Talk Elections

So Jack isn't assassinated; does Barry have a chance at winning, etc?  You know what to do.

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Growing economy+popular domestic reforms=still a landslide. Barry does a little better, though.

Would he have a shot at California at least?

California's a swing state at this point. In a landslide, I doubt he can win.

Let's see here: a pragmatic Catholic Democrat versus "Extremism in Defense of Liberty is No Vice?"

Sure, it's not a Johnson landslide but for some reason I doubt Goldwater gets over 200 EVs.

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Even then, I'd give Jack IA, NH, TN, and maybe OK and ND.

But the GOP would certainly do better in Congress.  What if he completely abandoned his own campaign, knowing he could lose, and focused on helping Congressional Repubs?  How well would they do?

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Interesting map, but I can't see a fifteen percent swing from 1960 in just 4 years.

while it's true that map is about 57-42 versus a near tie 4 years earlier, Nixon and AuH2O were very different candidates. I don't think the difference in performance we saw was mostly about JFK's assasination or LBJ's appeal in some parts, though both played a role.

That map. Both the PWC and postwar liberalism are at their apex in the early to mid '60s. Flat taxation, privatizing Social Security and most governmental corporations, calling Medicare a "hoax"... none of that stuff flies until the '90s.

I thought 80's.  Alright what about tailoring his speeches and running in 68 as per Han's TL?

Landslide for John F. Kennedy.

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It gets closer but Goldwater loses 54-46. He wins traditional Republican states and the south where segregation was still popular. The country wouldn't have been as behind the Democratic ticket if not for the tragedy of JFK though.