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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential Election => Topic started by: California8429 on April 28, 2012, 01:32:45 PM



Title: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: California8429 on April 28, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
Pick two, then we'll be down to a final field that would make it to the actual primary elections via atlas forum


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: California8429 on April 28, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
Christie
Martinez


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on April 28, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Martinez, Hillary.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Frodo on April 28, 2012, 02:13:09 PM
Schweitzer, O'Malley


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 28, 2012, 02:49:08 PM
Ryan, Pence.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 28, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
Schweitzer, Hillary.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 28, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
Rand Paul and Cory Booker. Tough to pick.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Vosem on April 28, 2012, 09:12:06 PM
I wish I had more votes, or that I could give Warren a negative vote -- as such, I voted for Ryan and Martinez.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 28, 2012, 09:17:31 PM
Brian and Russ.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: tpfkaw on April 28, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
Rand Paul only.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 28, 2012, 10:14:46 PM
Feingold
Clinton


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Cobbler on April 29, 2012, 01:20:19 AM
Christie and Schweitzer.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Miles on April 29, 2012, 01:46:34 AM
Schweitzer and Brown.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 29, 2012, 02:35:35 AM
Why is Schweitzer so popular?


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 29, 2012, 10:07:05 AM

I like him because he's moderate and likable. He seems like a genuinely good guy.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 29, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
I wouldn't say he's moderate. Sure, he loves guns and comes from a very conservative background (rancher in rural Montana), but he supports single-payer health care, supports legal medicinal marijuana, and wanted Bush to pull Montana's National Guard out of Iraq to deal with Montana's wildfires at the time. He's more of a left-libertarian.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 29, 2012, 10:26:16 AM
I wouldn't say he's moderate. Sure, he loves guns and comes from a very conservative background (rancher in rural Montana), but he supports single-payer health care, supports legal medicinal marijuana, and wanted Bush to pull Montana's National Guard out of Iraq to deal with Montana's wildfires at the time. He's more of a left-libertarian.

Yeah, this. Better worded than I ever could've put it.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Averroës Nix on April 29, 2012, 11:32:44 AM
Schweitzer flies in the face of stereotypes about Democrats being effete coastal elitists. As he's also more socially libertarian than most other Democrats, he seems like the perfect way to undermine the narratives of the hard right.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: California8429 on April 29, 2012, 12:19:54 PM
Schweitzer flies in the face of stereotypes about Democrats being effete coastal elitists. As he's also more socially libertarian than most other Democrats, he seems like the perfect way to undermine the narratives of the hard right.

He is a candidate I fear for this reason. Especially if say a Romney type was up against him. The one thing we could hope for is that the dems fracture just as much as the republicans did this time because of him.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on April 29, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
Hillary and Pence


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 30, 2012, 12:51:53 AM
I personally cannot support Schweitzer for his record (or lack thereof) on gay rights.  I want to support the first president who's unapologetically pro-marriage equality in the next election.  Democrats have beat around the issue for too long.

I wouldn't say he's moderate. Sure, he loves guns and comes from a very conservative background (rancher in rural Montana), but he supports single-payer health care, supports legal medicinal marijuana, and wanted Bush to pull Montana's National Guard out of Iraq to deal with Montana's wildfires at the time. He's more of a left-libertarian.

This is actually why I wouldn't mind having him as a nominee or president.  There's just that lingering issue.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Miles on April 30, 2012, 12:58:03 AM
I personally cannot support Schweitzer for his record (or lack thereof) on gay rights.  I want to support the first president who's unapologetically pro-marriage equality in the next election.  Democrats have beat around the issue for too long.

Democrats need to move away from focusing on liberal social issues like that; its hurting our prospects with working-class voters. If anything, we should be moving more towards the center. Schweitzer has been a super-popular governor; I don't think one issue, especially one as divisive as that, should be a deal breaker.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 30, 2012, 01:15:29 AM
I personally cannot support Schweitzer for his record (or lack thereof) on gay rights.  I want to support the first president who's unapologetically pro-marriage equality in the next election.  Democrats have beat around the issue for too long.

Democrats need to move away from focusing on liberal social issues like that; its hurting our prospects with working-class voters. If anything, we should be moving more towards the center. Schweitzer has been a super-popular governor; I don't think one issue, especially one as divisive as that, should be a deal breaker.

America as a whole is becoming more socially liberal by the year.  If we don't capitalize and lead consistently on these key issues, we will fall behind and lose that part of the base.  The Democrats don't have to sacrifice the economic message by appealing toward equal rights, as well; Scott Walker and John Kasich have already done a good job boosting that.  And personally, I would rather support the Democratic candidate that would pursue social equality than the candidate that only gets elected because they say whatever people want to hear.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Pingvin on April 30, 2012, 02:25:51 AM
Paul
Pence


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: RedPrometheus on April 30, 2012, 02:39:46 AM
Warren, Clinton


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 30, 2012, 02:51:55 AM
Tough to pick, 6 of those 9 Democrats are actually not too bad.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on April 30, 2012, 08:10:27 AM
I assume your objections are to Cuomo, Warner, and Clinton?


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Niemeyerite on April 30, 2012, 08:33:23 AM
O'Malley and Sherrod Brown are my choices.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 30, 2012, 08:54:55 AM
Most of these are really good candidates.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on April 30, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
I voted Schweitzer/Booker.
Feingold would have been a close third.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on April 30, 2012, 07:49:38 PM


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on April 30, 2012, 08:19:57 PM
So the final is gonna be Schweitzer, Hillary, Daniels, Paul and Martinez?


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: LastVoter on April 30, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Feingold
Warren


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Adam Griffin on May 01, 2012, 05:35:54 AM
Clinton & Booker


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on May 01, 2012, 06:07:49 PM
Booker and Schweitzer.

Clinton would be third.


Title: Re: Your 2016 Picks Round TWO
Post by: Del Tachi on May 01, 2012, 08:28:46 PM
Daniels and Bush.

Neoconservatism revival!!!