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General Politics => International General Discussion => Topic started by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 28, 2012, 11:34:50 AM



Title: Pastygate
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 28, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
This deserves a thread on its own. I feel it could bring down the government.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Leftbehind on March 28, 2012, 11:59:14 AM
Never seen such a half-baked policy :D

We should have a UK discussion thread for stuff like this, and the emerging petrol fiasco.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Silent Hunter on March 28, 2012, 01:05:00 PM
Don't we already have a UK General Discussion thread?

As a regular user of Greggs, I find this idea pretty stupid. A fast food tax I could get, but something based on whether it's heated first? No way.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 02:27:17 PM
Has this past week just been "Make the Tories looks posh" week? I don't think they've had such a car crash of a week in ageeeeees.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Joe Republic on March 28, 2012, 02:30:35 PM
Explanation, please.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 02:39:17 PM

The government's decided to extend VAT to all hot, pre-prepared foods. At one of the select committees, they asked Osborne about the effect it'd have on fast food take aways and other food shops like the popular pasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty) shop chain Greggs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greggs) (which the government was heaping praise on the other week for hiring people) and he responded with something along the lines of "well, I don't remember the last time I even went to Greggs anyway", so it's been dubbed the 'Pasty Tax'. The tax'll inevitably harm such shops.

Pasty's are a stereotypically working class food. This is just pushing the 'out of touch Tories' mantra.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Leftbehind on March 28, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
Don't we already have a UK General Discussion thread?

Yeah, ignore me. Confused the one we have as the polling thread.

The highest rated comment on the BBC article about fuel shortages:
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Government appears to encourage panic buying.

Panic buying causes fuel shortages.

Fuel shortages leads to long queues at petrol stations.

People waiting a long time need to eat.

Petrol stations sell hot Ginsters pasties.

Government is to charge 20% VAT on hot pasties

Conspiracy?

:D :D :D


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=WtbYVeP84YU

How smarmy can one person be? Bet Eric Pickles had a right kick off over this when it came up in cabinet.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: redcommander on March 28, 2012, 05:56:47 PM
Why would an election be called? The LibDems don't want a rump, and Cameron doesn't want to lose. Anyways 2015 is a long ways away, and Labour is still led by Millibrand. This isn't going to matter to voters three years from now.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Why would an election be called? The LibDems don't want a rump, and Cameron doesn't want to lose. Anyways 2015 is a long ways away, and Labour is still led by Millibrand. This isn't going to matter to voters three years from now.

I evoke the sarcasm sign in realpolitik's defense.
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Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 28, 2012, 06:10:57 PM
The title made me think of something rather different.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Joe Republic on March 28, 2012, 06:18:12 PM
The title made me think of something rather different.

Yeah, I was hoping for a scandal to do with showgirl nipple-coverings, and instead it's about some kind of meat pie (and not the good kind!).  Hmph.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 28, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
This story gets more and more serious by the hour: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/29/pasty-row-david-cameron

This government is finished.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 07:43:04 PM
This story gets more and more serious by the hour: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/29/pasty-row-david-cameron

This government is finished.

I hear Ed Miliband's put forward an EDM for a motion of no confidence...


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 28, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
This story gets more and more serious by the hour: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/29/pasty-row-david-cameron

This government is finished.

I hear Ed Miliband's put forward an EDM for a motion of no confidence...

It may even pass given the likely revolt from the entirety of the LibDem's West Country group of MPs over this most important of West Country issues.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 28, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
This story gets more and more serious by the hour: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/29/pasty-row-david-cameron

This government is finished.

I hear Ed Miliband's put forward an EDM for a motion of no confidence...

It may even pass given the likely revolt from the entirety of the LibDem's West Country group of MPs over this most important of West Country issues.

Mebyon Kernow to give Ed Miliband confidence and supply after the election. Mark my words.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 29, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
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Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on March 29, 2012, 08:24:39 AM
Oh no they didn't! Pasties are the only type of British food that is good. 


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: k-onmmunist on March 29, 2012, 10:43:56 AM
The incompetence of this government truly amazes me.


Title: Re: Pastygate
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 29, 2012, 05:45:02 PM
Maybe we can merge two problems from opposite sides of the Atlantic into one to solve it.  Exempt pasties made with pink slime from the VAT.