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Title: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it. on June 07, 2012, 04:34:25 PM
I seen the polls more are showing Romney ahead and he even outraised Obama in may. im starting to think maybe its time i gave up on Obama. maybe Romney wont be that bad....

should people give up on obama?


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on June 07, 2012, 04:48:35 PM
I seen the polls more are showing Romney ahead and he even outraised Obama in may. im starting to think maybe its time i gave up on Obama. maybe Romney wont be that bad....

should people give up on obama?

No.

As much as I think Romney will win, the margin will be razor thin.  Given the right circumstances Obama can still win this thing.  People should not give up on either candidate.  Plus, we are still 4 month 29 days from the election.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 07, 2012, 05:27:50 PM
Obama should reach 268 electoral votes with his strength in CO and NV. He needs just 4 electoral votes to cross the 270 mark and for that he should not be given up on.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Paul Kemp on June 07, 2012, 05:33:30 PM
lolwut


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Eraserhead on June 07, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
Give up on the idea of him being a good President? Sure.

Give up on the idea of him winning the election? Haha, no.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on June 07, 2012, 05:38:24 PM
Oh, Winfield. Making a second account with a red avatar is little inconvenient, isn't it?


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Snowstalker Mk. II on June 07, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
lolno


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on June 07, 2012, 05:41:10 PM


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Donerail on June 07, 2012, 05:47:01 PM
Should they give up on him because he's been awful and will continue to be awful? Yes.

Should they give up on him because he won't win? No.

Will they give up on him? No.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Purch on June 07, 2012, 06:41:29 PM
No. He's a young president and he'll get better in a second term.

Everyone who comes into a presidency realizes they can't change the world.



Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Bacon King on June 07, 2012, 07:28:09 PM
concern troll sure is concerned!


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Lincoln Republican on June 07, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
Did Romney's supporters give up on him when Santorum was surging?

No.

This race is a dead heat.

So I really can't see supporters of either side giving up on their candidate.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 07, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
As much as I'd like for them to, they won't.

Obama's still at a point where he's the favorite. There will be a time later this year, though, when many supporters will give up on the idea of him winning the election.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: old timey villain on June 07, 2012, 08:56:22 PM
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Claire Huxtable is judging you


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: NVGonzalez on June 07, 2012, 08:58:43 PM
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Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Wisconsin+17 on June 08, 2012, 12:08:07 AM
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Give up on the idea of him being a good President? Sure.

Give up on the idea of him winning the election? Haha, no.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: milhouse24 on June 08, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
Small business owners fear Obama's taxes from universal health care.
That is why they are not hiring.
They've given up on Obama, but the unemployed have not. 


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Redalgo on June 08, 2012, 03:00:31 PM
People should only give up on Obama if their views are better represented by one of the other candidates and - if said candidate is not Romney - they are willing to back a doomed campaign.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: milhouse24 on June 08, 2012, 09:43:34 PM
In 2010, senior citizens were scared of Death Panels, which is Health Care rationing when hospitals and other surgeries become unavailable to the elderly who lack the funds from medicare or face expensive medical care to stay alive for days, weeks, or months. 

Much of the anger from senior citizens was used to sweep elections for Republicans. 

If the Supreme court approves Universal Health Care, it is a strong possibility that Senior Citizens will once again vote to kick Obama out of office in 2012. 

The swing voter may not be the white catholic blue collar worker, it might be the retired Senior Citizen in Florida. 


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Donerail on June 08, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
In 2010, senior citizens were scared of Death Panels, which is Health Care rationing when hospitals and other surgeries become unavailable to the elderly who lack the funds from medicare or face expensive medical care to stay alive for days, weeks, or months. 

Congratulations! You have (in a serious manner) cited the Lie Of The Year (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/)! You earn a special award for not reading any fact-checking website, ever! Here's your sticker!
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Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: milhouse24 on June 09, 2012, 10:37:34 AM
In 2010, senior citizens were scared of Death Panels, which is Health Care rationing when hospitals and other surgeries become unavailable to the elderly who lack the funds from medicare or face expensive medical care to stay alive for days, weeks, or months. 

Congratulations! You have (in a serious manner) cited the Lie Of The Year (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/)! You earn a special award for not reading any fact-checking website, ever! Here's your sticker!
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You think there will not be crowded hospitals and waiting lists for surgeries? 
Do you know how many doctors accept medicare or medicaid?  Its a terrible system for the patients. 
With Universal Health Care, there will be a huge demand that outweighs the supply of medical care; and many doctors will choose to leave GP for lucrative plastic surgery jobs. 

It will literally be survival of the fittest, people who can survive waiting lists.  The senior citizens will not be able to survive waiting lists and poor medical care.  They are goners. 


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 09, 2012, 02:47:10 PM
...as opposed to now, when everyone gets the care that they need!


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Donerail on June 09, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
In 2010, senior citizens were scared of Death Panels, which is Health Care rationing when hospitals and other surgeries become unavailable to the elderly who lack the funds from medicare or face expensive medical care to stay alive for days, weeks, or months. 

Congratulations! You have (in a serious manner) cited the Lie Of The Year (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/)! You earn a special award for not reading any fact-checking website, ever! Here's your sticker!
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You think there will not be crowded hospitals and waiting lists for surgeries? 
Do you know how many doctors accept medicare or medicaid?  Its a terrible system for the patients. 
With Universal Health Care, there will be a huge demand that outweighs the supply of medical care; and many doctors will choose to leave GP for lucrative plastic surgery jobs. 

It will literally be survival of the fittest, people who can survive waiting lists.  The senior citizens will not be able to survive waiting lists and poor medical care.  They are goners. 

So because of UHC, hospitals will be crowded (which they already are) and... all our doctors will go into plastic surgery? Read the Politifact thing.


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: milhouse24 on June 09, 2012, 09:30:57 PM
In 2010, senior citizens were scared of Death Panels, which is Health Care rationing when hospitals and other surgeries become unavailable to the elderly who lack the funds from medicare or face expensive medical care to stay alive for days, weeks, or months. 

Congratulations! You have (in a serious manner) cited the Lie Of The Year (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/)! You earn a special award for not reading any fact-checking website, ever! Here's your sticker!
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You think there will not be crowded hospitals and waiting lists for surgeries? 
Do you know how many doctors accept medicare or medicaid?  Its a terrible system for the patients. 
With Universal Health Care, there will be a huge demand that outweighs the supply of medical care; and many doctors will choose to leave GP for lucrative plastic surgery jobs. 

It will literally be survival of the fittest, people who can survive waiting lists.  The senior citizens will not be able to survive waiting lists and poor medical care.  They are goners. 

So because of UHC, hospitals will be crowded (which they already are) and... all our doctors will go into plastic surgery? Read the Politifact thing.

So do Senior Citizens want the hospitals to be MORE crowded?  Most of them our living day to day.  There is simply not enough supply of Health Care for those in need.  It will literally kill off the weak and the elderly as a byproduct.  It will literally be survival of the fittest and healthiest.  Perhaps that Obama really does want to kill granny. 


Title: Re: Should People give up on Obama?
Post by: Nutmeg on June 10, 2012, 12:06:24 AM
Perhaps that Obama really does want to kill granny. 

Concerned troll is concerned.