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Title: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Ben Romney on May 03, 2012, 04:41:06 PM
PRESIDENT – VIRGINIA (WaPo) Obama approval: 53-44
Barack Obama (D-inc) 51%
Mitt ROmney (R) 44%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postVApoll_20120502.html


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Tender Branson on May 04, 2012, 12:46:50 AM
The WaPo Virginia polls are historically very accurate and this backs up PPP.

VA might actually be more Democratic now than the Nation.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Chaddyr23 on May 04, 2012, 02:48:34 AM
What the hell is going on?!


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Adam Griffin on May 04, 2012, 03:01:42 AM
Definitely not a blue state yet, but is moving into the Democratic column quite rapidly. VA may be the fastest-changing state in terms of long-term voting trends at this moment, despite conflicting election outcomes between 2008 and 2010.


Virginia is fastly becoming solidly Democratic and based on some data-sets I ran a couple of weeks ago, may be the fastest-swinging state trending Democratic in the nation. It may not even be a "swing state" in 2012. Florida seems to be a perpetual swing state based on the influx of a wide array of demographics that keep it fairly evenly divided.

I've been saying for some time now that Virginia is the quickest shifting state in the country at this point. There's obviously going to be some instances of "two steps forward, one step back" when it comes to mid-terms versus presidential elections and local/state elections versus national elections, but I would say Virginia flipped on the national level at some point in 2006 or 2007 and has been moving further into the Democratic column ever since. Virginia is at least as Democratic as Pennsylvania is and by 2016, could be on par with Wisconsin or Michigan.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: LastVoter on May 04, 2012, 03:03:35 AM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 05, 2012, 12:21:29 AM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.
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Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on May 05, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.
???

Btg ground states CO, NV, OH, NH, NM and IA
With an outside chance for Obama to win 1 state in the south NC, VA or FL.
Obama needs to win OH or a combo of NH, CO and NV along with IA and NM.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Umengus on May 06, 2012, 04:45:07 AM
The WaPo Virginia polls are historically very accurate and this backs up PPP.

VA might actually be more Democratic now than the Nation.

wapo virginia polls accurate ? can you give proofs because I have some doubts...

The PPP VA poll was dem biased  because the party id was D +7... Better than in 2008. For now, ppp polls give a big dem advantage in their sample id. Better than in 2008.

cfr last dailykos poll: D + 11 !!!

PPP doesn't use a LV model yet. Wait big changes when it will do...



Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Likely Voter on May 07, 2012, 05:25:29 AM
Hard to see a path for Romney without VA. He would have to win McCain states +IN, NC, OH, FL, CO + 2 out of 3 of IA, NV, and NH


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Oakvale on May 07, 2012, 04:51:41 PM
The WaPo Virginia polls are historically very accurate and this backs up PPP.

VA might actually be more Democratic now than the Nation.

wapo virginia polls accurate ? can you give proofs because I have some doubts...

The PPP VA poll was dem biased  because the party id was D +7... Better than in 2008. For now, ppp polls give a big dem advantage in their sample id. Better than in 2008.

cfr last dailykos poll: D + 11 !!!

PPP doesn't use a LV model yet. Wait big changes when it will do...



Please stop.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Kevin on May 07, 2012, 08:31:05 PM
Definitely not a blue state yet, but is moving into the Democratic column quite rapidly. VA may be the fastest-changing state in terms of long-term voting trends at this moment, despite conflicting election outcomes between 2008 and 2010.


Virginia is fastly becoming solidly Democratic and based on some data-sets I ran a couple of weeks ago, may be the fastest-swinging state trending Democratic in the nation. It may not even be a "swing state" in 2012. Florida seems to be a perpetual swing state based on the influx of a wide array of demographics that keep it fairly evenly divided.

I've been saying for some time now that Virginia is the quickest shifting state in the country at this point. There's obviously going to be some instances of "two steps forward, one step back" when it comes to mid-terms versus presidential elections and local/state elections versus national elections, but I would say Virginia flipped on the national level at some point in 2006 or 2007 and has been moving further into the Democratic column ever since. Virginia is at least as Democratic as Pennsylvania is and by 2016, could be on par with Wisconsin or Michigan.

The logic of your comments put into picture form below!

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Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on May 07, 2012, 08:41:25 PM
It's oh- VA!


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on May 11, 2012, 02:29:44 PM
Database entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5120120502145


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Napoleon on May 13, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.

Please admit this post is a joke before I deliver any ridicule.

First of all, American politics is divided through culture, not class. The far-left needs to understand this will not be changing.

Second point, the wealth is Northern Virginia is a product of high-paying government jobs. As the federal government grows, so will the number of government workers in NoVA. Government workers are not inclined to vote Republican, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

Lastly, much of the swing in NoVA can be attributed to a fast-growing Hispanic population that is also increasingly Democratic, as we see with Hispanics elsewhere. Factor in increased black turn-out and you have a Democratic trend.

Fortunately for Democrats, the party you and Snowstalker and others envision is a fairy tale.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: LastVoter on May 15, 2012, 02:37:01 AM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.

Please admit this post is a joke before I deliver any ridicule.

First of all, American politics is divided through culture, not class. The far-left needs to understand this will not be changing.

Second point, the wealth is Northern Virginia is a product of high-paying government jobs. As the federal government grows, so will the number of government workers in NoVA. Government workers are not inclined to vote Republican, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

Lastly, much of the swing in NoVA can be attributed to a fast-growing Hispanic population that is also increasingly Democratic, as we see with Hispanics elsewhere. Factor in increased black turn-out and you have a Democratic trend.

Fortunately for Democrats, the party you and Snowstalker and others envision is a fairy tale.
I am posting on a 2012 board... But the party will be what me and Snowy envision in 5 to 10 years once the majority of Democratic voters are minority. Hopefully establishment is overthrown at the same time.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on May 15, 2012, 03:54:02 PM
If Mittens can't win the most natural country club land against the national average... I don't know how does he plan on getting to 270.

Well to be fair, only counties that are like that are Prince William, Loudon, and a few parts of Fairfax. Maybe some of the Richmond exurbs also, but no more than many other states.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Lambsbread on May 15, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
Mitt will win VA.


Title: Re: Washington Post: Obama Leads Romney By 7% in VA
Post by: Kevin on May 15, 2012, 05:38:00 PM

Most likely,

The Democratic trend of VA is vastly overstated(I live here and my home county is crucial one that flipped for Obama in 2008). The D tilt of the state has been halted since 2009.