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Title: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: WalterMitty on March 20, 2012, 01:46:14 PM
id say pa.

i think co is out of play for the gop, probably for some time to come....


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on March 20, 2012, 02:04:39 PM
Colorado.  But neither state will.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 20, 2012, 02:07:33 PM

This.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: memphis on March 20, 2012, 02:18:54 PM
The last time PA was more GOP than CO in an Presidential election was 1948.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on March 20, 2012, 02:20:35 PM


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 20, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
The last time CO was more GOP than PA in an Presidential election was 1948.

huh?

CO voted GOP in 2004, while PA voted Dem? do you mean PA?


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: memphis on March 20, 2012, 02:27:46 PM
The last time CO was more GOP than PA in an Presidential election was 1948.

huh?

CO voted GOP in 2004, while PA voted Dem? do you mean PA?
Yeah, got it backwards. Fixed now.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: 5280 on March 20, 2012, 03:20:55 PM
CO will flip REP in 2012 by a close margin.  Have to keep an eye on which counties will be down by the wire.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 20, 2012, 03:23:21 PM


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: greenforest32 on March 20, 2012, 05:34:36 PM


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 20, 2012, 05:49:06 PM
CO will flip REP in 2012 by a close margin.  Have to keep an eye on which counties will be down by the wire.

Might want to take those hack glasses off.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: WalterMitty on March 20, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
colorado is going through a vermont-ization  plus a hispanic population surge.  that isnt good news for the gop.

meanwhile western pa continues to trend gop.  just look at beaver county!


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: The Professor on March 20, 2012, 06:29:50 PM

Beaver county? Sounds like my kind of county.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 20, 2012, 06:44:59 PM

Beaver county? Sounds like my kind of county.

A+


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Eraserhead on March 20, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
Mitty is back? Nice!

It's weird that this is even a legitimate question but it is these days. The two states went for Obama by a nearly identical margin in 2008. I voted for CO but I could have voted for PA just as easily.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Lincoln Republican on March 20, 2012, 10:42:13 PM
Welcome Walter.

Nice to hear from you again.

As the nominee, Romney carries both states.

But seriously, I think Romney takes Colorado, not Pennsylvania.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 20, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
As the nominee, Romney carries both states.

But seriously, I think Romney takes Colorado, not Pennsylvania.

Best post of the year as Winfield admits he's a joke.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Lincoln Republican on March 20, 2012, 11:30:22 PM
As the nominee, Romney carries both states.

But seriously, I think Romney takes Colorado, not Pennsylvania.

Best post of the year as Winfield admits he's a joke.

Oh Phil, just because your man got a right royal thumpin' tonight, is no reason to take out your frustration on me.

This race is over.  Now, I'm sorry to see that your way of dealing with this is to lash out, but if that is how you wish to respond, hey, that's your choice.

But I don't think you should be getting your shorts in a knot over this.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: 5280 on March 20, 2012, 11:57:41 PM
I don't know why the Democrats are so obsessed with wanting Obama to win CO.  Kind of annoying actually.  Obama is a joke.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 21, 2012, 12:08:45 AM
I don't know why the Democrats are so obsessed with wanting Obama to win CO.  Kind of annoying actually.  Obama is a joke.

Because:

He won it in 2008.
Dems held Senate and Governor's Mansion in toxic year.
He's polling ahead of all challengers.
Demographics favor Dems more by the day.

Colorado is not friendly territory for Romney. It's rapidly sliding into the Democratic column (along with Nevada).

Your hack glasses are still on, mate.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 21, 2012, 12:28:01 AM
Colorado. But Romney isn't going to win it just because of Mormons.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: 5280 on March 21, 2012, 12:46:07 AM
I don't know why the Democrats are so obsessed with wanting Obama to win CO.  Kind of annoying actually.  Obama is a joke.

Because:

He won it in 2008.
Dems held Senate and Governor's Mansion in toxic year.
He's polling ahead of all challengers.
Demographics favor Dems more by the day.

Colorado is not friendly territory for Romney. It's rapidly sliding into the Democratic column (along with Nevada).

Your hack glasses are still on, mate.
I'm keeping on my hack glasses as long as I can bud, thanks.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 21, 2012, 08:28:26 AM
I don't know why the Democrats are so obsessed with wanting Obama to win CO.  Kind of annoying actually.  Obama is a joke.

Because:

He won it in 2008.
Dems held Senate and Governor's Mansion in toxic year.
He's polling ahead of all challengers.
Demographics favor Dems more by the day.

Colorado is not friendly territory for Romney. It's rapidly sliding into the Democratic column (along with Nevada).

Your hack glasses are still on, mate.
I'm keeping on my hack glasses as long as I can bud, thanks.

Don't act surprised then when Colorado is called by the networks on exits alone. :)


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: J. J. on March 21, 2012, 09:17:32 AM
CO, and I wouldn't count it in either column at this point.

CO when R in 2004 and I think 2000.

PA last went, barely, R in 1988.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Person Man on March 21, 2012, 01:57:51 PM
Lets look at the PVIs in the last for elections, shall we?

CO-

1996- R +4

2000- R+ 4  (mainly due to the massive spoiling caused there)

2004- R +1

2008- D +1

I would say that a D +3 would be a reasonable outcome for CO in 2012.

PA?

1996-  Even Clinton underperformed by a few Tenths of a percent, but so did Dole (Perot got like a percent hight)

2000- D+2

2004- D +3 

2008- D +1


So, I guess Pennsylvania is kinda bouncing around but since the Tea Party won there in 2010 and lost in Colorado, I am going to say that Pennsylvania is probably trending R as fast as Colorado is trending D....perhaps a PVI point a midterm. ...though I doubt Pennsylvania will move past the tipping point. - I would say that PA will be between R+1 and D+1 this year.

I'm saying Pennsylvania. Colorado will be perhaps Obama's 266th EV and Pennsylvania will be Romney's 272nd.




Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Smash255 on March 21, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
Neither.  The Romney of 10 years ago would have been a strong fit for suburban Denver.  This version will get obliterated.


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on March 21, 2012, 07:10:56 PM


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 21, 2012, 07:19:35 PM


Title: Re: colorado or pennsylvania
Post by: ajb on March 21, 2012, 07:52:57 PM
Neither.  The Romney of 10 years ago would have been a strong fit for suburban Denver.  This version will get obliterated.
Also for suburban Philly, though perhaps for slightly different reasons.