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Title: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Phony Moderate on January 15, 2012, 08:14:48 AM
(With marks out of ten.)

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 6/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 8/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 5/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 4/10
Neville Chamberlain - 5/10
Winston Churchill - 5/10
Clement Attlee - 8/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 5/10
James Callaghan - 6/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0 2/10
John Major - 5/10
Tony Blair - 5/10
Gordon Brown - 5/10
David Cameron  - 4/10





Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 15, 2012, 08:17:47 AM

Huh?

I though Marquess of Salisbury was PM at the time.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: minionofmidas on January 15, 2012, 08:25:14 AM
That is correct. Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, KG, GCVO, PC.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: minionofmidas on January 15, 2012, 08:28:57 AM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 2/10
Arthur Balfour - 0/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 0/10
Herbert Asquith - 1/10
David Lloyd George - 5/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 0/10
Stanley Baldwin - 0/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 0/10
Neville Chamberlain - 0/10
Winston Churchill - 1/10
Clement Attlee - 7/10
Anthony Eden - 0/10
Harold Macmillan - 2/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 0/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 1/10
James Callaghan - 3/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0/10
John Major - 1/10
Tony Blair - 3/10
Gordon Brown - 2/10
David Cameron  - 0/10

According to my mood of the moment.
(As disgusting a piece of filth as Blair otherwise is, devolution will always count in his favor.)


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 15, 2012, 10:31:43 AM
Mr National Efficiency was never known as Herbert, but by his initials (H.H.) in public and as Henry in private; 'Herbert Asquith' is a mistaken contemporary informality. For what little that's worth. He was an utter bastard, of course, one of the worst people to hold that particular office in the 20th century.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: You kip if you want to... on January 15, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 4/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 6/10
Neville Chamberlain - 1/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 9.5/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 6.5/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 9/10
Edward Heath - 4/10
James Callaghan - 5/10
Margaret Thatcher - 2/10
John Major - 3/10
Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 8/10
David Cameron  - 2/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: J. J. on January 15, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 10/10  (an opinion shared with Attlee, interestingly)
Arthur Balfour - 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 8/10
Herbert Asquith - 9/10
David Lloyd George - 3/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 2/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 7/10
Neville Chamberlain - 1/10
Winston Churchill - 9/10 (10/10 in his first premiership)
Clement Attlee - 5/10
Anthony Eden - 4/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 6/10
James Callaghan - 2/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 6/10



Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on January 15, 2012, 12:04:36 PM
Only doing ones I know about.

Neville Chamberlain - 0/10
Winston Churchill - 10/10
Clement Attlee - 4/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - ???????
Harold Wilson - 2/10
Edward Heath - ????????
James Callaghan - ???????
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 1/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: minionofmidas on January 15, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
Mr National Efficiency was never known as Herbert, but by his initials (H.H.) in public and as Henry in private; 'Herbert Asquith' is a mistaken contemporary informality.
Or as wikipedia puts it, "in his younger days he was called Herbert within the family, but his second wife called him Henry. His biographer Stephen Koss entitled the first chapter of his biography "From Herbert to Henry", referring to upward social mobility and his abandonment of his Yorkshire Nonconformist roots with his second marriage. (this, presumably, is what makes him an utter bastard, my note.) However, in public, he was invariably referred to only as H. H. Asquith. "There have been few major national figures whose Christian names were less well known to the public," writes his biographer Roy Jenkins. His opponents gave him the nickname "Squiff" or "Squiffy", a derogatory reference to his fondness for drink."


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: afleitch on January 15, 2012, 12:49:13 PM
I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 6/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 5/10
Stanley Baldwin - 6/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 4/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 5/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 9/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 6/10
Harold Wilson - 6/10
Edward Heath - 6/10
James Callaghan - 5/10
Margaret Thatcher - 8/10
John Major - 7/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10
David Cameron  - Can't rate right now, but between 7 and 8


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Phony Moderate on January 15, 2012, 01:21:56 PM
I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

You talkin' to me?



Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: You kip if you want to... on January 15, 2012, 02:12:51 PM
I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

You talkin' to me?



In what world does Clem warrant a 5, while Maggs and Dave warrant 8s? ;)


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: minionofmidas on January 15, 2012, 03:53:17 PM
In what world does Clement Attlee score lower than Neville Chamberlain?
Certainly not in any modern-day, democratic, Conservative's, one would think. :P


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Oakvale on January 15, 2012, 04:05:37 PM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 3/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 7/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 4/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 4/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 3/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 4/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 3/10
John Major - 4/10
Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10
David Cameron  - 6/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: RogueBeaver on January 15, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil: 10/10
Arthur Balfour: 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman: 5/10
H.H. Asquith: 1/10
David Lloyd George: 5/10
Andrew Bonar Law: 7/10
Stanley Baldwin: 5/10
Ramsay MacDonald: 3/10
Neville Chamberlain: 1/10
Winston Churchill: 9/10
Clement Attlee: 3/10
Anthony Eden: 2/10
Harold Macmillan: 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home: 4/10
Harold Wilson: 3/10
Edward Heath: 3/10
James Callaghan: 3/10
Margaret Thatcher: 9/10
John Major: 6/10
Tony Blair: 6/10
Gordon Brown: 4/10
David Cameron: 6/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 15, 2012, 06:11:50 PM
His biographer Stephen Koss entitled the first chapter of his biography "From Herbert to Henry", referring to upward social mobility and his abandonment of his Yorkshire Nonconformist roots with his second marriage. (this, presumably, is what makes him an utter bastard, my note.)

That's what sealed the deal anyway. A year earlier he ordered the murder of striking miners at Featherstone.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Gustaf on January 15, 2012, 06:22:31 PM
Some of these are a bit arbitrary, because it's been a while since I brushed up my British political history.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 3/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 4/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 3/10
Stanley Baldwin - 3/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 7/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 9/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 5/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 4/10
Harold Wilson - 6/10
Edward Heath - 2/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 8/10
John Major - 5/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 5/10
David Cameron  - 7/10




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Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on January 15, 2012, 11:05:51 PM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 0/10 - on the grounds I dont know who this is, or, anything they did. - this applies to a few people, IE anyone with a 0.
Arthur Balfour - 0/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 0/10
Herbert Asquith - 0/10
David Lloyd George - 9/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 0/10
Stanley Baldwin - 0/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 6/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 8/10
Clement Attlee - 8/10
Anthony Eden - 0/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 5/10
James Callaghan - 7/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 7/10
Tony Blair - 10/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 8/10 (so far)


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on January 15, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
Totals.


Cecil   41
Balfour   26
Cam-Ban   38
Asquith   29
George   46
Law   26
Baldwin   25
MacDonald   34
Chamber   19
Churchill   63
Attlee   58
Eden   22
Macmillan   58
D-Home   28
Wilson   55
Heath   32
Callaghan   34
Thatcher   56
Major   47
Blair   60
Brown   33
Cameron   45.5



TOP

George   46
Churchill   63
Attlee   58
Macmillan   58
Wilson   55
Thatcher   56
Major   47
Blair   60
Cameron   45.5


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Teddy (IDS Legislator) on January 15, 2012, 11:38:51 PM
Obamaisdabest
Bias: Anti-Modern

Lewis
Bias: Anti-Conservative

Change08
Bias: Anti-Conservative

J.J.
Bias: none detected

Klecly
Bias: Anti-Socialist

afleitch
Bias: none detected

Oakvale
Bias: Anti Fiscal-Libertarian

RogueBeaver
Bias: Anti-Socialist

Gustaf
Bias: none detected

Teddy
Bias: none detected


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 16, 2012, 12:57:46 AM
Attlee: Very good
Wilson: Good
Others: Varying shades of bad


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: k-onmmunist on January 20, 2012, 08:23:17 AM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 4/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 5/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 6/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 2/10
Stanley Baldwin - 3/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 2/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 0/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0/10
John Major - 2/10
Tony Blair - 2/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10
David Cameron  - 0/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: Supersonic on May 23, 2012, 06:24:49 PM
An honest attempt to be non-hackish. :P

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - Who?
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 6.5/10
David Lloyd George - 8.5/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 5/10
Stanley Baldwin - 7/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 3/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 9.5/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 8/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 7.5/10
Edward Heath - 3/10
James Callaghan - 3/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6.5/10
Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 7/10


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: The Mikado on May 25, 2012, 01:58:58 PM
Attlee: 9/10
Everyone else: not as good as Attlee.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: k-onmmunist on May 25, 2012, 02:02:12 PM
Attlee: 9/10
Everyone else: not as good as Attlee.

This, pretty much.


Title: Re: Rate the British PMs since 1900
Post by: freefair on May 27, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 9/10
Herbert Asquith - 7/10
David Lloyd George - 8/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 5/10
Stanley Baldwin - 8/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 4/10
Neville Chamberlain - 4/10
Winston Churchill - 9/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 6/10
Harold Wilson - 5/10
Edward Heath - 5/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 7/10
Tony Blair - 6/10
Gordon Brown -  5/10
David Cameron  - 6/10