Talk Elections

each time I write a poll thread, I have to repeat the same question, so, let's go...

for wich one would you vote ?

If I was to vote in the French elections, if Hollande was safely up in the polls (which he is now), I would strongly consider voting for Mélenchon in the first round.

You should have included all candidates. ;)

They're all awful. But Joly just because it's cool with a Norwegian running for French president.

I actually quite like Joly. It's really a shame she's such a pathetic excuse of a campaigner.

Using what little I was able to find out
on short notice, in order of preference:

1 - François Hollande
2 - Eva Joly
3 - Philippe Poutou
4 - Jean-Luc Mélenchon
5 - Corinne Lepage
6 - François Bayrou
7- Nathalie Arthaud
8 - Dominique de Villepin
9 - Nicolas Sarkozy
10 - Nicolas Dupont-Aignan
11 - Marine Le Pen

Well, I'll do mine. I also added the 4 withdrawn candidates.

1 - Hollande
2 - Joly
3 - Lepage
4 - Mélenchon
(Chevènement - withdrawn)
5 - Bayrou
(Morin - withdrawn)

This is the limit of candidates I consider "acceptable". All the following are absolutely awful in my book and I would never want to vote for any.

6 - Dupont-Aignan
7 - Villepin
8 - Poutou
9 - Arthaud
(Nihous - withdrawn)
(Boutin - withdrawn)
9657 - Sarkozy
10⁹⁹ - Le Pen

Hollande, though without much in the way of enthusiasm.

Hollande for me.  A good vote in the first round should give him a bit of momentum for the run-off.

If Bayrou have conditions to get into run-off by election day, I would go with him. He's very likeable and I don't like personally Hollande (I'm a Royaliste - he had to destroy Royal from inside in 2007 to be nominee). In a AV election, Chevenement would be my first choice, as left-wing nationalist.
With current candidates:
1- Mélenchon
2- Arthaud
3- Poutou
4- Dupont-Aignan
5- Bayrou
6- Le Pen
7- Le Page
8- Villepin
9- Hollande
10- Joly
11- Sarkozy

Sarko sans doute.

Ugh.

One of the Greens/Leftists in the 1st round, Hollande in the 2nd.

Both Civic Nationalism and participative public management appeals heavily to the Brazilian Left. But I think Rod is failing to realize Royal is quite nearer to Blair than Hollande. For what I've read from him, this shouldn't be too much appealing.

#1 the most credible socialist, so Mélenchon, but Poutou/Arthuad had he not ran
#2 Green, aka Joly
#3 "Socialist", aka Hollande
#4 Unappealing liberal aka Bayrou

working class organic Philippe Poutou of the New Anti-Capitalist Party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Poutou
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Anticapitalist_Party


but sad that my boy Besancenot is not standing.

ouch ! I did'nt ("didn't"?, arrrr, never remember!) atlasforum members were so left-wingers. 75 % at minima for left candidates !

Or leftwingers care more 'bout international politics.

Royal isn't really "nearer to Blair", because, well, she's nowhere in the politcal spectrum. She doesn't hold a single consistent view, and her rhetoric is a weird mix of inconsistent populism coupled with a few platitudes and the demeanor of a sect leader.

So, quite like late period Blair then.

Bayrou.

Yeah I know...

People actually think Royal supports participative democracy or whatever that bullsh**t idea is called? She runs her region like her personal fiefdom and has shown that she doesn't give a sh**t about her allies. Royal is just a Palin-like populist whose only main difference from Palin is that she's less mentally unstable and slightly more intelligent (but only to a limited extent). Her fans, by and large, are also mentally unstable and of limited intelligence.

Didn't = the ' is for where the letter's missing (not the space). :)

I know, once I'm not depending on media to get information from France. But this is not how the local press presented her in 2007 (and TV5 also did It, to some extent) so you gotta figure how people perceives her out of France, not how she really is.

Le Pen has more votes than Sarko...

Some American righties who think Sarko is a lib'rul ?

Must be the Forum Barbara Rosenkranz hacks:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=107855.0

(the vote on top of the page)

:P

Bayrou. Hollande is bland, and Sarkozy is too much of an opportunist.

LOL, and then people say the forum is biased to the left...

So you choose the bland opportunist. Makes sense.

Is there any centrist french politician who doesn't fit that description?

He looks much better than the three clowns leading right now.

MARINE!
Only decent candidate here.

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Wow, you're so in touch with news.

Mélenchon.

You do realize that besides wanting to return to the gold standard and her xenophobia, she is quite left-wing?

and maybe they are also more beautiful, more clever, more gentle, more loyal


or not ^^

She supports the gold standard?

I've heard she does.

Still LOL @ her being "quite left-wing".

Protectionism isn't a conservative policy.

Do you anything about France?

I think he's already answered that question, don't you?

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ROFL

Haha, knew it was going to be some laissez faire bollocks.

Fine I'm wrong and everyone else in this thread is right. MLP is a conservative on every single issue.

I would vote for Hollande but not very enthusiastically. But he needs momentum from the first round and the political Left needs to unite if it wants Sarkozy out of Office.

Maybe more gentle. Sometimes. Definitely not more loyal. Neither more clever. But take a surfing on Die Linke female ranks... I've never noticed any right, center or center left outfit with that appeal, on average. Add some Danish, Brazilian and Chilean, you'll know why I always loved going to UNE's congresses. Just piss them off with some bourgeois talking and they get really wild.