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Rather odd, yet impossible not to love.

Seems to be a fighter and incurable optimist - traits I admire, so FF

well meaning.  has a big heart.

but after the latest episode it is clear there is something off-kilter. 

(by the way, i dont think bushie expects god to change the laws of kenya, he is probably thinking more along the lines that god will provide him with a wife that will enable the 'adoption' to go through)

This should be an entertaining thread. :P

I have to vote FF!

However God chooses to do it is alright with me.  I just want what is best for the kids, plain and simple.

One of the great FF's.

He is America.

Whoever the 7 HP's so far, I want to give them a high five for being honest. :)

A very good person- I admire his devotion to others

Voted, should be obvious.

I voted HP by accident.

How much longer will you be (kind of) impersonating me?  I don't want anybody reading that post and thinking that my HP vote was accidental.

I love you, too, Joe. ;)

So true.

Why are people hating on BushOK? Really, unlike some people, he doesn't feel the need to insult people or randomly make posts bad-mouthing others. At least that's the impression I get.

FF

A good person. FF.

he knows not what he does

It's become abundantly obvious after this latest series of events that he has pretty serious mental issues that need psychiatric treatment.

yeah he is either a supremely gifted hoax artist (highly unlikely) or mentally ill.

It was funny before, but this whole white man's burden deal is really bothering me.

Since no one posted this on the other thread and I didn't see it until it was too late: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQqs-Cno5Bc.

I'd avoided all the BushOklahoma stuff completely until I read a couple of pages of the latest thread earlier today.

I don't understand it. What is he?

I keep skimming the posts and thinking it's you - "Why is Joe Republic writing in slightly broken English?"

FF.


He's a nice guy :)

It took these recent events to convince you?

I see that avatar and I think it's Joe Republic and then I realize, oh, it's just Kalwejt. Then I'm sad.

Rather desperately seeking an anchor I suspect.  I hope he finds it, I really do. I "knew" my life path at about age 6. He is on the other end of the bell curve, and that must be a challenge that I cannot begin to fathom given my hard wiring and life experiences.  I hope he finds the courage to navigate to a safe harbor, which he so wants right now, even while I am seeking rather more roiled waters.

And at the risk of going a bit too far, simply embracing Christ or any other super-arching figure, is simply not enough. In the end, despite all of that, you are truly rather alone in life, as my Dad among other things wrote to me in a long handwritten letter he wrote to me on my 21st birthday (he also cautioned me that my life was almost certain to be attended by great sadness and anguish from time to time, no matter what, and how right he was - the only antidote is to find the courage to see you way through sensibly).  He was a very wise and sensitive man, and I still "seek" his counsel to this day in my own way when I have a very tough decision to make (and I still have to make them), even though he is long dead (no I don't do seances). That is my judgement having had my rather long spin around the track. There is no substitute for seeking from within, rather than from without.

His whole story has gone from amusing to rather sad. He's probably as problematic as Teddy, but at least Teddy was seeking help instead of trying to take on even more responsibility.

I'm quite sure every 'Opinion of BushOklahoma' poll-thread has this exact same post in it.

It's too bad he locked the thread now, though.  I think jmfcst joining the show was probably our best chance to have our general advice heard. 

Good Christian = FF

He (currently) supports Romney, so HP.

Anyway, I haven't kept up with the Africa story-line at all. Anyone want to give me a quick "update" on it?

Personally, I'm hoping his love life is resurrected at some point. I found that stuff much more entertaining.

Rejects logic and conventional though for religion, which he abuses like a drug. He needs help.

HP

He visited Kenya for a week, and is now sponsoring two poor Kenyan orphan children who live with their ailing grandmother.  He thinks that his financial support means that he's the father of those kids, and wants to move to Kenya and legally adopt them within three years, even though it's illegal in Kenya for a single man to adopt kids.  He says that, despite what the law says, God will find a way for him to adopt them, one way or another.  This post basically sums it up:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=143929.msg3252216#msg3252216

He'll either unlock it again or create some equivalent update. He won't be able to resist for long.

What you guys don't realize is I have become equally amused by your attempts to figure out what I am.  That is a near impossible task. :)

As far as the crazy part goes let me say this one thing:

If trusting my God completely and for everything makes me crazy, then pass the Bible and call me crazy. :)

A bored Swiss grandmother, making up implausible stories about being an Oklahoman Evangelical Christian who sells fake health insurance to his parents, is afraid of driving in one inch of snow, and tries to illegally adopt Kenyan orphans?

^This sounds about right.

In other words, I am correct - impossible to predict and figure out. :)

How would Churchill describe him? "a mystery, wrapped inside an enigma encased in a..." or something to that effect?

He has a good heart, but this latest series of episodes are a bit worrisome. I understand trusting god, but expecting him to overturn nation's laws is a bit extreme.

I hope he reopens the thread soon because it was the only reason to visit this forum nowadays.

So, I guess I'm no longer a good reason to visit this forum? I see how it is. Now I must mock you on twitter about your terrible cooking.

Limiting you to this forum would be an injustice to your greatness. You make it worthwhile to visit any website. I merely was talking about the Atlas forum.

Naïve, self absorbed and in a state of perpetual arrested development and with mental health issues that require redress. He’s actually quite dismissive in a ‘fixed grin’ sort of way to any suggestions that go against his own train of thought.

Hilarious in hindsight. Especially as Joe defended him: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=62495.0

Aww, wuv u too

This guy is weird...

NEED MORE UPDATE

Good person, terrible judgement.

Couldn't have said it better.

at this point i am seriously worried about his mental well being.

all he wants in this world is unconditional love.  nothing wrong with that.

but what happens when he finally realizes that for one of the many reasons...he wont be able to adopt these children?  hell, what if he learns the whole damn thing is a scam and his 'children' dont exist?  i see this ending very badly.

i encourage bushie to seek professional help.  i have my own mental problems...and getting help was the best thing i ever did.  i should have done it a lot sooner.

Or that these kids don't love him like he loves them. That has been a theme throughout the saga known as BushOK. He meets someone and loves them more than life itself and then that person leaves him. The kids he's sponsoring may not even know or care who he is. They probably will be confused when they get a card saying "love your daddy" if they even get it at all (and if they are monitored before they see them, they don't get it because it reeks of pedophilia). This will only end in more heartbreak and rejection. He's making the same mistake he made with Susan and Tiffanye except this time it's with two kids he sponsors and not a girl.

I'm not an admirator of internet psychiatry, but Bushie really needs to see a therapist. Him not being able to see that himself isn't too surprising, but the fact that noone in his environment seems to have attempted to get him to seek professional help is, while not all that surprising for Oklahoma City, distressing. I'm especially wondering why none of his pastors and/or church friends try to steer him away from his selfdestructive behaviour. Surely he'd be at least as open with them as with some random strangers on the internet, even if he is very closed towards his own direct family?

Whether or not I can adopt the kids or not, I still feel led to pack up and move to Kenya in 3 years.  There's just something about that place that makes me truly want to call it home.  I was thinking the other day, as I think everyday that I really enjoy my life in Oklahoma and it will be hard giving up the conveniences that we have in America and going back 50-70 years in time, which is basically what I would be doing moving to Kenya, but the more I think about it, the more going back in time seems like it would be refreshing.  The life in Kisumu, Kenya is about what the United States was in the 1940s and 1950s with the additions of a supermarket and Internet/WiFi.  When I move, I can at least be closer to the children and be able to see them more regularly than just once a year even if I can't legally adopt them.

I will continue to call Kenya home and will continue to call Phelix and Mercy my children, because if I'm not their parent than who is?  Their birth mother is dead and they have no father.

Jeff, wasn't it you who was talking about turning on the air condidtioning in your house in the spring?  Kenya isn't exactly a cool climate.

You really need to stop thinking about these kids and get your own life in order first.

I have turned the a/c on in my house for the summer.  I know there is little to no a/c in Kenya, but I can handle it by leaving the windows open and fans running at night.

I will not stop thinking about these kids and my life is in order.  I've got a job in Oklahoma that I will keep at least until I move, possibly be able to transfer to Nairobi.  My finances are slowly improving.  I own my own home and have for the last 32 months.  I drive a very reliable car that I am able to keep maintenance on.  My mother has stopped helping me with bills as she is retiring on 30 April and I am turning 30 on 29 April.  My spiritual walk with the LORD is amazing and very refreshing.  Everything I've shared over the past two weeks are just what He has shown me.  I will admit that I'm a little presumtuous in some instances and I may have been here, as well.  However, I honestly believe God is the one who is calling me down to Kenya in 2015 and to, at least, love these kids with a parental love.  I will admit I may have jumped the gun on the legal adoption, but I did that out of just wanting what is best for the children.  My intentions are well-meaning, and I don't believe anyone on the forum is questioning my intentions or motives.  I will also say I may be a little eccentric at times, but I am okay with that.  I am okay with who I am and who God has made me to be.  God loves me enough to come to where I am, but He loves me way too much to leave me there.  He is still teaching me and growing me and will continue to teach me until the day He calls me to my real home, Heaven.

Inks, I do believe my life is in order.  Are there changes I could make? Absolutely, and I would be the first to admit it, but I am happy where I'm at and where I've come and where I can go from here.

Alright, I'm all caught up on the African drama now. I've never seen comedy and horror interwoven so exquisitely before.

Bushie, if you need to be loved so badly by another being, just get a dog. Seriously. If you treat it kindly and feed it three times a day it will love you more than any human could. Rescue one from a shelter while you're at it.

"I forgot to feed my dog today but I will definitely remind myself to feed him tomorrow."

"I talked to my pastor and I plan to walk the dog for 30 minutes once every week from now on."

You may believe your life is in order, but you should probably talk to an unbiased third party who has no previous connection to you to evaluate that.

Open windows will give you malaria, bro

This entire saga is depressing me...my life hasnt even started yet as an adult...

You can learn from the mistakes of others.

Bushie - Q&A on how to avoid the simplest of trainwrecks.

I strongly disagree with the notion that it is hard to get help in Oklahoma City.  While I do have problems with the church, I can't say that they are horrible when it comes to helping each other in hard times.  Short of somebody coming out as a homosexual or a woman who has had an abortion, most god fearing church folk seem to have a genuine concern about helping people with sh*t like psychological issues, drug addictions, pornographic addictions, etc. etc.  I myself went to a church provided AA-like program in Edmond and it really helped.  Sure I had to listen to all the stuff about "god this, god that", but hey I wasn't about to spend thirty bucks to attend the alternative option.

As for this latest BushOK episode, I don't feel qualified to judge (or more accurately, I feel too lazy to read more than this first page of replies).  If he wants to adopt some children more power to him.  Hell, if he wants to move to Kenya and get a nice Kenyan wife, some homeless kids, and a bland color compound on the Kenyan Desert Prairie more power to him.  I just hope he truly feels the dedication and strength to go through with living in Kenya and raising kids.
Considering that he went through legal adoption, which at least over here is a very costly and time consuming legal act, he might as well go all out.

^Off topic: but Mecha since when do you have to pay for an AA meeting?  Pretty sure that is against the charter or something. From my limited experience you might want to chip in for coffee or something but there should never be any sort of cover fee.

Bushie seems a great hearted and well meaning individual who like many of us is often betrayed by their brain chemistry and inability to control impulses.

'there are no dues or fees for aa membership'

a collection is passed around because every meeting is self supporting.  but it is totally optional to donate.  ive never seen anyone pressured to donate or ostracized for not donating.

okay, back to the topic of bushie's african children...

This might be dated, but I think it's a good opportunity to share it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBsKZUAHzAc

LOL! I totally forgot about this one!

I just watched it with the sound muted, good one...

It's off topic, but it was some kind of non-voluntary AA thing.  Pretty much, and I don't want to give too much of my personal life away here, the school I go to gave me two options for violating a certain rule of the establishment.  One of those cost $30 for six sessions and the other was free.
Not sure if it was an official "Alcoholics Anonymous" (probably not, based off of what I heard here) thing, for the record.  I kind of use the term AA as kind of a general meaning.

And even then, the church provided one wasn't that horrible.

As for the topic,

I don't think it's entirely a good idea for Bushie to do everything just because he believes God is telling him to do it.  I really think that sometime along the way he needs to see a counselor or something.  I mean I've seen a few counselor or what not in the past few years to deal with my anger problems (look at some of my older posts, they're nasty) and it did wonders.

Just a thought.

I'm going to do some more praying on this particular subject, but I believe I need to continue with the pursuit of my MBA beginning this August at the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond.  I am going to do this to give me a better chance of a higher paying job in Kenya when I move there in 3 years.  If I can get started this August, I should graduate by May 2014 which is still 10-11 months before I plan to be down there.  This MBA will not only help me in Kenya, but will also, no doubt, help me if for some reason I have to stay in Oklahoma longer than 3 years.  The first thing I will do is take my GMAT exam as already scheduled on Saturday, 19 May, 2012 in Tulsa.  I've already paid the $250 exam fee, so I might as well take it and see where it leads.  I still feel led to move to Kenya in 35 1/2 months from now by 1 April 2015, but I am also feeling led to make the most of my time left in Oklahoma to prepare me for whatever happens whether I am in Oklahoma or Kenya or elsewhere around the world.  I will, of course, talk to the admissions counselors at UCO in the next 6 weeks until the exam and even beyond to see if its even feasible considering I do not have a 3.0 GPA from my Bachelor's Degree, but this is a good step in the right direction, I believe.

Oh, so this is the new update thread now?  Figures.

I've thought about reopening the update thread.

You already have a second update thread. You really need a third? It's best that all the travelings & adventures be bound into one volume.

Yeah, I'll probably reopen Volume 2 here before too long, and just take whatever comments are dished out.  I will try to refrain from using this thread as an update, especially since I didn't start this thread.

My 'surprised' face:  :-|

I thought you didn't want to read any advice that wasn't "bathed in prayer"?

I entirely like you, and I believe I would like you in person - to an extent - but I have to vote 'HP' on political grounds.  Nothing personal.

Cathcon, it is always more profitable for the production company to split up each season into their own dvd set.  We can then bound it up into a nice anthology box set with some deleted footage and cast interviews at a premium price later down the road.  Further, the production company is currently in intense negotiations for a Horn of Africa syndication deal.  This show is going global baby.

A very endearing, but misguided man.