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Title: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: krazen1211 on February 21, 2012, 12:23:51 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/us/justices-to-hear-case-on-affirmative-action-in-higher-education.html?_r=1

The court’s decision in the new case holds the potential to undo an accommodation reached in the Supreme Court’s 5-to-4 decision in 2003 in Grutter v. Bollinger: that public colleges and universities could not use a point system to boost minority enrollment but could take race into account in vaguer way to ensure academic diversity.


Well, soon to be overruled 5-3.

Lower court opinion.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/09/09-50822-CV0.wpd.pdf


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 27, 2012, 06:48:21 PM
The SCrt already feels differently when it comes to quotos as oppose to separate but equal, they aren't the same.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: hawkeye59 on March 30, 2012, 04:18:52 PM
Good. I hope they overturn Grutter.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Frodo on April 21, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
When do arguments begin, and how soon can we expect a ruling on this case?   


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: hawkeye59 on May 16, 2012, 06:02:57 PM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 16, 2012, 07:50:39 PM

Don't wanna word it this harshly, but this. AA is noble in nature, but is essentially reverse discrimination.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: So rightwing that I broke the Political Compass! on June 14, 2012, 04:35:52 AM
Of course they'll only ban affirmative action based on race. Affirmative action for athletes and the children of alumni/celebrities/politicians will remain in place.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 14, 2012, 09:03:25 AM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on June 14, 2012, 12:26:17 PM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Supersonic on June 15, 2012, 06:40:10 AM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Kushahontas on June 15, 2012, 10:25:40 AM
Of course they'll only ban affirmative action based on race. Affirmative action for athletes and the children of alumni/celebrities/politicians will remain in place.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Frodo on October 13, 2012, 03:36:20 PM
Why is there not more discussion on this?  Or does everyone just assume it is a foregone conclusion that the Supreme Court will do away with -once and for all- racial and ethnic preferences in college admissions? 


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Vosem on October 13, 2012, 05:00:03 PM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Bacon King on October 13, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
I can understand arguments in principle both for and against affirmative action in college admissions, but I really don't get how opposition to it can really be such an important thing for people. I mean, it's not like America's elite universities aren't still lily white, and it's not like any of you are getting your applications rejected in favor of a black guy. Where's this passion against it coming from?


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: J. J. on October 14, 2012, 12:27:29 PM
The legacy issue is an important one, IMO.  Are the legacies now ethnically balanced?


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: DC Al Fine on October 14, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
I can understand arguments in principle both for and against affirmative action in college admissions, but I really don't get how opposition to it can really be such an important thing for people. I mean, it's not like America's elite universities aren't still lily white, and it's not like any of you are getting your applications rejected in favor of a black guy. Where's this passion against it coming from?

People have sued because blacks/hispanics have gotten in with lower grades and SAT scores while they were rejected. Although whites don't get hit that bad by it; it's Asians who really get screwed by it.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: DreamTheater on December 20, 2012, 01:07:28 AM
This


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on December 20, 2012, 03:10:43 AM
Affirmative action still has a place in America.  I have black friends who tell me that when they go to an interview and the interviewer realizes they're black, they are sometimes in a state of shock and really uncomfortable (and when that happens the interview doesn't last more than 10 minutes and they never hear back from the company).  On the other hand, the way the system is abused by people who have never faced discrimination in their life is ridiculous and causes a backlash towards people who are at no fault for any of that.


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: TNF on December 20, 2012, 09:36:32 AM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: RogueBeaver on December 20, 2012, 08:55:25 PM


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on December 20, 2012, 08:57:26 PM

...but not until after this Latino applies to college. :P

(I don't even know if I'm serious or not)


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: SPC on December 20, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Odds on Roberts declaring that affirmative action is "just a tax"?


Title: Re: Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Affirmative Action Case
Post by: bedstuy on December 20, 2012, 11:53:23 PM
Odds on Roberts declaring that affirmative action is "just a tax"?

Roberts is not going to be the swing vote on this case.  Look at his opinion in Parents Involved, he is not on the side of affirmative action.