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Title: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 31, 2005, 06:22:25 PM Well?
It's the libertarian Democrats vs. the religious right. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Jake on January 31, 2005, 08:01:29 PM Frist wins, since Dean is seen by a nut by 60% of the population.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on January 31, 2005, 08:02:09 PM Frist is NOT religious right. He's a mainstream consrevative.
Santorum...well.. you've got a point there :P Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: YRABNNRM on January 31, 2005, 08:10:26 PM Howard Dean of today is NOT a libertarian. He may have had some libertarian leanings as governor but that is still going a little far I think.
Nice try though. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 31, 2005, 08:15:29 PM Howard Dean of today is NOT a libertarian. He may have had some libertarian leanings as governor but that is still going a little far I think. Nice try though. Give me a break, of course he was libertarian leaning. He's moderately liberal on social issues (he decided against gay marriage) and he has an A rating from the NRA. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: YRABNNRM on January 31, 2005, 08:17:29 PM Howard Dean of today is NOT a libertarian. He may have had some libertarian leanings as governor but that is still going a little far I think. Nice try though. Give me a break, of course he was libertarian leaning. He's moderately liberal on social issues (he decided against gay marriage) and he has an A rating from the NRA. Give me a break, theres more to being a libertarian than social issues. Was his plan for socialized health care libertarian? Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 31, 2005, 08:28:44 PM Howard Dean of today is NOT a libertarian. He may have had some libertarian leanings as governor but that is still going a little far I think. Nice try though. Give me a break, of course he was libertarian leaning. He's moderately liberal on social issues (he decided against gay marriage) and he has an A rating from the NRA. Give me a break, theres more to being a libertarian than social issues. Was his plan for socialized health care libertarian? As for economic issues. I believe he had the cheapest health care plan of the Democrats, his was definitely not socialized, even Gephardt who had the most expensive one, I think, still didn't have anything close to the single payer method used in Canada. As for fiscal matters, he turned deficits into surpluses in Vermont, and no, balanced budgets are not required there. He also cut taxes and is against borrowing money. Quote "I am a true fiscal conservative though," said Dean. "I cut taxes in Vermont, taking the highest municipal income tax (in New England), and making it the lowest." "The biggest problem with our economy right now is that Republicans don’t know how to manage money," started Dean, later saying the opposing party has the habit of borrowing, spending, borrowing, spending." "In a Dean Administration, the Democratic Party would reclaim the mantle of fiscal responsibility. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: YRABNNRM on January 31, 2005, 08:33:26 PM Yes, Dean was a moderate, libertarian on some issues as Governor BUT I doubt he will be back in 2008 therefore your statement that Dean is a "libertarian Democrat" is bunk.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 31, 2005, 08:35:31 PM Yes, Dean was a moderate, libertarian on some issues as Governor BUT I doubt he will be back in 2008 therefore your statement that Dean is a "libertarian Democrat" is bunk. Think of him as a charismatic Pataki. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Serenity Now on February 01, 2005, 09:42:19 AM Dean is seen by a nut by 60% of the population. Source? (I'm not saying you've got it wrong) Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: ian on February 01, 2005, 02:24:51 PM I love Dean and Feingold, but really. That ticket has nothing going for them. Frist, I have said before and I shall reiterate, could win against any Democrat and with the support of Santorum, they could pull in PA, and maybe NH, NJ, and ME. Dean and Feingold would lose in a huge margin.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Rob on February 01, 2005, 07:11:00 PM None of the above/Dean.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Notre Dame rules! on February 01, 2005, 08:31:24 PM Honestly, Dean is toast. What is his latest quote? Oh yeah, "I hate Republicans." Sounds like an inclusive kind of guy to me.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Moooooo on February 01, 2005, 09:56:33 PM Honestly, Dean is toast. What is his latest quote? Oh yeah, "I hate Republicans." Sounds like an inclusive kind of guy to me. Here is the full quote. "I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for, but I admire their discipline and their organization." It wasnt the smartest thing the man could have said thats for sure. Especially when we are suppose to be reaching out to moderate republicans to join us. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Rob on February 01, 2005, 10:16:34 PM Yet another reason why Dean would be terrible as party chair.
Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: Alcon on February 01, 2005, 10:20:48 PM I do not like Frist as a man, but as a politician is OK.
I would vote Dean, but not happily. Title: Re: Dean / Feingold vs. Frist / Santorum in 2008 Post by: FerrisBueller86 on February 01, 2005, 11:04:26 PM Dean/Feingold wins in a landslide. Frist/Santorum wins most of the southeast quadrant of the nation, but Dean/Feingold wins in the normally heavily Republican Western and Great Plains states, including Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Utah, the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Kansas. The people of these western states were crazy enough to be Perot's strongest states, and Dean/Feingold appeals to the Perot voters.
However, Howard Dean will likely be the DNC Chair, so that would take him out of the running in 2008. |