Tel Aviv?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 12:39:02 pm
baby steps labour :P
I hope Meretz manages to get its act together too... seems like the Left took a massive blow in 2009... I don't consider kadima left so

Can you exlpain the difference between all those religious parties? (Shas, UTJ, National Union, Jewish Home)?

Israel is generally held up as a mess of an example of why PR list with a low threshold can get... complicated (being nice)
UTJ is union of two parties:
The Lithuanian Haredi Degel Hatorah which is the party for non-hasidic, ashkenazi, ultra orthodox Jews.
Agudat Israel is the hasidic party (who are also overwhelmingly ashkenazi).
combined UTJ acts as a party for all Ultra orthodox ashkenazi jews (except for chabad).

Shas is the party of Sephardi ultra orthodox, however most of its vote comes from non-ultra orthodox sephardim.

National Union is a union of 4 parties, which range in religion from secular to a kind of mixture of ultra orthodoxy and the more religiously moderate "religious Zionism"  called "hardal". the common denominator for this group is extreme hawkish views.

Jewish Home is the descendant of the National Religious party, the formerly general party for the religious Zionism it wasn't originally a right wing party at all but drifted right over time as religious people in general have. It's basically a more pragmatic version of the NU.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 09, 2011, 12:44:18 pm
Now what I'd really like to see is party strength maps for the Arab parties. :P


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 12:51:53 pm
Well, yes. The first step must be rebuilding...

Anyways, great maps. Do you have anything showing results inside Tel Aviv?
Here is a link] (http://www.tel-aviv.gov.il/TheCity/Documents/%D7%93%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A1%D7%99%20%D7%94%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%94%20%D7%A9%D7%9C%20%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%20%D7%AA%D7%9C-%D7%90%D7%91%D7%99%D7%91-%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%20%D7%91%D7%91%D7%97%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA.pdf) to a PDF document in Hebrew, if you scroll to the bottom there are maps:

Kadima is purple.
Likud is blue.
Labour is orange.
Meretz is green.
Shas is light blue.
Israel Beitenu is red.
Others is yellow.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 09, 2011, 12:56:40 pm
Diolch!


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 12:58:54 pm
Croeso


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 01:18:41 pm
Interesting North/South divide there eh...
North end (minus the coast) is where Labour i strongest, i'm guessing working class. Kadima also looks to dominate here especially on the coast

The central wards (3-6) is where Meretz is strongest (5&6 look to be equal to Labour) thats not surprising; probably artsy, secular, mixed; very Copenhagen looking

South is all Likud, probably wealthy... but in ward 7, Yellow has strength, would that be an arab or religious party?

I would assume Israeli-arabs would vote for Hadash or Balad... then Labour, Meretz, Kadima. The arab parties then the more dovish ones?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 09, 2011, 01:22:55 pm
IIRC the best Meretz parts of Tel Aviv are middle class lefty clichéland. Main division would presumably be ethnic though, especially with Labour and Likud. I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 01:35:22 pm
Interesting North/South divide there eh...
North end (minus the coast) is where Labour i strongest, i'm guessing working class. Kadima also looks to dominate here especially on the coast

The central wards (3-6) is where Meretz is strongest (5&6 look to be equal to Labour) thats not surprising; probably artsy, secular, mixed; very Copenhagen looking

South is all Likud, probably wealthy... but in ward 7, Yellow has strength, would that be an arab or religious party?

I would assume Israeli-arabs would vote for Hadash or Balad... then Labour, Meretz, Kadima. The arab parties then the more dovish ones?



You have it mixed up, in Israel, as a general rule, amongst Jews, rich people vote for the left(now also including Kadima) while the poor vote for the right.

The central wards are indeed secular and artsy (and gay) but I wouldn't call it mixed, in Israeli ethno-religious sense its quite homogenic (young secular Ashkenazi).

The North is the super wealthy part (and thus a high vote for Kadima and Labour).

The south is the poor (and more sephardi) area.

The area with a lot of yellow includes Jaffa, the Arab part who vote for the Arab parties.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: lilTommy on December 09, 2011, 01:52:17 pm
Interesting North/South divide there eh...
North end (minus the coast) is where Labour i strongest, i'm guessing working class. Kadima also looks to dominate here especially on the coast

The central wards (3-6) is where Meretz is strongest (5&6 look to be equal to Labour) thats not surprising; probably artsy, secular, mixed; very Copenhagen looking

South is all Likud, probably wealthy... but in ward 7, Yellow has strength, would that be an arab or religious party?

I would assume Israeli-arabs would vote for Hadash or Balad... then Labour, Meretz, Kadima. The arab parties then the more dovish ones?



You have it mixed up, in Israel, as a general rule, amongst Jews, rich people vote for the left(now also including Kadima) while the poor vote for the right.

The central wards are indeed secular and artsy (and gay) but I wouldn't call it mixed, in Israeli ethno-religious sense its quite homogenic (young secular Ashkenazi).

The North is the super wealthy part (and thus a high vote for Kadima and Labour).

The south poor area.

The area with a lot of yellow includes Jaffa, the Arab part who vote for the Arab parties.


Huhh thats rather interesting... my guess is wealth=education=knowledge of the issues... therefore they are more likely to vote for parties who are less reactionist. Thats my leftwing analogy.

Like you mentioned above the religious groups seem to vote along different paterns, do the Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Beta ... (missing any?) vote along those paterns?



Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 09, 2011, 02:04:06 pm
It's mostly an ethnic issue, even if that might not be quite the right word. The Israeli Left (however defined) has almost always been a very Ashkenazi thing. Mapai and then Labour never really bothered to reach out to the Sephardi communities when it mattered, leaving them to Likud. Some interpretations of that fact are not especially charitable. Of course if you're looking in terms of raw socio-economic tendencies, things can quickly get very complicated in Israel, because of the various Religious (big 'r' important) communities.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 02:18:20 pm

Huhh thats rather interesting... my guess is wealth=education=knowledge of the issues... therefore they are more likely to vote for parties who are less reactionist. Thats my leftwing analogy.

Like you mentioned above the religious groups seem to vote along different paterns, do the Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Beta ... (missing any?) vote along those paterns?



Secular ashkenazis, the historic "elites" and founders, are the base of the left.
Sephardi/Mizrahi vote for the right (Likud and Shas).
Beta (Ethiopians) are a new immigrant and very poor group and also vote mostly for the right.
There are also the immigrants that came from the USSR after its collapse who nowadays also vote for the right (Yisrael Beitenu and Likud)

The long term problem of the left is that its base has a slower population growth than the country as a whole.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 06:52:11 pm
Map of Kadima strength:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 09, 2011, 06:53:16 pm
And Likud:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 16, 2011, 08:48:41 am
Haifa district:
population 913,000

Big cities:
Haifa (268,200)
Hadera (81,500)
Kiryat Atta (51,500)

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 16, 2011, 07:50:05 pm
Thanks, but, can I request something with fewer jews :P I'm much more curious how places full of Arabs vote!


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on December 16, 2011, 08:39:54 pm
I think you'll find that Umm Al-Fahm is full of Arabs...


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 04:02:56 am
Thanks, but, can I request something with fewer jews :P I'm much more curious how places full of Arabs vote!
They generally vote like the southeast part of the Haifa district, except for the south where everyone votes UAL.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 17, 2011, 04:27:27 am
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 08:41:46 am
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?
No, There are no Jewish minority towns in Israel, all cities and villages in Israel either have a Jewish majority (usually with no Arabs and a few with an Arab minority) or a basically non-existent one. What that area has is something that isn't uncommon at all in Israel, which is a 99+% Arab town adjacent to a 99+% Jewish one.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 17, 2011, 08:58:33 am
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?
No, There are no Jewish minority towns in Israel, all cities and villages in Israel either have a Jewish majority (usually with no Arabs and a few with an Arab minority) or a basically non-existent one. What that area has is something that isn't uncommon at all in Israel, which is a 99+% Arab town adjacent to a 99+% Jewish one.
Yeah. That sounds logical. It was just the appearance of all three Arab parties next to each other that made me wonder.
So is that a random occurrence or is it normal for Arab towns to vote en bloc for one of the three?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on December 17, 2011, 11:03:37 am
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?
No, There are no Jewish minority towns in Israel, all cities and villages in Israel either have a Jewish majority (usually with no Arabs and a few with an Arab minority) or a basically non-existent one. What that area has is something that isn't uncommon at all in Israel, which is a 99+% Arab town adjacent to a 99+% Jewish one.

There is a part of the north that's very Arab and Non-Jewish... where is my map.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 11:50:00 am
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?
No, There are no Jewish minority towns in Israel, all cities and villages in Israel either have a Jewish majority (usually with no Arabs and a few with an Arab minority) or a basically non-existent one. What that area has is something that isn't uncommon at all in Israel, which is a 99+% Arab town adjacent to a 99+% Jewish one.
Yeah. That sounds logical. It was just the appearance of all three Arab parties next to each other that made me wonder.
So is that a random occurrence or is it normal for Arab towns to vote en bloc for one of the three?

Those towns didn't vote en bloc they just had a different percent voting for each of the three, for example:

Umm al-Fahm: Hadash-55%, Balad-24%, UAL-19%
Ar'ara: Balad-44%, UAL-32%, Hadash-21%
Baqa-Jatt: UAL-48%, Balad-39%, Hadash-5%


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 12:09:02 pm
Oh yeah, there seems to be a fairly solid Arab-majority part there. Possibly even some of the Jewish-colored nearby municipalities thanks to vote splitting?
No, There are no Jewish minority towns in Israel, all cities and villages in Israel either have a Jewish majority (usually with no Arabs and a few with an Arab minority) or a basically non-existent one. What that area has is something that isn't uncommon at all in Israel, which is a 99+% Arab town adjacent to a 99+% Jewish one.

There is a part of the north that's very Arab and Non-Jewish... where is my map.

Yes, the north district is 53% Arab, unfortunately, it also has a million little towns and villages
(total population of 1.3 million but the largest city is only 70 thousand) which means it will be the hardest one to do, so it won't be done anytime soon.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 17, 2011, 12:14:52 pm

Those towns didn't vote en bloc they just had a different percent voting for each of the three, for example:

Umm al-Fahm: Hadash-55%, Balad-24%, UAL-19%
Baqa-Jatt: UAL-48%, Balad-39%, Hadash-5%
Not exactly blockvoting, no. But a pretty damn striking difference nonetheless.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 01:35:21 pm

Those towns didn't vote en bloc they just had a different percent voting for each of the three, for example:

Umm al-Fahm: Hadash-55%, Balad-24%, UAL-19%
Baqa-Jatt: UAL-48%, Balad-39%, Hadash-5%
Not exactly blockvoting, no. But a pretty damn striking difference nonetheless.

Different, yes, but pretty mild compared some other places in Israel with real bloc voting:

Ar'ara-in-the-negev (southern Bedouin): UAL-95% (2534 votes out of 2664 total)
Yitzhar (far right settlement): National Union-87%
Beit Hilkia (ultra Orthodox Moshav): UTJ-84%


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 17, 2011, 03:09:03 pm
Jerusalem district
population 945,000

big cities:
Jerusalem (788,100)
Beit Shemesh (80,600)
Mevaseret Zion (24,000)

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on January 01, 2012, 11:52:11 am
Thanks, but, can I request something with fewer jews :P I'm much more curious how places full of Arabs vote!
Took a bit of time but here is the North district:

Population: 1,242,100

Religion:

Jews: 44.2%
Muslims: 37.7%
Druze: 8%
Christian:7.3%
Other: 2.8%
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I labeled everything over 15k population


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on January 01, 2012, 12:04:22 pm
Beautiful.

Where do the Druze live and how do they vote?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on January 01, 2012, 12:24:00 pm
Beautiful.

Where do the Druze live and how do they vote?
They live mostly around an area where I labeled Yarka.

Their vote is all over the place, there are majority Druze localities that voted for each of Kadima, Likud, Shas and Labour.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on January 01, 2012, 12:34:51 pm
Shas?

Now that was unexpected.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on January 01, 2012, 12:46:47 pm
Shas?

Now that was unexpected.

Yeah, that surprised me as well.

Actually amongst Arabs (non-Druze ) there seems to be a close fight between Shas and Labour for the biggest Jewish party. And no, I have no idea why Shas would appeal to Arabs (Labour is understandable).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on January 01, 2012, 03:58:58 pm
Thanks, but, can I request something with fewer jews :P I'm much more curious how places full of Arabs vote!
Took a bit of time but here is the North district:

Population: 1,242,100

Religion:

Jews: 44.2%
Muslims: 37.7%
Druze: 8%
Christian:7.3%
Other: 2.8%
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I labeled everything over 15k population

OMG thank you!!! This is going to take quite a while of time to enjoy properly. I'll finish my other Internet errands and come back here to analyse this when I can focus.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on January 01, 2012, 04:45:30 pm
I recoloured it based on arab, moderate, and right-wing parties
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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on January 01, 2012, 05:12:05 pm
Your map Teddy, shows one of the problems for the Zionist left-centre, you can see how they couldn't win a single city.

Oh, and Yisrael Hazaka was actually a left wing party founded by a former Labourite that supported the separation of state and church.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 17, 2012, 05:34:55 pm
Southern Israel

Map1:

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Map 2 continues directly to the south of the first (I had to split it since it went over 2,500 pixels combined):

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Note that there are some Bedouins who live in unrecognized villages or as nomads who vote heavily for the UAL-TAAL but don't show up in this map.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 17, 2012, 05:36:35 pm
More Meretz than I'd have guessed.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 17, 2012, 05:42:24 pm
More Meretz than I'd have guessed.

Yes, but Meretz only wins little villages (this applies to the whole country).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 17, 2012, 05:43:29 pm
More Meretz than I'd have guessed.

Yes, but Meretz only wins little villages (this applies to the whole country).

Oh sure, sure. It's just that I'm mildly surprised that there are still as many of those little villages as there are.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 12:36:36 pm
I can't find good maps for the settlements, so I'm going to do the 2006 election now.

Starting with the south:

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Part 2:
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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 18, 2012, 12:39:22 pm
Much of that red being a personal vote for Peretz?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 01:00:19 pm
Much of that red being a personal vote for Peretz?

Yes, it includes a lot of Mizrahi places that would normally vote Likud, except in this election the Likud was terrible, and because of Peretz Labour was much more appealing than usual.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 02:07:56 pm
Jerusalem district 2006:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 18, 2012, 02:22:27 pm
Ah, I forgot that UTJ topped the poll in Jerusalem that election.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 02:45:36 pm
Ah, I forgot that UTJ topped the poll in Jerusalem that election.
Likud performed so badly in 2006 that the 3 biggest parties in Jerusalem were all religious (UTJ, Shas, NU-NRP).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 18, 2012, 04:27:34 pm
Haifa 2006:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 19, 2012, 03:25:29 pm
North district 2006:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: homelycooking on February 19, 2012, 03:37:34 pm
This thread is a thing of beauty, thankyouthankyouthankyou.

Any chance of some comparative maps, such as Labor v Kadima or Likud v Y.B.?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 19, 2012, 04:26:48 pm
This thread is a thing of beauty, thankyouthankyouthankyou.

Any chance of some comparative maps, such as Labor v Kadima or Likud v Y.B.?

Maybe, I don't yet know what I will do when I am done with the current maps, for which I plan to go back until the 1999 election eventually (this will take awhile). Although doing such comparative maps might be a problem as all the parties are irrelevant in many places.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 25, 2012, 12:39:39 pm
I made a new version of the 2009 centre map to fit in with the others so that it covers every part of the country (minus the settlements):
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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 25, 2012, 12:41:50 pm
And here Is 2006:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 29, 2012, 07:19:03 am
Continuing with the 2003 election, starting with Centre:

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An interesting thing that does not show up on the map is that Shinui, while it came first in almost nowhere, came second in lots of places (to Likud in a lot of those blue cities, and to Labour in a lot of Labour villages).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 29, 2012, 10:18:06 am
Jerusalem district 2003:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 29, 2012, 01:04:41 pm
Haifa district 2003:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 29, 2012, 06:55:44 pm
South district 2003.

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on April 05, 2012, 07:16:05 am
North 2003:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on April 05, 2012, 01:55:08 pm
Moving on to the 2001 prime-ministerial election, starting with Jerusalem:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on April 07, 2012, 06:46:31 am
Central Israel 2001:


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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 13, 2012, 07:11:10 pm
Semester is over, it's time to continue this.

2001 Haifa:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 14, 2012, 01:58:42 pm
2001 South:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on August 14, 2012, 03:14:00 pm
This particular set is really quite something. Diolch!


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 15, 2012, 07:50:01 pm
2001 North:

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This map can be somewhat misleading because Arab turnout in this election was truly pathetic.


The next maps will be the 1999 election (both PM and Knesset), the last election I have data for.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: NY Jew on August 17, 2012, 06:48:37 am
is there anyway you can do the gaza elections?  curious on the vote of the people Sharon betrayed

also curious which system you preferred this system or the current one.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 17, 2012, 01:57:54 pm
is there anyway you can do the gaza elections?  curious on the vote of the people Sharon betrayed

also curious which system you preferred this system or the current one.

The problem with the settlements is that I don't have a good map for them.

The old system isn't too bad when the Prime ministerial elections and the Knesset elections were at the same time, but having a prime ministerial election alone like 2001 is a bad idea.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 17, 2012, 07:51:30 pm
1999 Jerusalem PM:

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1999 Jerusalem Knesset:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 17, 2012, 08:27:14 pm
Fun fact: in all 4 Knesset elections between 1999 and 2009, the highest placing Left or centre party in Jerusalem always came fourth.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: MaxQue on August 18, 2012, 02:50:52 pm
Fun fact: in all 4 Knesset elections between 1999 and 2009, the highest placing Left or centre party in Jerusalem always came fourth.

Isn't that normal? I remember seeing a reportage on French news than parts of the cities were dominated with Orthodoxs (which caused problems with women not dressed enough in buses).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 25, 2012, 05:51:39 pm
Fun fact: in all 4 Knesset elections between 1999 and 2009, the highest placing Left or centre party in Jerusalem always came fourth.

Isn't that normal? I remember seeing a reportage on French news than parts of the cities were dominated with Orthodoxs (which caused problems with women not dressed enough in buses).

since it happened 4 times in a row, than I suppose that by definition you could call it normal. The comment was about the fact that regardless of the different parties and varying strengths on a national level, the vote in Jerusalem stayed the same.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on August 25, 2012, 05:59:41 pm
Centre 1999 PM:

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Centre 1999 Knesset:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2012, 01:52:28 pm
Haifa district 1999:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 22, 2012, 08:15:51 pm
South 1999 Knesset:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 22, 2012, 08:22:38 pm
South 1999 PM:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on October 02, 2012, 07:28:30 pm
North 1999:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on October 02, 2012, 11:00:57 pm
BTW, if someone has a good municipal of the settlements, then please share, because I am having a hard time finding one.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on October 05, 2012, 06:00:49 am
OK, I found something for the settlements.

Judea and Samaria (West Bank) 2009:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on October 05, 2012, 02:41:45 pm
2006:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on October 20, 2012, 10:45:03 am
Very interesting indeed! After looking through this segmentation I had some questions:
- that labour dot in Jerusalem which appears in every diagram is that rehavya? I can't think of another in-city Jerusalem neighborhood that will see a left victory
- do you have data specifically for Haifa city not metro?
- do you have a segmentation of IDf voting?
- is there a way to get data from 1992 general election?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on October 20, 2012, 11:33:44 am
Very interesting indeed! After looking through this segmentation I had some questions:
- that labour dot in Jerusalem which appears in every diagram is that rehavya? I can't think of another in-city Jerusalem neighborhood that will see a left victory

This is a municipal map, so all of Jerusalem is located in the place labeled Jerusalem. That dot is Kibbutz Ramat Rachel, which is not part of Jerusalem even though it is encircled by it.

- do you have data specifically for Haifa city not metro?

That is Haifa City, the metro includes the Krayot (and more), which as you can see, is included separately on the map.

- do you have a segmentation of IDf voting?

Unfortunately, No.

- is there a way to get data from 1992 general election?

on a municipal level I can only get data from 1999, I get this from the knesset website  (http://main.knesset.gov.il/mk/elections/Pages/default.aspx) (תגלגל למטה איפה שכתוב אתרי בחירות), go there if you want to know exact percentages for each municipality.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:10:53 pm
Here are some maps of the 2013 election in Jerusalem (percent of the vote in Jerusalem):

UTJ (22%):
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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:12:05 pm
Likud Beitenu (21%):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:14:39 pm
Shas (16%):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:15:40 pm
Jewish Home (12%):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:16:42 pm
Yesh Atid (7%):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on September 17, 2013, 02:17:38 pm
Turnout (65.12%):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 17, 2013, 03:22:59 pm
Interesting stuff, as always.

Might as well repost the stuff I did earlier in the year:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 04, 2014, 05:46:46 am
2013 plurality winner, central Israel:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on December 04, 2014, 06:21:30 am
http://www.madlan.co.il/elections/2013

This site has a more detailed in city results


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 27, 2014, 09:05:00 am
2013 plurality winner, Haifa district:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on December 27, 2014, 05:24:55 pm
2013 plurality winner, Jerusalem district:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: DavidB. on February 02, 2015, 06:53:21 am
This is an amazing thread! It's truly a shame that Walla! has taken its map of 2013 results by municipality offline.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 21, 2015, 12:18:49 pm

2013 plurality winner, North district:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Watermelon sin Jamón on February 28, 2015, 08:30:05 am
Israeli electoral maps just might be the world's most multicolored ! It looks like a Miró or something !


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on March 03, 2015, 10:50:05 pm
2013 plurality winner, Judea and Samaria district (settlements):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Famous Mortimer on March 04, 2015, 03:59:44 am
Tell us about the Labor and Yesh Atid settlements.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on March 04, 2015, 01:41:41 pm
Tell us about the Labor and Yesh Atid settlements.
Labour ones are mainly Kibbutzim from the 70s not very right wing and they keep saying they'll leave with the agreement (and the right reimbursement) YA ones are mainly secular settlements, but you need to understand that he probably won all of them with <30% of the vote not really centrist place but they probably tilted because the 2013 elections were not on the Palestinian matter at all.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on March 04, 2015, 01:43:27 pm
Tell us about the Labor and Yesh Atid settlements.

The Labour ones are either Kibbutzim or Moshavim founded by Labour related groups.

The Yesh Atid you see in the Western part are basically generic suburbs of Tel-Aviv or Jerusalem that just happen to be located just beyond the green line, but being on that side of the green line is not why they decided to live there.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: The Mikado on March 04, 2015, 01:49:18 pm
Can there be a stable-for-Israel government out of this election that does not contain both Likud and Labor?  Looking at the numbers, I'm having trouble coming up with a Likud government with over 66ish seats, and a government with 61-65 seats is implausible.

Likud can't invite in the Arabs or the fascists, Meretz won't join, and he can have either the Haredi parties or Yesh Atid but not both. There's no obvious Likud coalition that isn't a grand coalition with Labor plus Kulanu, the Haredi, and Jewish Home and maybe Lieberman.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: ag on March 04, 2015, 02:01:21 pm
Can there be a stable-for-Israel government out of this election that does not contain both Likud and Labor?  Looking at the numbers, I'm having trouble coming up with a Likud government with over 66ish seats, and a government with 61-65 seats is implausible.

Likud can't invite in the Arabs or the fascists, Meretz won't join, and he can have either the Haredi parties or Yesh Atid but not both. There's no obvious Likud coalition that isn't a grand coalition with Labor plus Kulanu, the Haredi, and Jewish Home and maybe Lieberman.

Likud will happily invite Yachad, though they may go through the motions of asking Marzel personally to stay out. And, in any case, you only need 61 - nothing at all implausible about that. The only objection is that Netanyahu likes being in the center of his cabinet, while in this case he will be pretty far to the left. But, frankly, hard for me to see the argument he can make to have any Labor leader to accept being second fiddle to him. The grand coalition would have to, at least, involve alternation, and it is hard to see why would Netanyahu prefer that to having a smaller coalition.

Should it be in the other thread, though?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on March 04, 2015, 02:07:14 pm
Mikado's question belongs in the other thread so I answered it there.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on March 06, 2015, 11:24:31 pm
2013 plurality winner, south district:
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part 2:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on May 16, 2015, 07:07:16 am
2015 Jerusalem district:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on May 16, 2015, 09:20:25 am
it's a shame we don't have maps who show swings. I think it was the most polarizing election since the 90's


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on May 16, 2015, 09:55:13 am
it's a shame we don't have maps who show swings. I think it was the most polarizing election since the 90's

swings are problematic with the way Israeli politics work, but I was thinking of doing a map of coalition versus opposition, I wonder if I should include Yachad with the coalition though (because they would mostly be in the coalition, and if they didn't exist their voters would overwhelmingly voted for coalition parties).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on May 16, 2015, 10:11:33 am
it's a shame we don't have maps who show swings. I think it was the most polarizing election since the 90's

swings are problematic with the way Israeli politics work, but I was thinking of doing a map of coalition versus opposition, I wonder if I should include Yachad with the coalition though (because they would mostly be in the coalition, and if they didn't exist their voters would overwhelmingly voted for coalition parties).
A bit problematic due to centre party issues. I think a swing map for ZU and Likud is preferable or at most with Meretz\JH+Liberman


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on May 16, 2015, 10:20:49 am
it's a shame we don't have maps who show swings. I think it was the most polarizing election since the 90's

swings are problematic with the way Israeli politics work, but I was thinking of doing a map of coalition versus opposition, I wonder if I should include Yachad with the coalition though (because they would mostly be in the coalition, and if they didn't exist their voters would overwhelmingly voted for coalition parties).
A bit problematic due to centre party issues. I think a swing map for ZU and Likud is preferable or at most with Meretz\JH+Liberman

Centre party issues are a problem if you try to make a right versus left map, but that isn't a problem with coalition versus opposition and allows you to include (almost) all of the parties. Obviously you have to keep in mind that coalition and opposition parties can be very different from one another (particularly opposition).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on May 17, 2015, 07:48:11 am
Centre district 2015:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: DavidB. on June 01, 2015, 08:16:13 pm
Yahad getting 76,8% in Kfar Habad is still one of the most remarkable/funny results :p


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on June 02, 2015, 12:57:10 pm
Yahad getting 76,8% in Kfar Habad is still one of the most remarkable/funny results :p

The most right wing party always performs like this over there. It's all because of their Rebbe, who was against giving up any land.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on November 23, 2015, 04:37:45 pm
Found this neat blog/website that has the results by city in Israel.

http://jewschool.com/2015/03/36491/israel-votes-2015-an-interactive-map-of-election-results/



Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 19, 2016, 01:32:18 am
Haifa district 2015:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 19, 2016, 12:57:37 pm
Judea and Samaria (Israeli settlements) 2015:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Watermelon sin Jamón on February 19, 2016, 07:04:17 pm
Judea and Samaria (Israeli settlements) 2015:

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I looked really hard at that map to find green spots : light green would have infuriated me, dark green would have made me literally lough out loud. With the way Israeli politics tend to be hilarious, I really expected to find at least one of both, but didn't. :(


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 19, 2016, 10:12:24 pm
I looked really hard at that map to find green spots : light green would have infuriated me, dark green would have made me literally lough out loud. With the way Israeli politics tend to be hilarious, I really expected to find at least one of both, but didn't. :(

There is nothing even close to Meretz winning, the biggest percent they got was in Niran (one of the Red ones in the east), where they got 9.1%. There only 55 votes in total: ZU-47 Meretz-5 YA-3, with zero votes for everyone else.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 20, 2016, 01:51:02 pm
Northern district 2015:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on February 20, 2016, 09:17:12 pm
The last area left, South district 2015:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Watermelon sin Jamón on February 22, 2016, 09:42:03 am
Why is there so much grey ground ? Are they some kind of unincorporated territories ?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: DavidB. on February 22, 2016, 09:52:37 am
Why is there so much grey ground ? Are they some kind of unincorporated territories ?
That's the Negev desert. The territory outside the major settlements doesn't belong to any municipality as that wouldn't make much sense: almost nobody lives there (apart from some Bedouin tribes).


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on February 23, 2016, 11:27:41 am
Why is there so much grey ground ? Are they some kind of unincorporated territories ?
Most of the grey one is state\JNF owned with no town in it usually reservoirs and IDF training areas.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on June 14, 2016, 11:04:10 am
Centre 2015 grouped into Right-coalition and Left-opposition:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on June 14, 2016, 11:25:16 am
Nice! Great job danny!


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on June 15, 2016, 06:04:14 am
Nice! Great job danny!

Thanks

Same map as before for Jerusalem district:

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on June 16, 2016, 11:53:35 am
if there was map for Tel Aviv wards it would have been some of the strongest north-south divide within a city


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 03, 2016, 08:57:04 am
Haifa:

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The City of Haifa itself was incredibly close, with the left-opposition winning by 0.11%


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: parochial boy on July 03, 2016, 01:33:57 pm
The last area left, South district 2015:

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I'm a bit late, but is it not a little surprising that the towns on the edge of the Gaza strip went for the Zionist Union?

I would have thought they would be strongly Likud given the rocket attacks and, I believe, a demographic that is largely Sephardi Jews, who tend to be reliably conservative.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on July 03, 2016, 01:47:10 pm
Haifa:

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The City of Haifa itself was incredibly close, with the left-opposition winning by 0.11%

As usual, Danny, amazing work.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 03, 2016, 01:48:22 pm
I'm a bit late, but is it not a little surprising that the towns on the edge of the Gaza strip went for the Zionist Union?

I would have thought they would be strongly Likud given the rocket attacks and, I believe, a demographic that is largely Sephardi Jews, who tend to be reliably conservative.
All those Zionist Union places near Gaza are mostly Ashkenazi Kibbutzim or Moshvim and not towns, all the urban places in the area went heavily for the right. Being next to Gaza has little effect, demographics are far more important.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on July 03, 2016, 02:48:18 pm
I'm a bit late, but is it not a little surprising that the towns on the edge of the Gaza strip went for the Zionist Union?

I would have thought they would be strongly Likud given the rocket attacks and, I believe, a demographic that is largely Sephardi Jews, who tend to be reliably conservative.
All those Zionist Union places near Gaza are mostly Ashkenazi Kibbutzim or Moshvim and not towns, all the urban places in the area went heavily for the right. Being next to Gaza has little effect, demographics are far more important.
Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 03, 2016, 03:25:48 pm

Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)

Most South American Jews are Ashkenazi.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on July 03, 2016, 03:52:24 pm

Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)

Most South American Jews are Askenazi.

This is true. I was surprised to learn that but after studying the immigration history a bit, it made a bit more sense.



Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: ag on July 03, 2016, 08:57:54 pm
I'm a bit late, but is it not a little surprising that the towns on the edge of the Gaza strip went for the Zionist Union?

I would have thought they would be strongly Likud given the rocket attacks and, I believe, a demographic that is largely Sephardi Jews, who tend to be reliably conservative.
All those Zionist Union places near Gaza are mostly Ashkenazi Kibbutzim or Moshvim and not towns, all the urban places in the area went heavily for the right. Being next to Gaza has little effect, demographics are far more important.
Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)

Makes sense, considering why they, actually, left Argentina. But, yeah, they are Ashkenazi.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on July 04, 2016, 04:20:43 am

Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)

Most South American Jews are Ashkenazi.
Ethnically, they're not Ashkenazi in customs and such from what I saw. But this comment was basically a pun


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 05, 2016, 04:28:41 pm
Judea and Samaria (settlements):

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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on July 05, 2016, 04:53:05 pm
I'm very curious about the few settlements that voted left in the last few cycles. What is their stance on the peace process and on giving up land?


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: ag on July 05, 2016, 07:42:45 pm

Not exactly Ashkenazi, the Meretz Kibbutzim there are mostly Argentinians and other south americans  ;)

Most South American Jews are Ashkenazi.
Ethnically, they're not Ashkenazi in customs and such from what I saw. But this comment was basically a pun
Argentinian Jews, mostly, come from Ukraine and the like. They might drink mate and understand Ladino (well, I understand it as well :) - every Spanish speaker does), but they are generally as Ashkenazi as anybody. Different for Mexican Jews: here it is a mixture of different communities. But I am still to meet an Argentinian sefard :)


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: seb_pard on July 05, 2016, 08:04:46 pm
Most of the jew I know are Azhkenazi (one of by best friends is from czech descend, although he told one that he is part sephardic), but some people I know have last names that I suppose are sephardic (I don't really know). One funny case is Nicolas Massu, who is part jewish part palestinian so I count him as mizrahi.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on July 06, 2016, 03:24:08 am
I'm very curious about the few settlements that voted left in the last few cycles. What is their stance on the peace process and on giving up land?
Either kibbutzim deep inside who won't might leaving with a peace settlement and a nice reimbursement. Others are really on the border and expect to be in with every permenant settlement as part of land swapping


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 07, 2016, 02:00:34 pm
And now the south:
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Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 07, 2016, 02:23:37 pm
The urban south was such a massacre for the opposition, here is a list of all the localities with 10K+ votes:

Ashdod (113,203): 81.36-17.15
Beer Sheva (97,153): 76.6-21.77
Ashkelon (64,324): 81.13-17.13
Kiryat Gat (26,483): 84.83-13.98
Eilat (22,829): 65.34-30.8
Dimona (16,111): 81.15-17.25
Rahat (15,245): 2.26-95.08 (Bedouin city)
Netivot (14,603): 95.64-3.53
Ofakim (12,453): 89.87-8.86
Arad (12,297): 66.06-31.16
Sderot: (10,767): 86.63-12.09
Kiryat Malakhi (10,742): 89.78-9


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on July 07, 2016, 06:07:18 pm
The urban south was such a massacre for the opposition, here is a list of all the localities with 10K+ votes:

Ashdod (113,203): 81.36-17.15
Beer Sheva (97,153): 76.6-21.77
Ashkelon (64,324): 81.13-17.13
Kiryat Gat (26,483): 84.83-13.98
Eilat (22,829): 65.34-30.8
Dimona (16,111): 81.15-17.25
Rahat (15,245): 2.26-95.08 (Bedouin city)
Netivot (14,603): 95.64-3.53
Ofakim (12,453): 89.87-8.86
Arad (12,297): 66.06-31.16
Sderot: (10,767): 86.63-12.09
Kiryat Malakhi (10,742): 89.78-9

Where׳s the shock there? I expected YA to get more in Ashdod and Zara's to be tighter but most of those cities (bar for 2 they aren't even real cities) are both Sephardi and in a fast process of "religiousizing"


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: SunriseAroundTheWorld on July 07, 2016, 06:28:39 pm
I'm very curious about the few settlements that voted left in the last few cycles. What is their stance on the peace process and on giving up land?
Either kibbutzim deep inside who won't might leaving with a peace settlement and a nice reimbursement. Others are really on the border and expect to be in with every permenant settlement as part of land swapping

Ah, makes sense :) Thank you.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 08, 2016, 12:12:31 pm
The urban south was such a massacre for the opposition, here is a list of all the localities with 10K+ votes:

Ashdod (113,203): 81.36-17.15
Beer Sheva (97,153): 76.6-21.77
Ashkelon (64,324): 81.13-17.13
Kiryat Gat (26,483): 84.83-13.98
Eilat (22,829): 65.34-30.8
Dimona (16,111): 81.15-17.25
Rahat (15,245): 2.26-95.08 (Bedouin city)
Netivot (14,603): 95.64-3.53
Ofakim (12,453): 89.87-8.86
Arad (12,297): 66.06-31.16
Sderot: (10,767): 86.63-12.09
Kiryat Malakhi (10,742): 89.78-9

Where׳s the shock there? I expected YA to get more in Ashdod and Zara's to be tighter but most of those cities (bar for 2 they aren't even real cities) are both Sephardi and in a fast process of "religiousizing"

I didn't say it was shocking, but I did think it was interesting enough to merit a post. What was interesting to me wasn't who won but just how lopsided the margins were compared to left strongholds (outside the Arab cities. The left pretty easily won some wealthy cities in the centre, but even at the most extreme, Ramat Hasharon at 68-31, it still isn't the 80%+ you see in Ashdod or Askelon.


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: Hnv1 on July 09, 2016, 01:48:59 pm
The urban south was such a massacre for the opposition, here is a list of all the localities with 10K+ votes:

Ashdod (113,203): 81.36-17.15
Beer Sheva (97,153): 76.6-21.77
Ashkelon (64,324): 81.13-17.13
Kiryat Gat (26,483): 84.83-13.98
Eilat (22,829): 65.34-30.8
Dimona (16,111): 81.15-17.25
Rahat (15,245): 2.26-95.08 (Bedouin city)
Netivot (14,603): 95.64-3.53
Ofakim (12,453): 89.87-8.86
Arad (12,297): 66.06-31.16
Sderot: (10,767): 86.63-12.09
Kiryat Malakhi (10,742): 89.78-9

Where׳s the shock there? I expected YA to get more in Ashdod and Zara's to be tighter but most of those cities (bar for 2 they aren't even real cities) are both Sephardi and in a fast process of "religiousizing"

I didn't say it was shocking, but I did think it was interesting enough to merit a post. What was interesting to me wasn't who won but just how lopsided the margins were compared to left strongholds (outside the Arab cities. The left pretty easily won some wealthy cities in the centre, but even at the most extreme, Ramat Hasharon at 68-31, it still isn't the 80%+ you see in Ashdod or Askelon.
Well you need to take the Kulano vote out of the left-right equation there. For instance in Haifa a lot of Kulano voters are by no means right wing voters some were even pretty left. In the periphery Kulano voters were very much Likud voters who disliked Bibi.

It was the same with Kadima voters in the periphery and the affluent towns.

Also the left "strongholds" are less homogenous, most had estates built in the 50's to house Sephardis, and then had Russians come out in droves in the 90's. And to add to that you had the white flight of the 80's and 90's to affluent suburban "moshavim" like Even Yehuda that disturbed the demographic balance in those cities


Title: Re: Israeli election and demographic maps
Post by: danny on July 11, 2016, 07:17:17 pm
Final map in this series, the North:

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