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Election Archive => 2012 Elections => Topic started by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 09:30:01 AM



Title: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 09:30:01 AM
He isn't letting his Super PAC do his dirty work on this one. Interesting line of attack in saying that "we" fired Santorum when Republicans overwhelmingly backed him and Romney himself donated to Rick in 2006. That's why it's especially strange that Romney himself is doing this ad. Did Mitt support Casey?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/mitts-pennsylvania-attack-we-fired-him-as-senator-119974.html (http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/04/mitts-pennsylvania-attack-we-fired-him-as-senator-119974.html)


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 09:31:58 AM
...and now the word is that the ad is being pulled out of respect for Santorum staying home with Bella.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Bull Moose Base on April 09, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
...sheds some light on Romney's decision not to seek re-election himself in 2006.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 09:56:22 AM
...sheds some light on Romney's decision not to seek re-election himself in 2006.

Sheds light? Please. Everyone and their mother knows why he didn't run. He was going to get walloped but tries to feed us this nonsense that running for re-election would have only served him personally (yet admits that as President, he'd "obviously" run for re-election. What. A. Joke.).


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Franzl on April 09, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
So Phil, are you going to support Romney in the General?


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 10:29:15 AM
So Phil, are you going to support Romney in the General?

I have consistently said that I will not comment on my vote if Romney is the nominee. I don't know how I'll be voting as of now anyway.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: memphis on April 09, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
On that same night, how did Romney's bid for re-election in MA go?


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 09, 2012, 10:58:17 AM
At least Santorum had a courage to ran for reelection under very unfavorable circumstances.

Romney basically handed MA State House to the Democrats without a fight.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on April 09, 2012, 10:58:38 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 11:03:19 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

But Mitt claims he was so accomplished. Why not run even if it meant a loss? He apparently had such a great record...


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Joe Republic on April 09, 2012, 11:03:45 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

4/10


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: BigSkyBob on April 09, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
So Phil, are you going to support Romney in the General?

Heaven forbid, if Romney should win the nomination, discussions of supporting Romney in the general would just be a distraction. It is clear that the Republican establishment is in a state of war against the rank-and-file members. What happened in North Dakota is a clear example. The rank-and-file need to organize and fight back.

The reality is that the fix is on for Romney in 2012 because in part rank-and-file members rallied to McCain in 2008 rather than demanding reform. As a result, the "reform" in the process we received resulted in the rules being changed in conservative states to make their delegate allocation more proportional, while liberal states remained closer to winner-take-all. As a result, reforms that were suppose to make delegates won more accurately reflect the popular vote actually disproportionately favored the establishment candidate more than even winner-take-all would have! If the rank-and-file fall in line for the establishment candidate in 2012 the rules going into 2016, again, will be heavily stacked to favored to establishment candidate.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: BigSkyBob on April 09, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win reelection is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

Why don't you just claim Christians are such a small percentage in Massachusetts that his defeat for reelection clearly indicated that Mitt Romney can walk on water?  Any Romney claims to divinity are about as credible as his claims of being "severely conservative."


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: tpfkaw on April 09, 2012, 12:24:18 PM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

Mass arguably is to the economic right of Penna at the state level (though certainly not at the federal or municipal level).


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Adam Griffin on April 09, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
"I like being able to fire people that provide representation to me."


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: morgieb on April 09, 2012, 06:02:22 PM
No, Pennsylvania fired Santorum. Try again jackass.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on April 09, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
That's one of the worst ads I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: AndrewTX on April 09, 2012, 06:10:22 PM
God, that ad was horrible! That is just another reason why if Romney wins the nomination, I will not vote for him for President.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: World politics is up Schmitt creek on April 09, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

Mass arguably is to the economic right of Penna at the state level (though certainly not at the federal or municipal level).

Yeah, I've frequently noticed that a lot of our state legislators including much of the leadership come across more like particularly wishy-washy moderate Republicans than anything else.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Rowan on April 09, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
Just saw this ad on television about an hour ago. If it was supposedly "pulled" out of respect for Santorum, 6ABC didn't get the memo.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on April 09, 2012, 07:14:56 PM
This is one of the most tone deaf ads I've ever witnessed. It's like running an ad against Joe Lieberman or Lisa Murkowski for losing their respective primaries in the GE.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 09, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
I'd really love to hear Rick ask Romney if he supported Casey in 2006.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Phony Moderate on April 10, 2012, 10:06:45 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

You know, this post will look quite foolish if Brown wins in November.


Title: Re: Romney ad: "We fired Santorum. Why promote him?"
Post by: Hash on April 10, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
Pennsylvania firing someone is not the same as Massachusetts firing someone. Massachusetts is a socialist/liberal social engineer state. So Romney not be able to win re-election is kind of a plus for him, it shows he governed as a conservative.

4/10

You're being generous with him. I'd peg that post at a pretty poor 1-2/10.