Talk Elections

Who on here posts there?

One distinctive thing about it is the admin (username: Ian the Admin). Pretty much the only thing he does is tell posters that they have received a banning (permanent or otherwise), while often insulting them in the process.

AH.com, all day every day.  Literally.

What's funny is how much more lenient this board is.  Half the people here would be banned in a flash on AH.com.

I used to post religiously, until I actually read Ian's post history. That man deserves to be in jail.

I don't know why everyone seems to hate it. Anyway, yeah I'm there, got two timelines going on there.

I'm a member and, indeed, found this place via there. I generally avoid the off-topic sections since they're full of unfunny in-jokes, people who post on TV Tropes and such, but otherwise it's not a bad site.

They have an idiotic time limit on how long you can edit posts, which irritates me greatly.

@Teddy - what kind of stuff are you talking about? Not disagreeing, I just can't remember reading any of the admin's posts.

Are you kidding me? The site is like, 80% teenage omega males and basically anyone remotely interesting (non-"liberal" or not) either got banned or left. I was on the old board and let me tell you: the decline since 2004 on is really, really sad to watch. I don't think it's that much to ask that people that comment about history actually have somewhat of a background in that but...

Well, I agree that the site membership is mosty annoying teenagers, hence me more or less entirely avoiding the "Chat" sections.

Just to clarify, it's my characterisation of AH.com as "not bad" you're disagreeing with?

Yes. It's not like the chat cancer hasn't spread to the rest of the site by this point.

Yeah, jmfcst, Sam, Phil, BRTD, opebo and maybe even Al and Joe would have been banned pretty quickly over there.

It's actually been a lot nicer since those "alpha" tards got banned.  All they used to do was troll around and make fun of anyone who wasn't like them.


What?

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/search.php?searchid=8307195

jmfcst, Sam, BRTD, and opebo would be banned quickly.  Al seems like he'd take a little longer.  Not sure if Joe or Phil would be banned.

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/search.php?searchid=8307811

Remember two things.
The Admin is the chief, the leader, and leaders need to, and always do, act at their best behaviour in front of their flock.

Secondly, people never say in public the worst of what they think about and imagine.


If this guy is willing to say these things, with his title, then he must be truly evil.

"Sorry-no match."

Are you talking about the abortion thing?  Because your link doesn't link anywhere.

I post there from to time, but by and large I largely lurk around reading timelines. 

I don't have an account, but I read the timelines there occasionally. A lot of them are basically bad fan-fiction, but there are occasionally really good ones, like one about Walt Disney becoming president in the 1950s and there was also a Jerry Brown elected president in 1976(?) timeline that was solid.

Example of things that get you banned.
And the person who was banned for posting a picture of Andy Bernard from The Office.



I've seen "gangsters", even some of them on video beating people up. I've met people, in person, who have told me they want me to DIE, literally, and that they've killed before. I believed that person. I know politicians who want to ban BEING gay. Here at this forum, the actions of some moderators have given me nightmares of being shot in the back of the head.

But none of those people actually scare me.

This man scares me.
He actually frightens me.

He causes me be become afraid, just from READING his posts.

I am not a catholic because from what I've been told via sermon --- God Loves you and you must accept that and questioning that means that you will likely go to HELL forever and ever.

Likely.

If I ever questioned the admin publicly on this site, I'd be banned. I will likely be banned for this post, over here.

I've threatened to do various things if I was ever moderator, or admin, etc. I would be a hardass. harder than any moderator who's ever existed here. Harder than moderators and admins that have banned me from websites. Harder than anyone.

But I am human, and I accept that I can be, very very rarely, but I can be wrong.

I do not get the impression from this person.

"Ian" is evil. Truly truly evil. He is a bad person. And yet this is his public face. How evil is he in person? This man belongs in jail.

Permabanned, for saying that Powell would have made a great PM... don't get me wrong, Powell was a racist idiot, but the fact that you can't even SAY that. I know the Internet is private property, but can't even SAY that? Imagine someone telling you that you can't say that on your front lawn and if you say it you GET BANNED FOREVER AND EVER.

Not only does he scare me, he pisses me off. He is the only person, the ONLY person, who I would ever assault if I met in person, and the only person that I'd be happy to go to jail over assaulting.

wat

Look, I'm not going to pretend to know anything about this "Ian" guy, or about this British Powell dude, bit you're advocating arresting someone for their beliefs. Just the way you're referring to him is kinda freakin' me out. Not sure who's actually freakin' me out, you or "Ian", but this is weird territory.

what the christ

He would do the same if he could. And I never said he should be arrested, just that he should be in jail.

AH.com is the only website I ever loved but stopped posting on without either throwing a fit or being banned.

Go to the website and click his profile and look at his posts, especially what he bans people for. This goes back for years.

He literally banned someone for saying "I disagree". That is unacceptable. Period. and I'm done with this thread.

this thread just got weird...

You're scaring me, Teddy.

But Susano and AHP both managed to be banned, yet Krall is still there? How does that work??

It's only a matter of time until Thande is banned...

I stop over there from time to time but not to post. There are some good timelines but overall I'm not really into it.

I do. Though I in many ways prefer the atmosphere here, and plus I can indulge myself with domestic politics, something I can't really do there.

I have an account there as well, also under Blackwater_NiK. I enjoy many of the timelines, though as of late I'm a lurker who turns up to post in the 2012 thread once in a while.

I post from time to time, though much like here I'm constantly afraid of making a fool out of myself, so I only post if I feel I add to the conversation. As a result I have like 20 posts. :)

The admin does seem a tad abrasive, but oh well. His playpin, his rules. He reminds me  alot of the guy who runs little green footballs. Now if you want crazy...

This is amusing; a list of all banned posters, and in some cases, they have their own page with the reasons for their banning:

http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/hall_of_infamy

And this article is relevent to this forum:

http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/straha

Yes, Straha was a blight upon both communities.  Though it was before my time.

Why what'd thande do?

I think Fear Loathing and Gumbo on the Trail of '72 is amazing.

Nothing. It is just a joke on how easy it is to get banned there. He was never banned.

By the way, have any of you all seen the 2010 election thread? I wish we could do something similar on this board.

http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/hashemite (http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/offtopic/hashemite)

Is this the same Hashemite?

I'm a member. Only read people's stuff though. I think I only have 2 posts. haha

I have several hundred posts there.

Yeah, it's me. I was admittedly pretty much a blowhard and a retard back then (who wrote stupid althists, worse even that gporter), as well as a naive troll, so part of it was my own fault and sockpuppeting for so long afterwards was a petty immature thing to do. But it was like in 05-06 or something, when I was young and supported Stephen Harper. But I do recall my original banning had something to do with a political opinion I had voiced which Ian the Fascist didn't appreciate.

Still, AH.com is pretty much a site filled with arrogant stuck-up people who are far less intelligent than they think and who put themselves and their little forum on a pedestal as some Mensa. I go back from time to time to steal the blank maps which they do pretty well, but I haven't read their timelines in years.

Those stuck-up blowhards are mostly gone now.

Now it's full of bronies.

You should fix your post, broski.

The Pony War there has been pretty amusing.

I post there quite a lot (with this username). It's ok, and as has been said some of the TLs and stories are pretty awesome.

The halfway-decent members eventually migrate here.

As a member of both forums, this little "rage at AH.com" thread makes me laugh so hard my jaw hurts. I mean seriously, either side accusing the other of being "stuck-up" is absolutely hilarious. I would advise everybody involved to get over themselves. Ian's forum is Ian's forum, and though he's obviously biased and a bit tyrannical, he has good reasons to be so (would you want gigantic flame wars between pedantic history nerds over folks like Enoch Powell?). Plus, he's got about a decade of experience in being an Admin, so honestly I trust his judgement in most AH.com matters.

Still, I can see where the AH exiles are coming from. Ian does tend to rule with more of a fist of iron then most mods, and he is a bit paranoid in trying to prevent flame wars. Additionally, he tends to have more animosity towards religious folks (especially conservative religious folks) then the other members.

So I'd say the truth is somewhere in the middle (cue South Park), though I'm a bit more biased towards Ian's point of view, having witnessed a lot of AH.cpm flame wars that could have been prevented by an early ban or kick by a mod.

Again, I think both the exiles/Atlas regulars and the AH.commers are taking this way too seriously.

Side note, when are you going to update An Era of Limits, oakvale? It's one of the best Post-1900 timelines on the site!

This was your last post on AH.com:


But sure, your banning was political oppression.

I never actually said that, because, if you had bothered being honest and quoting the rest of that post, I basically said that I deserved the ban(s) because I was a retarded douche back then. That being said, I had said something (stupid, admittedly) about supporting Israel in the 2006 invasion of Lebanon which Ian didn't like, and got pissed over it - I was like 14 back then or something and I was a blowhard - thus I got banned after throwing a little fit. The sockpuppet accounts were something a typical 14 year old banned from an internet forum would do. 

Thanks for being intellectually honest next time.

No, you don't get to qualify your legitimate banning with "I also said something political Ian didn't like.". You were banned for using personal insults and trolling. Period, end of statement.

Thanks for not using weasel words next time.

At this rate, probably sometime in 2016. :(

I had most of a large-ish update written a month or so ago, but suffered a crisis of confidence and declined to post it. I recommend bumping the thread - that, usually, eventually, guilts me into putting something up. Sorry!

I have been In many forums but AH.com Is one of the most opressive forums I have ever seen.

Producing statistics on Immigration? Scientific Racism - you are banned!

Beeing of the opinion that Communist crimes equal Nazi crimes? Nazi Relativizer - your are banned!

Beeing against left wing? You are a right wing extremist- you are banned!

AH. com is the perfect example of a left wing communist censorship site that banns all people
with some brains that are against the party line.

They are not too keen on bad grammar either.

Aurora Advanced Healthcare ?

Why would I post at this site ?

You do realize that some of the most popular and well-regarded members on AH.com are the libertarian crowd, right? And most of them haven't been banned. In fact, even as a leftist member myself, I would say that the libertarians and vaguely center-right folks are better political timeline writers than the leftist crowd are.

Also, I've only seen people get banned for posting immigration statistics when the source is something like Stormfront. Let me guess, you were a AH.com member and tried to use a white nationalist source for immigration statistics? Not saying you are one, but if you used those specific sources for statistics, that's basically a bannable offense.

The Communist thing is patently untrue; no one has been banned for saying that the Soviets were worse than the Nazis. The only time I've seen that that subject has led to bannings is when person attacks and Nazi apologism gets involved.

To insist that AH.com is a leftist communist censorship site is laughable; it might have a clear leftist bias, but it's not some tyrannical dictatorship (though as I said before, Ian errs on the side of paranoia sometimes).

The poster "Caliboy1990" annoys me. Any DBWI thread regarding a Republican presidency, he ruins by coming in and says "What are you retards talking about"? and goes on to make up a whole bunch of problems that contradict all the previous posts.

Forgive the "necro" that would get me banned on AH.com, but I just read some of the political comments on that forum, and I appreciate this forum more than ever now. What a bunch of pretentious pricks. Hashemite was 100% right about them thinking it is a Mensa forum or something.

Just saw this and LOL

Here's Ian the admin's latest ban


*Sigh*

I post there, but I try to simply stick with TLs that I have an interest in as well as working on my own, currently The Birth, Life and Rise of the SDP.

I post there (under the name Vosem), not particularly much, though I lurk a lot. There's a couple of timelines there I follow religiously -- Zhirinovsky's Empire is amazing; Fear, Loathing, and Gumbo '72 is amazing; Look to the West, in spite of its absolute doorstopper status (I really have no idea how you could start reading it), is also amazing and really great to get into. But, yeah, Ian tends to be of the belief that if you disagree you shouldn't be allowed to post. Which, predictably, results in a lot of people who might've written great Alt-Hist being scared away from the forum. But the genre will live on, sh**t happens. (I would really recommend you all go read one of the first two -- like, right now).

I love both timelines. Rumsfeldia/Gumbo is by far the best on that forum, and Zhirinovsky's Empire is a close second. I can't wait for Drew's next update on Rumsfeldia (which should be coming up soon).

I'm active there too, as fellow AHers here know. But not nearly as much as I used to be and now I mostly lurk.

I got temporarily banned over there because this German guy was posting about how he doesn't like America because of its history of starting unjustified wars, and I responded "Is it fair for a German to say this?"

I think that would earn you a place in the Sulphur Mine here :P

I used to be rather active, but now the place has literally become a bunch of multi-colored lists, circle-jerk interactive timelines, and political chat with no dose of reality (WHEN THE REVOLUTION COMES, WE WILL ELECT ALISON GRIMES PRESIDENT!!!!111one1!) or substance. It's like RevLeft but even more functionally inept.

The main reason I refuse to post there any more is because of the time limit (IIRC it's a month or so) on post editing, which is absurd and stifling - it's an unbelievably wrongheaded policy.

Quite. Finding out you made errors several months later--or even more than a month later--is apparently an unforgivable offense and you're stuck with the crap you originally put up.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't go as far as to say "I refuse to post there" since I still do occasionally but it's a major grievance.

Careful, if Ian finds out you posted this, you will be banned.....