Talk Elections

As one of Atlasia's most contraversial individuals I'd like to open this office for the purpose of dialogue and colilition building for a better Atlasia. I will be announcing my future direction regarding regional and national politics around 7 pm Indiana time.

The grounds of the former Samuel P. Kyger Elementry School, Frankfort, IN

Thank you friends, family, and fellow Mideast citizens

In light of recent devlopments I felt bereft of a party that felt closest to my personal values because I had many principled agreements with both the Whigs and the PLP. As many know I'm of a rather conservative persuasion with regards to social matters. With careful discussion seeking advice from several Atlasians I have chosen the Whigs due to their closeness to my social views. To my friends in the PLP, this doesn't mean I disagree with you on economic issues and your belief in the free market. In fact I support them.

Many here on the left think we are extreme in our social views. I must politely and passionately disagree. I believe that childern are best raised in a home with a mom and a dad. That is what historically works. It's the social progressives that seek to destroy the family as we know it. Needless to say I must call my brothers and sisters of faith to look at ourselves to fight to preserve our families first. The citizens of he Mideast are a good people with a strong conservative tradition. We aided our own Tmfth in his succsessful run for President. We have men like ZuWo and TJ in Cleveland speaking out for our cause. As former President Kennedy once said , "The Chinese use two brush strokes to write the word 'crisis.' One brush stroke stands for danger; the other for opportunity. In a crisis, be aware of the danger - but recognize the opportunity." in order for the conservative causes of lower taxes, less spending, free market principals, and personal responsibility it's time to lend my voice and run for the Mideast Assembly.

Thank you and may God save Atlasia

Very well said, JCL :) I may not agree with you on social issues, but I can respect your views and your right to believe such.

Muahahahaha!

 We have many agreements despite our differences with regards to many social issues.

Best of luck to you! Good announcement spot. :)

I'm very glad to see that you will be a candidate for the Assembly. We really need new active people. :)

Hi.

Welcome

Courtyard across the street from Bartle Hall, Kansas City, MO

Missourians and fellow Atlasians,

Thank you for allowing me the opprotunity to return to a community that has had a considerable spiritual influance on my own worldview. Many come from here and in other points of our region to petition our government in Nyman with regard of the protection of the rights of the baby in the womb. Do they not realize what our founding documents say about the right to life? It was given to us by our creator and it is inalienable. That mean not even the government can alter that.

I've also recently been hearing of some of the reforms some want to institute to make our government more efficient. I would agree with the voices that want to give the VP tie breaking powers in our senate and would encourage MPolitico, our Regional Senator, to support these reforms. We would encourage him also to start advocating pro-life legislation on the national stage. As well as religious exemptions with regards to the adoption processes that weigh down good families for the sake of political correctness.

The tax system could use some reworking as well. How about taxing only on sales and not income. We must root out all the hidden taxes that hinder the individual from giving to their communities of faith. That especially means the inflation tax that hurts the working class from possibly moving up. I encourage the Polnut administration to allow the Keystone XL pipeline be built and in a way that would minimize environmental side effects by letting the market decide how to best handle this matter. These are hard times and we are Taxed Enough Already.  To those who are asking, the Tea Party is alive and well in Atlasia.

Thank you and may God save Atlasia and the Mideast Region

Hey. Welcome to my office. Anything you want to know?

From the office of JCL

It has recently come to my attention there is a new bill in the Northeast that would give powers to the governor that should specifically stay with their assembly. I encourage all citizens to speak with their elected reps and ask them to oppose this HAEV bill with vigorous passion

Regional Elections

For all who have voted, thank you. If you haven't voted yet please do so. It's the citizens that will make the Mideast a great region.

To the citizens of the Mideast

I thank you for this past season to represent you in our assembly. We are in the mist of great potential to enhance both safety and liberty. Indeed there is still more to be done. The causes of lower taxes, the protection of our preborn citizens, and reforms to improve our game.

With ZuWo looking at becoming governor it is important to bring in someone with both conservative credentials and an eye to get things done. That is why when I voted in the last election I wrote in A-Bob. His experience could be a potential asset to mentor younger assemblymen like myself to be an active force for the cause of good governance. That good governance I speak of will always one that seeks to constrain that governance to be limited and to be a defender of liberty. As Ronald Reagan once said

"You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down—[up] man's old—old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course."

I believe in that vision and there are reforms both at the regional level and nationally that fundamentally need to be made for that liberty to flourish.

Also I'd like to say to the folks out there who desire gold and silver to be restored as legal tender, I am a friend. I raise my voice with yours for a sound monetary system.

For the communities of faith, thank you for your support. Faith and freedom must stay as friends with an indisoluable bound.

For the one who seeks criminal gain, if I'm returned to the assembly you will not like what I'm going to propose. Especially traffickers of individuals for the sex slave trade.

From Kansas City to Baltimore and all over the Mideast we are a hard working people who want to live quiet and peaceful lives. Government tends to embridle the deepest of our passions regardless of idealology. Regardless of the outcome of the elections lets strive for a better Atlasia

God Bless Atlasia

It's Dave.

Allah.

Xenu.

Dwight York (aka Malachi Z. York, Issa Al Haadi Al Mahdi, et alii).

I leave it as that out of respect of you all.

Regarding Persia and Nuclear Weapons Testing

I and many fellow Atlasians are disturbed at the recent developments in the Islamic Republic of Persia. To let the power of the atom in the hands of a deranged government beholden to a group wanting to bring the Islamic messiah to power could have eternal ramifications on the whole of society in the free and oppressed worlds. I, as an assemblyman, ask the Polnut administration to aid the Christian and other rebels of political or religious conscience. We all know the current regime is illegitimate because the 2009 elections were stolen by the man in power when it was beyond obvious to the world that the reformers won the election. Please do so in a peaceful way before our fighting men and women are forced to act.

Blessed are the peacemakers

God Save Atlasia

We are the nameless, we are the faceless, we forgive yet we never forget, enemies of freedom fear us friends of freedom respect us, the brave join us, expect us

Since the time of Zoroaster (around 1000 BC) the people of Iran have called their nation "Aryānām" (Iran in the proto-Iranian language), eventually shifting to Iran during the Sassanid dynasty (226 AD). On March 21, 1935, Reza Shah Pahlavi issued a decree asking foreign nations to use the term "Iran" in formal writings. The current norm is that "Iran" is to be used in political writings, and "Persia" in historical-cultural areas. So in sum, they call themselves Iran and get significantly annoyed when someone calls them the "Islamic Republic of Persia". Just an FYI from your SoEA.

And what us your opinion of the Franks Republic? Not to mention the Ottoman Republic.

What is your opinion of the War on Drugs in general? Do you support legalized marijuana?

I believe that the regions are the best place to dictate policy on any social domestic issue. Is it the duty of the government as a whole to allocate finances to aid drug users by buying their syringes while we are 16 trillion in debt?

As for marijuana, we need to handle it in a way that protects kids from all the drama that ensues because I it.

I will be live on Michael Savage at the shows opening tonite.

Case Arena, Frankfort, IN 

Thank you all for coming.

Since my recent defeat in the Assembly elections (crowd boos) I've been getting all sorts of tweets, Facebook messages and whatnot with regards to my next move in the cause of a smaller, more accountable government of, for and by the people. 

What do we as a republic do when we are multi-trillions of dollars in the red and our national security has potentially been impacted drastically by an Iran that has joined the nuclear club. While the people of Atlasia harbor no ill will to the people of Iran it's your government that seeks to destroy one of our most resolute of friends in the nation of Israel. So in the name of all that is good, remove the enemies of your own journey to liberty in a peaceful way that honors the rule of law. 

What do we do when many in the vested "old guard" of the  Atlasian body politik choose to neglect the duties of their station in places of power and not mentor the up and coming individuals? We give the regional assemblies more power to hold them accountable for their actions or inaction. I will encourage the assemblies to enact such reforms. 

In a multi party political system we often see one side always being forced to bend closer to the whims of the other, I don't believe that to be the proper course. We can all work for a better Atlasia. When the Republicans retook the House and Senate back in 1994, President Clinton realized he needed to appear to be above the ideological fracas of legislative matters. It's why we have welfare reform. 

As a conservative I will fight for my principals and I would expect the left an the center to do the same. But when it's all said and done we are all Atlasians regardless. 

We can come together to extend the hand of liberty to all who seek to call Atlasia home. 
That is why I am announcing candidacy for the Atlasian Senate from the Mideast. 

Thank you and may we seek a better way for all Atlasians

First off, good luck JCL :)

Second of all, do you feel I have neglected my duties in any way, especially regarding Iran and Israel?  Or that I have been excessively partisan, or have at all impaired the Senate?  And finally, have I hampered up and coming Atlasians?

This will be the first competitive regional Senate election here since I have joined the game. That's great. Good luck to you!

I have a concrete question: The Senate is currently debating a budget proposal from the President. As Senator, what would you do to achieve a balanced budget?

I actually think you are one of the few of the old guard here that have been trying to do a good job in their place in the game. Tmfth, A-Bob, NC Yankee and Badger are others whom I've admired for their service and would try to emulate. Though with my own twist.

With regards to Iran and Israel, I share the concern over Iran having nuclear weapons but I think we need more options on the table. Sanctions hurt the people much more than Amideimijad or the Mullahs. We know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election was stolen. The reformers won and were robbed of their rightful place in power by a devious evil man.

What other options specifically are you proposing?

First remove the sanctions. Then we send a national delegation to ask for national forgiveness concerning our actions regarding Iran in 1953. The best way to destroy an enemy is turn him
into a friend. That is the most ideal thing to do yet we all know we can't always do that. We should prepare for any contingency. If Iran does something stupid however we should be prepared and do so without imperiling the liberties of our citizens.

JCL Saturday Events:

Tea Party event in South Bend, IN 9am
Bound4Life Prayer Rally, Fort Wayne IN 11:30 am
Western Days Festival, Russiaville IN 1:30 pm singing in karaoke contest

Campaign takes Sunday off so team can be with family and attend religious services

Monday 6/4
Interview with Glenn Beck 9 am
More details in the works

6/4 Campaign events

Stops all over Ohio at various Tea Party and Pro-Life rallies ending at Bethel Church(one of the Bethel in Redding California daughter churches) in Cleveland.

6/5 Campaign events (as of 2:00pm Indiana time)

Coast to Coast Am interview
Stops in Wheeling, Morgantown, Charlston, Harpers Ferry, Huntington West Virginia

The issue, though, is what does this do for us?  The government enjoys a high amount of internal legitimacy in Iran; our apologizing for 1953 will not substantially harm the incumbent regime.

It's a matter of conscience sake. Also the reformers were the rightful winners so Amideimijad is illegitimate. There was extremely high levels of voter fraud and it was not properly investigated.

First off, there is no evidence to suggest that Mousavi actually won the election (as opposed to merely performing better than reported).  Second of all, while the international community may now view the government as illegitimate, that is not the view of the Iranian people; now is not the time to seek radical regime change, based on Western notions of legitimacy.

Also, the President's name is Ahmadinejad; it is worthwhile to make sure the name is spelled correctly - misspellings like that tend to annoy the citizenry.

To put it bluntly: misspelling their leader's name causes them to become angry. This particular angry nation has nuclear weapons. Let's not poke the bear.

It's not worthwhile to attempt to make amends for 1953 while simultaneously butchering the name of their President - we're not Marion Berry.

From the Office of JCL

I've been thinking long and hard with regards to my first preference for President. In this I look for a reliable conservative who will fight for the cause of a limited and transperant government. I've come to the conclusion that Senator Clarence would best suit this. We may disagree on a couple points here and there but if you want a smaller government with lower taxes and an advocate of balenced budgets then Clarence is your best bet.

In the IDS my support will be going to

HagridOfTheDeep

In his short time of activity he has shown that conservatives can show their fun sides.

Thank you again for the support!

6/13 campaign events.

Stops in Fredrick, MD, Virginia Beach VA,  Richmond VA, Hampton VA, Norfolk VA, Fredericksburg VA, Justice House of Prayer Washington DC, Willamsburg VA.

University of Kentucky

Many thanks to Governor ZuWo and his endorsement. He has been someone who has championed many of the causes that I plan on fighting for in the senate.

Some thought I would communicate some of my vision regarding education at the debate yet much of the time was addressing foreign policy issues. Needless to say my stance on the "Home and Private Schooling Tax Credit Act" introduced by Senator Clarence is that anything that puts the education dollars back in the hands of the parents of private and homeschoolers is something worth supporting. It's not out of an opposition to public schools that I would support this legislation. It's out of a support of competition in the education system that I endorse this legislation. I believe the regions are the best place to handle issues like this. At some point we need to address the future role of the federal government in the field of education.

Where I believe all governments can contribute further to the cause of liberty is over the issue of human trafficking. This is an agregious crime against many of our most vulnerable. One of the reasons I oppose all foreign aid is that many of those dollars are aiding traffickers in other countries. Even we are not immune to this part of the massive organized crime complex. Allowing these criminals aid given be taxpayer is no better than forcing people of faith, via tax dollars, to fund contraceptives. Isn't that something the couple themselves could handle much better than government. We also need immigration reform that strongly addresses this issue. From the Tea Parties and the Houses of Prayer to the national government in Nyman, please get this done for the sake of the protection of liberties we all hold so dear.

Thank you and may God and Dave Bless

...did you really just compare public contraception coverage to human trafficking?

And did you suggest that "people of faith" should be opposed to public contraception coverage (implying that, if you support such coverage, you are not a person of faith)?

There are many people of faith that are ok with such coverage. Many more are not in favor of those mandates. I see this as an issue of individual conscience and that government shouldn't be involved in this.


In the recent healthcare law, which I opposed, it put contraception as something that should be covered via taxpayer dollars. In my opinion mandating people of faith to fund contraception or abortion via tax dollars is no worse than human trafficking.

I can respect that.

From the office of JCL

I will be making stops all over Michigan ,Indiana, Missouri, and Illinois leading up to the election. The cities and towns so far as follows: Chicago IL, Peoria IL, Detroit MI (At Ford Field), Lansing MI, Dixon IL, Forest IN, Indianapolis IN, Muncie IN, Anderson IN, Brazil IN, St. Louis MO, Kansas City (Grandview) MO, the University of Missouri, Springfield (the headquarters of the A/G)

We also send out a heartfelt congratulations to Mr. Calloway and the Western Panthers for their victory in the Indiana State High School Baseball 3A tournament. Mr. Calloway taught JCL a lot about the fundamentals of the game. Only 4 things in RL could make me happier than what I am for them right now.

Congrats to Western! I've met several from there, and they were all good people to me. :)

That's where I went. We're best known for our 12 time champion marching band (my family had a big role in that history)

That's how I met folks from Western - marching band. We were in Class D, but we were in the same competition with them several times. Always great shows!

What do you play? I marched trumpet all 4 years of high school. Did Baritone junior and senior year of concert and pep band.

I will be announcing my tax proposal in a speech at Ford Field sometime tonite.

I played bariton in marching band, only because we didn't march trombone.

Why didn't your school march trombones?

Ford Field, Detroit MI

It's so good to be here in the Motor City again (crowd cheers)

My hometown and this city share in a great Atlasian tradition called the automotive industry. Ever since Elwood Haynes took the first drive down what we call today Boulevard Rd we have all been looking to get where we need to go just a little faster than before. The biggest concern I see ahead for Detroit and the Mideast as a whole is the government keeping the economic engine from purrin' like a kitten. Cities like this one, Kokomo IN, Cleveland OH and others are still struggling while the government milks us out of finances, through egregiously high, personal and corporate income taxes to use for projects that individuals families and the regions themselves are best suited for. The big spenders in Nyman are wanting to put a tax burden on us that is unreasonable and hinders job growth. Many of you know of my opposition to an income based tax system. If we want tax reform we must prepare to offer an alternative plan that will benefit all in the long run. Under my tax plan corporations will only pay a 15 percent rate. As for individuals it would look like this until we get out of debt.

9,500-20,000 5%
20,001-100,000 10%
100,001-500,000 20%
500,001-5,000,000 30%
5,000,001+ 40 %

Gifts and prize winnings will not be taxed period.

The long term goal is to get to a uniform flat tax system that would be fair untill we can change from an income based system of taxation to one of consumption.

I know some may think that this would be extreme but the rates under Fmr. President Clinton hold some similarities to this plan.

In the 90's a regulation called the Glass-Steagall Act was repealed. This action, among others, led to the current financial crises. The repeal lead to taxpayers having to take one on the chin so failed bankers could get away with their godless ponzi schemes. I put my sword in the ground saying no more to any industry who thinks it has the right to receive government bailouts without consequence. That is why Glass-Steagall must be restored as law. One thing both Senator Ben and I would both lead on.

I am an avowed conservative in the mold of Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, and the Tafts of Ohio, not in the mold of the Bushes, Richard Nixon or Cheney and Rumsfeld. I am a fan of Ronald Reagan, Ike, JFK, Pierre DuPont IV, Walter Jones and yes Ron Paul, David Mcintoish, Mike Pence and Jackie Walorski. Both sides have borne the taint of militarism outside the tenants of the Christian Just War Doctrine. To President Polnut and the members of the senate, we don't want any part of the Syrian Civil War whatsoever. Get us out of there immediately.

I still see hope for the city of Detroit and all the industrial cities of the Mideast and Atlasia. Isn't it right that this is the home of the Detroit Lions. A team being a sign that this city is coming back from a seeming long death. If only my God, who isn't dead but roars as a lion, would be so merciful to my Chicago Cubs (crowd laughs as they see a JCL surrogate hand him a guitar.

I'd like to end our time together with something a little different. A song

Do you see it coming
A rumble in the streets
Freedom's song is rising
It's meeting no defeat......




Thank you and may God and Dave Bless you

Hope to see you at the polls on your way to vote.

Best of luck, JCL. :)
I'd vote for you if I could!

It's gonna be a close one. The left is gonna give it their all.

Good luck JCL :)

And the same to you. Regardless of the outcome lets work together on putting an Atlasian Glass-Steagall in place.

It already is, actually :)  Senator Scott had put in such an inquiry already.

Good to hear.

Welcome to day 2 of voting. Don't forget to vote and if
you're a Mideast citizen the senate race is of vital importance.

Welcome to day 3 of voting. I'll be voting soon. Don't let the good ol boy network intimidate you to change your vote last minute.

Whut? ;)

Well, I am good, I'm male, and I'm old on this game. So do I qualify? :D

In a way yes. You've been part of the Atlasian political establishment for some time. I'm just some new kid trying to break the glass ceiling that said establishment has placed on the fast rising group of Atlasian conservatives.

Trust me this game does not have a glass ceiling for newbies, those who are newbies are just as likely to get elected as anyone else and there is surely no establishment conspiracy to hold down the new people.

^This is entirely true. I myself became an IDS Legislator almost the day I joined; I'm not even eligible to be President now and I'm SoEA. Not really a glass ceiling.

I'm not entirely convinced of that. I've seen mostly the same people in power on the national level and that has led to an alliance of comfort. When conservatives vote for a liberal when there is one much closer to them idealogically in a race out of mere friendship with the liberal it reeks of a good ol boy network in play.

Has ZuWo gotten to you? ;)

For whatever it's worth, friendship has nothing to do with my vote for Napoleon. Ask anyone who was around a year ago and they'd vouch for me on that.

It has nothing to do with ZuWo.

I know you and Napoleon went around a time or two. I guess the landscape has changed to where you could come around to support him.

One of the problems with this game is that as conservatives, we don't have the option of voting across party lines for our friends and still be able to be competitive because we have such a severe structural disadvantage. It's a shame sometimes, but unilateral disarmament doesn't work here any better than in real life.

One of the lessons the right needs to learn from today is that if we had kept the votes for the former RPPers together, Clarence would have been elected president. A few things happened today I don't really understand. We'll see what happens moving forward, but honestly this was the most dysfunctional showing of the Atlas right since I've joined the forum, and I don't want to blame Clarence. At least to me, he appears more a victim of the mess that is the right than the cause.

It cost both Clarence and I. It's also why I opposed the dissolution of the old parties. The question is where do we as the right go from here? I think we need to think more ambitiously if we plan to gain a national foothold or stronger. Will you help me cast such an ambitious vision?


At Indiana Whig HQ in Kokomo

It just came down to a 4 vote swing. The difference were individiuals whom I considered allies in the conservative cause, and very promininent civil servants at that, people I needed instead chose the safety of an incumbent when a bold vision of less taxes was brought to this table. I harbor no ill will towards Senator Ben or to my allies who chose him over me. He was respectful in the campaign when his surrogates were not. Accusing me of vicious lies saying I hate the GLBT community when I only oppose gay marriage and civil unions on grounds of religious conscience.


While tonite was a massive set back to the conservative movement all around, the left of Atlasia will not drive us into the sea or into the night. A resurgence is coming and they will know why we believe in Fiscal responsibility, faith, lower taxes, a humble foreign policy, and personal freedom within the bonds of traditional law order and morality. The people will someday see this. If you will join me, we can make the sun never set on Atlasian greatness.

I think that's a tad harsh, although you may not have meant it as such.  There is no conspiracy, I promise.  This was a close election, and crossover votes do happen - I should know, because I actively campaigned for these votes.

The fact you took the person who recruited me into the game did kinda hurt. Tmfth has sway and people do listen to him. When Inks and A-bob sided with you I knew I was in trouble. I was hoping my supporting them in previous elections wouldve helped me in this one. Sadly it didn't. 

Know this if roles were reversed I would've given you a high preference in the At-Large race that's coming up in a few months.

I appreciate that :)

I haven't decided my next move yet but like my candidacy for the senate, it will send shockwaves all over Atlasia. As you fight for your progressive beliefs I will fight for my libertarian conservative ones.

Thanks for having made this a real race, JCL. I look forward to seeing you serve our region in another role!

The Mideast and Atlasia has not heard the last of me.(though many on the left would like to see me gone)
I won't rest until conservative and regionalist intrests are as respected as the left is in this game.

In light of Tweed's lawsuit contesting the election, I have joined a Whig/Labor/Liberal brief against his claims. Any brand of communism and totalitarianism is not welcome in Atlasia. While we may disagree about the semantics of what freedom is about they are fighting to preserve the rule of law and thus I lend my support.

Like 20RP12 I also have some hesitation about the first amendment purposed. I know that lack of candidates in the Assembly race in May had a role in my defeat. I believe we placed the minimum cap in to promote activity and this time it has proven in the direction of more than
minimum so we will have five assemblymen after the July race provided the incumbants run for reelection.

A Lt. Governor position could have the same potential. But we have to factor in that we have a solid Mideastern bench regardless of party that could be making a big impact on the national scene. If the recruitment stays strong by both Whigs and the MCPR it may not be much of a problem.

Atlasian Evangelical Communion, Denver Colorado

I can understand the dissapointment of many in the room over the defeat of Senator Clarence. He is a good conservative friendly towards the evangelical community, in spite of a couple differences of opinion. Though we are a minority in Atlasian politics we must always use what voice we have in a way that is firm yet compassionate towards all Atlasians. We ask President-elect Napoleon to at least listen to our views and be open to possibilities of working with the faith community.

Yet we also see that a greater threat to religious liberty has arisen. In the form of Tweed. He has chosen to disput the election results obvious to us all conservative and liberal alike. We all know the history of countries that embrace a Marxist-Leninist idealology. It is a serious threat to liberty and the freedom of conscience. The National Council for the Restoration of Democracy is cross-partisan alliance to fight for the ideas of self governance that Marxist-Leninist-Tweedism would destroy. Is Tweed trying to turn us into an evil empire that Atlasians don't want to be? We must prepare for any outcome to occur.

May God Save Atlasia

Today starts a new administration. May Napoleon and Kal govern fairly and be open to the conservatives of the game. Know that you will have a passionate and vocal opposition keeping you on your toes. Because we are Taxed Enough Already.

Marion County Whig Office, Indianapolis, IN

Thank you for having me just prior to the election. As many of us know the assembly elections are often really close and anything could change the dynamic of a close race. As we also know vision and activity do matter. If they aren't properly aligned defeat will be assured. I'm confident in my chances of returning to the assembly but it's not prudent to be complacent. The campaign is going to likely land decent preferences from both candidates for governor as well as many who stood with me in the senate campaign.

Remember folks vote for candidates who will make for an active and diverse assembly with a respect for life, lower taxes, regional sovreginity and traditional values. To the left and those who think its ok to slash and burn on defense spending and veto friendship treaties they had no busisness vetoing while our friends are being ruthlessly attacked by a tyrannical regime your time in power will not be long.

Thank you and may God be merciful to Atlasia

Best of luck to you! You deserve to win this election. :)

We just have to see how turnout and the various preferences go.

Cogratulations to those who got elected or re-elected to the Mideast assembly. Let's be an active one. Certian items I plan to put before the assembly include reintroducing the amendments proposed by tmthforu that were recently defeated. Work on a law cracking down on human trafficking, and passing a budget that leaves the region in the black.


Regarding the Penn State sanctions:

What Sandusky did to those kids is deplorable. What the school (minus Paterno) did in hiding it is equally deplorable. However the NCAA crossed a sacred line in denying Penn State it's due process rights before handing the sanctions down. Are the sanctions fair? Yes and no. Yes in denying post season play and fines around 60 million dollars. No in punishing someone who tried to confront the problem head on while the school board did absolutely nothing. Paterno's statue should be put back in its place and the wins vacated by the NCAA reinstated. He tried to do the right thing and no one listened to him.

To the Mideast:

Many are wondering why I chose to bring back the amendments proposed by citizen Tmth. I chose to bring them back because I felt that these specific issues needed to be brought to the people for a clear yes/no vote. My sponsorship in both does not nessasarily mean I support them. In fact I oppose the amendment bringing the assembly to a permanent number of 5. The current system has shown itself to work quite well and should stay. So keep that system in place.

As for the adding the position of Lt. Governor, I support this. But I would like to give a word of wisdom, tie it also to the number of candidates to the assembly. For instance if we have the current active level of assemblyman then adding a Lt. Governor would be a wise idea to help aid the governor in his duties.

Response to recent political events

While the Lt. Governor amendment was defeated via a tie I'm not dissapointed in trying to bring back the position. I personally believe as we become a more active region, we will need the position to aid our governor regardless who they are or what ideology is.

In a more international scope, The Russian president Vladimir Putin has three musicians imprisoned just because he couldn't take a little criticism of his corrupt policies. These kids also invoked religious speech when they asked the Virgin Mary for aid. Prayer is not hooliganism. They were not inciting lawlessness. I'm asking President Napoleon and our diplomats to step in and grant these brave young people asylum until reforms granting further and total free speech rights are enacted in Russia. To the Duma, please step in and pass amendments to your Constuition safeguarding political and religious speech from criminal sanction.

Just for the record, voting on the amendments has not ended yet. The figures I published were merely "current results". It seems unlikely that the two regional amendments will be passed because they require the support of two thirds of the people who vote, but no official results have been published yet.

Purdue University, Lafyette IN

I submited the Mideast Anti-Human Trafficking Bill aka the Nefarious Act. I believe protections need to be in place to get justice for victims of being trafficked away from those they love for the purpose of sex slavery. The boys in Nyman are too busy looking to find ways to tax you more when real issues of justice should be dealt with.

As one who came from an abusive home I can relate to an extent the shame and torment with these poor souls caught in a web of lies for the sake of another's greed. Though the abuse I endured is not like what they had to endure because they had to go through worse than what I did. This is one of those issues that we as citizens of the Mideast and hopefully of Atlasia can come together on. When I was in Missouri over the Christmas holidays, I saw a documentary called Nefarious: Merchant of Souls. It showed the tolerance of some governments culture of tolerance of trafficking. It made me nearly sick to my stomach seeing many governments letting the traffickers get away with shredding the dignity of a woman or child for dishonest or immoral gain. As a compassionate people Atlasians must lead by example in the realm of human rights. The right to be personally, economically, spiritually and political free. Regardless of politics we need to come together to protect our most vulnerable and be a have of refuge and healing when many in our world see them as less than what God created them to be.

Recent announcements for the upcoming presidential election haven't escaped my attention. The liberal stranglehold on power has still lead to higher taxes, more spending and over gutting of a national duty of protecting our citizens. While many know my noninterventionist beliefs I also believe in strong preparedness. As a hero of mine once said "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance". A proper defense must be a strong one. Pingvin would best suit this vision. Whoever the Whigs nominate as their presidential candidate will likely garner my first preferance, IB member And Speaker of the IDS house JBrase has also shown a sensible and pragmatic style that this conservative is intregued by. He could make a good president as well and will likely have my second preferance depending on how things go.

Over the weekend we lost a legend in Neil Armstrong. A man who quietly served yet the achievement he made should inspire many generations to come. Our Atlasian pursuit of technological progress while maintaining common sense values of working hard and liberality of charity (via the family the faith and nonprofits in the local communities)Will take Atlasia to greater heights.

Thank you and may God Be merciful to Atlasia and the Mideast

I assume this is an endorsement, eh?

Atlasian Evangelical Communion, Atlasian Tea Party, Whig Liberty Caucus,

The Marriage Revenge Initiative is a bill that a element of liberals is now trying to pass via citizen initiative. Besides the system of socialized medicine, this is the worst attempt at legislation I've seen in my time of Atlasian service. They seek to fully pervert the whole of our human experience by denying traditional man-woman  marriage it's most noble position. I though the gay community just wanted "equality". I don't think Harvy Milk would want our society go down this rabbit hole. Only the most radical of libertines would dare come out in support of this abomitible of actions. This bill is an enemy of freedom with the most sinister of intentions. I urge all of conscience and reason to oppose this.

Come on bro.  "The whole of our human experience"?  You cannot be serious with that language.  If you go that route, you have to consider the many Kings who had plural wives two thousand years ago, such as Solomon with his 900 wives.  I don't support this initiative, but nor do I support your hyperbolic language.

Thank you for standing up for marriage.

Missed a spot.

I oppose plural marriage too Ben. Sometimes I use that kind of language to make a point. The proposed idea is an inversion of our history. I may be against gay marriage but this totally goes against the current law.

"via citizen initiative" is valid.  It's an adverbial phrase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc

If the Equal Rights Amendment is passed, the Revenge initiative would be unconstitutional.

Zion, IL

Thank you for inviting me to your town to see some of the historical significance this town has had upon the entire country. This community was built on the values of faith and family. Atlasia shouldn't forget John Alexander Dowie.

It look like we have ourselves a race for governor. Both seeking the office have had experience in the office amongst other roles of service. Both have had an excellent record of activity which is commendable. Needless to say I feel this race has gotten way out of hand with personal attacks and negativity. We are better than this. We who serve should seek to be above the partisan fracas as much as we possibly can. Hence I'll be abstaining from making an endorsement.

In other news I'll be running for re-election to the Assembly. This has been an active session with several important laws were passed. Some I didn't support or vote for yet passed. Some I advocated for and fell short. Hopefully the Nefarious Act isn't one of those.  Protecting our women and children from predators who seek to profit off another's personal dignity is an important role for government. As I've heard it said, "The role of government is to protect liberty"

Let the campaigning fun begin
Thank you and may God save Atlasia

Good luck on your re-election. :)

How are the hearings going for your possible new job?

Slowly I'm afraid. However it's likely I'll be confirmed. But I think tomorrow is the last day of the hearing.

I just put up a bill late last week. Chances that it passes are real good. It's the Anti-Human Trafficking bill. Plus I'm talks with various people on a budget proposal that will hopefully balance the ME budget.

List of campaign stops 9/7-14

9/8 Rockfest Rochestor IN
9/9 Campaign team spending time with faith and family
9/10 Evansville IN
9/11 Patriot Day rally Tea Party Kokomo IN
9/12  Dixon IL/
9/13 Green Bay WI
9/14 Troy OH

Christian Rock Bands Endorse JCL

Several Christian bands mentioned their support of JCL in the upcoming Assembly race. Liquid6Teen, 12 Stones, and former Korn member Brian "Head" Welch.

"We may rock and roll heavy but we love Jesus and we believe JCL speaks our concerns over traditional values and the right to life."

JCL even got on stage with "Head" during his encore of "Adonai" and led the crowd in a collective headbang. JCL then says "I love to headbang for God. And it's ok to lose a little religious dignity and worship Jesus in a way most fundamentalists would be critical of. I've been headbanging most of my life and while I'm a little older than some here I still like to join in on a mosh pit."

Was BRTD at this concert?

I can't confirm or deny if he was there.

This should help Tmth.

I'm very proud of my pro-life record in this game - unlike many others, I have actual policy and votes to back my record, not just rhetoric. ;)

Thank you very much, JCL! Your support, just like anyone else's support, is greatly appreciated. :)

Come again?  Huh?  Are you talking about me?

From the office of JCL

I've been given further information that makes me reconsider a previous and now deleted post. Thus I will be retracting my endorsement. I am truly sorry.

Voting for a Jew over an evangelical=sin.

I'd also like an elaboration on the part about me, if you please.

Pray, explain.

Focusing on the issues...

Is there a specific area in the budget you believe we could cut to help try and balance the budget?

I 'loled' at the pretend endorsements :)

What were they for?

I retracted the endorsement for now because I'm sick of the negativity the race took.

Ben: I've made the "Joe Lieberman" statement about in the past. I wasn't trying to take a dig at you. It's what I respect about you despite policy differences.

So I'm being compared to Joe Lieberman because our policies are similar?  Um, okay.

I remember people used to say this about Jesse Helms and, more recently, Alan Grayson.

When someone 'compliments' a politician in this manner, there ls usually reason to be concerned, not about whether the politician stands for something, but rather what they stand for.

Case in point...

Oh, fine then, as I stupidly tried to modify my post where I gave an endorsement to JCL and accidentally deleted it, let me clarify my statement:

I am endorsing JCL for Mideast Assembly because he is a consistently pro-life voice and has actual positions he stands by, which are easily observable instead of going around the forum pretending to be both a conservative and liberal simultaneously and issuing a constant stream of blatant panders to various constituents to manipulate their view of him. He is the same before and after elections. I don't mean to attack pragmatism. Pragmatism is the only way anything gets done in a world where the two party system is constructed such that people have to actually live with the resutls (unlike on here where positions are determined externally and brought here). But pragmatism is applied in order to achieve some vision, some underlying core set of principles.

I don't always agree with JCL; in fact there are a number of issues where we have very different opinions, like how a tax system should be structured, or the role of a centralized banking system, etc. We have quite substantial disagreements about how a government should be run. Heck, in real life he probably wouldn't even vote for me. But I think he has been steadfast enough in his advocacy in areas we do agree that he merits my support.

Fellowship Missionary Church Fort Wayne, IN

Well it looks like the ERA will pass (crowd boos). It goes to show that folks want federal intervention regarding rights betwixt the sexes and ones sexual orientation.  We the silent majority know that this is not how it was ment to be. While we agree that no one should be discriminated against based on race, creed color, national origin, gender or political idealology, we deplore further government intrusion upon the rights of the regions. Furthermore to restore the proper balance of power between the national government and the regions I propose and seek aid of a senator the amending of Article 1 Section 5 Clause 5 to take out matters regarding marriage, divorce and adoption. Regional governments are better attuned and suited for these sensative matters. Regions are better to handle this because having the national government handling authority regarding marriage law could lead to draconian and obviously centralized control over an issue most critical to an extremely local matter.

Now I've finally seen a clear distinction in the governors race. One far beyond partisan bickering and personal attack. To some who may say a certain individual got to me over certian contraverseries is flat out false. Did I let the negative aspects of that race effect me? Honestly I did. The two men running for governor have fine records of activity and have served the Mideast and Atlasia well. I wish they would put their personal issues aside and work to build a better Mideast region. Needless to say I've finally made up my mind of a formal endorsement. Earlier this week I though I had made a decision but upon further deliberation I withdrew it. I've made further deliberation in this race and I can now say with no reservation that I endorse the current Governor ZuWo. It's not that I dislike former President and Governor Tmth, it that I agree with ZuWo more on certian matters of relations between the regions and the government in Nyman. I wouldn't be making this decision if they had been united in a recent decision. Come what may Tmfth knows if he wins and I'm re-elected I would work with him on things we both agree upon. The budget and elements of game reform. This coming weekend we have an important election. Get out and vote

Thank you and may God save Atlasia

*JCL sees a female friend and beelines to her to talk*

I only saw your endorsement now so I'll gladly repost what I stated earlier:

From the office of JCL

In light of Clarence's resignation, should there be a primary amongst conservatives I will submit to such a primary. I respect Clarence and thank him for his service. We hope he chooses to return when he is ready and be an important conservative voice Atlasia needs.

As I'm leaving the assembly at the end of the term I'd like to leave the people with this thought. What is it that the people fear so much that they run to those who believe that government is the solution to whatever the problems of our Atlasian society? Do they fear being responsible for themselves and thus being more governing of themselves, or is it that they fear that individuals do much more for charity on their own than what government can do through its repressive tax policies?

I believe Tmth will make a great governor. It's only fair that I didn't get his vote because I didn't endorse him. I still believe ZuWo was the better choice. Should 20RP12 win the Whig primary and defeat Franzi for the At-Large seat vacated by Clarence, I will rematch Senator Ben.

To those who think I'm an extremist, I could throw that word right back at you. However I'm not going to. Progressives around here tend to have a rather thin skin because they have a numerical advantage. Just because they have pulled a wave election back in our faces doesnt mean we conservatives and libertarians won't hold your feet to the fire. In RL my wing of the GOP will have to hold Mitts feet to the fire and see if he holds a line that says no more to extreme spending and tax hikes.

My service to the region and Atlasia is not over. We have a presidency to take back to a place of reason and conservative stewardship. They say Napoleon has been one of the best. Tell that to the unborn in the later stages of development that he wants to allow abortions for via a ruthless practice of partial birth abortion. Late term abortions should never be allowed any sort of legal support. Thus I will be proposing a citizens referendum to ban abortion after the 16th week totally and before only allow it in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. I hope to have your support on my future endeavors.


Thank you and may God be merciful to Atlasia

JCL: would you be interested in working to develop a comprehensive infrastructure plan focusing on these five points (below) so that we can further interregional cooperation on infrastructure?

1. Energy
2. Rail/High-speed rail/high-speed bus
3. Protected areas and expansion of our national park system
4. Broader transportation development (air and road development, as well as our current infrastructure maintenance and revenue measures such as infrastructure banks)
5. Water supply

Will you be suing due to your original absence from the ballot?

I hope he does.

I've introduced legislation in the senate that would make sure errors like this one are properly corrected. I'm not sure when it will be debated, but I really hope it passes. Homely is only human, so mistakes happen. Still, there's got to be a legal way to fix them. Chaging the ballot after people have already voted is not the way to do it.

I could support some of the ideas as long as they respect the property rights of land owners.
What is your idea on a high speed bus? Like a faster version of Greyhound?

From the office of JCL

It has come to our attention that JCL was originally left off the ballot for the Special Election for the At-Large seat vacated by Clarence. We reject this egregious omission and thereby petition President Napoleon to remove the current SOFE. Franzi was elected by acclaim and I will recgonize that. Even if he would've been on the ballot from the start (as JCL was duely entitled to as a candidate) Franzi would've still won regardless. If the SOFE isn't removed within 48 hours, JCL will sue the administration and seek the removal of Napoleon and Nathan from office due to official corruption and neglegence. The results are recognized but this omission of a candidate the administration dislikes with a passion will not be tolerated.

It might be feasible to change the brown-colored lines to high-speed bus; it is still very much on the table.

How extensive would those changes be?

First of all, I thank you for your maturity and honesty regarding the overall results of the election.

I think your demand that Homely resign is excessive, though. I've been in charge of many federal elections and this kind of thing can happen easily. Considering he fixes his unintentional error as soon as possible, I don't think any further action is warranted.

I agree that your calls for his removal are a tad excessive.  I think, if anything, a repeat election is a more reasonable solution to the problem if you plan on pursuing a case.  I agree that an innocent mistake was made, but in defense of Homely, there was some confusion as to who would represent the Whig Party in the special election.

Calling for homly's resignation I felt was the fairer route than throwing this election into chaos. I don't see that as excessive. As I said in the statement, even if I would've been on the ballot from the start, Franzi was elected by acclimation. A change in the SoFE is only fair over this matter. As I also said the Napoleon/Nathan administration has 48 hours from when I made the statement to remove him or I will sue for their removal for official misconduct and conspiracy to commit official misconduct.

Calling for a new election is chaotic?  Um, okay.

We're nearly half way to the next at large election. Franzi was elected. That isn't disputed. It's the negligence that must be accounted for.

It's a matter of somebody must take responsibility. If homely doesn't resign or the administration doesn't fire him I will sue to remove Napoleon and Nathan from office.

How do you think you can sue for removal of a federal office holder?

I think the fact that you would rather see Homely removed from his position than have another opportunity to win the Senate seat is sort of interesting.  In spite of my personal opinion though, I don't think the Court is going to give you exactly what you want... but I guess we'll see how it all plays out.

And that will be the day I finally give up on all of this.

The SoFE will not be fired. Please sue though, I could use more political donations from my lawyer pals.

I am sorry that mistakes were made. My administration plans to resolve this independently.

Firing the SOFE is the only fair and right thing to do.


Tweed gets nothing. The highest ranked senator would assume presidency till the next president is installed.

I've got a map in my office: for a Florida example it'd be having high-speed bus to Bradenton/Sarasota from Tampa instead of a conventional rail line.

I have no seditious intent.

From the office of JCL

It's almost 9pm EDT and there has been nothing done regarding the termination of homely. I hereby petition the Atlasian senate to impeach Napoleon and Nathan for official misconduct in violation of Article 1 section 4 Clause 6 of the Atlasian Constuition.

I didn't want the situation to come to this. However the administration has failed to properly address the
disenfranchisement leveled upon JCL by the administration even if by omission.

Nope, not happening.

I will support that.

I'm trying to defend the senate against an encroachment of its due authority by the administration Ben. If Hagrid's bill passes, I will withdraw this

If you truly cared about the Constitution, you wouldn't support an unconstitutional bill.

How is Hagrid's bill unconstuitional?

So did the Whigs dissolve or what's going on with the Atlasian Right.

The Whigs tend to lose a lot when parties like TPP and the MCPR come up.

...and when our chair resigns; and when we lose a senate seat halfway through a term; and when a past judicial overlord returns in a coup; and when our best governor loses reelection because of a two-sided, petty, jealous feud; and when our new chair drops off the face of the planet; and when our questionably-elected vice chair leaves the party without giving us any notice or without having done anything at all to try and fix our situation.

This is a mess. I'd consider stepping in officially but as you can see, I'm an ass.

Seriously? ::)

Not so much that, but more just inaccurate.

Well, perception matters too. But I don't want to get into an argument

I feel your pain.

You're not a donkey. You may be the person we need

Wow. Labor is actually the best-running party right now.

Some people needs to either get laid or stay away from the internet.

And let you liberals run roughshod over this game... I don't think so Kal.

What has made you so contraversial? You seem like a reasonable center-left individual who wants to make a positive impact on this game. If you've read about why I am polarizing you may think me an extremist. I'm willing to work with most Atlasians to build a strong nation.

None of that is really a big deal, wolfentoad. You're just new and a little bit eager. I wouldn't necessarily call it a bad thing.

I guess I'll mention the ways I've honked off many here:
1: My firm opposition to things like gay marriage and especially abortion
2. My ramblings in support of Ron Paul
3. My opposition to government ran healthcare
4. This recent war with Napoleon regarding a special election recently held
5. Being sympathetic to the Birther and Truther positions
6. I've been accused of being a Calvinist when my position is much closer to Wesleyan Arminianism  (I was raised Wesleyan-Holiness but converted to the Assemblies of God as a teenager)
7. And my views on Churchill (a gay Brit got really honked off on that one)
And here's # 8. If I were president I ask for a bust of the Iron Lady as a symbol of the special relationship between the UK and the US

Oh wow. You just don't know that good to consider yourself controversial.

Don't forget to vote in the Mideast assembly race. I'm taking write in votes.

Stupidity is hardly controversial.

It's actually very mainstream...

I'm fielding questions for the upcoming senate race. So ask away.

Also, this office expresses dissapointment over the recent bill passed giving transgendered individuals rights that would aid human traffickers to ply their NEFARIOUS trade.

Opinion on my poker bill?

Well, you never weighed in on my suggestion of just abolishing public bathrooms.

Why would I?

Sorry, I meant to quote JCL.

What would you do to help improve the working relationship between the President and the Senate?

I would lean towards its support. Though religious freedom protections should be specifically put in the legislation

I think an Atlasian ADA kind of nixes that.

I think tmth best articulates my view on your poker bill. I personally oppose gambling based on Franzi's reasons for maintaining the status quo. This is where the regions are better suited. I would support this in intent to let the regions regulate this as they see fit.

If elected, what committee would be interested in serving on?

Also, what is your opinion on the recent issues regarding the inactivity of several cabinent officials?

oh and one more thing, you said you agree with Franzl's reasonings, would you thus offer an opinion regarding his tactics in trying to stop the Poker bill?

His filibuster I actually do not agree with. I would like to see more senators weigh in on the subject before a final vote. To Senator Franzi, I'm asking you to end your obstruction of the poker bill. Please articulate your position in a clear way and let your fellow senators vote whether you or Ben's view is consistent with Atlasian law. Also consider what Gov. Tmth has said as well.

Personally, my intrest would best be suited as a partner with Senator Ben in National Security.

The inactivity is not acceptible. An active cabinent is an important cornerstone for this game to be a great one. If elected I would sponsor or cowrite legislation to mandate the cabinet to give a state of their department report like the president gives a staten of the union address.

I don't quite understand how I could articulate my position any more clearly.

Give specific moral arguments and that would make it plain. I'm against gambling but I don't see this as a place the federal government should be able to interveine. Like on matters of marriage, divorce, and adoption.

Regarding the Tragedy in CT

Our thoughts and prayers are with you. I can't imagine what the citizens of Conneticut and New Jersey are feeling after this senseless shooting. As an uncle of 10 nieces and nephews I can sense the collective anger and shock of these events. It is times like these that should remind us of the faith our country was built on and has so sadly fallen from.

I'm not going to place blame on anyone because in a sense it should be on us all. Did we see mass shootings like this prior to 1973? Rarely. I was a senior when Columbine happened and worked alongside the Scotts whrn they did an event in my hometown. The senseless spilling of innocent blood must end or I fear something worse will occur. Look at the Civil War as an example. While I disagreed with some of President Lincoln's policies he was right to say

" The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”

Let us heed these words.

May God be merciful to Atlasia and the United States of America.

OOC: I'm speaking as both JCL and as my Real Life Personage.l

Have a blessed Christmas and New Year season. I'll be active on campaign matters on New Years Day.

Campaign Kickoff in Fort Wayne Indiana
I hope you all had a great Christmas and  New Years. Hopefully you didn't have too much alcohol and got too crazy.

I see that the campaign is active as all get out and it's about time I engaged in the discorse. The recent left leaning turn in the Mideast Assembly is quite disconcerting. Recent legislation liberalizing abortion rights and even changing the way we elect the assembly have not gone past my eye while I was away tending to real life matters. Quite frankly is there a reason that we in the Mideast should be like everyone else in how we conduct our elections? No. I see no benefit in changing it.

It's good to see the governor veto the reliberalization of the laws on abortion. If elected i'll bring a bill to restrict abortion after the twelth week of pregnancy in all cases.

Regarding bringing back the position of Lt Governor, provided the region stays as active as it has been of late I will support it.

I will propose an amendment to the Atlasian Constitution to give the regions back the supremacy of legislative policy regarding marriage, abortion, and adoption. Federal intervention on this issue is unsound and beyond senseless in a free society.

One of the most important rights of free people is the right to keep and bear arms. Recent tragedies have brought this issue into the forefront and to see many advocate that we should give up the right to have certain types of guns or magizines for the perceived sake of security. What did Benjamin Franklin say about this? I'm a supporter of backround checks and all to keep violent felons from having a gun but don't punish the law abiding and repentant non-violent offenders from this important right.

And of course keeping taxes as low as they can be to maximize economic prosperity. One way we can do this is
promote changing over to engines that would handle natural gas. We've recently discovered more natural gas than what we thought we had. Lets utilize this resourse to eventually eliminate our need for foreign oil and use those savings to pay down the national debt.

Right to work is a good thing and shouldn't be taken away. Unions don't like it because it curtails their power to force individuals to join them. As a Federalist I believe that freedom of association is as sacrosanct as our other rights and thus these progressives and union lobbiests want to attack that. If elected I will fight to counter their vision of coersive force regarding our places of employment. Notice how the right to work states are becoming more prosperous. Economic freedom is one of the cornerstones of a free society. The others being faith, defense, and proper game reform.

I know many are wondering why I briefly took that tangent into national politics and I'll say this. The regions and national government in some matters need to partner together for the liberties both social and economic within traditional law, order and morality.

Thank you and may God and Dave save The Mideast and Atlasia.

To the Liberal Party

Thank you for your endorsement and hope to work with your candidate on issues we do concur on.

From the Campaign

The election is this weekend. I hope you are paying attention to the debate. Consider who's been active and who hasn't. Vote your conscience and I hope a Federalist/Liberal slate is one that the people will support.

The Mideast will have three candidates for senate. I am hereby announcing my candidacy for Senate.

While I can't say I agree with you on many issues, JCL, you've earned my grudging respect for standing up for your beliefs strongly in a center-left country, however unpopular they may be. You genuinely care about The People, although your priorities may be out of the mainstream. Good luck.

We have three great candidates in the race now, and I'm very excited to watch this campaign unfold.

I run because an honest and civil public discourse on the issues are needed.

Good luck JCL! I look forward to the campaign and the upcoming debate!

Ler the campaign be a good one.

Good luck JCL :)

You too Ben. Lets show the people a good race based on the issues like we did last time.

From the JCL for Senate campaign

There are some who question my decision to run. My motives are as the same as they always been. While many don't agree with my views and some even think them to be extreme in nature, there are some here who do share many of what I believe in. These people are sadly not represented at the national level well enough. While we have good conservatives jn the game I believe we need to take it to a higher level. A higher level of fighting for our most vulnerable including those the womb and the fight against human trafficking. The right for the individual to keep more of what they earn by flattening the current tax rates. The right to keep and bear arms that all law abiding citizens should enjoy. As well as cooperation between busisness and environmental intrests to properly utilize the resourses God has given us while doing so voluntarily and as the market and not government dictates. The motive is the people. It always has been and always will be. Regardless of internal partisan bickering or the constant competition betwixt the parties. As your Senator I will fight to let loose the dawgs of freedom and prosperity. I respect my opponents. Both have served well and while we differ on policy I believe they seek to serve you, the citizen, well. Hear us out. Be open to each of us and our ideas. Don't let the status quo dictate where we as a people can go. Don't be dictated by party establishments but vote with your conscience.

I'll talk about my ideas in the coming days. If you have any questions just drop them by this thread and I will answer as soon as my real life obligations permit.

Thank you and May God Save Atlasia

I will leave the region if you are elected. Thankfully, that is unlikely to happen...:)

Honestly what is your problem with me? You don't see me threatening to leave the region everytime the left gets what they want. We agree on almost as much as disagree. I view you in a respectable way. It disappoints me that you don't.

It's nothing particularly personal. I just value sane representation.

So do I. What makes you think my representing the people not be sane?

We granted his request at the Health Directorate for access to some records. The results weren't pretty.

More like the results are doctored for political motivation.

You've been a friend in Atlasia for a long time and I like that you are always outspoken about your views. We don't agree on everything and may look at certain issues from a different angle, but I'll give you my first preference.

I officially endorse you. You're on of the best conservatives here.

New Life Church, Kokomo IN

Its good to finally get to speak to the home crowd. The family that stepped up when parts of my own bailed and shirked their duties and instead nearly made me a statistic of what happens when a family is torn apart. For that I'm thankful for that.

Just a few short months ago we gave a proper tribute to our veterans and their families and Pastor, alongside my brother and a vet of Vietnam, articulated clearly our beliefs on foreign matters which are rooted in the principals of Holy Writ. As your Senator I will advocate these beliefs clearly as ones who strattle between the extremes of pacifism and neoconservatism. We prefer peaceful and quiet lives that we may give proper respect and honor to both our God and the government under which we are submitted to.

On matters of national finance I echo many of your concerns. Our government is a rather poor steward of the revenue it gains via the current tax structure which doesn't respect the rights of the well to do and the middle classes to give cheerfully and with a willing heart and that. Is evidenced by the extremely high rates that are paid in taxes. We need a flatter tax structure with the hope that income taxes become a thing of the past.

Our message that every life is sacred and thus must be protected by force of law. Recent events liberalizing the regional policy regarding abortion are disheartning to us all and must be delt with. The old law should be restored with some teeth to it. No abortions after the first trimestor for any reason except the mothers life and in those situation the doctors must do all they can to save both.

As we end our time together I'm not gonna give the "Andy Griffith" quips Pastor like to use on occasion but I will use one given to a comic book icon from his uncle and father figure. "With great power comes great responsibility." Be mindful of
these words as you go and vote.

God bless you and may He be merciful to Atlasia

It's election weekend and I'm urging all Federalists to be active in voting and encouraging your friends to as well.  The Cathcon/Spamage ticket is in need of your votes as is Goldwater, your regional races as well as myself in the Mideast.

Happy voting.

Welcome to day two of voting. If you have voted thank you. If you haven't yet please do so.

For the Mideast Region Senate race. If you are a Federalist we can't afford to split our first preference. Splitting that vote will hand the seat to hands that are not friendly to our intrests.

Now I'd disagree with that.

It wasn't in reference to you. I've openly asked those who first preference me to second preference you.

From the office of JCL

The third day of voting is fast approaching. If you haven't voted please do so and if you're in the Mideast please consider supporting me for regional senator and giving our current senator Ben your second preference. This is a conservative yet pragmatic region and I would keep that tradition going. There are folks including former presidents who would like to
say that my representing the fine folks of the region would move things back. That's not true. If elected I would promote enviromental stewardship while respecting property rights and advocate for women, vets and kids. You are not getting an extremist. You are getting a person with principals and values who can come together with those of other views for thw better of the region and nation as a whole. Ultimately that is up to you the people.

Good luck JCL! You've run a great campaign for the seat, even if you lost.

Congrats on your victory. Hopefully you serve people of the Midwest well.

You did very well in a race that made my persistent regional Senate result-watching actually interesting. From one rigid ideologue to another, kudos to you, good sir.

After taking a few days to think since the last election I've decided not to run for the Mideast assembly next month. However don't take this as me withdrawing from my work to promote the conservative movement in Atlasia. My eyes are set higher. There is greater work that the conservative movement needs to do inside itself and in the nation as a whole. A coherent and well articulated set of ideas and principals that individuals can come together on.

Lets get to work.

From JCL to all Atlasian Catholics

You have chosen well in the choosing of Pope Francis. May he guide the Catholic faithful and show those of all faiths Christian or otherwise the message that Jesus brought to us.

From the Office of JCL

After some time away from the Atlasian body politick, I feel refreshed and ready to serve the people once again.  With that I encourage you to vote NAY on the Federal Amendment Amendment. This would make amending the constituition much easier than it should be.

Russiaville, IN

Thank you for coming out to the town square to hear my announcement.

The Mideast region is a vibrant region one being governed by reason rather than inflamed passions. Where the principals of liberty and moral restraint are valued rather than an anything goes mentality that peremeates the folks in Nyman who show no respect to the business owners and their employees alike with draconian labor laws which violate the rights of the individual laborer as well as the rights of the job creator. They show no respect towards those who seek to bear arms for hunting or for self defence by limiting magazine capacity and raising the taxes to purchase these items.Even our taxes are too high for everybody. You shoud be able to keep as much of what you earn as possible as opposed to the current tax policies which penalize the prosperous and the needy alike. Which is why I will propose my Detroit Plan if elected.

This race will not be easy.  A fellow Federalist is also in the race. So we'll be involved in a primary race to determine who will have the backing of the party. TJ has an excellent history of service that gives him an advantage. I'm best known for my work to protect our kids against traffickers via the Nefarious Act which has crossed over to the Northeast.

Let the fun of the race begin

The Danger of the Status Quo

Recently an individual of some distinction chose to say that I would drag the region and the nation backwards. That is the farthest thing from the truth. Do they not realize that I desire economic freedom and prosperity that shames anything they and the current administration could come close to imaging. I don't discount that Atlasia is center-left. Needless to say however the Mideast is a center-right region and as such should have that kind of representation in the Senate. As much as they say that there is an extreme right there is also an extreme left. Both are equally dangerous to the liberty we all seek. They fail to realize that all sides have great points that can contribute to the betterment of us all. I seek a fair way. If you do as well please join me and make the Mideast and Atlasia better than we came to know her.

We recently heard and confirmed the disturbing rumor that Assad of Syria was using weapons of mass destruction. Now there is a debate regarding the rebels. What many Atlasians may not know is the rebels are just as sinister. They are under the authority of none other than the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Quaida. They have no regard for the human and civil rights of those who dissent from their warped view of mans relation with their creator or their fellow man. As such I seek an audience with any Christian or other oppressed minority who is not aiding Assad before the UN Security council. Let them petition the security council for aid. Don't get this twisted. I'm a noninterventionist in philosophy to foreign matters. However if Assad or the rebels even so much as sneeze on Israel, I fear the aftermath will be none other than Isaiah 17

A Matter of Conscience

As many of you have heard TJ will be the Federalist nominee. This means he'll have the party's machine backing him in this race. For that congrats TJ. However I'm not leaving this race. While I'm a Federalist at heart I must finish what I started with regards to this campaign even without the benefit of a party to help me. I've spent my entire life with my back against the wall always having to fight back like I have nothing left to lose. This will be no different. So if you have any further questions please pm me on policy. I'd love to hear from you

Endorsed!

Congrats on your appointment to the assembly.

Its day two of the elections and I've just voted. Don't forget to vote. Especially if you're a Federalist or part of the Union of National Democrats for Atlasia.

For those in the Mideast Region who haven't voted yet, please get out and consider voting for me for senate. I'm your independent voice for Free People, Free Markets and a Free Society. If I'm not your first cup of tea I suggest voting for TJ. He has an excellent record of service for the citizens of the Mideast and Atlasia as a whole and would make a great senator.

There he goes Again

My fellow culture warriors,

Outgoing Secretary Polnut is at it again. This time he attacks the Russian leader Vladimir Putin over singing legislation limiting gay rights further. While I don't usually back Putin on policy especially concerning Israel but on this I have to applaud the Russian attempts to keep this destructive lifestyle in check. Do I fully agree with the drastic authoritarian measures, no. Could he be looking at this as a national health issue? I don't know but to denegrate a major world leader and his country's policies over such a sensative issue is not wise when trying to build productive working relationships with the international community. Not everybody holds to your "enlightened" sensibilities. I don't but I'm not as drastic as the Russians. Respect their national sovereignty on how they handle this internally. Where we should work together is rescuing women and kids out of the hands of the human trafficker.

This is ridiculous. The contents of the Secretary's private conversations should have never been leaked in the first plac.  And I'm sure the only reason it leaked is because of you and the rest of the vast right wing conspiracy attempting to discredit the political achievements of the outgoing administration. Shame on you.

My folks had nothing to do with the leak. There's no doubt Polnut and I have some serious differences and he's actively made it personal to hinder my advancing to higher office but I slammed Putin as much as Polnut in my article.

Nix, I'm sorry that you choose to side with Polnut though I'm not surprised. For all of Putins flaws policy wise I believe he's right on this one and the administration is wrong.

I will be running for Mideast Assembly this month. I'll have my platform up in the next couple days.

We offer our deepest sympathies to Senator Scott as to the reason of his departure. In spite of his principaled liberalism we found ourselves on the same side on quite a few things. Namely our pragmatic ideas on helping inmates on a path to honest citizenship and protecting our kids against the trafficker and as a place of refuge for the victim who seeks healing and wholeness. Hope you are able to return soon.

Also you may've seen that this now a campaign for two races. I am standing in for a recently vacated at-large senate seat in addition to the Mideast Assembly race this weekend. There are times when Atlasia needs a choice and not an echo of the current status quo which is failing the people and has led to what is going on in the Pacific region. For the naysayers who think I won't represent all Atlasians that is a thought that needs to rendered nonexistent. I would represent all Atlasins fairly and justly. Our dark days are due to mistrust and fear. Regardless of conservativs fear of new ways and ideas of doing things or the progressive being resistant to tried and true ideas. We need both to promote the cause of human freedom.  Do we desire the upward trend to the maximum amamount of liberty within traditional law and order or towards the ash heap of despotism? If you seek the former, that cause of liberry, I seek your support.

As a candidate for the vacant At-Large Senate, would you be willing pledge to check every senate related thread every day, and if not then perhaps every two days?

Is this part of an effort to promote senate activity?

We may disagree on many issues, but the civic union endorses you for Mideast assembly.

Don't forget to vote in the Mideast Assembly race. Looks like we've got a good one.

Houston,  Texas

Its been an interesting week. I wasn't expecting to be in Texas. I was expecting to be campaigning in West Virginia for a seat in my regional assembly. Yet times required that I travel a little more extensively for a cause just as important and that is that of putting another Federalist into the Senate in Nyman. I'd like that opprotunity. With the increasing influance of the Labor party and the recent death of the Liberal Party a greater counterweight is needed. Regardless of if that's myself or Maxwell as Federalists representing you in Nyman.

Energy..... its what powers our daily lives from our cars, trucks and motorcycles to our industries and military might. Some think the idea of an all of the above policy is crazy and want to limit the kinds of fuel sources we utilize. I must disagree. Coal is an indispensable source of energy that can be used and still find ways to minimize the enviromental impact. So I would oppose the moratorium on the building of coal processing plants until these alternative sources can be proven their effectivness. We should make further emphasis on natural gas and possibly a transition to natural gas engines which burn cleaner and are more efficient than standard engines.

Nuclear energy when utilized for peaceful purposes is a powerful force for good. Needless to say there are enviromental concerns that should be addressed. As such the question to my opponents is what about putting research into the feasibility of putting our nuclear waste onto rockets and shooting it into the sun. Honestly I'm not sure of keeping it in our deserts will be a wise idea going into the long term.

What about our research into cold fusion? How much promise do we have in Hydrogen-1 and Helium-3? While we take further study into these we should find ways to utilize our current technology to fullest extent while finding ways to further minimizing enviromental impact.

Thank you for your time and be blessed

Hello Phoenix,

Its good to come to a city that has shown growth inspite of the crisis of government in the Pacific region. It doesn't hurt to have had one Barry Goldwater as a famous citizen statesmen of the past as one of the great state of Arizona. Many of you have been adversely affected as well by the fiscal irresponsibility that has invaded Nyman through Labour control. Look at Detroit for a lesson of what happens when one party is dominant for decades. It doesn't allow for new ideas to come and allow for progress in things that need to progress naturally.

With that we need serious change in the halls of Nyman and with that change some things government does now it will not do when I'm done with the reforms needed. Most know of my opposition to progressive taxation as it is a model to force charity from the rich via government force. If a rich person wants to give of their abundance they should want to and with gregarious joy to a church or other private charity. 

A return to a healthcare system that is market driven will free the government to pay down the debt and all Atlasians could have an efficent high speed rail system that would be the envy of the world. Sadly we can't have things like this when the government is still in the red. We can do this via private medical savings accounts with the option to put all of what you would pay in FICA taxes into that account. 

Many of you have heard of my Detroit Plan. For those who haven't its a flatter version of what we know to be the Clinton taxrates. If we must have a progressive tax system it should be utilized to promote the maximum amount of growth possible with the goal to reduce and eventually eliminating the debt. With that a better Atlasia can emerge.

Don't forget if you are a Federalist to vote JCL in the Federalist Primary

Be blessed

This Labor Senator has only signed balanced budgets. The one you're runnjng against put us on that path. Untkl two weeks ago, Federalists had just as many Senate seats as Labor. I think its safe to blame the ex-RPP administration for the economic troubles that developed under their watch and we should stop electing more of these fiscally irresponsible ex-RPP members. :)

One of the few things Polnut and I agree on except we differ on the method of its execution.

Where it is that Detroit Plan?

This would be the Detroit Plan Superique

Yes it is.

I would make the effort to check all of them at least every other day Yankee.

Please folks don't forget to vote. From what I've seen with the first day of voting it could be an historic non presidential race. And please vote for Maxwell. He has spearheaded a comback in the Midwest that makes it look nearly as good as my beloved Mideast. Don't get me wrong I ran for that seat but folks weren't quite ready for my views to be in such august company. I will be running for a senate seat in the future and I hope I can count on your support when that time comes. But for now get out and vote Maxwell.

Bangor, Maine

It's good to see so many liberty lovers today. It seems so crazy so soon after a special election that we're at the beginning of another national race. It's good that Governor Maxwell has decided to announce his run for the upcoming at-large senate race. His capable record as governor has brought the Midwest up out of a level of inactivity that nearly destroyed the Pacific region.  As such he will have my firm support in this upcoming as would any Federalist or any conservative or libertarian minded independent or member of another party. But enough of the preliminaries.

I want to talk to you about why I'm also stepping in this race. It's the state of our economy. We can do better. There is potential for much more and faster growth. Our friends in the Labour party and their allies in the NMAM think their cradle  to grave mentality of government of entitlements will work much better than a system where the market is left largly alone. Of course with the obvious exceptions of ensuring consumer safety along with a fair and safe job market where the individual is allowed to decide to be in a workplace with a union while not being apart of that union. The individual also knows the risks and benefits of that decision in a fair and balanced way.

The other snag I see in our ability to maximise individual economic prosperity is the current tax brackets. They simply don't work. No government, if they were smart, would tax a class of citizen that is more well off by a rate of nearly 70 percent (that is if you combined the various federal, regional local rates). That simply chokes the life out something that needs to grow.

I know some folks wonder why some kid from rural Indiana who only had two terms run for Senate. I run because we can be better than we are. We can be an Atlasia where regardless of political view we can be a beacon of hope to the world. A shining city on a hill which has a rather difficult time being hidden. Where the intellectual, rational, and often passionate debate in the sphere of government and politics can be a peaceful model that should be the envy of the world. Where the democratic process is protected and firmly underpinned with hard work, faith in something bigger than yourself, and a belief that though times could get dark that light can be found if each of us individually and as communities and regions do so on our own and together

Thank you and may God save and keep Atlasia

1. I'm rather leery of the bill. While T.J. does bring up good points in particular with means testing and other matters, I think there is another way to go about reducing unemployment and raise incomes and thus raise govenmental revenue. I know around here what I may say next won't be popular but mandating union membership as a term of employment in any service or industry is simply wrong. While unions have done a great service in gaining better conditions and compensation packages there have been abuses. So I'm saying open up the shops to nonunion labor. Also we need to encourage a return to an industral rather than a service based economy. Lower taxes on companies so they can hire more labor. I'm suggusting a three percent corporate tax rate across the board. To help small business to increase I would advocate my Detroit Plan which is a flattened version of the Clinton tax rates.

2. Private schools should not be turned into defacto public schools. Of course we need to have a better quality of education but we should look at what our private schools are doing that promotes more success amongst their students and rather than demonizing them adopt their merhods. This will get a bit into question three but education should be handled more on the local and regional level. Also let in educators who aren't part of the teachers unions. Bring in successful teachers from all over the world to help our teachers improve in their methods of education. So I'd vote nay on the current education bill.

3. Other than education I'd devolve family matters to rhe regions. As it goes now marriage, divorce and adoption are under federal purview as a power given to the senate. Regions are better suited on these matters because they are closer to the situation. Someone in Nyman doesn't know how to handle a family situation in Nebraska or New Hampshire. Adoption should be a partnership as you have not just interstate adoptions you also have international ones.

Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Thank you for such a robust welcome.

The issue I want to talk about is on the hearts and minds of many Atlasians of all political views. The current regional structure itself. Many in the political class and citizens are supportive of cutting the regions down from five to three. Their main concerns are well intentioned to promote greater activity. Are they not aware of the reforms Spamage and Maxwell are trying to promote within their regions to spur activity along with the IDS and my own Mideast and the ever solid Northeast once led by a friend in former governor Scott? While it will be a great way to shake things up I as a regionalist can't support this until I have more information on the pros and cons of going to three regions. Lets have a.careful and thoughtful debate rather than running towards a fad that could hurt the game we all love irreparably.

No one is trying to ram this through - in speaking with President Nix, Governor Maxwell (who also supports this), and several others, I think we're all hoping for a very thoughtful and detailed debate on the issue. :)

I'm surprised Max would support this given his region would be blown to kingdom come .

I think we need less instances of catastrophic regions, and I don't see so much harm in changing the regional system if we do it in a thoughtful way, which I think is in the works. If that means shaking things up in such a manner, so be it.

I agree with you but would go even further in that I vehemently oppose any attempts to reduce the number of Atlasian regions.

Since this is a crucial issue for me I proudly endorse you!

JCL, what are you positions on school vouchers, private schools, and homeschooling?

On School Vouchers: I'm for them. When you're running in 25th in academic achievement amongst the first world nations, that is simply below what we should hold ourselves to. The source of that problem is failing schools. We have parents who want the best for their kids yet are often stuck in a bad school system due to bad policy. Look at the Indiana system of doing vouchers. Our scores and standards are steadily improving and parents are being able to choose where their kids go to. Why isn't competition amongst schools for students a good thing. I see it as a very good thing.

On private schools: Again this is a matter that parents rather than government should be the final authority on as much as possible. Often these schools come about because of religious conscience and that should be respected. What is being attempted by elements of the senate to force these schools into being ran like public schools is simply wrong and must be stopped.

Homeschooling: As I said in the private school section parents mostly due to religious consciences make use of this option. Usually the academic standards amongst this goup of Atlasians are the highest along with private schools. Our public schools need to look at the good things they're doing and maybe adopt some of those methods. Why do you think homeschoolers are winning spelling bees like none other?

JCL, I have been having a hard time deciding who to give my third preference to, and that answer has convinced me to give it to you. :)

Thanks Goldwater. Any help I can get is a good thing.

My foreign policy speech will be coming this weekend.

Just like you vehemently oppose religious freedom for Muslims and gay adoption. Go figure! :)

Hint: I'm neither running for Senate nor are your fact-checking abilities particularly strong. I also think that some people in your party would prefer it if you posted less. ;)

I would actually prefer it if TNF posted more. He's advocating for the party's core principles and bringing up key differences between candidates. It might not always be pretty, but that's not his style ;)

True; which I would hope means you and TNF aren't so different, considering you're more insulting, disgusting and hypocritical than he could ever hope to be.

I would argue that this comment is a tad ironic but since I don't have the intention to derail JCL's thread any further I will not write more. ;)

TNF,

I don't oppose religious freedom for those who follow the teachings of Mohammed provided that they aren't masking it for an agenda of violence as much as much as I would for anybody else. With regards to gay adoption, do I need to bring up the Rembrandt expression again?

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Also, this is for everyone. If you're going to argue, stop it with the fake smileys.

Calling out a politician on his retrograde positions has nothing to do with his retrograde position on game reform? I'm realize you and your party are as reactionary as they come PJ, but c'mon, there's obviously a link here between being a radical social conservative who wants to ban minarets and gay adoption and is opposed to changing the regional structure. Perhaps ZuWo is afraid of losing his power over the Mideast and that region's status as the nation's most reactionary?

Reactionary? Reactionary? REACTIONARY? SERIOUSLY? You simply know that's not true, TNF, FloridianOranges and I have a similar Matrix score to Bernie Sanders. I'm going to leave this arguement now, I wish you all well, I apologize if I offended anyone, and I hope no one kills anybody.

TNF, Look at what I said about religious freedom. It applies to Muslims as well as Christians as long as they aren't using it as a cover to commit acts of violence and terror. I deplore the actions of those who bombed abortion clinics as much as the ones who bomb our embacies and burn churches.

You know my reasoning for the opposition to gay adoption.

On the changing of the regional map I oppose it because partially none of these proposed maps benefit my state of Indiana in terms of representation and merging the Mideast with the Northeast is a bad idea because combining the two most active regions into one I believe will set back giving a hand up and moving forward with the reforms of the Midwest and Pacific regions. Plus I believe this a power grab by the left to destroy the one conservative bastion of the game and I can't sit back and let that happen.

I wasn't so decided before, but endorsed for a third preference!

As for my format for the foreign policy section I would like to turn it into a Town Hall style meeting. If possible I would like to start fielding questions around 10:45 AM EDT tomorrow. So you may start to ask your questions now.

When do you think its appropriate to use force?

Hey JCL, why are you against gay people adopting kids?

Before I give my answer I'm going to give you my story. I'm from a military family. This goes all the way back to the days of Willam Wallace and Robert the Bruce the King of Scotland. It is also traced to the peace churches of the Protestant Reformers like the Pennsylvania Dutch, the Amish and other groups of that nature. So I'm going to try to keep it simple. The use of force will be something I will sparingly use. I'm a firm believer in what Jesus said. "Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called the children of God" The Christian Just War doctrine is something I will use as a guide wether or not I will support the use of force.

Townhall bump

Get you vote on folks. Fellow Federalists its important that we give our first three preferences to the party's candidates. To have a chance of all three winning I'm reccomending this order.

JCL
Tmth
Maxwell

We can't afford to split our votes like the left so lets stand together and create the change we want.

Good luck JCL!

Looks like you're already in Max

I have a question for fellow Federalists. If Max is well over quota for election why are you still first preferencing him and not helping Tmth and myself with first preferences. Do you want a majority in the senate? Then throw some first preferences our way.

Maybe there are Federalists who (shock! horror!) don't actually want you in the Senate.
Same principle exists on the other side, see for example

Nix not voting for Napoleon....... I expect this kind of behavior from the left not the right. To think if they (meaning the federalist) were running and I wasn't I would give them my vote. I only expect the same in return. Isn't that how the party system works. I knew Nix wasn't going to preference me at all but for Federalists to preference Napoleon and SJoyce ahead of me when I would preference them ahead of any non federalist vote I make shows a double standard that will cripple any political movement.

What is that first sentence supposed to mean? Fortunately, a lot of the Federalists are less partisan than you. Let's take the most moderate member of the Federalist Party, which in my opinion is Sbane.  Not sure if they already voted, but based on ideology alone, does it make sense for a federalist with Sbane's matrix score to vote for someone they differ from 2 points economically and 3 points socially (Napoleon), or someone they differ from 6 points economically and 5 points socially? (You)

Him and Scott I expected. I'm talking about Vosem and Torie.

I don't perceive Vosem and Torie as raving fundamentalists, either.

Your position on gay marriage would probably explain Torie's vote.

Yet I would back him if he were running in this race.

There are RL politicians who I wouldn't vote for even if they endorsed me. (If I was a RL politician.)

I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for you if you endorsed me, not sure what I would do in that situation, but I can't imagine your getting your endorsement in the first place.

You're missing some basic logic here.

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Blue guy might vote for red guy, but red guy will prefer green guy over blue guy.

Jeez, people. JCL is not a "raving fundamentalist", he's just a typical social conservative who's been outcasted by the extreme social liberalism of Atlasia. People like Torie and Vosem have supported people IRL who oppose gay marriage, what makes JCL any different?

Don't blame me. I second pref'd JCL. *badge of honour*

Sorry if anyone was offended by my comments.

The idea I've try to go with as I've developed in this game is build issues based coalitions. I know many despise my view on gay marriage but they should look at my tax plan which is built on a compromise. Look at my foreign policy which many on the site would sympathize with. Look at my energy policy which takes the best of conservative ideas and considers the enviromental concerns of the left. Look at my view on criminal justice which is rehabilitative in nature but still shows the punitive side that our laws have to have. Look at my advocacy of protecting our kids against predators and traffickers. That's what they need to look at in spite of my view of marriage which regardless of that should not be a senate power but one of the regions.

I'm not blameing you Supersonic. I'm trying to address the federalist and center-right disconnect that I've had to deal with unlike most.

The Federalists have an large big-L Libertarian wing who are very socially liberal, this is probably a thorn in your side. I think it's more a perception, rather than any actual policy difference.

Could be. But I back them as vigorously as I would the socon wing many try to paint me to be part of.

And as chairman, I have encouraged federalists to vote for JCL, so let's not blame the Libertarian wing of the party, shall we?

I'm not blaming. Merely stating.

Most assume because of my view on marriage that I'm not of the Libertarian wing myself. I've tried to be a bridge between the Conservative and Libertarian wings.

JCL:

I was thrilled to see you on the ballot. :)

Thanks for running. You made THIS socon damned proud. :) I gave you my third preference, because I wanted SJoyce to make it (having worked with him in the IDS), and TM to make sure he got in.

Please, some of us did notice and are glad you ran.

I plan on running again Kenobi. Don't know when or what for yet. Not to say I don't have a prospect or two.

Chicago IL,

It's good to be back in The Windy City. If only our Cubs would leave their losing ways. I can kinda relate to their situation but I'm going for something better that we will all benefit from. A JCL term in our assembly. I'm running this time on a plan to propose specific infrastructure improvements that will benefit all of the region. As part of this Chicago would serve a very important role in this project. A rail system that would put the current proposal to shame all while maintaining a balanced budget.

Thank you and on to break my losing streak.

Are you a Cubs fan?

Fourth Generation one.

Endorsed! The assembly needs an ideas man, and you are certainly that.

Indianapolis, IN

I'd like to express my thoughts on this drive to call for a convention to overall the Atlasian Constitution. I can understand why some want to do so. Some believe the game is becoming stagnant and want to change legislative processes. This will not be getting my support. One of the proposed changes would end the regional system we have. There is a very good reason for the idea of seperation of powers and duel federalism. The federal government has no business dictating matters of family to the regions. The powers of the national government need to be clear, specific and limited.

Regarding the matter of unions I have examined a certain system used in Canada (discussion in Spamage for President thread) called the Rand Formula. Given my economic views I cannot in good conscience support any move towards. While I firmly believe unions have a right to be an advocate for individual workers going before management, I also believe that the individual has the right not to join said union and the rights and responsibilities that come with it. I believe union and non union labor can work together amicably and peacefully in the same shop. So why should one be forced to join a union as part of being hired to say an auto or steel factory? They shouldn't be. That's why I believe in right to work. It promotes a fair job playing field. Union exclusivity doesn't.

I and many others don't support the elimination of regional governments. Yet I support the new constitutional convention. The current constitution has flaws. I'm sure everyone, including yourself, know of something in the constitution they would like to change.

And I expressed my concerns regarding the current constitution in the first paragraph. I don't think a overall is needed.  Just a couple tweaks.

I applaud the passage of the Mass Transit bill in the Mideast Assembly. This will allow for the next steps towards having a region wide system of mass transit. While the best methods are still via automobile and by plane having alternative forms of transit will promote job growth and further economic prosperity towards our region. I urge ZuWo to sign this bill. This is something that is widely supported across party lines and can be done in a fiscally responsible manner.

Thank you Governor ZuWo for this appointment. I wish I were assuming these responsibilities under better circumstances but I will do my best for this brief term. Hopefully the people will elect me to a full term in its own right. There is more we can do to promote freedom and prosperity in the Mideast region. I know many don't see eye to eye with me but I'd like to ask for your help in this weeks election. A matter of national intrest has not caught me by surprise.There is talk of regional consolidation. I see this as a threat to our region and stand to defeat those who seek to rip the region asunder. If I were a member of any these other assemblies I would be incensed as well. So if you want to preserve this region regardless of party I ask for your help. It doesn't matter if you are a Federalist, Progressive Unionist, Liberal or pro-regionalist Labourite I ask for you help and vote in this weeks election.

Thank you and May God save and keep the Mideast and Atlasia

Congratulations on being appointed. Also just wanted to say that you have my full endorsement for the Assembly. :)

Congratulations JCL! :)

Congratulations Representative JCL! :)

Congrats, JCL! :)

As you have mine for your run for Lt.. Governor.

Fellow Mideasterners:

I thank you for your support in this race. It was a close one. Any one of the six of us could've been on the outside looking
in. Njall brought a good fight and I expect him to be back soon. Yet we have business to attend to. That business is to preserve this region against those who seek to rip it apart like ravenous wolves for the sake of centralizing power in one monolithic government. With that improving our alternative forms of transportation like a regional wide light rail system would provide a massive opportunity for job growth for all Atlasians.

Its also a momentous day as the Colts won in a fashion I didn't expect. The running game. But remember Coach Pagano, don't abandon the passing game. I want to see Luck have 300 yards passing too. That trade shocked me like anyone. Welcome to Colts nation Trent Richardson.

I'm not sure Atlasia is ready for this but an announcement may be forthcoming about a possible future plan.

This is not the possible announcement. This is a bill I will submit for action in the Mideast Assembly.

Allocution of funds from Pacific Crises Stimulus Fund Act
1. Three Billon Dollars is specified for the purpose of improving rail stations for regional mass transit.
   A. Contracts are to be offered to non-union and union rail infrastructure workers
   B. The following cities are considered for this phase of improvements
        1. Baltimore Maryland
        2. Richmond Virginia
        3. Charleston West Virginia
        4. Columbus Ohio
        5. Cleveland Ohio
        6. Indianapolis Indiana
        7. Chicago Illinois
        8. St. Louis Missouri
        9. Kansas City, Missouri

2. Seven Billion Dollars are to be specifically utilized in the form of various tax cuts and credits as the Assembly and Governor shall decide or designated for the Rainy Day Fund

         

Is it your intention to tie section 1 of your bill to the "Mideast High Speed Rail Act", JCL?

In addition to.

It's senate campaign time. If you have any questions just pop in and ask away.

Don't forget to vote in the Federalist senate primary tomorrow. That is if you are a Federalist. For those who are I'd like to give you a reason to vote for me.


I see a fundamental flaw in Atlasian foreign policy. The folks in power want to aid the enemies of one our most important allies and sanction that friend unjustly. That friend while not perfect is the only liberal democratic(with a parliament) country in its entire region. I'm talking about Israel. For those who think that I hate the sons of Ishmael you couldn't be further from the truth. I have Arab friends. They also support my view on Israel as they are Christ followers as well. For those who say Israel is practicing apartheid I have news for you. Look at Israel's neighbors and their treatment of religious minorities and women before you judge Israel's property laws. I ask our Jordanian friends to take in their Palestinian brothers for the sake of regional peace and goodwill. If in the senate I will work to undo the Pro-Muslim bent of this government. Former Senator Ben would be ashamed of the national governments actions towards his people.

I know many of you think my social views are extreme but I am a moderate compared to many evangelicals. As we are the Atlasian party of the center-right we all kinds of conservatives to join us. This party needs the social conservative as much as we need the economic conservative or the national security conservative or the moderate or the various strands of libertarian. No wing should be treated as less than any of the other wings. If that happens that part could break away and it cost the party as a whole.

Please, do tell, what enemies are we aiding?


Unjustly?


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None are authoritarian regimes and some are democracies. Only democracy? Not hardly.


"I don't hate blacks. I have black friends. But..."


Is it okay to murder someone if a couple of your neighbors do so as well?


As in annexation of the West Bank? On the table, but the Jordanians have expressed reluctance to the idea in the past.


Good luck.

None of the countries afford full religious freedom towards non-Muslims.
The West Bank belongs to Israel. What I'm saying is let the Jews have their rightful land. Turkey is fast turning away from the West and towards a more fundamentalist strand of Islam. Is the government acting like Obama and aiding the Arab Spring revolutionaries?

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Egyptian Muslims protecting a Christian church. Lebanon is also a state of great religious tolerance (in light of its demographics in particular), Turkey is extremely secular, and Morocco and Tunisia are also generally free.


The Administration rejects this position and views the West Bank in its pre-1967 entirety as the basis of negotiations for an independent and sovereign state of Palestine.


A major controversy in Turkey is over whether or not headscarves should be banned. Fundamentalist strand? Not hardly.

I don't know what you mean by specifically "aiding the Arab Spring revolutionaries". The fall of Mubarak/Qaddafi/Ben Ali were positive events and I hope that al-Assad joins their number soon, but we are not providing assistance to the FSA or the other assortment of less-than-friendly groups in the country (al-Nusra Front, ISIL).

I would have to say I was a little hesitant to vote for you as SoEA, thank you Secretary SJoyce for easing all of my doubts! :) 

The administration is wrong on its view of the West Bank. The 1967 War happened. Israel won and thus got the West Bank as part of the treaty ending the war. Atlasia must recgonize those results. Israel is the rightful and duly recognized national sovereign over the West Bank.

This is false. The West Bank, Golan Heights, and Gaza Strip are under Israeli military occupation. They were seized during warfare and are not legally part of the State of Israel. No treaty was signed following the war that legally recognized the occupied territories as part of the State of Israel. Israel is neither the rightful sovereign (that'd be the State of Palestine) nor the duly recognized (see UN recognition of the State of Palestine) sovereign (it's an occupying power) of the West Bank.

Israel won them in just warfare thus they are legally part of Israel. You're taking Obama's position which is totally the wrong side. Israel is the rightful sovereign of that land by the decree of Divine Providence. My previous statement is correct.

Right of conquest has been discredited since the Second World War.


That won't hold up in any court.

St. Louis MO


Fellow Atlasians,


I'm here today because there is a message and cause that being neglected in Atlasian politics. That message is that of conservatism.

As a Federalist one of our most dear causes is that of regional rights and decentralization. There is a movement out there that seeks to rip asunder the current regional make up and targets one region in particular for destruction. I can not stand by and let that happen. While I do understand the concerns over activity or the lack thereof, changing the regional structure in a wholesale manner is not a prudent course of action. Moving a few states around might be a more sensible move. That is if the states in question via a vote of their citizens accede to the proposal.

Also the issue of the family is one that needs to be reexamined. The centralizers want to dictate terms which are a hindrance to individuals of faith and conscience. Laws regarding marriage and divorce are better handled at the regional level. Regions should have more say in regards to adoption. The current arrangement simply doesn't work. Folks want to say social issues are off the table in total favor of liberalism. I don't conform to any truce on social issues. Why can't we have an honest discussion about these issues and have a fair and just compromise? Because social liberals and centralizers refuse to come to the table and discuss them openly and candidly.

The current administration and the candidates for president are making a colossal mistake in the realm of foreign policy. We don't sanction our friends and allies when they are working on internal infrastructure improvements because we think the land isn't theirs. In fact the land is theirs and for us to butt in on an internal issue is being a bad friend. That won't happen in my administration.

For these reasons I'm throwing my hat into the ring for President.

Dear Atlasians,


I would like to announce my VP declaration in this thread. I will be accepting write-ins as a VP for JCL's ticket because I share many of his views. To echo some of the key platform points, I think it's absolutely necessary to preserve 5 regions, because 3 regions would simply be too active and it would be impossible for me to be re-elected as a councilor. I would like to say a few words about the family issue as well. I think marriage is a terrible institution and federal bureaucrats should not be involved in such a messy affair, and since I don't support any kind of marriage it's best to leave it to the regions since they are very likely to be incompetent enough to  it up. Finally I would like to say it's absolutely necessary to increase aid to Israel,  since it's the only progressive state in the Middle east. As a labor party member & former union organizer in Atlasia I know that taking the strongest postition is always the best positon.

My fellow Atlasians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_wildcat

^this species is native to all of Israel but only parts of Jordan (which my running mate has "wisely" suggested is basically totally the same thing as Palestine) and the west bank. Thus the state of Israel is a kitty state and should exist. I oppose any policies that would threaten the existence of an independent feline state in Israel.

You are not my running mate kitteh.

Who are you thinking about for a running mate JCL?

Copycat.

Pingvin is my running mate.

I think I will write in JCL / Pingvin for presidential first preference because of your policy on regions.

The real ticket is JCL/Seatown

The ticket is JCL/Pingvin. The NM-AM who you align with has no place in my agenda.

I'm a deep red laborite again.

Don't forget to vote in the election this weekend.

Vote Federalist in the senate races. Rooney and Spiral are excellent candidates.
The presidential race has grown more intriguing with the write in candidacies of DallasFan/Jbrase and JCL/Pingvin.

Friends in Luimne and Matt are in the race as well. While I wish them the best I'm playing to win.

Looks like this election is humming along. Don't forget to vote and if you would, write in JCL/Pingvin for your Presidential ticket. Remember if you preference me for President only Pingvin and Matt are valid running mates for me. Not any of the leftists who think they can claim the spot.

Why would Matt from VT be considered your running mate? He didn't declare a write-in candidacy, nor did he write you in on his ballot.

It's my way of telling NM-AM who I'd rather have then any of their party.

Indianapolis, IN

It has been a wild ride the past week.  Going from a Senate campaign to a Presidential campaign wasn't an easy decision. The senate race is one I had been concentrating on for a serious amount of time and my efforts for whatever reason come up in vain. Lt. Governor Spiral will make a solid senator who will do the Mideast proud.

So why did I run an insurgent campaign for President? Not all voices were fairly heard in the electoral process. All the tickets were left of center and none of them merited my support in good conscience. The strict regionalist was not represented in any of the other tickets. The conservative voice was ignored again in the results. The party who professed to be of the center-right nominated a center-left candidate for President. There is no way you can avoid the President-elect Duke is of a left of center bent. The party power brokers chose a Faustian deal to win. Not only that, but conservatives hadn't been seen on the Federalist ticket in nearly a year with the possible exception of Hagrid's campaign. So I chose to run.

When Federalists prefer the Labour ticket over a Federalist write in ticket it makes me wonder where many of them really stand. I can understand you picking Duke over me but to pick the Labour ticket over one of your own in lower preferences is disrespectful.

Lumine, I hope to see you run again. Or maybe we have our coalition ticket sometime.

ZuWo, I hope you veto the repeal the Assembly's attempt to undo the ban on gender selective abortions.

Well.... I head back to my duties in the Assembly. This isn't my last Presidential campaign.

God Save Atlasia

I was using the British spelling on Labor/Labour.

A lot of folks may not have even been aware that you were running a write-in campaign, while others don't vote for write-in's out of principle. I would urge you not to be so quick to judge.

Because he likes the non-mainstream version of it. To be fair, I use it a lot, but I am part Brit'. :P

Point taken.
Nix, I'm an American cousin of the Baron of Berriew. You guys would love his views on transgendered people.

I've been waiting three months for a response, Assemblyman.

The same reason I oppose gay marriage.

Why do you oppose both of those?

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Faith and medical science thank you very much.

Medical science? Like, say, the AMA or APA? Both back gay adoption.

Do they also support Obamacare?

Don't avoid the question with irrelevant counter-questions about a nonexistent program.

JCL, you do realize medical science does not support you on this?

I'd still love to know your medical science sources.

You would have done better with Seatown as your running mate. Just saying...

It's relevant because Obamacare exists. So answer my question.




You are aware the AMA sometimes gets it wrong. I will get you a source. Are not Physiologists licensed medical professionals as well?

No it doesn't. Fritzcare does.

Do they run along the same lines?

First of all, I would like to get a factual report from you about this. Secondly why do you really see gay people as not fit to raise children? I know gay people have every right to adopt a child because they are good parents. Think about this, JCL: If you are gay and you want a kid, you need to go through a long process of security checks, home visits, and they have to go through all these processes to adopt someone. Now, if they don't want kids, they can't because well gay sex is not able to produce children. Now, JCL, I think you don't realize how being gay truly works. What actual science has pointed out is that being gay is not a choice, but even if it is, why are you so opposed to gay people adopting?

Why do you feel as if a gay person isn't enough of a human being to raise a child?

Don't give me this faith and science bull because first of all, science does not support your claims, it will never support your claims, your claims have no base. And I'm a pretty religious person, I believe in God, Jesus, Mary, etc. and I know being gay is not a choice, I know that gay people are people, who if they want a kid, they should be able to raise one, I know that.

Your claims that gay people are unfit to raise a child is unbelievable, homophobic, and if one of your children is gay, I will pray for them, because you obviously are against human rights.

There is no freedom until we're equal. All of us. Gay, straight, white, black, Christian, Muslim.

And that you are against equality, against other people for who they love, against others who want to raise a child that a straight couple couldn't take care of, or that child of a mother or father who had died, it sickens me to my core.

I hope you have a wonderful day, JCL.

JCL, stop pretending you know about these things. You don't.

Not at all.

Still government ran healthcare is antithetical to individual liberty.

I want you to Google Dr. James Dobson on gay adoption go to page two and click on the scienceblog.com web page. It mentions noted Sociologist David Popenoe of Rutgers University and his research on the subject of gay adoption.  It basically shows why a child does best in a home with a mom and a dad.

I'm sorry, JCL, but I have to disagree with you here. Would a kid do better with a mother and father? Sure. A kid would also likely do better in a private school than public, in a wealthier home, in a more urban area, etc. This isn't about whether heterosexual couples are more capable than homosexual couples.

JCL, do you oppose adoptions by single parents?

No, they don't...

 He was distorting reports JCL. He was hijacking them for a political agenda. (https://www.au.org/church-state/september-2006-church-state/people-events/dobson%E2%80%99s-fof-distorts-research-says-nyu)

I was raised by a single parent. My mother from 3-11 and my dad after that. While I think any situation besides the two parent married heterosexual couple is less than ideal,  if the circumstances were right a single could. There's this young lady who became a missionary in Africa. I believe she adopted some 14 or so African kids. The story is talked about in the book Kisses from Katie. .

So you have no problems with single parents, but gay parents are unacceptable because a child does better with a mother and a father?

He doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that this sociologist is distorting reports and lying. I mean, who cares about facts right? As long as it makes your cause seem worthy, facts don't truly matter. (https://www.au.org/church-state/september-2006-church-state/people-events/dobson%E2%80%99s-fof-distorts-research-says-nyu)

If your union can't produce new life, you don't get to adopt. I gave you one instance where a single could do it. The circumstances of my life from 3-adulthood of how I was raised wouldn't be close to the ideal situation but it is miles ahead of a gay couple could ever offer.

Why, exactly? I thought the argument was that children need both a father figure and a mother figure? So why, for example, would just having a mother be preferable to having two father figures?

In the original, non distorted research by Judith Stacey, not the distorted article by your prized sociologist, it explained why two parents, no matter their sexual preference, is usually better than one parent. The original author of these documents stated that

1. If this is your belief, then women who can't have children shouldn't be allowed to adopt.
2. Back it up with more than disproven research.

So women and men who do not have the ability to have a child together can't adopt either?

Oh and I think that a gay couple would show much more appreciation for their children and wouldn't discriminate them because of their sexual preferences.

Another thing: gay people still have to go through months of checks for the child, caring for the child, adoption procedures, they would be as good or even better than straight parents who had a child through sex.

Heterosexual unions have the potential to create new life. Sometimes couples in those unions for whatever reason aren't able to have biological children of their own. Allowing homosexual adoption is complete and total discrimination against those heterosexual married couples. Why do you think I fight against abortion so heavily besides that of my faith based convictions? If I were married I will tell you this..... Her and I would heavily consider adoption in addition to having children of our own. I have always been an advocate for adoption and will always be. How can a gay couple be better than a traditional one in the rearing of children? I can understand what the kid in a situation like this is going through because I know what a custody fight is like. Don't you think I considered other options on who to live with other than my biological parents? I had a couple certain options because of other families that I had close contact with. Needless to say I chose my dad. Not just because I could have a chance at a better situation and could actually have considerably more freedom as a kid, but ultimately my brother and I thought it best that we stuck together.

Yay you answered!


Yes, exactly. The fact that gay people can raise a child is COMPLETE discrimination against straight people. Yes. 100% correct.

No, what's really going on is that gay people are raising children that straight people couldn't care for and these children finally have a home to live in. A family.

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And the funny thing? You argue that same sex couples will damage the lives of children they raise, but not one couple conceived a child by accident. Every single gay and lesbian couple who decided to have a child must plan for it, in great detail, whether it is a gay couple who needs to find a surrogate mother, or a lesbian couple who needs to find a sperm donor, or either going through the very difficult process of adoption. Now it's great that you would consider adoption, but every single child brought into the home of a gay or lesbian couple is wanted. And you should know that.

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Have a great and blessed Thanksgiving holiday.  Its gonna be crazy in the land of JCL (not that it hasn't been since the tornado ) thus I'm going to be gone from the site till at least Saturday so I can totally keep focused on the remaing 19 hours I have on my work schedule for the week.

Till thn I'm on loa.

I have returned from some much needed time away to recharge from putting in 95 hours in the past two weeks at my RL job. So I've heard some rumor that I'm running for At-Large Senate. I'm flattered that I made the polls for this race but I'm considering my options and I'll have a decision by the end of the day Sunday Indiana time.

is that normal Indiana or those rebellious western border counties' time?

The western counties are right. It's normal Indiana that's in rebellion (including my own county). Indiana needs to go back to not changing their clocks or go to CST.

Thank you for the mentions in various polls regarding the At-Large Senate race. I make no bones about it. I do plan on running for the Senate again. This time however is not the right time. Real life gets hectic at this time of the year and I need to devote my energy to that.

 I also hand my endorsements to Tmth and Shua for my first two preferences in the At-Large race. Tmth brought me into the game and I brought with me the Tea Party wing of the Atlasian Right and social conservatives. Shua is also a long time active Atlasian whose record is worthy of a position of merit in the Atlasian body politick.

I will be running in the Janurary Mideast elections for certain. What position will be decided upon my return from my end of the year trip to Kansas City for the Onething Conference, as well as slipping out to Wichita to see family.

No matter your worldview humanity lost a great leader in the cause of individual freedom and racial equality this week. Nelson Mandela was a near mirror of the story of Joseph. From prison to the place of power. He will be missed.

I appreciate your endorsement and wish you the best. :)

I'll be auditioning for The Voice this Feburary Lord willing.

That's awesome! I'm really hoping you make it! :)

Anything could happen with auditions like this.

You mean for real?  Good luck! :D

I tried out for American Idol several years ago.

Happiest of Christmases to you all. JCL will return New Years Day with more conservatarian shenanigans and a campaign announcement.

I'm back from my Christmas vacation and am happy to announce a double campaign. I'm running for assembly in the Mideast in January and for Mideast Senator in Feburary. We need assemblymen and senators who will fight vigorously for the regions against a ever increasing centralization of power in Nyman. We can have responsible laws regarding the controversial issues that divide us. Needless to say there is a law that needs to return to active status in the Mideast. That is the law banning abortions by reason of gender. Yes I understand this is a contentious issue, but a baby souldn't be aborted just they're not the desired gender of the prospective parents. Also fathers should have the right to fight an abortion by their female partner. Its not fair that the father doesn't have the  right to have a say in the matter. That has to change.

Thank you and let the fun begin.

Endorsed for Assembly! :) It looks like we are going to have a primary for the Senate!!

Thanks for the endorsement Senator. I urge our citizens in the arreas affected by #snowstormhercules to stay indoors if at all possible. Let emergency workers get the snow cleared and the temps improve.

Looks like a challenger of the left has emerged for the upcome Mideast Senate race. Snowstalker will be a formitible opponent which means I need Federalists, D-R's and my friends in the Progressive Union to stand with me should I receive the Federalist nomination. I know some left leaning Federalists balk at giving me their vote. I can understand that. There are bigger issues than just political ideology. I see hope in Atlasia for stronger regions and more active and lively debate. Stand with me and I will fight for those things as well as your freedoms.

Fellow Mideasterners,

The Assembly and gubernatorial election should be starting shortly. Regardless of political view I encourage you to be active and vote. Encourage your fellow citizens to vote as well that we may truly be a government of for and by the people of this fine region. I would like your votes as would my fellow Federalist Party slate and hifly.

The voting has ended and results for the Mideast assembly and governors race will be up soon. This looks like it could be a barnburner.

Congratulations on winning a seat in the Mideast Assembly! :)

Congratulations dude!

Major Congratulations! It's great to have a socially conservative majority in the Mideast Assembly once again!

Thanks guys. I do want to hear ideas from the people on how we can serve your good in a better way.

Congratulations JCL!

Congratulations, JCL!

Thank you fellow Mideasterners for investing your trust in me to do the business of the people of this fine region. If you have any legislative proposals you would like me to consider bringing to the Assembly just leave them here in the office.

Congratulations. :D

I will be issuing a statement regarding the talks of merging the Pacific and the Midwest regions into a Western super region by the end of the weekend.

Im asking Snowstalker not to withdraw. The people need to have two ideas out there to choose from.

I welcome RileyKeaton to the Mideast Assembly. Spiral made an excellent decision in his replacement of now senator DC.

I'm honestly not sure regarding the idea of merging the two western regions into one government. I will be watching this situation as it develops so as to ascertain my own thoughts.

I'm not here to issue a concession just some words of wisdom to the Federalist Party. This party was founded on conservatism that can win in Atlasia. I'm not talking this moderate brand the party has been going into. We are not the Peoples Party that Duke had founded a couple years ago.  This conservatism I'm talking about is one that takes chances and doesn't care what people think. Have we sacrificed our principals just for the sake of winning? That is a sad indictment I have to make. Doesn't activity matter? ReaganFan was more active on the campaign trail and brought a better message. Duke was about a status quo and having a boring run to the Presidential election. That doesn't mean Duke isn't going to do good things by conservatives. However I have to say this. Boring is not what I came here for. I came here for lively, civil and passionate debate and the Federalist primaries have shown that that lively, civil and passionate debate of issues isn't wanted. However boring is ok. I will not accept this. The party blew it on the Presidential front massively.

With regards to the Mideast race I can't say I'm pleased. I was expecting a competitive race where I had a strong chance of winning and I was undermined. Not by my governor and should be VP candidate Spiral.  I knew he was going to appoint DC and was ok with that. Yes DC and I are closer on the political diamond scales than what Duke and I will ever be, the establishment wing chose a wrong fear instead of taking a chance that I would be true to the words I said in the convention thread. That's why I was undermined yet again. That's four times now. When will the Atlasian right that isn't moderate will be backed as loyally as we back you who are? That time should be now. Not two months from now. Now.

What is this fear that you have for not supporting conservatives for high office? Fear of losing or fear of taking chances and proposing bold steps to make Atlasia even greater. Needless to say I declaring for At-Large Senate. Conservatarian views need to be expressed in the senate.

It's sad to see Tmth depart for now. He brought me into the game and as such I feel I could continue his work in the Senate. Yes we found ourselves on differing sides on occasion but a respect was always there. With this I announce my candidacy for At-Large Senate to finish his term. This does not cancel out my candidacy for a full term in its own right.

May God and Dave bless Tmth and Atlasia

If I may, Mr. JCL, I would like to ask you a non-Atlasia related question.  That is, will we catch you on The Voice this week? :)

The auditions for this cycle were back over the summer. Unfortunately bad weather in my area kept me from auditioning a couple weeks ago :(

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that.  Hopefully next season.

There's also the Texaco Country Showdown as well coming up as well.

Wow. Looks like we've got a jungle for a special election. I know some think that I'm getting in in the special election. They would be right. I respect Simfan, Deus and the others running but it just feels like some matters of policy are being neglected. Through this quick campaign I will try to explain these points from a place of compassion towards those who don't agree. I'll be presenting my platform soon.

What policies do you think are neglected? Banning homosexuality and instituting a flat tax because Exodus said so?

Ending Atlasian sanctions against Israel and utilizing our vast energy supply to wean Europe off Russia and us off the Middle East.

I don't want to ban homosexuality. Just "gay marriage". On tax policy you need to look at what I've proposed a little bit further. My Detroit Plan is a flattened version of the Clinton era Tax rates.

Israel deserves to be sanctioned at least a little bit for their occupation of Palestine. And what energy would you use to gain energy independence? Oil and natural gas or wind and solar or both? And why would you ban gay civil unions (we abolished government recognition of marriage a while ago) for a non-religious reason (remember, we don't do things based on religion here)? And what programs would you cut to make up for the revenue decrease your tax plan would bring?

It's Israel's land. The Palestinians need to assimilate. Read the book The Israeli Solution for a better understanding on how it works.  My energy policy is all of the above with further emphasis on oil/natural gas. 

It's not programs that get cut it's one program. Fritzcare. The government is getting out of the healthcare business.

1. It's not Israel's land. They stole it in 1967.

2. Why the emphasis on non-renewable resources?

3. Would you leave the poor to die on the street?

Do we even have sanctions on Israel currently? I thought TNF introduced a bill that would do that because we didn't have them already.

Regardless, sanctions strike me as a really bad idea. Do we really expect Israeli citizens to vote for candidates that share our ideals when we're making economic life much harder in their country? If anything, sanctions would isolate and further the persecution complex of the Israeli government, which would make them even more likely to undertake aggressive actions against Palestinians.

1. No they won it in a just war. The Arab countries attacked them because the Arabs wanted to in the words of Fmr. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, "Drive them into the sea" and the Arab nations got soundly beaten. Call it spoils of war or divine mandate but Israel is the legal and rightful sovereign of that land. They are not an illegal occupier.

2. That's what our European friends need. If we're gonna not gonna use it shouldn't we sale it to those who would while we retain rights on the land.

3. The poor wouldn't be left to die. Private medical savings accounts would come into play in matters of healthcare.

There is a serious anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian lobby in the Atlasian left. Iirc they put sanctions regarding defense tech.

Ezekiel 23? I thought the left was criticizing my view of the flat tax from Exodus 23. I firmly agree with the secular reasons brought up by libertarian and conservative  economists.

1. Israel struck first in the Six Day War (assuming that is the war we're discussing). The spoils of war is a 19th-century idea for a 21st-century world based on fairness and equity, not conquest.

2. How do you know what they want? Are they shunning Atlasian wind and solar?

3. What if private insurance and MSAs aren't enough, as they have proven not to be in that weird alternate universe I visited once (you might like it, it's relatively right-wing).

And we are criticizing your Exodus 23 thing. We also want to know what policies you might support because of Ezekiel 23.

1.  Israel believed they were under severe threat of attack. (Arabs were mounting on all sides)

2. I honestly don't know how Atlasian wind power could help Europe. Solar can because haven't we gave them many of our ideas regarding solar panel technology. I'm not shunning them

3. I didn't say my ideas are perfect but the current format is tantamount to socialized medicine and that simply is immoral.

Ezekiel 23, it's a parable useful for individual and national morality. However I have no policy ideas that are inspired from this passage of scripture.