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Title: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: politicus on March 20, 2012, 10:10:54 PM Who was the most horrible dictator in the 20th century?
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: dead0man on March 21, 2012, 05:33:51 AM Obviously it's one of the first two. One could make decent arguments for Pol Pot or Mao. I don't see how anybody else could make the cut. I'm going to go with Stalin.
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 21, 2012, 06:31:13 AM Hitler for starting the World War II. Hence, he had the worst and the biggest impact.
Of course, that doesn't make anyone else on this list more sympathetic. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 21, 2012, 02:15:46 PM When a certain degree of horribleness is reached, it becomes very hard to differentiate. It's like comparing two infinites. You know, like natural numbers and rational number. The latter are more numerous than the former, yet they're theoretically both the same number.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kim have all crossed the line. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 21, 2012, 03:00:30 PM When a certain degree of horribleness is reached, it becomes very hard to differentiate. It's like comparing two infinites. You know, like natural numbers and rational number. The latter are more numerous than the former, yet they're theoretically both the same number. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kim have all crossed the line. Well, Hitler was worse than Pol Pot on one issue: Pol Pot didn't invade his neighbours. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Mechaman on March 21, 2012, 04:08:41 PM When a certain degree of horribleness is reached, it becomes very hard to differentiate. It's like comparing two infinites. You know, like natural numbers and rational number. The latter are more numerous than the former, yet they're theoretically both the same number. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Kim have all crossed the line. Well, Hitler was worse than Pol Pot on one issue: Pol Pot didn't invade his neighbours. At least Pol Pot killed intellectuals equally too! Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 21, 2012, 05:12:18 PM The owner of Blondie
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Frodo on March 21, 2012, 05:14:09 PM Hitler gets the gold, Stalin gets silver, and Mao gets bronze. The others are (dis-)honorable mentions. :P
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Jerseyrules on March 22, 2012, 08:58:49 PM Hitler was bad, but he focused on other countries, and his doucheness was quarantined because of his need to focus on a multi-theatre world war.
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Yelnoc on March 22, 2012, 09:05:42 PM Hitler was bad, but he focused on other countries, and his doucheness was quarantined because of his need to focus on a multi-theatre world war. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: politicus on March 22, 2012, 09:21:42 PM Hitler was bad, but he focused on other countries, and his doucheness was quarantined because of his need to focus on a multi-theatre world war. But Stalin and Pol Pot certainly killed a larger part of their own population than Hitler and Mao is responsible for the death of more Chinese than Hitler killed Germans. So seen from a homeland perspective Hitler is not no. 1. Guess that's his point. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 23, 2012, 01:02:02 PM Mao, followed by Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Vosem on March 24, 2012, 01:16:37 PM Have to go with Hitler.
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on March 24, 2012, 06:43:07 PM Hitler was bad, but he focused on other countries Sure, which makes him less horrible, because he killed more worthless foreigners than his own Aryan people. Quote and his doucheness was quarantined because of his need to focus on a multi-theatre world war. I'm pretty sure Jews, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, French, Yugoslavians, Belgians, etc. etc. were benefiting from this distraction. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 24, 2012, 07:06:19 PM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course.
Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Redalgo on March 24, 2012, 07:33:44 PM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. "Other" ^^ Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook on March 24, 2012, 07:38:54 PM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. "Other" ^^ I meant excluding Other. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 25, 2012, 12:59:42 AM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on March 25, 2012, 03:09:53 AM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. Castro or Mussolini, depending on what aspects you're focusing on. Next tier would probably be...Ho Chi Minh and Franco, maybe? Franco's getting into the territory that Antonio described but I'm not well-versed in his reign enough to know whether or not he's quite there. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 25, 2012, 04:47:23 AM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. Yeah, Mussolini might get the prize. The Salo' era was pretty horrible, but fortunately it didn't last long. It might be Ho Chi Min as well, I don't know much about how he ruled after his victory. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: politicus on March 25, 2012, 07:27:00 AM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. Most horrible is interesting because of the different criteria you can apply. Hitler was responsible for the highest number of deaths if you give him sole responsibility for WW2. Mao killed the highest number of his own people (if you include starvation), Pol Pot killed the highest percentage of his own population and ruined his country's economy and social structure. If you combine the two criteria of killing the highest share of your own population and the highest number of your own population Stalin wins. Stalin also probably had the largest longtime negative impact and imprisoned and forcibly relocated most people. But Hitler is the conventional choice as the personification of evil. I would say Stalin if you combine all factors and Pol Pot if you focus on the amount of evil a dictator caused relative to the resources he had at his disposal. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 25, 2012, 08:10:51 AM Better question: Least horrible. Regarding that list, of course. Most horrible is interesting because of the different criteria you can apply. Hitler was responsible for the highest number of deaths if you give him sole responsibility for WW2. Mao killed the highest number of his own people (if you include starvation), Pol Pot killed the highest percentage of his own population and ruined his country's economy and social structure. If you combine the two criteria of killing the highest share of your own population and the highest number of your own population Stalin wins. Stalin also probably had the largest longtime negative impact and imprisoned and forcibly relocated most people. But Hitler is the conventional choice as the personification of evil. I would say Stalin if you combine all factors and Pol Pot if you focus on the amount of evil a dictator caused relative to the resources he had at his disposal. I think a case might be made for Kim Il-Sung regarding long-term impact. North Korea is a small country, but people have been starving for over 60 years because of him and his successors. Title: Re: Most horrible 20th century dictator Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 25, 2012, 03:10:18 PM All of these are obviously despicable pieces of garbage, but I vote Hitler as the Spawn of Satan of the 20th century.
He started WW2, and he targeted and murdered specific groups of people through some of the most disturbing methods ever. Stalin comes in 2nd, with Mao in third. After that I don't know much, but maybe Pol Pot in 4th? |