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Title: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 24, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
If Only Mrs. Clinton...

South Carolina



Obama Edges Clinton in South Carolina

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Obama 43.9%     20 Delegates
Clinton 40.2%    19 Delegates
Edwards 15.4%     06 Delegates



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Total Delegate Count


Clinton 144

Obama 125
Edwards 25


Clinton gains more from South Carolina according to polls.

Florida Polls

Rasmussen:

Clinton 50%

Obama  23%
Edwards 12%

ARG:

Clinton 62%
Obama 20%
Edwards 06%
 
Survey USA

Clinton 55%

Obama 27%
Edwards 08%


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Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: NHI on May 24, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Sounds promising.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 24, 2012, 07:25:44 PM

Clinton wins HUGE in Florida!


Clinton 57.0%     121 Delegates
Obama 29.4%      64 Delegates
Edwards 10.8%      0 Delegates




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"I am so grateful to the countless Floridians who, on their own, organized, worked hard, talked to your friends and your neighbors. You made a very big difference,"

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Total Delegate Count

Clinton 265
Obama 186
Edwards 25


Up next Super Tuesday





Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on May 24, 2012, 07:28:26 PM
Looks cool. :)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 24, 2012, 07:43:58 PM
Great so far :)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on May 24, 2012, 08:28:54 PM
The thing is, Florida and Michigan were assumed to have no delegates at the time of the contests. Weren't they?


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 24, 2012, 09:12:03 PM
The thing is, Florida and Michigan were assumed to have no delegates at the time of the contests. Weren't they?

Yes I'm just including them for now


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 24, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
A Hillary Presidency? I'd love that.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 24, 2012, 09:33:06 PM
Super Tuesday!!!

Welcome to Msnbc's Super Tuesday

Covarage

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Chris Mathews: There are gonna be a lot of eyes on Clinton tonight to see if she can hold her Momentum and take votes away from Edwards. Also there are eyes on Obama to see if he can pull out and election night shocker and get ahead in the Delegate count.

Chris Matthews: It's now 7pm ET on the east coast and we can now Project our first state of Georgia to Senator Obama, the African American Vote Surely helped him in the state.

Obama Wins Georgia!
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Obama 56.1%      58 Delegates
Clinton 41.9%      46 Delegates


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8pmET

Chris Matthews: It's Now 8pmET and there are a load of states polls closing.

Chris Matthews: We can now call Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Tennessee for Clinton and Illinois for Obama. States that are Currently too close to call are Alabama, Connecticut, Delaware and Missouri.

Obama wins Illinois!
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Obama 59.6%      120 Delegates
Clinton 37.8%      65 Delegates

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Clinton wins Massachusetts!
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Clinton 64.3%      79 Delegates     
Obama 32.8%      42 Delegates

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Clinton wins New Jersey!
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Clinton 57.1%      70 Delegates
Obama 40.1%      56 Delegates

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Clinton wins Oklahoma!
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Clinton 60.1%      31 Delegates
Obama 31.8%      16 Delegates
Edwards 4.3%      0 Delegates

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Clinton wins Tennessee!
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Clinton 60.2%      55 Delegates
Obama  36.6%      30 Delegates

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Alabama too close to call
34%in
Obama 50.5%
Clinton 48.0%


Connecticut too close to call
24%in
Clinton 51.7%
Obama 47.4%


Delaware too close to call
20%in
Clinton  51.5%
Obama  46.4%


Missouri too close to call
41%in
Clinton 49.9%
Obama 48.3%


More results next



Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 24, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
It looks like, due to Obama's less than stellar SC win, Clinton gained roughly 5 points over Obama across the board, which would lead to her winning the nomination, not just the primary, as she did in 2008.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 25, 2012, 07:35:26 PM
Continuing Coverage of Super Tuesday!

8:26pmET
Chris Matthews: We can now project a winner in Delaware where Senator Hillary Clinton has won that state in a surprisingly wide margin.

Clinton wins Delaware!
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Clinton 56.6%      13 Delegates
Obama 38.7%      10 Delegates

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8:30pmET
Chris Matthews: We can now can project the home state of Former President Bill Clinton Arkansas to Hillary Clinton in a complete wipe out!

Clinton wins Arkansas!
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Clinton 73.1%      35 Delegates
Obama 23.7%      12 Delegates

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8:46pmET

Chris Matthews: We can now project yet another state for Senator Clinton as she keeps picking up these battleground states, the state of Connecticut goes for her tonight.

Clinton wins Connecticut!
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Clinton 54.0%      13 Delegates
Obama 43.2%      10 Delegates

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9pmET

Chirs Matthews: It's now 9pmET on the east coast and we have some states to call including the State of New york and Arizona for Clinton and Kansas for Obama with his second victory of the night. States that are too close to call are Colorado, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota and still from earlier Alabama and Missouri.

Clinton wins Arizona!
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Clinton 54.4%      37 Delegates
Obama 41.7%      30 Delegates
Edwards 3.0%      0 Delegates

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Obama wins Kansas!
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Obama 56.1%      22 Delegates
Clinton 43.8%      18 Delegates

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Clinton wins New York!
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Clinton 63.6%      182 Delegates
Obama 34.7%      98 Delegates

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Alabama too close to Call
71%in
Obama 51.0%
Clinton 48.1%


Colorado too close to call
23%in
Obama 51.5%
Clinton 47.9%


Minnesota too close to call
9%in
Clinton 50.4%
Obama 49.1%


Missouri too close to call
62%in
Clinton 50.9%
Obama 47.7%


New Mexico too close to call
21%in
Clinton 50.1%
Obama 47.2%


North Dakota too close to call
5%in
Obama 52.2%
Clinton 47.5%


More results next


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: old timey villain on May 25, 2012, 08:07:18 PM
Keep this going! My internship doesn't start until June 5 and I'm so bored


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on May 25, 2012, 08:32:05 PM
Keep this going! My internship doesn't start until June 5 and I'm so bored

Where's your internship?


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: old timey villain on May 25, 2012, 08:53:33 PM
Keep this going! My internship doesn't start until June 5 and I'm so bored

Where's your internship?

A news station. Let's just hope they put me on the political beat.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 26, 2012, 03:50:19 PM
Super Tuesday!!!

9:21pmET
Chris Matthews: We can now Project the state of Alabama to Senator Obama.

Obama wins Alabama!
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Obama 51.8%      33 Delegates
Clinton 46.1%      27 Delegates

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9:35pmET

Chris Matthews: Another state for Senator Obama the state of North Dakota will go his way tonight.

Obama wins North Dakota!
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Obama 54.6%      12 Delegates
Clinton 43.0%      9 Delegates


9:41pmET

Chris Matthews: Big news folks Hillary Clinton has won the big battle ground of Missouri, this is surly a great boost for her campaign.

Clinton wins Missouri!
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Clinton 52.5%      48 Delegates
Obama 45.8%      40 Delegates

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9:54pmET

Chris Matthews: Senator Clinton has won New Mexico. The Hispanic vote helped her in that state a lot according to exit polls.

Clinton wins New Mexico!
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Clinton 52.8%      21 Delegates
Obama 44.7%      17 Delegates


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10pmET

Chris Matthews: It's now 10 o'clock on the east coast and we now project Obama the winner in Idaho. Some too close to call races can also be called with Colorado going for Obama and Minnesota going for Clinton tonight. Utah's polls just closed but it is too close to call at this moment.

Obama wins Idaho Caucus!
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Obama 58.8%      15 Delegates
Clinton 37.9%      8 Delegates

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Obama wins Colorado!

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Obama 53.2%      23 Delegates
Clinton 45.6%      20 Delegates


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Clinton wins Minnesota!
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Clinton 55.2%
Obama 43.7%


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Utah too close to call
21%in
Clinton 49.4%
Obama 49.3%


West coast up next!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Liberalrocks on May 27, 2012, 02:11:27 PM
Awesome, Please keep this going.

If only she had won the presidency in 2008....(my candle is lit for her return in 2016 some way, some how)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on May 27, 2012, 04:16:11 PM


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 28, 2012, 07:22:31 PM
Super Tuesday!!!

11pmET

Chris Matthews: It's now 11pm in the east and we have polls closing in California where it is too early to call at this point. The only states we have left are California, Utah and Alaska with it's polls closing at Midnight.


11:26pmET

Chris Matthews: We can now project Senator Hillary Clinton the winner in California

Clinton wins California!
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Clinton 53.7%      243 Delegates
Obama 41.6%      198 Delegates
Edwards 3.1%      0 Delegates


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11:56pmET
 Chris Matthews: We can now project Senator Obama will win the state of Utah.

Obama wins Utah!
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Obama 51.9%      16 Delegates
Clinton 45.3%      13 Delegates


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12pmET

Chris Matthews: It's Midnight now and we can project Senator Obama the last state of the night, the state of Alaska.

Obama wins Alaska!
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Obama 65.7%      12 Delegates
Clinton 34.1%      6 Delegates


Chris Matthews: Thank you for watching MSNBC tonight we hope you enjoyed our broadcast and this exciting primary that has turned to Hillary Clinton's favor tonight.

Current Democratic Primary Map

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Current Delegate Count
Clinton 1374
Obama 1116
Edwards 25 (out)


w/o Michigan and Florida

Clinton: 1166
Obama: 982
Edwards 25 (out)

National Democratic Polls

CNN:
Clinton 54%
Obama 43%

CBS News/NY Times:
Clinton 55%
Obama 39%

NBC/WSJ
Clinton 57%
Obama 37%









Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on May 28, 2012, 08:41:57 PM
Does the media still have a hard-on for Obama as per otl?


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 31, 2012, 02:19:56 PM
Does the media still have a hard-on for Obama as per otl?

Not as much as in RL.

Anyways i should be coming up with an update tonight.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on May 31, 2012, 05:53:19 PM
Does the media still have a hard-on for Obama as per otl?

Not as much as in RL.

Anyways i should be coming up with an update tonight.

Sounds good.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on May 31, 2012, 09:43:24 PM
Clinton wins American Samoa!
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Clinton 66.4%      6 Delegates
Obama 33.1%      3 Delegates




Clinton vs Mccain

49%-45%
289-187
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Obama vs Mccain

48%-44%
303-200
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Feb 9th Results

Obama wins Louisiana!
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Obama 51.0%      37 Delegates
Clinton 45.3%      31 Delegates


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Obama wins Nebraska Caucus!
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Obama 50.6%      17 Delegates
Clinton 49.1%      14 Delegates


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Clinton wins Washington Caucus!
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Clinton 50.0%     53 Delegates
Obama 48.7%      44 Delegates


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Obama wins Virgin Islands!
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Obama 77.7%      8 Delegates
Clinton 19.6%      1 Delegates


Current Delegate Count

Clinton 1479
Obama 1225
Edwards 25 (out)


w/o Michigan and Florida

Clinton: 1271
Obama: 1091
Edwards 25 (out)


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Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on May 31, 2012, 10:33:05 PM
Cool!  :)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 01, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
Feb 10th Results

Clinton wins Maine!
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Clinton 54.3%      19 Delegates
Obama 44.9%      15 Delegates


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Feb 12th Results

Obama wins District of Columbia!
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Obama 60.1%      24 Delegates
Clinton 38.9%      13 Delegates


Clinton wins Maryland!
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Clinton 52.9%      54 Delegates
Obama 44.9%      45 Delegates


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Obama wins Virginia!
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Obama 52.1%      56 Delegates
Clinton 46.4%      47 Delegates


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Wisconsin Polls:

CNN:
Clinton 48%
Obama 46%

NBC:
Clinton 47%
Obama 46%

CBS News/NY Times:
Clinton 51%
Obama 44%


Current Delegate Count

Clinton 1612
Obama 1365
Edwards 25 (out)


w/o Michigan and Florida

Clinton: 1404
Obama: 1231
Edwards 25 (out)






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Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 02, 2012, 03:11:54 PM
Cool! ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: RedPrometheus on June 03, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
Great timeline! Looking forward to the next update!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Liberalrocks on June 04, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
Great timeline, I am a staunch Clinton supporter but two states I will take issue with are Washington and Maryland even with a more friendly media and less Obama winds, I still think he would have taken those two albeit narrowly so the delegate count would be a wash. The demographics in those states overwhelmingly favored him. I would have given Clinton stronger delegate margins out of the super tuesday states in a rewrite to compensate.

Delaware and Maine could definitely be Clinton states and Minnesota was expected to be tight before the real vote so those are very believable as our some upcoming potential Clinton wins....


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 05, 2012, 08:52:54 PM
Feb 19th Results

Obama wins Hawaii!
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Obama 69.7%      22 Delegates
Clinton 29.6%      7 Delegates


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Clinton wins Wisconsin!
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Clinton 53.6%      51 Delegates
Obama 45.2%      41 Delegates


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March 4th Results

Chris Matthews: Welcome to the big night we've been waiting for. Vermont, Rhode Island Ohio and Texas are voting tonight and if Clinton wins even one of the big ones it's a good night for her. Polls show Clinton with a commanding lead in Ohio but in Texas the gap has been closing dramatically over the past weeks but we'll have to see if that's the case.

Obama wins Vermont!
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Obama 56.7%      13 Delegates
Clinton 42.4%      10 Delegates


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Clinton wins Rhode Island!
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Clinton 62.7%      21 Delegates
Obama 35.9%      11 Delegates


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Clinton wins Ohio!
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Clinton 58.5%      89 Delegates
Obama 40.6%      72 Delegates


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Texas to close to call
21%in
Clinton 51.8%
Obama 47.9%


Texas and more results next!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 05, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Stick a fork in him, Hilldawg!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 09, 2012, 02:36:47 AM
Sorry for no update recently, it's grad week for me and i'll be busy...i'll try to update this TL as soon as i can!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 09, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Sorry for no update recently, it's grad week for me and i'll be busy...i'll try to update this TL as soon as i can!

I understand completely ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 14, 2012, 11:35:10 PM
Clinton wins Texas!
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Clinton 57.4%      126 Delegates
Obama   41.4%      102 Delegates


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"We’re going on, we’re going strong, and we’re going all the way"

March 4th

Clinton wins Wyoming Caucas!
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Clinton 60.1%      11 Delegates
Obama 39.3%      7 Delegates


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March 11th

Clinton wins Mississippi!
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Clinton 50.7%      22 Delegates
Obama 47.8%      18 Delegates


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Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 15, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
Clinton wins Pennsylvania!
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Clinton 61.6%      117 Delegates
Obama 38.1%      64 Delegates


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Clinton wins the Democratic Nomination!!!
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"Thanks to all of you who supported me, but we are only just getting started. Next stop the White House!!"

Final Results
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Hillary Clinton 55.4%
Barack Obama 40.9%
John Edwards 2.1%
Other 1.6%



Clinton vs Mccain Poll Map

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50%-44%
280-191




Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 17, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
Cool!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 18, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
Clinton leads Mccain in Summer polling
   Clinton                    Mccain
    49%                        44%

MSNBC Map

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Analysis:  Hillary Clinton seems to be gaining back the southern democrats that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Clinton is leading in our polling by 9 points (50-41) in Arkansas and is 1 point behind in Kentucky (47-46) and Tennessee (48-47). even being only 8 points behind in Oklahoma (47-39) and 4 in Louisiana (49-45). The black vote is slowly snuggling up towards Clinton but not in record numbers (70-20). Clinton is dominating with the Hispanic vote like she did in the primaries (66-27). Clinton's VP picks could be Barack Obama even though there might be some hard feeling towards themselves or it could be someone like Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, or Tim Kaine. On the Republican side it could be Sam Brownback, Joe Lieberman, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney or Mark Sanford.



Conventions Next!





Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: RedPrometheus on June 20, 2012, 07:52:48 AM
Looking forward to the update!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Mister Mets on June 20, 2012, 08:47:45 AM
I'm curious about the running mates.

I would also imagine that President Hillary Clinton would not have waited until after the midterms if she had a good idea where Osama Bin Lade could be found. Obviously, waiting to be certain was a good idea for President Obama. But I'm suspicious enough of the Clintons to think she would have been more motivated by the political rewards in a situation that we now know would have been quite successful.

Though of course I could be horribly horribly wrong on this.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 20, 2012, 10:46:29 AM
I'm curious about the running mates.

I would also imagine that President Hillary Clinton would not have waited until after the midterms if she had a good idea where Osama Bin Lade could be found. Obviously, waiting to be certain was a good idea for President Obama. But I'm suspicious enough of the Clintons to think she would have been more motivated by the political rewards in a situation that we now know would have been quite successful.

Though of course I could be horribly horribly wrong on this.

Maybe she'd try and distance herself from Bill and be aggressive in seeking out Bin Laden


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 25, 2012, 10:04:53 PM
Clinton picks Senator Evan Bayh!

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Senator Clinton at DNC
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"You never gave in. You never gave up. And together we made history. Thank you so much. God bless America and Godspeed to you all."

Post Convention Map and Poll
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Analysis: Mccain is losing lots of the Moderates and even some conservatives after the Bayh pick. Tennessee and up is pure Clinton country or at least tossup at this point. Clinton now leads Whites by 6 points and Hispanics by 71-23 and African Americans by 84-13

Clinton 53%
Mccain 41%

Colorado
Clinton 51% +5%
Mccain 43% -3%

Kentucky
Clinton 50% +4%
Mccain 45% -2%

Tennessee
Clinton 49% +2%
Mccain 45% -3%

Indiana
Clinton 50% +6%
Mccain 45% -6%

Louisiana
Mccain 48% -1%
Clinton 45% -/+0%
 
Virginia
Clinton 50% +2%
Mccain 46% -2%

North Carolina
Mccain 48% -2%
Clinton 45% +2%



Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 25, 2012, 11:46:15 PM
Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 26, 2012, 01:29:14 AM
Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  ;)

The DNC was in Colorado so I gave it an edge to Clinton and Hispanics voted for Clinton over Obama in the primaries even real life and would help her with Nevada.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 26, 2012, 03:24:06 PM
Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  ;)

The DNC was in Colorado so I gave it an edge to Clinton and Hispanics voted for Clinton over Obama in the primaries even real life and would help her with Nevada.

Understood.  Still, more please ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on June 26, 2012, 03:25:32 PM
Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 26, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Likely the deep south and blacks.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 26, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Illinois, Hawaii and Vermont at the moment


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on June 26, 2012, 05:11:25 PM
Mccain picks Governor Sarah Palin!!

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Sarah Palin at RNC

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John Mccain at RNC

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"Stand up to defend our country from its enemies. Stand up for each other, for beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.
Thank you, and God bless you, and God bless America."

Post convention Map and Poll

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Analysis: John Mccain's pick of Sarah Palin was a big shocker and very big move for the campaign. It moved all the reliable states that were heading towards voting for Clinton to now looking 100% safe for Mccain since picking the strong conservative Palin getting much of the Reagan Democrats back in his column. Whites have went back to mccain by 8 points now in our latest poll with African Americans not moving at all 82-15 for Clinton and Hispanics making a move toward Mccain but still voting for Clinton 64-32.

Mccain 48%
Clinton 47%

Colorado
Clinton 48% -3%
Mccain 48% +5%

Kentucky
Mccain 53% +8%
Clinton 43% -7%

Tennessee
Mccain 55% +10%
Clinton 41% -8%

Indiana
Mccain 48% +3%
Clinton 46% -4%

Louisiana
Mccain 51% +3%
Clinton 39% -6%

Virginia
Mccain 51% +5%
Clinton 44% -6%

North Carolina
Mccain 51% +3%
Clinton 44% -1%

Minnesota
Clinton 48% -5%
Mccain 46% +%


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 26, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
Cool!  ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on June 26, 2012, 08:37:42 PM
Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Illinois, Hawaii and Vermont at the moment

So nothing he can win. :P


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on June 26, 2012, 08:41:04 PM

Hawaii maybe, though it would be tough to win Illinois (though possible) ITTL


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on July 09, 2012, 03:15:33 PM
What's going on with the updates?



Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on July 13, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
WALL STREET CRASHES!!!!!!!!

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George W Bush Approval

Approve 27%

Disapprove 69%

September 26th Polls

NBC
Clinton/Bayh 50%
Mccain/Palin 44%

Fox

Clinton/Bayh 49%
Mccain/Palin 45%

CNN

Clinton/Bayh 51%
Mccain/Palin 45%

Election Map

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Clinton/Bayh 304 EV
Mccain/Palin 180 EV


Colorado
Clinton 50% +2%
Mccain 46% -2%

Kentucky
Mccain 53% +/-0%
Clinton 44% +1%

Tennessee
Mccain 51% -4%
Clinton 43% +2%

Indiana
Clinton 49% +3%
Mccain 47% -1%

Louisiana
Mccain 50% -1%
Clinton 43% +4%

Virginia
Mccain 49% -2%
Clinton 46% +2%

North Carolina
Mccain 49% -2%
Clinton 45% +1%

Minnesota
Clinton 53% +5%
Mccain 42% -4%

Arkansas
Clinton 49% +2%
Mccain 45% -2%

West Virginia
Clinton 49% +1%
Mccain 48% +/-0%


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on July 16, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
First presidential debate (University of Mississippi)

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Analysis: Clinton seemed more comfortable on this topic than McCain, and it showed. Polling shows that voters have more confidence in Clinton than McCain when it comes to the economy. McCain, though, warmed up as the discussion turned to his turf: foreign policy. When it comes to terrorism and Iraq, voters prefer McCain over Clinton. Clinton sought to tie McCain to the Bush administration. CNN polling reported Clinton won the debate overall by a margin of 54-35.

NBC
Clinton/Bayh 51%
Mccain/Palin 44%

Fox

Clinton/Bayh 48%
Mccain/Palin 46%

CNN

Clinton/Bayh 50%
Mccain/Palin 46%

Election Map

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Clinton/Bayh 305 EV
Mccain/Palin 167 EV


Colorado
Clinton 49% -1%
Mccain 46% +/-0%

Kentucky
Mccain 52% -1%
Clinton 42% -2%

Tennessee
Mccain 51% +/-0%
Clinton 44% +1%

Indiana
Clinton 48% -1%
Mccain 47% +/-0%

Louisiana
Mccain 50% +/-0%
Clinton 44% +1%

Virginia
Mccain 48% -1%
Clinton 47% +1%

North Carolina
Mccain 49% +/-0%
Clinton 46% +1%

Minnesota
Clinton 54% +1%
Mccain 41% -1%

Arkansas
Clinton 49% +/-0%
Mccain 47% +2%

West Virginia
Clinton 49% +1%
Mccain 47% -1%

Ohio
Clinton 48% -1%
Mccain 46% +1%

New Hampshire
Clinton 53% +1%
Mccain 42% -2%

Florida
Clinton 49% +2%
Mccain 45% -2%

Nevada
Clinton 50% +1%
Mccain 44% -1%

Iowa
Clinton 49% +/-0%
Mccain 45% +/-0%

Wisconsin
Clinton 50% -1%
Mccain 43% -1%

Michigan
Clinton 53% +3%
Mccain 42% -2%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 49% +1%
Mccain 42% -1%

New Mexico
Clinton 51% +1%
Mccain 42% -2%


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on July 16, 2012, 11:40:02 PM
Interesting


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on July 18, 2012, 12:59:01 AM
Vice presidential debate (Washington University in St. Louis)

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Analysis: Analysis: Palin spoke in greatest depth about energy policy while Bayh spoke in greatest depth about foreign affairs. Bayh refrained from criticizing Palin, concentrating his criticisms on McCain. While Palin offered brief criticism of Bayh, she concentrated most of her criticism on Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. Polls suggested that 50% thought Senator Bayh won the debate, 21% thought Governor Palin had won, and 33% thought it was a tie.

October 7: Second presidential debate (Belmont University – Nashville townhall)

Analysis: Clinton bashed Mccain for his connections with the bush administration and Mccain had a stubbly response. CNN's poll conducted after the debate found that 54% of those surveyed thought that Clinton had won and 30% felt McCain had won.

October 15: Third presidential debate (Hofstra University – Hempstead, New York)

Analysis: During the debate repeated references were made to Joe Wurzelbacher, aka "Joe the Plumber". Wurzelbacher had spoken with Clinton while he was campaigning in Holland, Ohio. Clinton responded saying "under my plan proposed taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate". People responded heavly for Senator Clinton by 60-29 Percent. Mccains attacks on Clinton didn't help him with Independent or Women Voters.

NBC
Clinton/Bayh 52%
Mccain/Palin 44%

Fox

Clinton/Bayh 50%
Mccain/Palin 45%

CNN

Clinton/Bayh 50%
Mccain/Palin 44%

Election Map

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Clinton/Bayh 347 EV
Mccain/Palin 167 EV


Colorado
Clinton 51% +2%
Mccain 45% -1%

Kentucky
Mccain 52% +/-0%
Clinton 42% -1%

Tennessee
Mccain 51% +/-0%
Clinton 43% -1%

Indiana
Clinton 49% +1%
Mccain 47% +/-0%

Louisiana
Mccain 50% +/-0%
Clinton 45% +1%

Virginia
Mccain 48% +/-0%
Clinton 48% +1%

North Carolina
Mccain 48% -1%
Clinton 47% +1%

Minnesota
Clinton 54% -1%
Mccain 41% +1%

Arkansas
Clinton 50% +1%
Mccain 46% -1%

West Virginia
Clinton 50% +1%
Mccain 46% -2%

Ohio
Clinton 50% +2%
Mccain 46% +/-0%

New Hampshire
Clinton 54% +1%
Mccain 42% +/-0%

Florida
Clinton 49% +/-0%
Mccain 45% +1%

Nevada
Clinton 51% +1%
Mccain 44% +/-0%

Iowa
Clinton 51% +/2%
Mccain 45% -1%

Wisconsin
Clinton 51% +1%
Mccain 42% -1%

Michigan
Clinton 54% +1%
Mccain 41% -1%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 52% +3%
Mccain 43% +1%

New Mexico
Clinton 52% +1%
Mccain 43% +1%


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on July 18, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
more please ;)


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on July 22, 2012, 01:35:39 AM
The Final Push!

Clinton Campaigning in Ohio, Florida, Missouri, Virginia, Indiana and spending the final campaign stop at Little Rock Arkansas.
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Mccain Campaign in Ohio, Florida, Pennsulvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, Indiana and Missouri.
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NBC
Clinton/Bayh 52%
Mccain/Palin 45%

Fox

Clinton/Bayh 51%
Mccain/Palin 45%

CNN

Clinton/Bayh 51%
Mccain/Palin 43%

Election Map

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Clinton/Bayh 295 EV
Mccain/Palin 152 EV
Undecided 91EV


Colorado
Clinton 51% +/-0%
Mccain 45% +1%

Kentucky
Mccain 51% -1%
Clinton 42% +1%

Tennessee
Mccain 51% +/-0%
Clinton 43% +1%

Indiana
Clinton 50% +1%
Mccain 48% +1%

Louisiana
Mccain 51% +1%
Clinton 45% +/-0%

Virginia
Mccain 48% +1%%
Clinton 48% +/-0%

North Carolina
Mccain 48% -1%
Clinton 47% +1%

Minnesota
Clinton 53% -1%
Mccain 42% +1%

Arkansas
Clinton 51% +1%
Mccain 45% -1%

West Virginia
Clinton 49% -1%
Mccain 47% +1%

Ohio
Clinton 50% +2%
Mccain 46% +/-0%

New Hampshire
Clinton 53% -1%
Mccain 43% +1%

Florida
Clinton 49% +/-0%
Mccain 45% +2%

Nevada
Clinton 52% +1%
Mccain 44% +1%

Iowa
Clinton 52% +1%
Mccain 46% +1%

Wisconsin
Clinton 52% +1%
Mccain 44% +2%

Michigan
Clinton 54% +/-0%
Mccain 43% +2%

Pennsylvania
Clinton 54% +2%
Mccain 43% +/-0%

New Mexico
Clinton 53% +1%
Mccain 42% -1%

Election Night Next!!!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on August 19, 2012, 06:02:11 PM
Election Night 2008!
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Chris Matthews: Welcome to Election Night 2008 I'm Chris Matthews here with us is Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, Eugene Robinson and David Gregory. Well this has been a crazy and exciting election season but it is finally time for election night where acros this country people will be voting for Hillary clinton or John Mccain for President. Polls have suggested a Hillary Clinton landslide but can John Mccain have picked up momentum at the end to pull off a win? We will have to see. After tonight we will know if we have our first Women President or Vice President. Polls have closed in Indiana Kentucky and Vermont and we can Call Vermont easily to Senator Clinton with 3 electoral votes. No surprise here, in Kentucky it is too close to call at this hour. Polls suggested Clinton narrowing the gap, if Mccain loses this state its a wipeout for Clinton. In Indiana, Senator Bayh's home state, it is too close to call with clinton narrowly ahead.

Clinton wins Vermont!


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Clinton/Bayh 64.2%
Mccain/Palin 34.0%

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Kentucky too close too call
40% in
Mccain/Palin 49.7%
Clinton/Bayh 48.9%


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Indiana too close too call
31% in
Clinton/Bayh 50.3%
Mccain/Palin 48.7%


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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 50.8% 3 Electoral Votes
John Mccain/Sarah Palin 48.1% 0 Electoral Votes










Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Napoleon on August 19, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
Wow, looks like Mccain is going to go down in flames. No mercy!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on August 20, 2012, 04:16:59 AM
Rachel Maddow: It's now 8pm ET and polls are closing in a bunch of states and here are some results!

Clinton wins New Hampshire!
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Clinton/Bayh 54.7%
Mccain/Palin 43.9%


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Clinton wins Maine!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.4%
Mccain/Palin 41.8%


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Clinton wins Massachusetts!
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Clinton/Bayh 63.2%
Mccain/Palin 34.6%


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Clinton wins Connecticut!
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Clinton/Bayh 59.6%
Mccain/Palin 39.2%


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Clinton wins New Jersey!
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Clinton/Bayh 58.1%
Mccain/Palin 40.7%


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Clinton wins Delaware!
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Clinton/Bayh 58.8%
Mccain/Palin 40.0%


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Clinton wins Maryland!
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Clinton/Bayh 58.9%
Mccain/Palin 39.4%


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Clinton wins District of Columbia!
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Clinton/Bayh 91.2%
Mccain/Palin 7.8%


Clinton wins Pennsylvania!
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Clinton/Bayh 55.7%
Mccain/Palin 43.1%




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Clinton wins Michigan!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.0%
Mccain/Palin 42.1%


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Clinton wins Illinois!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.5%
Mccain/Palin 42.2%


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Mccain wins South Carolina!
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Mccain/Palin 54.7%
Clinton/Bayh 44.1%


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Mccain wins Alabama!
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Mccain/Palin 57.9%
Clinton/Bayh 41.1%


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Mccain wins Mississippi!
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Mccain/Palin 58.0%
Clinton/Bayh 41.2%


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Mccain wins Oklahoma!
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Mccain/Palin 63.2%
Clinton/Bayh 36.8%


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Mccain wins Kansas
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Mccain/Palin 57.8%
Clinton/Bayh 40.3%

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Missouri is too close to call
23% in
Mccain/Palin 51.1%
Clinton/Bayh 47.0%


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Tennessee is too close to call
27% in
Clinton/Bayh 49.5%
Mccain/Palin 49.0%


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Georgia is too close too call
40% in
Mccain/Palin 52.1%
Clinton/Bayh 46.5%


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Florida is too close too call
24% in
Clinton/Bayh 49.1%
Mccain/Bayh 49.0%


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North Carolina is too close to call
23% in
Mccain/Palin 52.6%
Clinton/Bayh 46.2%


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Virginia is too close to call
25% in
Mccain/Palin 58.8%
Clinton/Bayh 40.0%

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West Virginia is too close to call
52% in
Mccain/Palin 50.0%
Clinton/Bayh 48.7%


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Ohio is too close to call
34%in
Clinton/Bayh 58.7%
Mccain/Palin 41.1%


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Indiana is still too close to call
59% in
Clinton/Bayh 51.8%
Mccain/Palin 47.8%


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8:21pm ET

Mccain wins Kentucky!
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Mccain/Palin 53.7%
Clinton/Bayh 44.9%


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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 51.7% 120 Electoral Votes
John Mccain/Sarah Palin 47.3% 44 Electoral Votes









Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: RedPrometheus on August 22, 2012, 05:14:00 AM
Go Clinton! Great timeline, looking forward to the next update!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: GLPman on August 22, 2012, 10:13:53 AM
Looks like Clinton is gonna crush McCain...


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on August 24, 2012, 10:17:23 PM
8:30pm ET

Arkansas is still too close to call
31% in
Mccain/Palin 50.7%
Clinton/Bayh 47.9%


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9pm ET

Keith Olberman: It's now 9pmET and we have some results to call which should show how this night will end up.

Clinton wins New York!
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Clinton/Bayh 64.3%
Mccain/Palin 34.7%


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Clinton wins Rhode Island!
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Clinton/Bayh 64.5%
Mccain/Palin 33.6%


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Clinton wins Wisconsin!
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Clinton/Bayh 53.5%
Mccain/Palin 45.1%


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Clinton wins Minnesota!
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Clinton/Bayh 54.0%
Mccain/Palin 44.0%


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Mccain wins Texas!
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Mccain/Palin 54.7%
Clinton/Bayh 44.3%


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Mccain wins South Dakota!
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Mccain/Palin 52.9%
Clinton/Bayh 45.1%


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Mccain wins North Dakota!
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Mccain/Palin 55.2%
Clinton/Bayh 42.6%


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Mccain wins Wyoming!
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Mccain/Palin 64.3%
Clinton/Bayh 32.9%


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9:10pmET

Chris Matthews: Well we have a load of projections to make with some 2004 republican states going to the democrats.

Clinton wins Arkansas!
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Clinton/Bayh 52.6%
Mccain/Palin 45.1%


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Clinton wins Indiana!
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Clinton/Bayh 51.5%
Mccain/Palin 47.4%


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Clinton wins New Mexico!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.3%
Mccain/Palin 42.5%


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Clinton wins West Virginia!
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Clinton/Bayh 51.8%
Mccain/Palin 46.3%


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Mccain wins Georgia!
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Mccain/Palin 53.4%
Clinton/Bayh 45.7%


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Mccain wins Louisiana!
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Mccain/Palin 52.9%
Clinton/Bayh 45.4%


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Mccain wins Tennessee!
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Mccain/Palin 52.8%
Clinton/Bayh 46.0%


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Colorado too close to call
29% in
Mccain/Palin 51.0%
Clinton/Bayh 47.7%


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Florida too close to call!
58% in
Clinton/Bayh 50.3%
Mccain/Palin 48.4%


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Missouri too close to call
60% in
Clinton/Bayh 49.3%
Mccain/Palin 49.2%


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North Carolina too close to call!
59% in
Mccain/Palin 52.0%
Clinton/Bayh 46.7%


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Ohio too close to call

Clinton/Bayh 53.4%
Mccain/Palin 45.2%


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Virginia too close to call
64% in
Mccain/Palin 52.9%
Clinton/Bayh 46.4%


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Arizona too early to call

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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 52.0% 202 Electoral Votes
John Mccain/Sarah Palin 46.9% 127 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: NHI on August 24, 2012, 10:46:38 PM
Keep it up.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Jerseyrules on August 24, 2012, 11:52:54 PM


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: morgieb on August 25, 2012, 06:31:22 AM
Was West Virginia called?


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on August 25, 2012, 03:31:24 PM

Yes sorry i edited it.


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on September 18, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
Sorry about the long delay again people...

9:14pm ET

Keith Olberman: We can now project Hillary Clinton the winner in Ohio.

Clinton wins Ohio!
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Clinton/Bayh 52.3%
Mccain/Palin 46.0%


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9:31pm ET
Clinton wins Florida!
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Clinton/Bayh 51.7%
Mccain/Palin 47.4%


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10pm ET

Clinton wins Iowa!
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Clinton/Bayh 52.5%
Mccain/Palin 45.8%


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Mccain wins Montana!
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Mccain/Palin 52.0%
Clinton/Bayh 44.6%


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Mccain wins Utah!
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Mccain/Palin 62.4%
Clinton/Bayh 34.2%

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10:26pm ET
Chris Matthews: We now have two major projections to make. First is the state of Colorado goes to Senator Hillary Clinton with 9 Electoral Votes. Also Missouri now the bellweather state goes to Hillary Clinton which brings her over the top of 270 and the Next President of the United States is Hillary Rodham Clinton!!

Clinton wins Colorado!
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Clinton/Bayh 52.2%
Mccain/Palin 46.1%

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Clinton wins Missouri!
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Clinton/Bayh 51.0%
Mccain/Palin 47.4%


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President-elect Clinton
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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 52.5% 276 Electoral Votes
John Mccain/Sarah Palin 46.3% 135 Electoral Votes










Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 18, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
Clintonslide!


Title: Re: If Only Mrs. Clinton...
Post by: LiberalJunkie on September 26, 2012, 07:43:19 PM
Final Results

Mccain wins Idaho!
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Mccain/Palin 62.3%
Clinton/Bayh 34.8%

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Clinton wins California!
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Clinton/Bayh 62.3%
Mccain/Palin 35.5%

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Clinton wins Oregon!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.0%
Mccain/Palin 41.2%

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Clinton wins Washington!
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Clinton/Bayh 56.5%
Mccain/Palin 41.0%

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Clinton wins Hawaii!
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Clinton/Bayh 58.9%
Mccain/Palin 39.6%

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Clinton wins Nevada!
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Clinton/Bayh 55.8%
Mccain/Palin 42.2%

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Mccain wins Arizona!
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Mccain/Palin 52.6%
Clinton/Bayh 45.8%

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Mccain wins Alaska!
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Mccain/Palin 58.4%
Clinton/Bayh 39.0%

Mccain wins North Carolina!
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Mccain/Palin 50.6%
Clinton/Bayh 48.0%

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Clinton wins Virginia!
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Clinton/Bayh 49.9%
Mccain/Palin 48.9%

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Exit Polls
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County Map()

Final Map



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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 53.2% 371 Electoral Votes
John Mccain/Sarah Palin 45.3% 167 Electoral Votes


Swing Map

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Trend Map

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