Talk Elections

Romney is surging and I don't see how Obama is going to perform any better at the next two debates.

Why not? He may not be the best debater but he is certainly better than he showed last Wednesday.

I am confident he will be back for the second debate. He knows he screwed up.

Lmao.

I know Democrats are discouraged, but let's not lose our heads... ;)

Since when is +2 "surging?"

I will say this: if Obama loses the second debate, he's in a bad place.  If he loses all three debates, he's as good as finished.

Romney still has a electoral-disadvantage. Swing states are called swing states for a reason romney could be up today. And next week we could be writing something different.

Hahaha are you crazy? I've always thought you're Rhodie/KenyanObama/Dixie pretending you are a democrat. I'm almost sure now :p

Yes

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Are you referring to me??Sorry if i confused you. I am a independent obama supporter. How am i crazy?? I was saying that polls change everyday in swing states since the republicans thank romney has this in the bag. They just better hope obama don't retake the lead because if he does it's over. I hope joe biden wins the next debate

Ugh. Go away, BritishDixie.

Romney is surging? I wasn't aware.

LOL at this thread and the thread creator. 

No, he was referring to the OP. Unless your post is quoted, you shouldn't assume the poster after you is necessarily referring to you.

Troll question. Not applicable 30 days before the election. 200 days, maybe. 30, no.

This question is dumb, but in fairness when I watched the Democratic Primary process in 2008 Hillary was clearly a better debater.  Because Obama was clearly better at giving speeches than Hillary, this seemed to be overlooked.

To my eye, it looked like Obama fell into the same debate trap that has snared so many incumbent presidents -- distracted by his day job, rusty debate skills and a sheltered life inside the presidential bubble.  George Condon has a good article about why incumbent presidents fall flat in their first reelection debate.  It was written on Oct. 1, before the debate, and was quite prescient in suggesting why Obama was likely to lose.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/why-incumbents-lose-presidential-debates-20120927 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/why-incumbents-lose-presidential-debates-20120927)

Only if Romney drops out as well and endorses Gary Johnson.

Last week was the best debate model for Romney. Foreign policy usually favors the incumbent (especially when that incumbent got Bin Laden), and the third debate is a town hall-style, which is also not in Romney's favor.

Two problems:

1.  Libya.

2.  The Arab Spring/now Late summer.

I also would not discount Romney's abilities in a town hall.  He's been doing a lot of that.

Problem is, Romney has zero foreign policy experience and he showed that when he smiled about what happened in Libya during that press conference.

Obama did not just lose; it is becoming increasingly clear that he was defeated like no president since George H.W. Bush, if not Jimmy Carter. The image they built up about Romney, telling everybody for months that Romney is some kind of risky monster--well, that image was destroyed once and for all (it was merely a figment of Democrats' wild imaginations). As a result, Team Obama has ZERO credibility with Independents now. These Independents were expecting to see Donald Trump versus "Hope and Change." Instead, they saw Reagan Vs. Carter set in 2012. They are startled that they were fooled so badly by Obama's Hype Machine.

To summarize: One, Independents will not be fooled again. Most of them are pretty much lost to Romney moving forward. Two, I do not see how Democrats can get as fired up as Republicans are right now, especially when you consider that there are only four weeks to go. I mean, it's not like Obama's pro-gay marriage plank would legalize gay marriage across the nation, and there's really nothing else there to fire up Democrats moving forward (And Biden killed that momentum tactic back in May). Three, I have never seen Republicans so fired up before, 1980/1984/1994/2004/2010 included.

Bottomline: In the next debate, Obama needs to somehow match or surpass what Romney accomplished in the first debate. He needs THE performance of his entire career. If he fails to do this, the question on everybody's mind will start becoming "how badly will Obama lose?" not "can Obama bounce back?"

LOL. Romney has had dozens of these "bad moments" in the campaign. I think Obama's allowed one without being written off.

So where is Romney's big bounce? Why hasn't he taken the lead yet?

I was referring to the OP, as Antonio said: You're a great poster ;)

A couple weeks ago everyone was declaring the race over because of the 47% video, and talking about how Romney would go down as the worst nominee in modern history. Now Obama gives one bad debate performance and people are declaring the race over again. Both are complete overreactions. The fact is, Romney was a big underdog before the debate. Now he's a moderate underdog. The fundamentals of the race still favor Obama.

And Obama's is, in Libya, at best a muddle, followed by a campaign trip to Las Vegas, party central west.

Obama will come back in the next two debates. Plus, Obama has a strong side on foreign policy and I think he'll show up to be quite dominant.

If he loses the debate on foreign policy, he might as well just resign.

According to Rasmussen, he is in the lead now. Gallup has it as a statistical tie that is trending towards Romney.

All signs point towards a shift, not a bounce, that may last the rest of the campaign.

Rasmussen has had this race closed almost in every time (they had Obama +2, when Gallup had Obama +6).

Yes but not for another 4 years.  Post-debate, Obama is leading every swing state polled by a credible pollster.   Romney's running out of time.

I don't think anyone cares about Foreign policy.

The only way that debate will matter is if Romney says something complete incorrect or stupid. 

Obama is pretty much done, unless he is super-high on charisma in the next debate. 

I think the "real polls" always showed a tight race with even Romney leading a few times over the past few months.  The mainstream media PR really propped up Obama after the DNC and helped his poll numbers, but that was an Obama bubble.  Romney has a very good chance at winning, even if its a close win like in 2000. 

In all fairness, one weekend does not show a trend.

Newt Gingrich vs. Hillary Clinton 2016!

Don't scare me like that! ;)

Considering how the media assisted in the hysterical reaction to the debate... it shows what they want is a story... and either candidate imploding is as much a story as a close race...

But, on point, I can't wait until you allege the media being Obama's pocket because they share dealers.