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Title: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Phony Moderate on April 04, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
Discuss.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Miles on April 04, 2012, 06:26:05 AM
I voted Hagan, but I'd really like to see her as VP.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Yelnoc on April 04, 2012, 09:15:27 AM
Schweitzer.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 04, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
Between Schweitzer, Feingold and Grayson.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Comrade Funk on April 04, 2012, 02:09:09 PM
Schweitzer, O'Malley, or Feingold.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Del Tachi on April 04, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
Former Vice President Al Gore


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: LastVoter on April 04, 2012, 07:20:57 PM
Schweitzer, Feingold, Warren.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Cobbler on April 04, 2012, 07:48:14 PM
Schweitzer, Cuomo, Warner, Biden


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 05, 2012, 10:30:43 PM
Clinton or Schweitzer


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Frodo on April 05, 2012, 10:50:56 PM
Either Martin O'Malley, Brian Schweitzer, Hillary Clinton, or Russ Feingold. 


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on April 05, 2012, 11:03:37 PM
Governor Andrew Cuomo.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: morgieb on April 06, 2012, 01:03:16 AM
Schweitzer.

While I'd prefer Shumlin, Franken, Warren, Grayson and Feingold on ideological, winning is more important.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Zioneer on April 06, 2012, 01:36:05 AM
Schweitzer.

While I'd prefer Shumlin, Franken, Warren, Grayson and Feingold on ideological, winning is more important.

Schweitzer's actually pretty good on some leftist issues; he supports Canada-style healthcare, for example. And he's been a champion for some environmental causes (when an oil spill happened in his state, he demanded that BP or whoever clean it up).


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: morgieb on April 06, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Schweitzer.

While I'd prefer Shumlin, Franken, Warren, Grayson and Feingold on ideological, winning is more important.

Schweitzer's actually pretty good on some leftist issues; he supports Canada-style healthcare, for example. And he's been a champion for some environmental causes (when an oil spill happened in his state, he demanded that BP or whoever clean it up).

Yeah, that's why I said him > the other frontrunners. None of the really left-wing guys would have a hope in hell, whereas his GE strength makes him one of strongest candidates in years.

But we all know they're gonna pick Cuomo....


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 07, 2012, 05:13:57 AM
Feingold.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on April 07, 2012, 11:01:35 AM


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Averroës Nix on April 07, 2012, 03:19:28 PM
But we all know they're gonna pick Cuomo....

Seriously? My sense is that however well organized his campaign might be, winning votes will be an uphill struggle for him.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 07, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
Feingold.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 08, 2012, 06:50:44 AM
Why do you guys like Schweitzer so much ? It's an actual question, since I don't know him at all.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: morgieb on April 08, 2012, 08:19:18 AM
Why do you guys like Schweitzer so much ? It's an actual question, since I don't know him at all.

A proper leftie who can win.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Averroës Nix on April 08, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Why do you guys like Schweitzer so much ? It's an actual question, since I don't know him at all.

Left-wing principles without the tiresome shibboleths of coastal establishment types.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on April 08, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
Why do you guys like Schweitzer so much ? It's an actual question, since I don't know him at all.

I suspect it comes from a subconscious Democratic tendency to like candidates that can capture a wide range of support. Schweitzer may seem at first glance like a typical centrist Governor of a Western state, but he is a left-winger at heart. Democrats rise and fall on the basis of our candidates much more than Republicans do, and Schweitzer is very easygoing with a charming populist persona that can drag along voters that other Democrats might have a problem with.

Also he's been a really good Governor, which is always a plus.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on April 08, 2012, 09:52:02 AM
Why do you guys like Schweitzer so much ? It's an actual question, since I don't know him at all.

I suspect it comes from a subconscious Democratic tendency to like candidates that can capture a wide range of support. Schweitzer may seem at first glance like a typical centrist Governor of a Western state, but he is a left-winger at heart. Democrats rise and fall on the basis of our candidates much more than Republicans do, and Schweitzer is very easygoing with a charming populist persona that can drag along voters that other Democrats might have a problem with.

Also he's been a really good Governor, which is always a plus.

Also also: http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_7142652a-68a9-11e0-acee-001cc4c002e0.html


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 08, 2012, 10:06:39 AM
He seems like a fine candidate, yes.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: ShadowRocket on April 08, 2012, 02:06:18 PM
Schweitzer or O'Malley.

My ideal ticket would be Schweitzer/Klobuchar.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: "'Oeps!' De blunders van Rick Perry Indicted" on April 08, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
Not to take anything away from Schweitzer's record, which seems strong, but he also benefits from the inferiority complex of a lot of white male Dems. Since Republicans tend to attack Democrats as effete wimps, there's been this desire (especially among Netroots types) to counterattack with macho candidates like Wes Clark, Paul Hackett, the various "fighting Dems" from '06, Webb, Tester etc. Even Kerry's nomination reflected this to some extent. The obsession with the West and with being pro-gun (in contrast to emasculated, soccer-mom-courting '90s Dems) is also a part of this, and has been a big part of the mentality at places like Kos (about 65% male at last count).

While Obama killed OBL and does have a penis (in contrast to his former primary opponent), he hasn't completely eradicated the Dems' wimp image and obviously has problems with white male and rural voters. So I guess there's still a desire for a "rugged" Western Dem who will show that progressives have cajones too and like to shoot things as much as any Republican.

Women and minorities - who make up the decisive core of the Democratic coalition - don't have the same bolo-tie/gun fetish, so Schweitzer probably won't get far in the primaries, even as he wins (white-guy-dominated) Internet polls month after month.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: exopolitician on April 09, 2012, 02:54:34 AM
In order of preference: O'Malley, Feingold, Warner, Schweitzer, Biden. If Warren wins her own Senate seat this year, then she might be my top choice.


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: Cory on April 09, 2012, 11:03:29 AM
In order:

-Schweitzer
-Hillary
-O'Malley
-Biden


Title: Re: Mega 2016 Democratic Primary
Post by: EmersonAdams on April 10, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
After an agonizing 30 seconds, I decided to vote Warren over Schweitzer. I think the democrats have a good (prospective) field ahead for 2016, and I'm excited to see how it takes shape in the next few years.

In order:
Warren
Schweitzer
Fiengold
Clinton
O'Malley
Patrick
Shumlin