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Election Archive => 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: krazen1211 on October 22, 2012, 11:37:31 AM



Title: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: krazen1211 on October 22, 2012, 11:37:31 AM
http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/84/159/2147483694/0e2e970e-a544-4f4d-8659-6233705b8ae7.pdf

Romney 48
Obama 45


Great news! Romney is being lifted by his excellent +10 favorables as well as Paul Ryan's excellent +11 favorables.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Yank2133 on October 22, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
Obama with only a 6 point lead among Latinos.......lol


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: afleitch on October 22, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
Obama with only a 6 point lead among Latinos.......lol

See my post on this.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 22, 2012, 11:59:21 AM
Obama with only a 6 point lead among Latinos.......lol

hahahaha... thats awesome. 


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Gustaf on October 22, 2012, 12:30:32 PM
Criticizing subsamples doesn't necessarily make any sense.

I can't recall the poll board ever being this bad. Everyone just pretends as if every poll going against their candidate is useless with arguments of ever-decreasing quality.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Umengus on October 22, 2012, 12:31:04 PM
Party id= D +4


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: LiberalJunkie on October 22, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
HAHAHAHA 6 points?!?!?


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: afleitch on October 22, 2012, 12:39:43 PM
Criticizing subsamples doesn't necessarily make any sense.

I can't recall the poll board ever being this bad. Everyone just pretends as if every poll going against their candidate is useless with arguments of ever-decreasing quality.

I agree with you when it comes to party ID etc, but I think there is some credence in being concerned with demographic sub samples which don't change nationally by too much year on year. I mean this poll is pretty consistent (when compared with other polls) when it comes to White and Black voting intention; but it sticks out like a sore thumb with Hispanics. It would be the same if a poll suddenly showed Romney within 10% of Obama on the black vote despite that not happening in any national election in the modern era.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on October 22, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
Is there a reason RCP includes this crappy pollster, Rasmussen, the Wash Times, and Politico but not PPP?


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 22, 2012, 02:21:30 PM
Because RCP is a joke run by Republican hacks. They're also not including the Democracy Corps survey, showing Obama up by 3, for some reason


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: J. J. on October 22, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
Criticizing subsamples doesn't necessarily make any sense.

I can't recall the poll board ever being this bad. Everyone just pretends as if every poll going against their candidate is useless with arguments of ever-decreasing quality.

Pretty much this.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 22, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
How reliable in Monmouth?  First time I ever heard of it.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: J. J. on October 22, 2012, 02:32:21 PM
How reliable in Monmouth?  First time I ever heard of it.

It's a uni poll, so it is not particularly good. 


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Brittain33 on October 22, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Criticizing subsamples doesn't necessarily make any sense.

I can't recall the poll board ever being this bad. Everyone just pretends as if every poll going against their candidate is useless with arguments of ever-decreasing quality.

What's really galling are the bogus claims of false equivalence.


Title: Re: National, Monmouth: Romney in the lead
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 22, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
Gustaf loves bogus equivalence. It's no coincidence that he's complaining about this in a thread where the red avatars are (rightfully) criticizing a suspect poll.