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Title: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (On the President's Desk) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 21, 2012, 07:00:37 PM Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 65.8 B 35K-80K 24% 224.2 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50% 175.2 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (12 cents/gallon) $ 19.2 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($140.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $9 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 2 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $42 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $1 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($120.95 billion) $57.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion) $299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2767.9 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,061.3 billion REVENUE $2,978.5 Billion EXPENDITURES -$3,061.3 billion BALANCE -$ 82.8 Billion Sponsor: Senator Ben for President Polnut Slot: Executive Agenda Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 21, 2012, 08:28:23 PM It's worth noting that this budget includes the taxes created to fund most of the programs enacted in the past few months, but not the spending for those programs. I assume they are being delayed until some future date?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Grumpier Than Thou on May 21, 2012, 08:31:34 PM I encourage the Senate to pass this budget.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 21, 2012, 09:18:35 PM In the coming days I have some Amendments to introduce; for example, I intend to increase the funding given to the Department of Energy for research. There is also some revenue stuff I wish to deal with, so stay tuned.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: AndrewTX on May 22, 2012, 07:09:47 AM Hmmm. I'm not too sure about this budget. Personally, I'd like to see some changes made to the Aid to Low-Income Families area. I think we should really take a look at where we can start pulling money out from the budget, and implement more job training programs for those on welfare. It looks like just too much money is going into some of these programs. If we can get Atlasia back to work, assitance will go down and maybe we can really balance the budget in the next few years.
I'm not against helping the people, I am against abusing the system. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 22, 2012, 08:15:47 PM Hmmm. I'm not too sure about this budget. Personally, I'd like to see some changes made to the Aid to Low-Income Families area. I think we should really take a look at where we can start pulling money out from the budget, and implement more job training programs for those on welfare. It looks like just too much money is going into some of these programs. If we can get Atlasia back to work, assitance will go down and maybe we can really balance the budget in the next few years. I'm not against helping the people, I am against abusing the system. I agree. Would the President be comfortable with this idea? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 22, 2012, 10:17:11 PM Hmmm. I'm not too sure about this budget. Personally, I'd like to see some changes made to the Aid to Low-Income Families area. I think we should really take a look at where we can start pulling money out from the budget, and implement more job training programs for those on welfare. It looks like just too much money is going into some of these programs. If we can get Atlasia back to work, assitance will go down and maybe we can really balance the budget in the next few years. I'm not against helping the people, I am against abusing the system. Um... respectfully, I'm hearing a lot of... statements, but what exactly do you want to take out and where do you want to move it to? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Napoleon on May 22, 2012, 10:22:32 PM Its food stamps and housing assistance. I don't know what you can cut from that unless you want to cut people out of the programs but I think that would need a separate bill.
If we can get Atlasia back to work, assitance will go down and maybe we can really balance the budget in the next few years. I agree but the overall economic uncertainty is not fully under our control, with what's going on over in Europe causing major disruptions. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 22, 2012, 10:27:14 PM I think Andrew was talking about investing some of the money spent on food stamps and welfare programs into programs that help bring people out of poverty so that the need for welfare services would be reduced. I'm not sure what the specifics are for this, though.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 22, 2012, 10:29:13 PM I would recommend you refer to the previous Budget in the GM thread, I've increased housing and similar funding and also increased funding for skills training and education.
I'm open to seeing alternative paths if they're not sufficient. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on May 23, 2012, 01:22:03 AM IIRC we have a very robust social security net passed under the social security act. We can try and change eligibilities or payment amounts to save money.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on May 23, 2012, 05:48:05 AM Not exactly happy with the cuts to international affairs, but very happy with the raise in veteran's assistance. DoEA supports the budget.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: ilikeverin on May 23, 2012, 12:29:20 PM How were the health care numbers distributed across regions?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on May 23, 2012, 01:21:51 PM As I said- I'm very happy with this budget particularly commitment to veterans...I was considering moving to take out the funding for broadcaster but that would get me no where and frankly the good far outweighs the bad here...I look forward to seeing BigDaddyPA's proposals
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 23, 2012, 05:19:03 PM My first Amendment:
Quote General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $ $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 23, 2012, 09:07:39 PM How were the health care numbers distributed across regions? I'm not sure why the figures from the more recent budget update weren't used here. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 24, 2012, 08:42:07 PM An additional Amendment:
Quote Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 25, 2012, 09:27:26 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:13 by Ben General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $ $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 25, 2012, 09:30:18 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:16 by Ben Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: ilikeverin on May 25, 2012, 10:15:01 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:16 by Ben Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. I object to this one. We know very little about the best ways to teach; slashing the research budget seems misguided to me. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 25, 2012, 10:17:31 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:16 by Ben Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. I object to this one. We know very little about the best ways to teach; slashing the research budget seems misguided to me. This is for research on eduation and not research at educational institutions, right? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: ilikeverin on May 25, 2012, 10:21:59 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:16 by Ben Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. I object to this one. We know very little about the best ways to teach; slashing the research budget seems misguided to me. This is for research on eduation and not research at educational institutions, right? Yeah, I think other research is covered elsewhere. What's "General Education" in this context, I wonder? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 25, 2012, 11:34:45 AM I think ILV has a point and I would like to know why Ben desires to cut spending on that. It barely puts a dent into the overall increase in Education spending, so I assume it is an intentional decision relating to that particular item, as opposed to it being a compensatory action for changes elsewhere in the amendment.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 25, 2012, 12:06:30 PM Frankly, it was just shifting stuff, not intentional. I'll happily revise the Amendment if people do desire.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 27, 2012, 11:37:22 AM Can we get some revised texts here then, Ben?
Move it Private, three miles up, three miles down!!! HIGH HO SILVER!!! Damn, I need to watch Band of Brothers sometime. :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 28, 2012, 12:40:51 PM Revised Amendment, leaving research/gen ed untouched.
Quote Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23...... Research and general education Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 28, 2012, 06:21:04 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:17 by Ben Education ($120.95 billion) $ $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23...... Research and general education Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 29, 2012, 10:49:41 PM Another Amendment:
Quote Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $ $ $ $ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on May 30, 2012, 02:33:45 PM Quote Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $ $ $ $ The DoEA approves. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 30, 2012, 06:26:50 PM Amendment 49:17 has been passed.
Nice text Ben, what are planning to do with it? :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2012, 08:05:21 PM Nice text Ben, what are planning to do with it? :P Check now :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 30, 2012, 08:31:59 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:19 by Ben Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $ $ $ $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on May 30, 2012, 09:50:23 PM Object
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2012, 09:56:51 PM Explanation? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on May 30, 2012, 09:58:57 PM "God no."
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2012, 10:00:27 PM You won't give an explanation? What is objectionable about increasing funding to help veterans when they are done with combat? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on May 30, 2012, 10:08:29 PM Taking a page out of your book, hun. Better idea would be to have no veterans and no combat.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2012, 10:09:59 PM Taking a page out of your book, hun. I don't understand what you mean. Better idea would be to have no veterans and no combat. My Amendment is focused on those who have already served, not future service. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on May 30, 2012, 10:13:08 PM Taking a page out of your book, hun. Better idea would be to have no veterans and no combat. Senator, I believe you've gotten lost. This is the veteran's care amendment, and you sound like you're looking for the military funding section of the budget. Just go to Section 2B amd look for something like: Quote Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid This. Have a lovely day. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on May 30, 2012, 10:17:19 PM Taking a page out of your book, hun. I don't understand what you mean. God no. I'll not be voting for this. Quote Better idea would be to have no veterans and no combat. My Amendment is focused on those who have already served, not future service. I don't support spending fortunes worth of other people's money on useless government bureaucracies benefiting only a tiny specially-privileged subset of the population. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 30, 2012, 11:10:44 PM Wow...
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 30, 2012, 11:11:43 PM specially-privileged subset of the population. What? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on May 31, 2012, 06:08:26 PM Wormyguy hates the brown man(and the poor man in general).
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on May 31, 2012, 06:56:17 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:19 by Ben Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $ $ $ $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Objection entered by Senator Wormyguy A vote is now open on Amendment 49:19, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 31, 2012, 06:56:49 PM AYE
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on May 31, 2012, 07:17:34 PM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on May 31, 2012, 09:23:44 PM Explanation? oh boy, looks like confusion about what's being debated really is a problem . . . Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: ilikeverin on May 31, 2012, 09:29:30 PM Yup ;D
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 31, 2012, 11:42:53 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 12:01:51 AM Explanation? oh boy, looks like confusion about what's being debated really is a problem . . . Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 12:03:09 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: tpfkaw on June 01, 2012, 12:06:58 AM Nay.
Explanation? oh boy, looks like confusion about what's being debated really is a problem . . . Words fail me. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 01, 2012, 12:25:22 AM Explanation? oh boy, looks like confusion about what's being debated really is a problem . . . Words fail me. ;D Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on June 01, 2012, 12:52:52 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 01:06:04 AM Uh, the President presents a decent budget and you guys want to nuke his efforts by adding a heap of wasteful spending? I encourage the Senators representing me (and the rest of you :P ) to vote against these unnecessary amendments. I see Ben continues his approach of offering no substantive reasons for anything he does while demanding that others explain their reasons for opposing. 5 infraction points for trolling to you Senator.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 01, 2012, 01:29:13 AM Ben's amendments result in a net spending increase of $42 billion dollars.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 01, 2012, 01:34:31 AM I would like to offer two amendments
Quote Income Taxes This one needs no explanation1M+ 60% Quote Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) 33 billion is spent for highways, gas tax at 12c only brings in 20 billion, I don't think we should be subsidizing them.Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 01, 2012, 01:34:38 AM As innappropriate in form as they are, Napoleon does have a point.
Perhapse I should extend my 24 hour requirement of bill sponsors to the sponsors of amendments to those bills as well. The problem is there is no tabling mechanism and I would have to use the "Frivolous, functionally impractical, etc" trash can to enforce it. It would also delay the consideration of amendments somewhat. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 01:39:52 AM Which is a 50% increase to the current projected deficit notwithstanding the optimistic revenue projections. I haven't heard anyone explain why this extra spending is necessary or what it will be used on. What is so important that the original budget didn't include?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 01, 2012, 01:46:27 AM With all this talk of new spending, I'm surprised no one's interested in discussing the spending that's been cut.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 01, 2012, 01:47:13 AM 64% of that increase in net spending is the result of the current amendment at vote, 49:19.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 01:52:00 AM 64% of that increase in net spending is the result of the current amendment at vote, 49:19. I'd like to see the changes from the last budget. Also, Shua, that reminds me that I am going to need your help with the regional budget when you get a chance. ;) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 01, 2012, 09:14:35 AM Napoleon, there's no need for you to attack me in the way that you are. It's also worth noting you aren't attacking the DoEA, which supported my Amendment, or any other Senator that has voted for them - only I am attacked.
I am working with Shua on some revenue Amendments, and if need be I accept Seatown's two Amendments as friendly. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 09:30:50 AM It's worth noting that the DoEA and other Senators aren't proposing amendments without offering any explanations and then demanding explanations from others.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 01, 2012, 09:31:49 AM It's worth noting that the DoEA and other Senators aren't proposing amendments without offering any explanations and then demanding explanations from others. Napoleon, nobody has asked for an explanation. I can certainly answer any questions you might have. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 09:33:47 AM Ill wait for someone else to answer questions I have already asked. Thanks though I guess.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 01, 2012, 09:35:52 AM Ill wait for someone else to answer questions I have already asked. Thanks though I guess. If so, please don't attack me for refusing to explain myself :) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Napoleon on June 01, 2012, 09:43:12 AM Ill wait for someone else to answer questions I have already asked. Thanks though I guess. If so, please don't attack me for refusing to explain myself :) I am simply pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 01, 2012, 09:45:26 AM I am simply pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. It's not really hypocrisy when I offer to answer the question; explanations should only be expected when actually asked. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: AndrewTX on June 01, 2012, 12:08:43 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 01, 2012, 11:57:23 PM Weird question- is there any way we could use this budget to merge departments of government and eliminate ones we don't need? Obviously, the specifics would have to be worked out, but it would be great if we could use this opportunity to cut spending and bureaucracy at the same time.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 02, 2012, 12:10:03 AM Also, an amendment.
Quote Income Taxes 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Pretty self-explanatory; this amendment will make the tax code more progressive by cutting the Income tax rate on the two lowest income groups and raising them modestly on the highest two. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 02, 2012, 10:23:25 AM This will cost us a considerable amount of tax revenue (about $150 B by my quick calculations) since so many more people pay the lower brackets.
We already tax the wealthy too much in Atlasia considering the top bracket is already 60%. I will not support making it higher while the lower brackets are this light. 35K a year is not poor; we do not need the government to try and "help" people making 35K a year. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 02, 2012, 11:28:53 AM Just FYI, I've got a big revenue Amendment coming up soon.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 02, 2012, 01:27:41 PM This will cost us a considerable amount of tax revenue (about $150 B by my quick calculations) since so many more people pay the lower brackets. We already tax the wealthy too much in Atlasia considering the top bracket is already 60%. I will not support making it higher while the lower brackets are this light. 35K a year is not poor; we do not need the government to try and "help" people making 35K a year. In a time when unemployment is still very high, it is necessary that we keep taxes on the middle-class as low as possible. I am willing to compromise on the other brackets, but taxes on the lowest bracket should absolutely be reduced. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 02, 2012, 04:53:59 PM I would like to offer two amendments Quote Income Taxes This one needs no explanation1M+ 60% Quote Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) 33 billion is spent for highways, gas tax at 12c only brings in 20 billion, I don't think we should be subsidizing them.Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 02, 2012, 06:48:55 PM Nay, simply because it is a substantial threshold to cross, without compensatory changes attached to the actually spending increase.
Vote on Amendment 49:19: Aye (7): AndrewPA, Ben, ILV, sbane, Scott, and TJ in Cleve Nay (2): NC Yankee, and Wormyguy Abstain (0): Didn't Vote (1): Clarence With seven votes in the affirmative, the amendment has passed. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 02, 2012, 06:57:04 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:21 by Seatown Income Taxes 1M+ 60% Sponsor Feedback: Uncertain Response Status: Awaiting Clarification Quote from: Amendment 49:22 by Seatown Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) Sponsor Feedback: Uncertain Response Status: Awaiting Clarificaiton Quote from: Amendment 49:23 by Scott Income Taxes 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Sponsor Feedback: No Response found within the timeout period Status: Error, please enter response ASAP!!! Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 02, 2012, 07:52:25 PM 64% of that increase in net spending is the result of the current amendment at vote, 49:19. I'd like to see the changes from the last budget. Also, Shua, that reminds me that I am going to need your help with the regional budget when you get a chance. ;) I have discussed some of the major changes in my penultimate post in the GM update thread. I think it'd be great if the President can provide more details here, though I may try to as well. I'll be glad to help with your regional budget, but I'll have more of a chance after this budget bill is squared away. This will cost us a considerable amount of tax revenue (about $150 B by my quick calculations) since so many more people pay the lower brackets. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 02, 2012, 11:42:26 PM Friendly on 49:22, unfriendly on 49:21 and 49:23.
I've got a tax Amendment dealing with corporate rates and income which will add at least $50B, so if we could please hold off on income and corporate rates until then, it'd be much appreciated. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 03, 2012, 12:55:59 AM Friendly on 49:22, unfriendly on 49:21 and 49:23. I've got a tax Amendment dealing with corporate rates and income which will add at least $50B, so if we could please hold off on income and corporate rates until then, it'd be much appreciated. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 12:55:49 PM For now, I will withdraw my amendment. I still think we need to cut taxes on the lowest income group, but I would like to see what Ben has to offer first.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 05:06:31 PM Here's my Amendment related to income and corporate taxes, resulting in a net increase of $35.5B from the original.
Quote Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 170K-368K 368K-1M 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ rates 0-50K 50-75K 75K-100K 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 15M+ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 03, 2012, 05:12:15 PM $44.5 B actually. ( of course, those numbers are just estimates)
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Frodo on June 03, 2012, 05:25:50 PM Here's my Amendment related to income and corporate taxes, resulting in a net increase of $35.5B from the original. Quote Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 170K-368K 368K-1M 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ rates 0-50K 50-75K 75K-100K 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 15M+ ----------------------- How high can taxes be raised on the wealthy before the law of diminishing returns kicks in? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on June 03, 2012, 05:32:35 PM How high can taxes be raised on the wealthy before the law of diminishing returns kicks in? Up to 100%, since Shua isn't factoring in Laffer Curve effects (which is silly, IMO). Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 05:44:43 PM $44.5 B actually. ( of course, those numbers are just estimates) Even better :D And Frodo, I'd argue not much higher than the 64% we're at now. The historic peacetime high was 79% in 1936, and that was for people making $80.7M. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 06:27:57 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:21 by Seatown Income Taxes 1M+ 60% Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Quote from: Amendment 49:22 by Seatown Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) Sponsor Feedback: Hostile Status: On hold per request of sponsor Quote from: Amendment 49:23 by Scott Income Taxes 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Withdrawn Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 06:32:52 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:24 by Ben Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 170K-368K 368K-1M 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ rates 0-50K 50-75K 75K-100K 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 15M+ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 06:48:10 PM Yank, 49:22 was friendly; 49:21 was not.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 06:52:16 PM Yank, 49:22 was friendly; 49:21 was not. WHY CAN'T YOU DO STUFF IN NUMERICAL ORDER?!!!! This is all your fault!!!! :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 06:54:05 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:21 by Seatown Income Taxes 1M+ 60% Sponsor Feedback: Hostile Status: On hold by request of the Amendment Sponsor Quote from: Amendment 49:22 by Seatown Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Quote from: Amendment 49:23 by Scott Income Taxes 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Withdrawn Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on June 03, 2012, 07:01:07 PM Object
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 07:05:27 PM To which one? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 07:11:23 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:22 by Seatown Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Objection entered by Senator Wormyguy, Vote pending. I need to leave soon, so this may have to wait till tomorrow. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 07:13:10 PM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 07:16:59 PM This bill doesn't have a vote on it at present. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 07:21:40 PM This bill doesn't have a vote on it at present. Oh, my mistake. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on June 03, 2012, 07:27:13 PM This bill doesn't have a vote on it at present. Oh, my mistake. Now there's a campaign ad: "Senator Scott is so liberal he voted for more spending and taxation, even when it wasn't possible to do so!" At least it would be an ad, if you weren't running against a socialist :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 07:27:39 PM This bill doesn't have a vote on it at present. Oh, my mistake. Now there's a campaign ad: "Senator Scott is so liberal he voted for more spending and taxation, even when it wasn't possible to do so!" At least it would be an ad, if you weren't running against a socialist :P Derp. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 03, 2012, 08:02:11 PM Does anyone know what are we spending on the equivalent of Indian affairs?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 03, 2012, 08:06:02 PM How high can taxes be raised on the wealthy before the law of diminishing returns kicks in? Up to 100%, since Shua isn't factoring in Laffer Curve effects (which is silly, IMO). Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 08:24:00 PM Weird question- is there any way we could use this budget to merge departments of government and eliminate ones we don't need? Obviously, the specifics would have to be worked out, but it would be great if we could use this opportunity to cut spending and bureaucracy at the same time. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on June 03, 2012, 09:02:21 PM How high can taxes be raised on the wealthy before the law of diminishing returns kicks in? Up to 100%, since Shua isn't factoring in Laffer Curve effects (which is silly, IMO). Yeah, you're doing a sorta logarithmic thing I understand (and even that caused a spaz-out from somebody), but you'd still have revenues going up all the way to 100%, which is still silly. You have to have an inflection point somewhere, even over a one-year timespan. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 03, 2012, 09:57:08 PM I object to Amendment 49:24:
Quote from: Amendment 49:24 by Ben Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 170K-368K 368K-1M 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ rates 0-50K 50-75K 75K-100K 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 15M+ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 10:39:32 PM Not a fan of the higher rich tax rates, TJ? ;)
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 03, 2012, 10:42:17 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:22 by Seatown Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: A Vote is now open the above amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 03, 2012, 10:42:33 PM Not a fan of the higher rich tax rates, TJ? ;) No. I'm not going to support raising a rate already at 60%, or making the top corporate rate 44% (!). That's too much of other peoples' money right there. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2012, 10:44:34 PM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 03, 2012, 10:48:42 PM Aye on Seatown's gas Amendment.
No. I'm not going to support raising a rate already at 60%, or making the top corporate rate 44% (!). That's too much of other peoples' money right there. Yes, but it's 44% on corporations making at least $15M, a significant amount. Those who can pay more, should. We're reducing rates on those who cannot afford to pay, while upping them on those who can. That's simple fairness, and it makes economic sense, as we're making more now than we did under the original rates. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 03, 2012, 11:00:18 PM Aye on Seatown's gas Amendment. No. I'm not going to support raising a rate already at 60%, or making the top corporate rate 44% (!). That's too much of other peoples' money right there. Yes, but it's 44% on corporations making at least $15M, a significant amount. Those who can pay more, should. We're reducing rates on those who cannot afford to pay, while upping them on those who can. That's simple fairness, and it makes economic sense, as we're making more now than we did under the original rates. How are those companies supposed to grow, invest, add jobs to our economy, or heaven forbid, earn money for their shareholders if we're taking 44% of of their profits!? Large companies employ a lot of people and such a drastic increase in their taxes cannot be good for the economy. I understand the larger companies and wealthier individuals can contribute more money to the government. I'm not advocating a flat tax. But this is too far. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: tpfkaw on June 03, 2012, 11:01:27 PM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 04, 2012, 12:39:10 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on June 04, 2012, 12:59:57 AM Aye on the gasoline tax.
I will not be supporting the higher tax on corporations. Those taxes are passed on to the consumers or it leads to lower hiring. Income taxes are already high as well, so I don't see the need to raise rates there as well. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2012, 01:00:49 PM Yup ;D on the gas tax.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 10, 2012, 05:05:06 PM Vote on Amendment 49:22 by Seatown:
Aye (5): Ben, ILV, sbane, Scott and Seatown Nay (1): Wormyguy Abstain (0): Didn't Vote (4): AndrewCT, Clarence, NC Yankee and TJ in Cleve The amendment has passed. I will start the next one tomorrow. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: AndrewTX on June 10, 2012, 06:06:03 PM Sorry for being late, but Aye FTR. I was having a problem getting internet yesterday for some reason.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 10, 2012, 06:35:13 PM Except that it ended at 10 PM on Friday. :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 10, 2012, 10:24:46 PM I've been doing some research and working on improving my revenue models.
I'm thinking now those revenue figures I gave Ben should be considered optimistic :-\ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 12, 2012, 11:37:01 AM Could he revise the amendment based on a more concrete analysis? How long would it take to get those numbers and revise the text?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 12, 2012, 06:44:28 PM Could he revise the amendment based on a more concrete analysis? How long would it take to get those numbers and revise the text? I'm estimating it now as being still revenue positive compared to the current structure, but more like $10 billion rather than $50 billion. Also, we can reduce the healthcare expenditures down to about $950 billion now that the new bill is passed. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 13, 2012, 04:57:15 PM Okay Ben, it's your turn! >:D Bwahahaha!!! >:D :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 13, 2012, 09:06:35 PM Okay Ben, it's your turn! >:D Bwahahaha!!! >:D :P Hmm? If I can get numbers from Shua I can revise the Amendment, and I'm also looking into some spending cuts. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 14, 2012, 11:37:58 AM The current income tax system is really unfair to the wealthy as the highest bracket is over half of their income and the second one is half, while many in this country pay absolutely nothing in income taxes. I would like to eliminate the 60% tax bracket without wrecking the almost-balanced nature of the budget. Here’s my attempt at an amendment:
Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50 Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax ( Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,976.3 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($ $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $9 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 2 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $ $ International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ( Non-Defense Energy Spending ( $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ( $57.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion) $299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $ Tax Credits $ TOTAL Expenditures $ REVENUE EXPENDITURES BALANCE Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 14, 2012, 11:38:26 AM Basically I:
-Changed the individual income tax rates to make the system fairer -Added the proposed gas tax increase -Cut the Corporate Clean Energy Credit by about half -Readjusted the Science Funding to stress NSF and Energy rather than the space race -Cut some of the Green Energy Fund -Cut Funding to Education Research Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 14, 2012, 12:49:17 PM TJ, does that spending include the new figures from various amendments?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 14, 2012, 01:07:00 PM TJ, does that spending include the new figures from various amendments? Originally it included just the gas tax increase, but I revised it to also include the veterans' funding increase we also passed. I think those are the only two amendments not related to income taxation we've passed, correct? Truthfully now that I've noticed that, I'll need to try and find some other things to cut so that we're at least back to where we started from in terms of budget-neutrality relative to the president's proposal. $12 B is a lot to account for... Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 14, 2012, 11:05:20 PM Here are my new calculations for Ben's amendment. net is $14.3 B.
Quote Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 170K-368K 368K-1M 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ rates 0-50K 50-75K 75K-100K 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 15M+ Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:04:08 AM I can't support those upper-end tax increases... I understand the desire, but no, can't support that at all.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tmthforu94 on June 15, 2012, 12:16:13 AM TJ, does that spending include the new figures from various amendments? Originally it included just the gas tax increase, but I revised it to also include the veterans' funding increase we also passed. I think those are the only two amendments not related to income taxation we've passed, correct? Truthfully now that I've noticed that, I'll need to try and find some other things to cut so that we're at least back to where we started from in terms of budget-neutrality relative to the president's proposal. $12 B is a lot to account for... Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:19:09 AM Senator TJ...
Are you proposing increasing taxes on lower and middle-income people to give the wealthy a cut? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 15, 2012, 12:21:37 AM I'll be fair and say that 60% is a tad high for anyone to pay, but there definitely shouldn't be taxes for people of such an extremely low income group like students, as the Vice President mentioned.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:25:38 AM I agree that 60% is too high a tax rate - it was my first-term tax plan that lifted the tax-free threshold to $9500.
I wouldn't support either tax amendment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Napoleon on June 15, 2012, 12:27:08 AM Senator TJ... Are you proposing increasing taxes on lower and middle-income people to give the wealthy a cut? Whig War on Workers :P ;) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 15, 2012, 12:27:48 AM Senator TJ... Are you proposing increasing taxes on lower and middle-income people to give the wealthy a cut? Our taxation system is too progressive. I am proposing everyone who has income ought to pay some small amount of income taxes, hoping to remove the 60% tax bracket. Other than that, I am not proposing to cut income taxes for other wealthy brackets. Atlasia is full of poorer young people who pay no taxes, thus have been voting for a progressive scale for so long that the brackets have become absurd. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 15, 2012, 12:28:52 AM Of course everyone on here can give token complaint that 60% is too high, but I'm the only one who has tried to propose doing anything about it.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:30:45 AM The 60% bracket is too high, as I've said - but a tax-free threshold is there for a reason. I won't support any Budget which hits the poorest the hardest.
If someone wants to propose a cut in upper rate... without slugging the lower end to make it up... go ahead and I'll look at it. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 15, 2012, 12:37:15 AM How about instead...
Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ I think this would make for a good compromise. The downside of this, however, would be a steep decline in revenue... Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tmthforu94 on June 15, 2012, 12:40:10 AM As the great American Senator Dick Lugar would say...
Why not a flat tax? ;) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:41:42 AM How about instead... Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 2.5M+ I think this would make for a good compromise. The downside of this, however, would be a steep decline in revenue... I like the intent... but those are MASSIVE hits to revenue in one year... if you want to propose cuts of that nature, best to phase them in over a few years. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 15, 2012, 12:45:17 AM Would this be a workable amendment?
Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M Fiscal Year 2012: 48% Fiscal Year 2013: 46% Fiscal Year 2014: 44% 2.5M+ Fiscal Year 2012: 57% Fiscal Year 2013: 54% Fiscal Year 2014: 51% Fiscal Year 2015: 49% Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 15, 2012, 12:49:33 AM Would this be a workable amendment? Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M Fiscal Year 2012: 48% Fiscal Year 2013: 46% Fiscal Year 2014: 44% 2.5M+ Fiscal Year 2012: 57% Fiscal Year 2013: 54% Fiscal Year 2014: 51% Fiscal Year 2015: 49% I'd be good to get some work on revenue derived from this option, I could see myself supporting this, or something like it. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 15, 2012, 01:00:15 AM I can't support those upper-end tax increases... I understand the desire, but no, can't support that at all. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 15, 2012, 01:23:46 AM Would this be a workable amendment? Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M Fiscal Year 2012: 48% Fiscal Year 2013: 46% Fiscal Year 2014: 44% 2.5M+ Fiscal Year 2012: 57% Fiscal Year 2013: 54% Fiscal Year 2014: 51% Fiscal Year 2015: 49% If you have a flat tax, changes in rates over time are not too hard to figure, but with a graduated tax, it can get very complicated :-\. I tend to think it makes sense to reduce it as much as you think you can now, and then let future governments do with it what they will - since more likely than not they will change anyway. What is the reason behind waiting to reduce the rates anyway? That's the opposite of what I would expect if you are going for a countercyclical policy. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 15, 2012, 05:29:46 PM You know when you offer an amendment then proceed to change it two or three times, you kind of are telling me the equivalent of telling a dog to sit and come here at the same time. If you are deliberating texts with a working draft that changes based on the discussion, refrain from using the word "amendment" until you are finished. :P Otherwise I have to treat them all as individual amendments. :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 15, 2012, 05:31:42 PM Sorry, Yankee. I have not proposed an amendment, yet.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 15, 2012, 05:36:26 PM Your phrasing is fine since you used the word "would" in ahead of the word "amendment". Technicalities! :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on June 16, 2012, 10:33:04 PM Also, you can't put in tax reductions/changes for later years in a budget for this year, or at very least they won't be binding.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on June 16, 2012, 10:51:41 PM As the great American Senator Dick Lugar would say... Why not a flat tax? ;) One of the things I agree with both Lugar and the VP. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 17, 2012, 03:47:13 AM As the great American Senator Dick Lugar would say... Why not a flat tax? ;) One of the things I agree with both Lugar and the VP. not while I have breath in my body and the strength to sign a pen :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on June 17, 2012, 05:35:02 AM As the great American Senator Dick Lugar would say... Why not a flat tax? ;) One of the things I agree with both Lugar and the VP. not while I have breath in my body and the strength to sign a pen :P How about we remove all taxes (including payroll, estate, and capital gains) with a 9% business transaction tax, a 9% personal income tax, and a 9% federal sales tax? It's simple, transparent, and fair. It's a solutions revolution! Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 17, 2012, 09:14:13 AM Hmmm.... I wonder if we vetted you properly.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Donerail on June 17, 2012, 09:19:58 AM Hmmm.... I wonder if we vetted you properly. I was entirely properly vetted for SoEA, a job which, while including several important functions, has the added benefit of keeping me far, far away from anything to do with our tax code :P I forgot to mention, you can get income tax credits for charitable donations and for living in an empowerment zone. PM me if you want the empowerment zones gerrymandered to include your place of residence. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 17, 2012, 08:47:02 PM I’m going to give this another try (my last amendment is withdrawn). Since it isn’t financially feasible to cut out the 60% bracket entirely without coming up with more cuts, I’m proposing to split the difference and make it 55%. Here’s my newest amendment attempt:
Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 0 0 9.5K-35K 13 65.8 B 35K-80K 24 224.2 B 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50 175.2 B 2.5M+ Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax ( Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($ $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $9 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 2 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $ $ International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ( Non-Defense Energy Spending ( $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ( $57.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion) $299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $ Tax Credits $ TOTAL Expenditures $ REVENUE EXPENDITURES BALANCE [/quote] Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 17, 2012, 11:47:58 PM TJ, this doesn't include the most up to date spending figures.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 18, 2012, 09:38:37 AM What amendments did I miss?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 18, 2012, 01:15:35 PM here are the GM's projected costs for ANH if someone is interested in submitting it as an amendment:
Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 18, 2012, 01:35:14 PM Education.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 20, 2012, 05:27:39 PM Come on people, this is getting ridiculous here. Start communicating directly if required.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 21, 2012, 10:41:45 PM Sorry for making this much more complicated than it needs to be.
I'm withdrawing all of my previous amendments and just proposing this: Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 0 0 9.5K-35K 13 65.8 B 35K-80K 24 224.2 B 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M+ 50 ... Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 21, 2012, 10:46:53 PM Sorry for making this much more complicated than it needs to be. I'm withdrawing all of my previous amendments and just proposing this: Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 0 0 9.5K-35K 13 65.8 B 35K-80K 24 224.2 B 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50 ... Careful... based off of this, it looks like you can pay nothing if you have over $2.5 M. :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 21, 2012, 10:52:16 PM Sorry for making this much more complicated than it needs to be. I'm withdrawing all of my previous amendments and just proposing this: Quote WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 0 0 9.5K-35K 13 65.8 B 35K-80K 24 224.2 B 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M+ 50 ... Careful... based off of this, it looks like you can pay nothing if you have over $2.5 M. :P Thanks... I seemed doomed to mistakes in amendment proposals in this thread for some reason. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 22, 2012, 12:43:01 AM I still don't see a rate for those making over 2.5M
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 22, 2012, 10:31:41 PM Don't worry it's not as if I am going to eat you guys for continuing to not get your act together. NOT!!!!! >:D
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 22, 2012, 10:34:06 PM I still don't see a rate for those making over 2.5M Look at the bracket above it. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 22, 2012, 11:32:39 PM Ah, of course. I'll deem the Amendment friendly.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 22, 2012, 11:46:49 PM my calculation is $443 billion for the new bracket.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 23, 2012, 07:24:29 AM There is no hope anymore, only despair. ::)
Ah yes, barbecue just like mother used to make. >:D Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 23, 2012, 04:27:40 PM I object to the amendment.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 23, 2012, 04:35:11 PM Amendment:
Quote Income Taxes Secretary can give his estimate on FTT, if he doesn't like mine.by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Frodo on June 23, 2012, 05:12:55 PM What is the current tax on executive compensation packages -if there is any?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 23, 2012, 05:14:38 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:30 by TJ in Cleve WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ by tax bracket 0-9.5K 0 0 9.5K-35K 13 65.8 B 35K-80K 24 224.2 B 80K-170K 28 250.1 B 170K-368K 35 239.8 B 368K-1M 40 214.7 B 1M+ 50 ... Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Objection Filed by Senator Seatown. Vote Pending (this means it is coming, it is not started yet. :P) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 23, 2012, 05:28:12 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:31 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Service hung at startup Status: Statsvc depends on Sponsor Feedback which has failed with the following arguements: The pipe state is invalid. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 23, 2012, 06:42:17 PM Seatown is friendly
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 25, 2012, 05:23:53 PM A vote is now open on Amendment 49:30 by TJ in Cleve, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
Senators have 24 hours to object to Amendment 49:31 by Seatown READ THIS POST CAREFULLY!!! I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT CONFUSED BULLsh**t LIKE THE LAST TIME I DID THIS!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 25, 2012, 05:43:01 PM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 25, 2012, 05:43:38 PM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 25, 2012, 05:47:13 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 25, 2012, 06:51:39 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 25, 2012, 08:15:15 PM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on June 25, 2012, 08:18:36 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on June 25, 2012, 11:58:07 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: AndrewTX on June 26, 2012, 08:23:56 AM Eh, aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: ilikeverin on June 26, 2012, 08:27:44 AM Yup ;D
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 26, 2012, 08:26:25 PM Vote on Final Passage of Amendment 49:30:
Aye (7): AndrewPA, Clarence, ILV, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott and TJ in Cleve Nay (2): Ben and Seatown Abstain (0): Didn't Vote (1): Wormyguy With seven votes in the affirmative, the amendment has passed. Amendment 49:31 has passed with no objection. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 26, 2012, 08:33:25 PM Quote 9,500-20,000 5% 20,001-100,000 10% 100,001-500,000 20% 500,001-5,000,000 30% 5,000,001+ 40 % Gifts and prize winnings are immune from taxation. Was asked to offer this text as an amendment by non-constituent Atlasian citizen and officeholder. Since I am in a generous mood I will post it for review, eventhough the person who requested it was not a resident of the IDS. I am not offering it at this time. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on June 26, 2012, 08:37:29 PM I would like to submit an amendment that changes the healthcare costs in the proposed budget to those forecast by the GM due to the passage of the new healthcare bill.
Quote Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on June 26, 2012, 08:38:37 PM So with the passage of Amendments 49:30 and 49:31 we reduced the proposed top rate from 55% to 50% and then raised it back up to 60%?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 27, 2012, 07:29:16 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:33 by sbane Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Sponsor Feedback: No data to process Status: Searching for data Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 27, 2012, 08:02:22 PM Friendly
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 27, 2012, 08:42:54 PM Don Henley has a song called "You Can't Make Love". In this case, it should be "You Can't Fake Activity"
Of course he also has a song called "You're Not Drinking Enough", which fit just fine as is in situations like these, sbane. ;) Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 27, 2012, 08:48:09 PM Don Henley has a song called "You Can't Make Love". In this case, it should be "You Can't Fake Activity" Of course he also has a song called "You're Not Drinking Enough", which fit just fine as is in situations like these, sbane. ;) I believe Amendment 49:31 was passed first since the 24 hours expired prior to Amendment 49:30 passing by a vote. Since they are contradictory, the more recent amendment should have been adopted, erasing the effects of Amendment 49:31 which also passed. Am I correct? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 27, 2012, 08:51:05 PM I don't know. In fact I am not even sure whether or not anything happens at the end of 24 hours except for activity being locked in place as it was when it expired. Actual passage may not occur untill I declare it having ended. There has never been an instance where clarifying such was necessary. I shouldn't have put two amendments so similar with regards to what is being changed up for consideration at the same time.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 27, 2012, 11:13:03 PM Section 3 of the OSPR reads:
Quote 2. During this debate time the main sponsor of the legislation may motion to accept the proposed Amendment as a Friendly Amendment. The PPT shall then allow 24 hours for any other Senator to object to accepting the Amendment as a Friendly Amendment. If no other Senator objects then the Amendment shall be ajudged to have been unanimously passed by the Senate and will be automatically incorporated into the Bill. If a Senator objects to accepting the Amendment in this fashion then it shall be voted upon as specified in the rest of this Section. Seatown's amendment takes effect automatically when the 24 hours expires regardless of whether or not it was declared by the PPT. Thus it was negated approximately three hours later when my contradictory amendment was passed by a vote. It also does not matter whether the passage of this occurs once the necessary votes are in place or when declared by the PPT. Either way, the 6th vote occurred more than 24 hours after Seatown's amendment was announced for unanimous consent. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 28, 2012, 12:57:03 AM My inclination here is to hold a vote on one or both amendments so that all are pleased with the outcome and feel reasonably satisfied with the legitimacy of the text after this is resolved.
Is this acceptable to both amendment sponsors? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 28, 2012, 01:22:45 AM If you people had been more attentative we could get away with such "time savers". :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 28, 2012, 01:32:33 AM New Amendment
Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 28, 2012, 12:50:06 PM Actually seeing as how Seatown just re-proposed his amendment, I'm going to withdraw my previous consent and think that we ought to follow the rules as I stated before (mine passing is the current state of the bill) and we should vote on Seatown's. If his then passes, then mine would be simultaneously repealed. Does that make sense?
Yankee you're just trying to check and see if we're really paying attention :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 28, 2012, 02:13:10 PM I agree with TJ's suggestion.
Seatown's amendment is friendly. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 28, 2012, 03:02:04 PM I'm going to object to Seatown's amendment like I should have done to begin with >:D
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 28, 2012, 05:40:18 PM Except that his newly offered amendment is not the same as the one which he offered previously.
Quote from: Amendment 49:31 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Service hung at startup Status: Statsvc depends on Sponsor Feedback which has failed with the following arguements: The pipe state is invalid. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 28, 2012, 07:12:30 PM Without further clarification as to Seatown's intent, I would prefer not to move forward.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on June 28, 2012, 08:55:07 PM Without further clarification as to Seatown's intent, I would prefer not to move forward. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 29, 2012, 12:16:32 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:31 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Unfriendly Status: A vote is now open on whether or not to adopt the above language as part of the text of the underlying bill? Senators please vote, Aye, Nay, or Abstain. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 29, 2012, 12:18:44 AM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 29, 2012, 12:20:14 AM Aye. (This is a reluctant 'aye'... I hope to further resolve the tax issue after this passes or fails.)
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 29, 2012, 12:23:50 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 29, 2012, 12:24:48 AM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on June 29, 2012, 12:34:44 AM NAY
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 29, 2012, 12:46:51 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on June 29, 2012, 02:00:13 PM Nay. I like the other amendment.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 29, 2012, 09:11:15 PM Nay. I like the other amendment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Donerail on June 29, 2012, 09:26:03 PM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: tpfkaw on June 29, 2012, 10:36:11 PM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: ilikeverin on June 29, 2012, 11:54:01 PM ;D Yup
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 30, 2012, 12:14:46 AM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on June 30, 2012, 02:11:48 AM Nay. I like the other amendment. I have nothing against the financial transaction tax. I support your second amendment basically. We will vote on it in due time. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: AndrewTX on June 30, 2012, 07:04:41 AM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Donerail on June 30, 2012, 07:08:47 AM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? So your solution is to drive the little guy out of the stock market? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 30, 2012, 07:14:20 AM Vote on the adoption of Amendment 49:31:
Aye (4): Ben, ILV, Scott, and Seatown Nay (6): AndrewPA, Clarence, NC Yankee, sbane, TJ in Cleve and Wormyguy Abstain (0): Didn't Vote (0): The amendment is not adopted. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on June 30, 2012, 07:17:09 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:33 by sbane Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 30, 2012, 12:53:28 PM What does the tax code look like, as of now?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on June 30, 2012, 12:59:23 PM What does the tax code look like, as of now? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 30, 2012, 01:06:46 PM What does the tax code look like, as of now? The bill. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on June 30, 2012, 02:05:51 PM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? So your solution is to drive the little guy out of the stock market? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Donerail on June 30, 2012, 02:21:31 PM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? So your solution is to drive the little guy out of the stock market? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on June 30, 2012, 07:54:31 PM Nay. I like the other amendment. You're characterizing financial transactions as "harmful activities"? So your solution is to drive the little guy out of the stock market? At that low rate I don't expect there to be a big reduction in activity. I favor this because it hits the idle rich who only pay capital gains taxes and not income taxes which in America is much lower than the income tax rate. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on June 30, 2012, 07:59:17 PM Looks like we don't have a capital gains tax or an estate tax. I would be willing to lower income tax rates further and enact these new taxes.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 01, 2012, 04:00:33 AM Amendment
Quote Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 10% 35K-80K 24% 22% 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 01, 2012, 09:54:40 AM Friendly.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: tpfkaw on July 01, 2012, 12:09:03 PM Object.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 01, 2012, 03:04:53 PM Looks like we don't have a capital gains tax or an estate tax. I would be willing to lower income tax rates further and enact these new taxes. As for capital gains taxes, they are included in the income tax figures, but with a deduction for the lower rate which I've been assuming is at the same rate as RL. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on July 01, 2012, 04:24:13 PM Captial gains taxes are unjust and should be opposed by conservatives. The tax system should be changed as soon as this debt is eliminated and it should be replaced with a tax on consumption. Also the inheritance/estate tax should be eliminated immediately.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on July 02, 2012, 12:30:13 PM Captial gains taxes are unjust and should be opposed by conservatives. The tax system should be changed as soon as this debt is eliminated and it should be replaced with a tax on consumption. Also the inheritance/estate tax should be eliminated immediately. Tell me, why is it unjust to take money from those who haven't earned it rather than those who have? Investments is pretty much luck, and inheritance was earned by your rich daddy. You didn't do anything, the market/your parents did. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on July 02, 2012, 05:52:09 PM Captial gains taxes are unjust and should be opposed by conservatives. The tax system should be changed as soon as this debt is eliminated and it should be replaced with a tax on consumption. Also the inheritance/estate tax should be eliminated immediately. Tell me, why is it unjust to take money from those who haven't earned it rather than those who have? Investments is pretty much luck, and inheritance was earned by your rich daddy. You didn't do anything, the market/your parents did. First of all I'm not from a wealthy family. Second I'd like you to look at the following passages in The Bible: On Income Taxation and Captial Gains Exodus 30:11-15 Leviticus 27:30,32 Matthew 20:1-16, 25:14-30 Luke 19:12-27 On Inheritence and Estate Taxes Proverbs 13:22, 19:14 1 Chronicles 28:8 Ezra 9:12 That is why the Founders were more supportive of what are known as consumption or sales taxes Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on July 02, 2012, 08:20:40 PM Captial gains taxes are unjust and should be opposed by conservatives. The tax system should be changed as soon as this debt is eliminated and it should be replaced with a tax on consumption. Also the inheritance/estate tax should be eliminated immediately. Tell me, why is it unjust to take money from those who haven't earned it rather than those who have? Investments is pretty much luck, and inheritance was earned by your rich daddy. You didn't do anything, the market/your parents did. First of all I'm not from a wealthy family. Second I'd like you to look at the following passages in The Bible: On Income Taxation and Captial Gains Exodus 30:11-15 Leviticus 27:30,32 Matthew 20:1-16, 25:14-30 Luke 19:12-27 On Inheritence and Estate Taxes Proverbs 13:22, 19:14 1 Chronicles 28:8 Ezra 9:12 That is why the Founders were more supportive of what are known as consumption or sales taxes I wasn't saying anything about you personally, Mr. Libertas. I was simply using 'you' as a stand-in for longer, more unwieldy descriptions ("This hypothetical rich guy; let's call him Mitt"). And I don't see why we should be using the Bible as a source of legislation. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 02, 2012, 08:29:22 PM *ah hem*
The Bible is not an instruction manual for governments to consult with. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 02, 2012, 08:32:17 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:33 by sbane Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object ^ This has passed, I think. :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 02, 2012, 08:32:42 PM In cases like this, we should let the post self-ridicule, and abstain from further posts to let the hilarity sink in.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 02, 2012, 08:37:20 PM I think an updated current text is in order before proceeding. Sadly, I may not have a chance to get to that tonight, so if someone else loves pain and wants to do it before tomorrow, go right ahead. :P
Quote from: Amendment 49:36 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 10% 35K-80K 24% 22% 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Objection entered by Senator Wormyguy, vote pending as soon as updated current text is finished (tentatively expected no later then tomorrow some time). Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 02, 2012, 08:39:37 PM In cases like this, we should let the post self-ridicule, and abstain from further posts to let the hilarity sink in. This is the Senate, a functioning body, not some stupid Forum Community or 2012 Board post. Engaging in playground bullsh**t such as that will hamper debate on a bill that has already suffered from enough delay. Just ignore the stupidity and keep going as if it didn't happen. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 02, 2012, 08:45:57 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:13 by Ben General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $ $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $ Sponsor Feedback: Origination Status: Senators have 24 hours to object. I don't see where I ever closed this one, but under the TJ doctrine, it has bee passed May 26th. :P Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 02, 2012, 09:01:02 PM These amendments have been passed:
49:13 49:17 49:19 49:22 49:30 49:33 Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: ilikeverin on July 04, 2012, 10:15:47 AM That is why the Founders were more supportive of what are known as consumption or sales taxes ...you can ask many of us our preferences about taxes, and I think we'd be much more in favor of income taxes than sales taxes. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 04, 2012, 10:24:23 AM JCL, the Bible is not a guide to economic policy.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 04, 2012, 11:43:42 PM Quote from: Current Text In Construction WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 65.8 B 35K-80K 24% 224.2 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50% 175.2 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (12 cents/gallon) $ 19.2 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion) $299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $2,978.5 Billion EXPENDITURES -$3,085.87 billion BALANCE -$ 107.37 Billion 49:13 added 49:17 added 49:19 added Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 04, 2012, 11:55:25 PM An amendment:
Quote Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 05, 2012, 12:02:03 AM For god sakes don't show me another amendment right now. Get the current text finished.
Since most of the crap I just had to add was Ben's and Ben has just showed me another amendment at a time when I am not in the mood to see such with regards to this bill, Ben has just volunteered to finish the current text as presently constituted. You have 24 hours. :P The scrolling issue and the slow navigation between pages is making it pure murder for me to continue. I will also require that all subsequent amendments alter the entire text, since changes at the top impact the totals at the bottom. All future amendments after Seatown's two yet unconsidered amendments shall be required to be in the above stated format and failure to comply will result in my sh**t canning them under Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1 of the OSPR. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 05, 2012, 12:04:42 AM An amendment: Quote Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities This amendment is not in compliance with Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1 of the OSPR, please rectify within the next 24 hours. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 05, 2012, 12:15:32 AM Reformatted:
Quote from: Current Text In Construction WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 65.8 B 35K-80K 24% 224.2 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M-2.5M 50% 175.2 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (12 cents/gallon) $ 19.2 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion) $299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $2,978.5 Billion EXPENDITURES -$3,046.82 billion BALANCE -$ 68.33 Billion 49:13 added 49:17 added 49:19 added Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 05, 2012, 12:34:00 AM Ah Ben, that wasn't finished yet. :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 05, 2012, 01:44:05 PM Then I withdraw the amendment, and will reintroduce it when we have a finished copy.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 05, 2012, 10:52:46 PM Yea, how much longer will that be taken, by the way Ben? :P
For god sakes don't show me another amendment right now. Get the current text finished. Since most of the crap I just had to add was Ben's and Ben has just showed me another amendment at a time when I am not in the mood to see such with regards to this bill, Ben has just volunteered to finish the current text as presently constituted. You have 24 hours. :P The scrolling issue and the slow navigation between pages is making it pure murder for me to continue. I will also require that all subsequent amendments alter the entire text, since changes at the top impact the totals at the bottom. All future amendments after Seatown's two yet unconsidered amendments shall be required to be in the above stated format and failure to comply will result in my sh**t canning them under Article 4, Section 2, Clause 1 of the OSPR. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2012, 12:03:53 AM Yikes. That may take a while.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 06, 2012, 12:26:55 AM Come on, I did half and the harder half at that. :P I also made a list of passed amendments up above and listed the ones that have already been included.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Napoleon on July 06, 2012, 12:34:29 AM You guys are going to have to deal with me now. >:D
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2012, 12:42:28 AM I think this is correct, with my latest amendment included in the text, but I might be wrong:
Quote from: Current Text In Construction WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 63.8 B 35K-80K 22% 219.7 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M+ 50% 422.3 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,771.19 billion BALANCE $ 281.21 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 06, 2012, 12:44:37 AM Hold on, you say you already included your latest amendment in the text? The purpose was to create a clean text of the current bill so that we can see where it stands now and how to apply Seatown's should they be passed or failed.
Then you can copy and past that text, modify it to reflect your amendment and then specify that you are offering it as an amendment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2012, 12:45:27 AM Hold on, you say you already included your latest amendment in the text? The purpose was to create a clean text of the current bill so that we can see where it stands now and how to apply Seatown's should they be passed or failed. Not in the calculations, no. I wasn't clear. The calculations do not include my Amendment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 06, 2012, 12:48:27 AM Can you please post a version that doesn't include your amendment at all and label it "Current Final Text" in the Quote Bracket
Then take what you just posted, alter all the totals to reflect the amendment and label it "Amendment Offered" in the Quote Bracket. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2012, 12:50:01 AM Quote from: Current Text WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 63.8 B 35K-80K 22% 219.7 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M+ 50% 422.3 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,771.19 billion BALANCE $ 281.21 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2012, 12:52:05 AM Quote from: Amendment Offered WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 63.8 B 35K-80K 22% 219.7 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M+ 50% 422.3 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,732.15 billion BALANCE $ 320.25 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 06, 2012, 01:03:44 AM Can we increase the health spending at least back by half of what was cut? Do you guys really think that a 20-25% cut to healthcare spending will go over well?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Napoleon on July 06, 2012, 01:04:45 AM Can we increase the health spending at least back by half of what was cut? Do you guys really think that a 20-25% cut to healthcare spending will go over well? This reflects a previous cut, it isnt a new adjustment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Sbane on July 06, 2012, 01:30:08 AM Why don't we pass the amendent proposed with a top rate of 50% and rate cuts for lower income people as well? And add in some payroll tax cuts on top of that? We would need to see how much we could cut while still maintaining a surplus.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 06, 2012, 06:06:35 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 06, 2012, 06:09:49 AM Is that $117 billion how much the amendment adds to revenue after considering the net affect of the changes within the amendment?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 06, 2012, 08:24:54 PM Is that $117 billion how much the amendment adds to revenue after considering the net affect of the changes within the amendment? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 11, 2012, 08:14:57 AM Kalwejt can you declare his amendment as passed?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 11, 2012, 08:20:04 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:36 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 10% 35K-80K 24% 22% 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Objection entered by Worms, Vote pending completion of previous business. (Kalwejt can start this when he declares Seatown's previous amendment passed). Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 12, 2012, 04:03:13 PM http://www.cpegonline.org/workingpapers/CPEGWP2010-2.pdf
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 13, 2012, 05:37:35 AM WHERE THE F ARE YOU KALWEJT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 14, 2012, 07:48:56 AM Amendment 49:34 has passed.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 14, 2012, 07:51:12 AM Quote from: Amendment 49:36 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 10% 35K-80K 24% 22% 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M-2.5M 50% 2.5M+ 60% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Objection entered by Senator Wormyguy. Senators this amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 14, 2012, 10:23:49 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 14, 2012, 11:08:14 AM Nay. I think the tax code we just passed is much better.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Redalgo on July 14, 2012, 12:32:06 PM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on July 14, 2012, 03:40:15 PM Does the current budge(without :36) have the Financial transaction tax?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Sbane on July 14, 2012, 10:43:01 PM Does the current budge(without :36) have the Financial transaction tax? Yes, Amendment 49:34 does include the financial transaction tax with a top tax rate of 50% and the rate reductions on the bottom two brackets. That is what I support. Nay on Amendment 49:36. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: LastVoter on July 15, 2012, 08:18:53 PM Aye, I'll introduce a new amendment just giving the tax cuts to the lower brackets.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 16, 2012, 07:33:29 AM Nay
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 16, 2012, 07:34:52 AM Does the current budge(without :36) have the Financial transaction tax? Ah, didn't we just pass this amendment by you? Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 16, 2012, 10:21:57 PM Nay on 49:36
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: LastVoter on July 17, 2012, 12:23:53 AM Does the current budge(without :36) have the Financial transaction tax? Ah, didn't we just pass this amendment by you? Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Sponsor Feedback: Friendly Status: Senators have 24 hours to object Then Nay. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Amendment at Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 17, 2012, 08:08:40 AM Amendment 49:34 has passed. Yes, I declared it passed right here. ^ I said before, that the 49:36 was waiting to be voted on because Kalwejt hadn't declared 49:34 as having passed. When I took back over the Senate, I declared 49:34 as passed and then started a vote on 49:36. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 17, 2012, 08:11:52 AM Vote on Amendment 49:36 by Seatown:
Aye (1): Ben Nay (7): NC Yankee, Redalgo, sbane, Scott, Seatown, TJ in Cleve, and Wormyguy Abstain (0): Didn't Vote (2): AndrewPA and Clarence The amendment has failed. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 17, 2012, 08:13:55 AM ALL SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS MUST CONTAIN ENTIRE TEXT AND ALTER ALL TOTALS AND SUBTOTALS!!!
Ben, you had the next amendment, right? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 17, 2012, 12:58:46 PM Quote from: Amendment Offered WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 63.8 B 35K-80K 22% 219.7 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M+ 50% 422.3 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($ $ $ $ $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $ $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,732.15 billion BALANCE $ 320.25 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: MyRescueKittehRocks on July 17, 2012, 09:26:41 PM Can't we cut something from somewhere other than military spending? Try cutting domestic for once.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Redalgo on July 17, 2012, 09:39:32 PM Is there a chance ya'll would be willing to humor me by including in amendment-proposing posts a list either at the posts' beginnings or ends detailing what is being changed from what to what? I simply ask because it seems very confusing to me what the state of the budget is at any given time and what in particular amendments are aiming to change. To be honest, am not even sure what I've been voting either for or against since entering this thread.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 17, 2012, 10:34:03 PM To our GM/SoEA/Amendment Sponsor:
How would the proposed military budget cuts affect our operations? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Napoleon on July 17, 2012, 10:57:25 PM This is becoming a time waster. Either create a budget slot, pass this damn thing as is, or take up your pet issues in their own bills. Two months is long enough.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 17, 2012, 11:01:08 PM When does the previous budget expire, anyway? Are we in government shutdown mode, yet? :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 17, 2012, 11:08:48 PM Can't we cut something from somewhere other than military spending? Try cutting domestic for once. I deem these cuts perfectly fine without damaging or operations. I hope I have the credibility to propose these cuts. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 18, 2012, 12:32:31 AM Can't we cut something from somewhere other than military spending? Try cutting domestic for once. I deem these cuts perfectly fine without damaging or operations. I hope I have the credibility to propose these cuts. I think this budget process was a bit of a mess from the start since the changes from the current budget and current laws were never specified in the introduced text. There are several programs passed in the past few sessions, for instance, that are completely unfunded by this budget and there has been no discussion about this. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 18, 2012, 08:46:26 AM Is there a chance ya'll would be willing to humor me by including in amendment-proposing posts a list either at the posts' beginnings or ends detailing what is being changed from what to what? I simply ask because it seems very confusing to me what the state of the budget is at any given time and what in particular amendments are aiming to change. To be honest, am not even sure what I've been voting either for or against since entering this thread. The old stuff is being struck out like this: I wish we would also bold the new stuff like so, which would help: 262 These numbers are fakes to provide examples. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 18, 2012, 08:51:06 AM Ben, you need to update the text to reflect the passage of Amendment 49:34. It can be viewed a few posts up from the post you made with your amendment here. Otherwise, this amendment will repeal that.
This is becoming a time waster. Either create a budget slot, pass this damn thing as is, or take up your pet issues in their own bills. Two months is long enough. There will be several other slots opening up soon and this is actually being debated unlike some things. If there is something you want expedited, I have places I can move this one too to open the executive slot. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 19, 2012, 07:19:14 AM Ah, Ben?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 19, 2012, 03:34:13 PM Sorry, I'm at a debate camp and I don't have time to check all the numbers. Therefore, I withdraw my amendment.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 20, 2012, 07:16:31 AM Quote from: Current Text WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes: $ 1,466.3 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 13% 63.8 B 35K-80K 22% 219.7 B 80K-170K 28% 250.1 B 170K-368K 35% 239.8 B 368K-1M 40% 214.7 B 1M+ 50% 422.3 B 2.5M+ 60% 296.5 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,771.19 billion BALANCE $ 281.21 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 20, 2012, 07:19:11 AM Can someone incorporate this into the current text for me? The problem with the scrolling on my computer would make that impossible.
Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 20, 2012, 12:19:56 PM Quote from: Current Text WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 35K-80K 22% 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.33 % on each stock and similar transactions. $117 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,771.19 billion BALANCE $ 281.21 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (SHUA NEEDED IN HERE!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 21, 2012, 09:22:29 AM Thanks, Scott.
Damn it, I should have made that policy sooner. We need to update the subtotals, too. Seatown never had his rates scored by Shua. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (SHUA NEEDED IN HERE!!!) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 21, 2012, 12:16:08 PM Thanks, Scott. Damn it, I should have made that policy sooner. We need to update the subtotals, too. Seatown never had his rates scored by Shua. I'll score rates if I'm asked to. No point in me doing it if people aren't interested. Which version of the rates does he want to propose? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 22, 2012, 01:00:04 PM This and they aren't preposed, they have been passed so it is urgent you might say. :P
Can someone incorporate this into the current text for me? The problem with the scrolling on my computer would make that impossible. Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 170K-368K 35% 368K-1M 40% 1M+ 50% Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (GM SHUA IS NEEDED IN HERE!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 23, 2012, 08:00:33 AM Could you give us a time update as to how much longer it will be?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 23, 2012, 12:53:46 PM Quote from: Amendment 49:34 by Seatown Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 35K-80K 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (GM SHUA IS NEEDED IN HERE!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 24, 2012, 09:40:49 AM You speedy assistance is much appreciate shua. :)
Scott, can you add the numbers into the current text you posted and update the subtotals? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 24, 2012, 10:01:23 AM Sure-
Quote from: Current Text WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 51.2 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,978.5 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.767.9 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2787.47 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $3,085.87 billion REVENUE $3,052.4 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,771.19 billion BALANCE $ 281.21 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (GM SHUA IS NEEDED IN HERE!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 24, 2012, 10:05:14 AM Money is being transfered to the appropriate Swiss accounts as we speak. ;)
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 24, 2012, 10:06:13 AM If we are finished here, we can bring this to a vote.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 24, 2012, 10:07:24 AM Requesting final vote.
Time to put this thing to rest. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 24, 2012, 10:08:30 AM Senators this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 24, 2012, 10:14:36 AM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Redalgo on July 24, 2012, 10:51:59 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on July 24, 2012, 11:00:42 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 24, 2012, 11:01:27 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 24, 2012, 03:13:30 PM It's worth noting that this budget includes the taxes created to fund most of the programs enacted in the past few months, but not the spending for those programs. I assume they are being delayed until some future date? If you are going to cut the military budget, why not take it from the Afghanistan operations, since we only have a training force there now that will be gone in two months? *sigh* why do i even bother? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 24, 2012, 06:35:14 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on July 24, 2012, 07:24:52 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: LastVoter on July 24, 2012, 08:46:54 PM Aye
I still want the healthcare cuts explained, and what kind of coverage will be lost though. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Sbane on July 25, 2012, 01:57:59 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 25, 2012, 07:17:16 AM It's worth noting that this budget includes the taxes created to fund most of the programs enacted in the past few months, but not the spending for those programs. I assume they are being delayed until some future date? If you are going to cut the military budget, why not take it from the Afghanistan operations, since we only have a training force there now that will be gone in two months? *sigh* why do i even bother? In a large bill like this, you got to push things aggressively in order for them to not end up 10 pages back and forgotten. I have long suggested, that the best way to get something specific done is to contact a specific Senator and get him to embrace your issues and focus on them. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 25, 2012, 09:47:27 AM It's worth noting that this budget includes the taxes created to fund most of the programs enacted in the past few months, but not the spending for those programs. I assume they are being delayed until some future date? If you are going to cut the military budget, why not take it from the Afghanistan operations, since we only have a training force there now that will be gone in two months? *sigh* why do i even bother? In a large bill like this, you got to push things aggressively in order for them to not end up 10 pages back and forgotten. I have long suggested, that the best way to get something specific done is to contact a specific Senator and get him to embrace your issues and focus on them. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Napoleon on July 25, 2012, 09:49:13 AM Shua I might have to veto this and redraft it so let's talk about what programs are missing.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: AndrewTX on July 25, 2012, 09:56:57 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 25, 2012, 10:00:11 AM It's worth noting that this budget includes the taxes created to fund most of the programs enacted in the past few months, but not the spending for those programs. I assume they are being delayed until some future date? If you are going to cut the military budget, why not take it from the Afghanistan operations, since we only have a training force there now that will be gone in two months? *sigh* why do i even bother? In a large bill like this, you got to push things aggressively in order for them to not end up 10 pages back and forgotten. I have long suggested, that the best way to get something specific done is to contact a specific Senator and get him to embrace your issues and focus on them. I wasn't referring to an agenda so much as your concerns and feedback. I have longed desired for the very kind of interaction you are referring to, but laziness and apathy are powerful forces in this body and have been for quite some time. That is why I am now using the threat of tabling just to ensure that the sponsors post at least once explaining why they are pushing for their bills. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 25, 2012, 04:14:04 PM Shua I might have to veto this and redraft it so let's talk about what programs are missing. The spending portions of the Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act, the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act, the Oil Spill Protection Act, the Competition in Electricity Utilities Act; and the spending and tax portions of the Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 25, 2012, 04:19:46 PM Also, there is this that I realized due to a comment made by sbane, that should be included if you want to retain the current estate tax and the programs funded by it.
Looks like we don't have a capital gains tax or an estate tax. I would be willing to lower income tax rates further and enact these new taxes. As for capital gains taxes, they are included in the income tax figures, but with a deduction for the lower rate which I've been assuming is at the same rate as RL. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 26, 2012, 09:16:01 AM Considering the subsantial number of problems with this bill, I have decided to halt the final vote. Senators have 72 hours to object.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 26, 2012, 09:39:55 AM Shua, could you give the breakdown for the revenue collected at each marginal estate tax rate below?
Quote from: No Where Near an Amendment Estate Tax Rate Brackets $47.9 B a) $0-$5,000,000 – 0% $0 b) $5,000,001-$20,000,000 – 15% c) $20,000,001-$50,000,000 – 25% d) $50,000,001 and above – 50% e) Farmers' non-residential property shall be taxed at 50% the normal tax rate above $10,000,000. Rates Gathered from here: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Estate_Tax_Reform_Act https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Public_Housing_Act Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 26, 2012, 09:50:56 AM Quote from: No Where Near an Amendment Part II Public Housing Expenses ($8.5 Billion) $5 Billion......Public Housing Capital Fund $1 Billion......Community Development Fund $2 Billion......Neighborhood Stabilization Program $0.50 Billion...Homeless Prevention https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Public_Housing_Act I want to put them both together so as to minimize the time and hazzle to fix these problems. My policy regarding amendments to this is still in effect. They must modify all parts of the text changed as a result of the amendment. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on July 26, 2012, 10:05:10 AM Shua, could you give the breakdown for the revenue collected at each marginal estate tax rate below? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 26, 2012, 10:16:26 AM Shua, could you give the breakdown for the revenue collected at each marginal estate tax rate below? We could get by without it if absolutely necessary, but I think that if its possible we should try to include it. I will leave it up to you to decide. I plan to have this back at a final vote after the 72 hours is expired, with only slight wiggle room for 24 hour objection times on amendments. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 27, 2012, 08:26:03 AM Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act.
$2.5 billion shall be appropriated for the development of more advanced equipment capable of cleaning up and/or containing potential nuclear disasters, as well as safety equipment to prevent such disasters. $2.5 Billion https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=151499.0 the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act The Department of Energy is appropriated $500 Billion over the next 20 years to implement smart grid technologies to reduce stress on the transmission grid and increase efficiency. $50 Billion annually 3. Funding for this investment will be obtained by the imposition of a tax of 0.65 cents per kW-h to be paid by utility companies for using the grid.$23.6 Billion https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=151471.0 the Oil Spill Protection Act Section 1: Oil Profits Tax 1. Any oil company that does business within Atlasia and earns a larger quarterly profit than one billion dollars shall be subject to a 5% tax on all profits above one billion dollars in that quarter. $7.2 Billion 2. Revenue from the oil profits tax shall be diverted into a newly created Oil Spill Protection Fund which shall be used to promote research and development of new technologies to prevent environmental damages in the event of an oil spill or similar disaster, as well as to fund emergency clean-up and rebuilding measures in the aftermath of such an event. Is this 100% of the revenue? https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147896.0 the Competition in Electricity Utilities Act 1. $10 billion shall be distributed evenly among the regions for the expansion of coverage and rate protection of public electricity utilities. $10 billion https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=146922.0 and the spending and tax portions of the Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act 2. The commercial selling and smoking of marijuana cigarettes shall be subject to identical location-specific smoking regulations and cigarette tax rates as currently placed on tobacco, currently placed at $1.00 per pack. 3. The commercial selling of products including marijuana shall be subject to an additional 10% excise tax. 2 and 3 together > $8.7 Billion 4. 20% of revenue raised directly from the taxes of marijuana products specific in this or future Acts shall be directed to the construction and funding of treatment centers for alcohol, marijuana, and other drug abuses. $1.74 Billion exact figure in question, being looked into now Revenue Numbers from GM's May Report. Links to Legislation of origin are provided. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 28, 2012, 11:06:05 AM We have everything we need here to get this done I think, even without the GM who is leaving pretty soon. What we need to do now is to formulate the information into a functional amendment according to the standards I have set for this complex bill (alter entirety of the bill etc etc).
The objection period on the vote halting has until tomorrow, so that is when I plan to have the amendment formulated by. If someone else can step up and get it done sooner, I wouldn't say no, considering the extra difficulty involved for me to update such a big text. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Debating) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 28, 2012, 11:09:11 AM Quote from: Actual Current Text w/o Shua's Issues Fixed WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Excise Taxes $ 64 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax (28% tax) $ 14.9 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes $ 68.8 B Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,898.1 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.517.18 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2,517.18 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $2,815.98 billion REVENUE $2,898.1 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,815.98 billion BALANCE $ 82.12 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 28, 2012, 01:53:49 PM I just added up the revenues (not including the changes that necessitated the halting of the vote) and I got $2949.3 for total revenue rather than the 2978.5 in Scott's text.
The numbers just aren't adding up in the current text and we can't amend onto a flawed text unless we fix the flaws first. Edit: That 2978.5 hasn't been updated since we started debating this, that is why it doesn't add up. But that isn't all, it appears to be much worse then that. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 28, 2012, 02:14:57 PM Is the new pet shelter program suppose to be included in this, too?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 28, 2012, 02:51:10 PM I double checked each category and sub total to ensure that what is in there now is reflected in the totals and subtotals through the text (3 posts prior to this one, not some other text :P).
I beg that someone please double check all the numbers. All of them. Once we find out what the hell is actually in this, then we can add in the stuff that shua brought up and any other missing items. As for pet shelters, I haven't the slightest idea. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 29, 2012, 02:58:08 PM I have got about 30 minutes maybe at best before I have to go today, so it looks like we will be losing a day off my current plan to have a final vote going by tomorrow.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 12:09:06 PM 1. Estate Tax Revenue Added
2. Marijuana Tax Revenue Updated 3. Oil Spill Protection Tax Revenue Verified 4. Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Tax Revenue Verified Quote from: Amendment in Construction WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Estate Tax Revenue $47.9 B Excise Taxes $ 57.8 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax ($1/pack cigarettes plus 10% on all products)* $ 8.7 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes $ 68.8 B Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,939.8 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.517.18 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($29.0 billion) $19.0 billion ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2,517.18 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $2,815.98 billion REVENUE $2,939.8 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,815.98 billion BALANCE $ 123.82 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: AndrewTX on July 30, 2012, 12:21:53 PM That actually looks good.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 12:23:02 PM It isn't even halfway done. :P
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: AndrewTX on July 30, 2012, 12:24:33 PM So? I think it's pretty, and if you try and stop me from letting the world know, just know that you can't!
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Napoleon on July 30, 2012, 12:26:11 PM So? I think it's pretty, and if you try and stop me from letting the world know, just know that you can't! I can. Have fun in the FEMA camp! Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: AndrewTX on July 30, 2012, 12:28:05 PM Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not again!
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 12:28:28 PM 6. Afghanistan Spending Cut
Quote from: Amendment in Construction WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Estate Tax Revenue $47.9 B Excise Taxes $ 57.8 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax ($1/pack cigarettes plus 10% on all products)* $ 8.7 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes $ 68.8 B Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,939.8 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.553.72 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($10.6 billion) $600 million ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($26.47 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities $2.5 billion ...... Nuclear Cleanup/Containment Equipment Technology (Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act) Non-Defense Energy Spending ($49.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund $25 billion ..... Smart Grid development (the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act) $10 billion ..... Coverage and Rate Protection (Electricity Fairness Act) Natural resources and environment ($43.26 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources $7.2 billion ....... Oil Spill Protection Fund (Oil Spill Protection Act) Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($38.81 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety $1.74 billion ..... Drug abuse treatment (Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families Public Housing Expenses (Public Housing Act) ($8.5 Billion) $5 Billion......Public Housing Capital Fund $1 Billion......Community Development Fund $2 Billion......Neighborhood Stabilization Program $0.50 Billion...Homeless Prevention General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2,553.72 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $2,852.52 billion REVENUE $2,939.8 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,852.52 billion BALANCE $87.28 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Napoleon on July 30, 2012, 12:30:49 PM I think we should use some of the surplus to place a Slip and Slide in the FEMA camps, to entertain our imprisoned official.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 01:05:18 PM I am beginning to hit up against the Post Character Limit.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 01:49:40 PM Quote from: Amendment 50:21 by NC Yankee WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Estate Tax Revenue $47.9 B Excise Taxes $ 57.8 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax ($1/pack cigarettes plus 10% on all products)* $ 8.7 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes $ 68.8 B Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,939.8 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.553.72 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($10.6 billion) $600 million ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($26.47 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities $2.5 billion ...... Nuclear Cleanup/Containment Equipment Technology (Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act) Non-Defense Energy Spending ($49.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund $25 billion ..... Smart Grid development (the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act) $10 billion ..... Coverage and Rate Protection (Electricity Fairness Act) Natural resources and environment ($43.26 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources $7.2 billion ....... Oil Spill Protection Fund (Oil Spill Protection Act) Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($38.81 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety $1.74 billion ..... Drug abuse treatment (Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families Public Housing Expenses (Public Housing Act) ($8.5 Billion) $5 Billion......Public Housing Capital Fund $1 Billion......Community Development Fund $2 Billion......Neighborhood Stabilization Program $0.50 Billion...Homeless Prevention General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2,553.72 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $2,852.52 billion REVENUE $2,939.8 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,852.52 billion BALANCE $87.28 Billion Sponsor Feedback: NEEDED NOW!!!1 Status: Impatiently Waiting Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 30, 2012, 02:44:44 PM Friendly
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 30, 2012, 02:55:02 PM Senators have 24 hours to object.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Sbane on July 31, 2012, 12:56:41 AM Huh, looks like that huge budget surplus wasn't so huge after all.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 31, 2012, 11:11:19 PM Huh, looks like that huge budget surplus wasn't so huge after all. Yes, even before factoring in the missing stuff that shua brought up, over $100 billion just disappeared. Why did it disappear? Because it never existed, a creation of the failure to correctly alter the subtotals as the bill was amended. The amendment has passed. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 31, 2012, 11:34:48 PM Yank, are we working with a fully accurate text now?
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 01, 2012, 09:37:07 AM Yank, are we working with a fully accurate text now? I think so. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Vote Halted) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 01, 2012, 09:42:45 AM Quote from: Current Text WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL Income Taxes Income Taxes $1,376 B by tax bracket 9.5K-35K 10% 51 B 35K-80K 22% 193 B 80K-170K 28% 242 B 170K-368K 35% 234 B 368K-1M 40% 213 B 1M+ 50% 443 B Financial Transaction Tax: 0.5 % on each stock and similar transactions. $177 Billion per year Corporate Taxes: $ 378.7 B rates 0-50K 12% 50-75K 23% 75K-100K 30% 100K-335K 31% 335K-10M 33% 10M-15M 34% 15M+ 35% National Broadcaster Levy $ 18.6 B Individual (0.25% > $50K) $ 13.9 B Corporate (0.5% > $350K) $ 4.7 B Healthcare Taxes $ 697.7 B Healthcare Payroll Tax (CSSRA sec.4) $ 687.4 B 4.5% Apr-Jun 2012, 6% Jul-Aug 2012, 6.5% Sep-Dec 2012, 2013 Health Insurance Tax (ANHA sec.2c) $ 10.3 B Estate Tax Revenue $47.9 B Excise Taxes $ 57.8 B Gasoline Tax (20 cents/gallon) $ 32.0 B Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes (43 cents/pack, plus 2% or 4% for various products)* $ 6.9 B Alcohol Tax (various rates per unit, plus 4% tax)* $ 10.2 B Marijuana Tax ($1/pack cigarettes plus 10% on all products)* $ 8.7 B *(National Sin Tax Act, as amended, and Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Carbon Taxes ($25-30/ton) $ 152.7 B Domestic $ 133.6 B Carbon Import Tax $ 19.1 B Special Program Taxes $ 68.8 B Plastic Bag Tax (Environmental Fund) $ 4.9 B Chain Business Differential Tax (SBA Fund) $ 33.1 B Oil Spill Protection Tax (5% on profits > $1B) $7.2 B Electrical Power Transmission Network Tax (0.65 c/kW-h) $23.6 B Customs Duties $ 58.2 B Other Revenue (Sales, Earnings, Fees, Etc.) $ 83.4 B Total Revenue $2,939.8 Billion Budget Update: Part 2A - Tax Credits Dependent Child Tax Credit 115 B Education Tax Credits Higher Education 75 B Elementary/Secondary 3.5 B Earned Income Tax Credit 46.3 B Adoption and Foster Care Credit 1.1 B Carbon Tax Residential Relief Credits Carbon Tax Electricity Credit 11.6 B Heating Fuel Consumption Credit 6.2 B Fuel Efficiency Reimbursement 4.1 B Corporate Clean Energy Credit 2.7 B Alternate Energy R&D Credits 3.4 B Nuclear Waste Reprocessing Credit 2.9 B Public Transportation Tax Credit 6.4 B First-time Homebuyer Credit 2.8 B Retirement Savings Credits 2.5 B Individual Business Credits 2.2 B Foreign Tax Credit 13.1 B TOTAL $ 298.8 Billion Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.553.72 Trillion Military Spending ($356.63 billion) $95.00 billion ... Military personnel $115.20 billion ... Operation and maintenance $60.00 billion .... Procurement $50.00 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation $15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other $18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities $2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities Afghanistan Operations ($10.6 billion) $600 million ..... Military Operations $10.00 billion .... Reconstruction aid Military Retirement ($167.5 billion) $46.5 billion .... Military retirement $40 billion .... Income security for veterans $18 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation $ 8 billion….. Veterans mental health resources $50 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military $5 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services International affairs ($24.15 billion) $15.00 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance $3.0 billion ...... International military aid $5.0 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs $1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities General science, space, and technology ($26.47 billion) $10.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs $3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs $9.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities $2.5 billion ...... Nuclear Cleanup/Containment Equipment Technology (Comprehensive Protection of Nuclear Power Act) Non-Defense Energy Spending ($49.62 billion) $0.73 billion ...... Energy supply $1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness $0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation $12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund $25 billion ..... Smart Grid development (the Smart Grid Electrical Distribution Act) $10 billion ..... Coverage and Rate Protection (Electricity Fairness Act) Natural resources and environment ($43.26 billion) $5.45 billion ..... Water resources $9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management $3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources $8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement $4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax $5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources $7.2 billion ....... Oil Spill Protection Fund (Oil Spill Protection Act) Agriculture ($14.5 billion) $11.00 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance $3.50 billion ...... Agricultural research and services Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion) $-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs $2.17 billion ...... Postal service $-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance $7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund $1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce Transportation ($87.27 billion) $33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety $18 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act) $10 billion ...... Other Mass transit $2.81 billion ...... Railroads $17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation $5.65 billion ...... Water transportation $0.42 billion ...... Other transportation Community and regional development ($59.96 billion) $6.25 billion ...... Community development $8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development $10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance $2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing $32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association Education ($118.52 billion) $72.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education $42.72 billion ..... Higher education $3.23 billion ...... Research and general education Training, labor and unemployment ($11.6 billion) $10 billion ...... Training and employment $1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration Atlasian National Healthcare ($953.3 billion) $239.5 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership $206.0 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership $113.5 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership $191.0 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership $180.5 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership $22.8 billion ..... Central Administration Costs Non-ANH Health Spending ($38.81 billion) $4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism $29.36 billion ... Health research and training $3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety $1.74 billion ..... Drug abuse treatment (Consolidated Marijuana Regulation Act) Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion) $4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance $58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability $8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits Atlasian National Broadcaster ($6.35 billion) $4.6 billion …. Infrastructure buliding and acquisition $1.75 billion …. Initial start up costs Aid to Low-Income Families ($182.96 billion) $67 billion ..... Housing assistance $87.58 billion ..... Food stamps $21 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches) $4.8 billion ....... Child care funds $2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families Public Housing Expenses (Public Housing Act) ($8.5 Billion) $5 Billion......Public Housing Capital Fund $1 Billion......Community Development Fund $2 Billion......Neighborhood Stabilization Program $0.50 Billion...Homeless Prevention General Family Support ($27.06 billion) $8 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance $2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs $16.14 billion ..... Social and family services Administration of justice ($29.79 billion) $7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement $7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration $7.6 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities $3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system $4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance General government administration ($13.3 billion) $2.75 billion ...... Legislative functions $0.95 billion ...... Executive office programs $7.6 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations $2 billion ...... Other general government Interest on debt ($244.73 billion) $244.73 billion .... Net Interest[/size] *************************************** SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012 Direct Spending $2,553.72 billion Tax Credits $298.8 billion TOTAL Expenditures $2,852.52 billion REVENUE $2,939.8 Billion EXPENDITURES -$2,852.52 billion BALANCE $87.28 Billion Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 01, 2012, 11:56:33 AM I would really like to get this to a vote soon.
Ya feelin me, man? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Ben GTFIH NOW!!!) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 01, 2012, 11:57:54 AM I am requesting a final vote.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 01, 2012, 11:58:45 AM Senators this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 01, 2012, 12:00:36 PM Aye.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 01, 2012, 12:02:59 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on August 01, 2012, 12:13:28 PM AYE
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: TJ in Oregon on August 01, 2012, 12:54:17 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: AndrewTX on August 01, 2012, 01:36:28 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Redalgo on August 01, 2012, 01:58:20 PM Abstain - because let's face it, I have no clue what's been going on here since I was elected. xD
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 01, 2012, 06:06:30 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Sbane on August 01, 2012, 10:41:29 PM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: LastVoter on August 02, 2012, 01:08:48 AM Aye
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (At Final Vote) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 02, 2012, 01:00:17 PM One guess as to who has decline to vote on this matter. :P
Does this require a Presidential Signature once done? Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Unknown) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 02, 2012, 01:03:10 PM Vote on Final Passage of the White House Budget Proposal:
Aye (8): AndrewPA, Ben, Clarence, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott, Seatown and TJ in Cleve Nay (0): Abstain (1): Redalgo Didn't Vote (1): Tapeworms (attention getter ;D) With eight votes in the affirmative and no nays, the budget is passed. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Unknown) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 02, 2012, 01:07:03 PM Didn't Vote (1): Tapeworms (attention getter ;D) SHOCKING. Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (On the President's Desk) Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on August 02, 2012, 01:15:32 PM The Budget Process Renewal Act, or whatever it is called, makes no mention of it. To be safe I am therefore presenting it to the President for executive action.
Title: Re: SENATE BILL: WHITE HOUSE BUDGET PROPOSAL (Unknown) Post by: Napoleon on August 02, 2012, 05:06:38 PM Didn't Vote (1): Tapeworms (attention getter ;D) SHOCKING. The vote was only open for 26 hours. |