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Title: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: RI on March 11, 2012, 11:18:38 PM
New Poll: Mississippi President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-03-11 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2820120311108)

Summary:
Gingrich:
33%
Romney:
31%
Santorum:
27%
Paul:
7%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (https://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/179058457918443520)



Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 11, 2012, 11:20:32 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 11, 2012, 11:21:17 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 11, 2012, 11:22:13 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.

They tweeted that the sample was 500 likely voters?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Eraserhead on March 11, 2012, 11:22:22 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.

^^^ Seriously. How did he make the numbers up?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: RI on March 11, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.

They tweeted that the sample was 500 likely voters?

I try to change it (the voter count) after it's released. It's not a big deal.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 11, 2012, 11:24:27 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.

They tweeted that the sample was 500 likely voters?

Do you iron your socks?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 11, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
Don't use Twitter as a source for this.  Wait until the actual poll release is issued.  We want actual numbers, not numbers you just made up.

Uh...he didn't just make up numbers, dude. It's from PPP's Twitter. Chill out.

They tweeted that the sample was 500 likely voters?

I try to change it (the voter count) after it's released. It's not a big deal.

You try, but you don't every time.  Dave wants complete info for the polls, not just "fast" entry.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Alcon on March 11, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
Ironically/hilariously, PPP just tweeted the sample size.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: RI on March 11, 2012, 11:37:25 PM
Ironically/hilariously, PPP just tweeted the sample size.

And the polls have been updated.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: RI on March 12, 2012, 12:43:21 AM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 12, 2012, 12:44:46 AM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.

I get why some might find it offensive to say things like "joke state" but things like this make it sooooooooooooooo hard not to...


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Eraserhead on March 12, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.

Suddenly, Alabama seems almost reasonable...


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 12, 2012, 01:38:04 AM
I saw the polls for the Super Tuesday southern states back in 2008. Besides Insider Advantage all the other outfits (including PPP) screwed them pretty badly. I remember they were showing McCain winning comfortably Georgia and Alabama when in reality he lost them to Huckabee.
Can someone explain to me why the Deep South is so difficult to poll?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Volrath50 on March 12, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
I saw the polls for the Super Tuesday southern states back in 2008. Besides Insider Advantage all the other outfits (including PPP) screwed them pretty badly. I remember they were showing McCain winning comfortably Georgia and Alabama when in reality he lost them to Huckabee.
Can someone explain to me why the Deep South is so difficult to poll?

A significant portion of people don't have telephones because they think they devil makes them talk?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 09:39:28 AM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Hash on March 12, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
If their tweet on Saturday saying Frothy was so far back behind the top 2, then Frothy must have done well on Sunday's calls.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: ajb on March 12, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?
There is a big age gap on these questions. For example, on interracial marriage, voters under 45 support it 70-23, while voters over 65 oppose it 43-35. Given that gap, I'm guessing the numbers would be better for voters under 30, if the poll had aggregated them.
In other words, the civil rights movement really did make a difference to how people think, even for conservative whites in Mississippi. It's just that that work isn't quite finished yet.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 12, 2012, 10:40:50 AM
If their tweet on Saturday saying Frothy was so far back behind the top 2, then Frothy must have done well on Sunday's calls.

Bingo


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: SPQR on March 12, 2012, 12:33:25 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?
There is a big age gap on these questions. For example, on interracial marriage, voters under 45 support it 70-23, while voters over 65 oppose it 43-35. Given that gap, I'm guessing the numbers would be better for voters under 30, if the poll had aggregated them.
In other words, the civil rights movement really did make a difference to how people think, even for conservative whites in Mississippi. It's just that that work isn't quite finished yet.

That's better...but it's still frightening,to say the least,that 23% of voters under 45 think that interracial marriage should be illegal.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Tender Branson on March 12, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?
There is a big age gap on these questions. For example, on interracial marriage, voters under 45 support it 70-23, while voters over 65 oppose it 43-35. Given that gap, I'm guessing the numbers would be better for voters under 30, if the poll had aggregated them.
In other words, the civil rights movement really did make a difference to how people think, even for conservative whites in Mississippi. It's just that that work isn't quite finished yet.

That's better...but it's still frightening,to say the least,that 23% of voters under 45 think that interracial marriage should be illegal.

That's probably the case in a few other countries too. I certainly know there are many Austrian parents who would ::) if their daughter would date a black dude or a Muslim dude, let alone marry one of them.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 12, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?
There is a big age gap on these questions. For example, on interracial marriage, voters under 45 support it 70-23, while voters over 65 oppose it 43-35. Given that gap, I'm guessing the numbers would be better for voters under 30, if the poll had aggregated them.
In other words, the civil rights movement really did make a difference to how people think, even for conservative whites in Mississippi. It's just that that work isn't quite finished yet.

That's better...but it's still frightening,to say the least,that 23% of voters under 45 think that interracial marriage should be illegal.

That's probably the case in a few other countries too. I certainly know there are many Austrian parents who would ::) if their daughter would date a black dude or a Muslim dude, let alone marry one of them.

No! That can't be! Not on the englightened continent!

This is clearly limited to the Deep South of the U.S. 


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on March 12, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Quote
No! That can't be! Not on the englightened continent!

This is clearly limited to the Deep South of the U.S.

And from Austria of all places. I don't know anybody who hates inferior races who's from Austria.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Tender Branson on March 12, 2012, 01:10:42 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?
There is a big age gap on these questions. For example, on interracial marriage, voters under 45 support it 70-23, while voters over 65 oppose it 43-35. Given that gap, I'm guessing the numbers would be better for voters under 30, if the poll had aggregated them.
In other words, the civil rights movement really did make a difference to how people think, even for conservative whites in Mississippi. It's just that that work isn't quite finished yet.

That's better...but it's still frightening,to say the least,that 23% of voters under 45 think that interracial marriage should be illegal.

That's probably the case in a few other countries too. I certainly know there are many Austrian parents who would ::) if their daughter would date a black dude or a Muslim dude, let alone marry one of them.

No! That can't be! Not on the englightened continent!

This is clearly limited to the Deep South of the U.S. 

Sure.

I guess about 5-15% of the Austrian population (mainly the Nazi wing of the FPÖ).

Those people have a strong pure-blood mentality.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 12, 2012, 01:12:57 PM
There's a non-Nazi wing of the FPÖ?


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Tender Branson on March 12, 2012, 01:16:36 PM
There's a non-Nazi wing of the FPÖ?

Yeah, the protest voters.

You can consider the 15% who voted for Presidential candidate Barbara Rosenkranz in 2010 as the "Nazi wing".

The other 10-15% (the FPÖ currently polls between 25-30%) are protest voters who hate the coalition and would never vote for the Greens either. People like my parents for example.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 12, 2012, 01:50:08 PM
29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.

This country scares me sometimes.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Politico on March 12, 2012, 02:14:16 PM
We all know what some folks in Mississippi and Alabama are like. But I don't think folks from Italy and Austria, or most anywhere, should be looking down on folks from Missisippi and Alabama, IMHO. Every state has its black mark, I suppose.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Meeker on March 12, 2012, 03:54:19 PM
I would be interested to see the interracial marriage poll in a state outside the Deep South; somewhere like California or Massachusetts. PPP only seems to ask that question in the Deep South.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: The Mikado on March 12, 2012, 04:06:33 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?

There's a pretty old running joke (probably 50 years old now) that any time a state ranks 49th in the country in something, some local politician sarcastically says that the state should change its motto to "Thank God for Mississippi."  Mississippi's proud tradition in being last in the country in everything makes everywhere else look good by comparison.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Oakvale on March 12, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
At least Gingrich winning AL and MS will nominally keep this race going even though Romney's got it wrapped up. I'll take what I can get.

THANK YOU BASED GOD.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Adam Griffin on March 12, 2012, 06:39:08 PM
I saw the polls for the Super Tuesday southern states back in 2008. Besides Insider Advantage all the other outfits (including PPP) screwed them pretty badly. I remember they were showing McCain winning comfortably Georgia and Alabama when in reality he lost them to Huckabee.
Can someone explain to me why the Deep South is so difficult to poll?

I would chalk it up to a more fickle mindset when it comes to voters from this area, many of whom change their minds while in the voting booth. There's a divide between how conservatives and progressives pick their candidates and stances; conservatives have a greater tendency to "feel" what they know and their gut may change its mind several times throughout the course of a Republican primary.

I think that the overall trend ("feeling" your way through the process) among conservatives originates from the Deep South's style of choosing candidates and politicians and since the Republican Party's platform is essentially steeped in Deep South politics, it has - to a lesser extent - proliferated the entire conservative dialog.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Volrath50 on March 12, 2012, 09:39:37 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?

There's a pretty old running joke (probably 50 years old now) that any time a state ranks 49th in the country in something, some local politician sarcastically says that the state should change its motto to "Thank God for Mississippi."  Mississippi's proud tradition in being last in the country in everything makes everywhere else look good by comparison.

Hey, they are #1 in plenty of measures too! Like teen pregnancies and obesity!


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: ajb on March 12, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?

There's a pretty old running joke (probably 50 years old now) that any time a state ranks 49th in the country in something, some local politician sarcastically says that the state should change its motto to "Thank God for Mississippi."  Mississippi's proud tradition in being last in the country in everything makes everywhere else look good by comparison.

Hey, they are #1 in plenty of measures too! Like teen pregnancies and obesity!

It's only seventh for divorce, mind you. Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alaska, Alabama and Kentucky are the top five there.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 12, 2012, 11:59:00 PM
Ironically/hilariously, PPP just tweeted the sample size.

And the polls have been updated.

But you never included the poll question.  So, like I said, wait for the full release to come out.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Sam Spade on March 13, 2012, 07:03:55 AM
I saw the polls for the Super Tuesday southern states back in 2008. Besides Insider Advantage all the other outfits (including PPP) screwed them pretty badly. I remember they were showing McCain winning comfortably Georgia and Alabama when in reality he lost them to Huckabee.
Can someone explain to me why the Deep South is so difficult to poll?

No party registration is the most likely culprit, in that a lot of rural voters still identify as Dems, and might get knocked out of the sample.

That being said, Huckabee was from the South, Newt is, and Santorum isn't.  In case we haven't forgotten.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on March 13, 2012, 07:05:19 AM
I will laugh so hard if he becomes the ABR again.


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Colbert on March 13, 2012, 08:39:13 AM

Gingrich leads early voters 38-29-20 (G-R-S). 52% think Obama is a Muslim, 12% Christian, 36% Unsure. 66% do not believe in evolution. 29% think interracial marriage should be illegal.
Why does such a state even exist?

There's a pretty old running joke (probably 50 years old now) that any time a state ranks 49th in the country in something, some local politician sarcastically says that the state should change its motto to "Thank God for Mississippi."  Mississippi's proud tradition in being last in the country in everything makes everywhere else look good by comparison.


even Detroit ?


(ok, detroit's not a state, but...)


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Bacon King on March 13, 2012, 10:03:51 AM
full release: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_SouthernSwing_312.pdf
(MS starts on page 33)


Title: Re: MS PrimR: Public Policy Polling: Gingrich with slight lead
Post by: Bacon King on March 13, 2012, 10:20:36 AM
full release: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_SouthernSwing_312.pdf
(MS starts on page 33)

Notes:
-Men are more likely than women to believe Obama is a Christian, that evolution is real, and that interracial marriage should be legal.
-Santorum 40% among 18-45 year old voters, but polls in 3rd among older voters
-Gingrich winning, Romney in 4th place among "very liberal voters", lol
-Tea Parties more likely to believe in evolution?
-Romney has better favorability among evangelicals than non-evangelicals?