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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: phk on January 23, 2005, 08:10:28 PM



Title: Vote by religion
Post by: phk on January 23, 2005, 08:10:28 PM
Does anybody have voting by religion here.

Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jew etc.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Alcon on January 23, 2005, 08:45:48 PM
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Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: nclib on January 23, 2005, 08:48:19 PM
Nice maps, Alcon.

It appears that Mass. is the only state to have all religious groups go Democratic.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Akno21 on January 23, 2005, 08:49:09 PM
Truly shocking results there...

Though I didn't realize Jews were heavily Democratic in Michigan and Nevada.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 23, 2005, 08:50:37 PM
Nice maps, Alcon.

It appears that Mass. is the only state to have all religious groups go Democratic.

You can simplify it to - only Massachusetts and DC had both Protestants and Catholics vote Kerry.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Colin on January 23, 2005, 09:17:13 PM

What's with the grey states? Are their no Catholics in Alabama and Utah? Did they run them out of those states?


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Alcon on January 23, 2005, 09:19:55 PM

What's with the grey states? Are their no Catholics in Alabama and Utah? Did they run them out of those states?

That means that there was not a significant enough amount to present an accurate sample.

In North Dakota, though, there were actually no Jewish respondents whatsoever.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: AuH2O on January 23, 2005, 09:25:02 PM
Truly shocking results there...

Though I didn't realize Jews were heavily Democratic in Michigan and Nevada.

Re: Michigan: Sen. Levin ring a bell? Former Sen. Abraham?


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Colin on January 23, 2005, 09:38:07 PM

What's with the grey states? Are their no Catholics in Alabama and Utah? Did they run them out of those states?

That means that there was not a significant enough amount to present an accurate sample.

In North Dakota, though, there were actually no Jewish respondents whatsoever.


Another reason why I am never moving to Utah.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Alcon on January 23, 2005, 10:13:39 PM

What's with the grey states? Are their no Catholics in Alabama and Utah? Did they run them out of those states?

That means that there was not a significant enough amount to present an accurate sample.

In North Dakota, though, there were actually no Jewish respondents whatsoever.


Another reason why I am never moving to Utah.

This is not because there are no Catholics; it is just because there are so many Protestants that it does not matter.

You'll notice states like Washington have samples for thinks that only consisted 5% of the respondents while some states lack respondents for 8% groups. This is because battlegrounds and semi-battlegrounds like Washington were polled more closely than other states.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: nclib on January 23, 2005, 11:10:01 PM

In the red states, Kerry did better among Catholics. In the blue states, he did better among Protestants...

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Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Akno21 on January 23, 2005, 11:55:30 PM
Truly shocking results there...

Though I didn't realize Jews were heavily Democratic in Michigan and Nevada.

Re: Michigan: Sen. Levin ring a bell? Former Sen. Abraham?

Doesn't mean there's a large Jewish population.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Alcon on January 23, 2005, 11:57:40 PM
Truly shocking results there...

Though I didn't realize Jews were heavily Democratic in Michigan and Nevada.

Re: Michigan: Sen. Levin ring a bell? Former Sen. Abraham?

Doesn't mean there's a large Jewish population.

2% of respondents were Jewish - however, that was enough because Michigan is a battleground, and thus was heavily exit-polled.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: AuH2O on January 24, 2005, 12:43:23 AM
Well, they all vote, and are usually found in major urban areas. Detroit area has a pretty large Jewish population.

Of course, some states have small Jewish populations and 2 Jewish Senators, so you're right to say it doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Hitchabrut on January 24, 2005, 10:00:16 AM
Abraham is a E. Orthodox Arab.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on January 24, 2005, 12:35:06 PM

what the hell? I heard that Catholics were mostly Republican here and the Protestant vote was actually Democratic.

Of course Protestant is way too broad of a category, it should be seperated into mainline and evangelical, and I'm sure Kerry won mainline Protestants in Minnesota.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 24, 2005, 04:38:01 PM
what the hell? I heard that Catholics were mostly Republican here and the Protestant vote was actually Democratic.

Of course Protestant is way too broad of a category, it should be seperated into mainline and evangelical, and I'm sure Kerry won mainline Protestants in Minnesota.

Are you familer with the phrase: "Margin of Error"?


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: phk on January 24, 2005, 04:42:27 PM
Should be a big margin of error.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Cashcow on January 24, 2005, 04:50:23 PM
Truly shocking results there...

Though I didn't realize Jews were heavily Democratic in Michigan and Nevada.

Re: Michigan: Sen. Levin ring a bell? Former Sen. Abraham?

The senator isn't really a good indicator of that - Feingold in WI is Jewish too (among others nationwide). However, there are some moderately Jewish areas in Southeast Michigan, such as West Bloomfield, where I was born. Most have moved out of Detroit by now - it's 85% black or Hispanic.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: AuH2O on January 24, 2005, 05:08:00 PM

I knew that. How dumb of me... I was thinking of someone though. I forget my mid 90s Senators.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on December 30, 2006, 07:40:18 PM
Interesting thread worth a bump.

In North Dakota, though, there were actually no Jewish respondents whatsoever.

Not suprising but I actually have known two Jews in ND (a kid in my 7th grade homeroom and one of my Spanish teachers)


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: nclib on December 30, 2006, 08:27:26 PM

I'd be interested in seeing the maps for white Protestants and white Catholics, to see how much the original maps were influenced by race.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Alcon on December 30, 2006, 09:45:30 PM
Unfortunately, they only reported "White Conservative Protestant", a waste of a question, in my view.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: nclib on December 30, 2006, 09:51:24 PM
Interesting, since the 2006 Senate and Governors races polled white Protestants and white Catholics.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: Smash255 on December 31, 2006, 02:49:57 AM
I'm suprised Bush won Catholics in NY.  Though part of that might be due to the 9/11 swing that may have impacted Catholics more than other groups.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 31, 2006, 03:52:30 PM
I'm not surprised how MS's Catholic vote was more Republican than its Protestant vote...I've always said that my Catholic church is more Republican than First Baptist in my town.  We once learned the 10 Commandments in Sunday School by talking about all the times that Bill Clinton violated them.  I thought about saying how inappropriate that was, but instead I just stopped paying attention, as I usually did.  Yep, Sunday School actually destroyed my Catholic faith rather than strengthening it.


Title: Re: Vote by religion
Post by: nclib on December 31, 2006, 04:32:54 PM
I'm not surprised how MS's Catholic vote was more Republican than its Protestant vote...I've always said that my Catholic church is more Republican than First Baptist in my town.  We once learned the 10 Commandments in Sunday School by talking about all the times that Bill Clinton violated them.  I thought about saying how inappropriate that was, but instead I just stopped paying attention, as I usually did.  Yep, Sunday School actually destroyed my Catholic faith rather than strengthening it.

Interesting...though I think another issue is that blacks in MS are mainly Protestant, thus making the Protestant vote more Democratic than the white Protestant vote. My guess would be that MS's white Protestants are quite Republican, though unfortunately CNN didn't poll that data in 2004.