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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Past Election What-ifs (US) => Topic started by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 15, 2012, 09:02:04 AM



Title: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 15, 2012, 09:02:04 AM
Kennedy is still so pissed at Carter that he defects to Anderson. With the liberal wings of both parties coming out in full force for the independent ticket and Anderson's newfound polling improvements giving him a chance at taking swing voters and independents, how does the election go?


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: Jerseyrules on July 16, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
Well, ignoring the fact that no Kennedy would take vp,

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All liberals that turn up vote for Anderson, carter becomes the first incumbent president since Taft (and second ever) to get third place in his re-election bid, in both popular and electoral votes.  Very few independents vote for Anderson, fewer for carter, or perhaps more, depending on how both run their campaigns.


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: mondale84 on July 16, 2012, 11:29:25 PM
Well, ignoring the fact that no Kennedy would take vp,

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All liberals that turn up vote for Anderson, carter becomes the first incumbent president since Taft (and second ever) to get third place in his re-election bid, in both popular and electoral votes.  Very few independents vote for Anderson, fewer for carter, or perhaps more, depending on how both run their campaigns.

No way Carter loses Georgia.


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: Jerseyrules on July 16, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
Well, ignoring the fact that no Kennedy would take vp,

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All liberals that turn up vote for Anderson, carter becomes the first incumbent president since Taft (and second ever) to get third place in his re-election bid, in both popular and electoral votes.  Very few independents vote for Anderson, fewer for carter, or perhaps more, depending on how both run their campaigns.

No way Carter loses Georgia.

IOTL, GA was 55-40 for Carter.  This is giving Carter -25, Anderson +20, Reagan +5 (ish)


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on July 26, 2012, 08:08:06 PM
Reagan, although Anderson would've been awfully tempting for me (not so much with Ted Kennedy though). 


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on July 26, 2012, 08:53:46 PM
I agree with Mr. Mondale on this one. WV first off was a very Democratic state, and frankly Anderson has little to take away from Carter there. As well, Carter did well in his home state and well relatively in his home region. Minnesota I can see getting lost because (as I recall) it went to Carter by >40% margins, though I'll have to check. As well, I can see Reagan losing Vermont in this scenario, not just lower New England. And surprisingly enough, Anderson got some of his best percentages in states like Colorado, so they may be a bit closer.


Title: Re: 1980: Reagan/Bush (R) vs. Carter/Mondale (D) vs. Anderson/Kennedy (I)
Post by: ask_not on August 01, 2012, 06:29:56 PM
even bigger landslide for Reagan