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Election Archive => 2012 Elections => Topic started by: Phony Moderate on February 03, 2012, 05:18:59 AM



Title: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 03, 2012, 05:18:59 AM
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Members of the nationalist American Third Position Party (A3P), whose website was defaced by Anonymous, organised Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul's meetings and campaigns, according emails hacked by the collective.

Chairman of the British National Party (BNP) Nick Griffin also took part in meetings with Paul and other representatives of A3P.

"According to these messages, Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors," read a statement from Anonymous.

It also claims that Paul received financial support from other white power groups, such as the online hate forum Stormfront, founded by Don Black, a white supremacist. There is even a photograph of Paul with Black, a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a current member of the American Nazi Party. Paul allegedly refused to return donations from Black and Stormfront. Black told The New York Times that Paul's newsletter had inspired him to become a supporter.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/291000/20120201/anonymous-ron-paul-neo-nazi-bnp-a3p.htm


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 03, 2012, 03:21:55 PM
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/290374/20120131/ron-paul-anonymous-neo-nazi-opblitzkrieg-antisec.htm

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Anonymous also claims that the organisation has links with Republican candidate Ron Paul. "We found a disturbingly high number of members who are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul,"


That's ironic.

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Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on February 03, 2012, 03:24:10 PM
None of this is surprising.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 03, 2012, 04:20:03 PM
BIG TENT REPUBLICANISM


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 03, 2012, 06:55:32 PM
Last I heard, Nazis were allowed to vote. I guess people are no longer entitled to their beliefs, no matter how hatefull. I do not give a flying **** if any of these people vote for Paul; in fact, I hope they do, because its more votes for him, even if it is from a controversial group.

Doesn't Obama get support from controversial people. Like Bill Ayers? Van Jones? Communist and Socialist support him. Big deal, it does not discredit him.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on February 03, 2012, 06:57:14 PM
Van Jones was a fine politician whose career was cut short by smears straight from the Goebbels playbook.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 03, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0EqnoaPNLI


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 03, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Van Jones was a fine politician whose career was cut short by smears straight from the Goebbels playbook.
Who is to say Nick Griffin is any worse? I hate both of them. But they can vote for whoever they want. Bill Ayers was a terrorist. Dom Black is a Nazi. Both awful things, but, who cares? They can support whoever they want. Privately, or publicly, it does not matter. At the end of the day, these guys will vote for their candidate, whoever it is.

Edit: In the article, a guy named Bill Young is interviewed. Tell me: Who do you trust, a former neo Nazi who got pissed at the group for something (likely involving a position of power), or Congressman Paul.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 03, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
Last I heard, Nazis were allowed to vote. I guess people are no longer entitled to their beliefs, no matter how hatefull. I do not give a flying **** if any of these people vote for Paul; in fact, I hope they do, because its more votes for him, even if it is from a controversial group.

Doesn't Obama get support from controversial people. Like Bill Ayers? Van Jones? Communist and Socialist support him. Big deal, it does not discredit him.

Stop posting for God's sake. And if you won't do it for Him, then do it for your future self.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 03, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
Last I heard, Nazis were allowed to vote. I guess people are no longer entitled to their beliefs, no matter how hatefull. I do not give a flying **** if any of these people vote for Paul; in fact, I hope they do, because its more votes for him, even if it is from a controversial group.

Doesn't Obama get support from controversial people. Like Bill Ayers? Van Jones? Communist and Socialist support him. Big deal, it does not discredit him.

Stop posting for God's sake. And if you won't do it for Him, then do it for your future self.
In hindsight, I’m incredibly embarrassed by that post.....none the less, the feeling holds up.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Oakvale on February 05, 2012, 01:52:41 PM
This may be the first ever time the internet has attacked Paul, of course. ;)

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Chairman of the British National Party (BNP) Nick Griffin also took part in meetings with Paul and other representatives of A3P.

*banging head off desk*

Seriously? Someone who wants to be President of the United States is meeting with Nick Griffin?

Then again, Paulism is (arguably) the closest thing the United States has to the European far-right, so I guess that makes sense.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: All Along The Watchtower on February 05, 2012, 02:04:37 PM
The Paulite obsession with "The Fed" and "bankers" is suspicious enough.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: rob in cal on February 05, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
This makes Paul's recent Nevada comments  more ironic.  He basically came out in favor of continual immigration of non-European people (by saying he supported immigration in general) and showed some sympathy for Mexican immigrants.  A basic attribute of all of the  European far right-wing and even much of the center right-wing is opposition to mass immigration of foreigners.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: redcommander on February 05, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
I think his links to racist groups has been known for quite some time.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: argentarius on February 05, 2012, 09:57:07 PM
In other news, bears sh**t in the woods  and the pope is catholic. Do we seriously need so many attack threads on Paul when all attacks on Newt are in the one thread?


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: TheGlobalizer on February 06, 2012, 12:39:59 PM
This makes Paul's recent Nevada comments  more ironic.  He basically came out in favor of continual immigration of non-European people (by saying he supported immigration in general) and showed some sympathy for Mexican immigrants.  A basic attribute of all of the  European far right-wing and even much of the center right-wing is opposition to mass immigration of foreigners.

It just clarifies that the points of synergy are not based on immigration/racial issues, but economic ones.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: sparkey on February 06, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
Tom Knapp has a relatively objective analysis (http://knappster.blogspot.com/2012/02/initial-thoughts-on-anonymouss-hack-of.html) that downplays the link somewhat.


Title: Re: Ron Paul has recent links to the KKK, BNP, Stormfront and other racist groups
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 06, 2012, 03:29:46 PM
Tom Knapp has a relatively objective analysis (http://knappster.blogspot.com/2012/02/initial-thoughts-on-anonymouss-hack-of.html) that downplays the link somewhat.
Interesting read; I find Anonymous's willingness to put private citizens home adresses and phone numbers online to be distrurbing, even if they are neo Nazis.