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Title: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on November 16, 2012, 10:51:45 PM
I just wanted a place were I could post my maps and occasionally my opinion on matters.

My first map is comparing the percentages between President Obama and Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin in their respective races. Obama outperformed Baldwin in the red counties and Baldwin outperformed Obama in the green counties. The shades represent 1% interval's.

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Some quick observations:
- Obama did better then Baldwin in her congressional district. This includes outperforming here by 2.02% in Dane County.
- Obama also did much better then Baldwin in the Driftless area of the Southwest part of the state. This makes sense as this is Tommy Thompson's home region, even though Baldwin won in most of these counties in this region. Big exception was Juneau County, were Thompson is from, were Obama did 5.58% better than Baldwin. He won the county while she lost it.
- Baldwin did much better then Obama up Nort (little bit of Wisconsin lingo, lol) and in the Minneapolis exurbs. Wondering if race had something to do this is difference or if it was more about their opinions on Obama's performance as President.    


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: adma on November 17, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
- Obama did better then Baldwin in her congressional district. This includes outperforming here by 2.02% in Dane County.

And other than Racine/Kenosha, outperforming Baldwin in Paul Ryan's congressional district, too.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on November 17, 2012, 03:13:55 PM
- Obama did better then Baldwin in her congressional district. This includes outperforming here by 2.02% in Dane County.

And other than Racine/Kenosha, outperforming Baldwin in Paul Ryan's congressional district, too.

This is true, but Obama only did less then 1% better in each county that makes up Ryan's district and the same for Baldwin in Racine/Kenosha. My guess is the %'s would be close to the same in the district.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on November 18, 2012, 05:55:57 PM
Here is the 112th Congress Caucus Map:
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Key:
Dem 90% - Progressive Caucus
Dem 70% - Progressive Caucus & New Democrat Coalition
Dem 50% - New Democrat Coalition
Dem 30% - New Democrat Coalition & Blue Dog Coalition
Dem 10% - Blue Dog Coalition
Dem 00% - Progressive Caucus & New Democrat Coalition & Blue Dog Coalition
Grey - No Caucus Membership
Rep 90% - Tea Party Caucus
Rep 70% - Tea Party Caucus & Republican Study Committee
Rep 50% - Republican Study Committee
Rep 30% - Republican Study Committee & Main Street Republican Partnership
Rep 10% - Main Street Republican Partnership
Rep 00% - Tea Party Caucus & Republican Study Committee & Main Street Republican Partnership (Also one case of Tea Party Caucus & Main Street Republican Partnership, symbolized with a dot)    


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on November 19, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
Here is the 112th Congress Caucus Map:
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Key:
Dem 90% - Progressive Caucus
Dem 70% - Progressive Caucus & New Democrat Coalition
Dem 50% - New Democrat Coalition
Dem 30% - New Democrat Coalition & Blue Dog Coalition
Dem 10% - Blue Dog Coalition
Dem 00% - Progressive Caucus & New Democrat Coalition & Blue Dog Coalition
Grey - No Caucus Membership
Rep 90% - Tea Party Caucus
Rep 70% - Tea Party Caucus & Republican Study Committee
Rep 50% - Republican Study Committee
Rep 30% - Republican Study Committee & Main Street Republican Partnership
Rep 10% - Main Street Republican Partnership
Rep 00% - Tea Party Caucus & Republican Study Committee & Main Street Republican Partnership (Also one case of Tea Party Caucus & Main Street Republican Partnership, symbolized with a dot)     
I thought Dave Camp was a member of both the Study Committee and the Main Street Partnership.  And this is the old congressional district before redistricting.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 19, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
I'm having a very difficult time picturing what type of person is a Romney/Baldwin voter.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Miles on November 19, 2012, 02:39:50 PM

I thought Dave Camp was a member of both the Study Committee and the Main Street Partnership.  And this is the old congressional district before redistricting.

This was for the 112th Congress, ergo, he's using the old map.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on November 20, 2012, 01:27:06 AM
I thought Dave Camp was a member of both the Study Committee and the Main Street Partnership.  And this is the old congressional district before redistricting.

I'm going off of the lists on wikipedia and he's not on either. Also what Miles said about the 112th Congress.

I missed them and I don't think it would work on this map. Also they have yet to make a huge impact yet, if they do in the future I'll add them.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on November 20, 2012, 01:52:30 AM
Here is an identical map, but this time its Walker vs Johnson in 2010:
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Some quick observations:
- Looking at this map, it appears that the Senate race made a bigger difference in the differences between Walker and Johnson   
- Feingold did much better then Barrett almost all over the state, but particularly in the Dirftless area and the Northwoods. If he could have ran a bit better in these parts, he could have made it a much closer race
- Johnson's best area was the Fox River Valley which is not surprising considering it's his home region
- No idea why Johnson did 2.05% better then Walker in Polk County while doing relatively worse in the other Minneapolis exurb counties     


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 01, 2013, 12:54:44 AM
I will be adding some maps and data on the Wisconsin State Legislature here soon!


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Nhoj on February 01, 2013, 11:44:14 AM
polk county does have a weird tendency for statistical anomalies. I think there was a primary some years ago where some pro weed guy did well there.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 02, 2013, 10:46:05 AM
I will be adding some maps and data on the Wisconsin State Legislature here soon!

Id love to see maps of the Wisconsin legislature, especially the Assembly.  I know that in 2010, Republicans somehow picked up a bunch of seats in districts that went for Obama with 60%+ of the vote in 2008.  There was even one that Republicans picked up that went 68% for Obama. 

Since the districts were changed around so much in the 2011 redistricting, this state is really hard to follow.  Did these Republicans survive reelection or were these seats made better for Repubicans somehow?


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 04, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
As I am about to start going through the Wisconsin State Legislature I need to make a few overall points:

- Each post will consist of a Senate District and its 3 corresponding Assembly Districts
- There will be some information, maps and pictures on the 4 districts and on the 4 Legislators
- I constructed the PVI of the different districts using the 2008 Presidential election and the average of the 2010 statewide races
- It should be noted that the maps made with DRA are not perfect because the application still uses the old ward lines which changed after redistricting, but they are as close as possible
- When I am done going through the current legislature, I will show how I would draw a fair, okay maybe a slight Democratic map, haha  
- Also I know that this is about statewide elections and we are in the congressional elections section, but I already had this thread going and I didn't want to make a new one  

Senate District 1 is coming up first!



Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 04, 2013, 11:02:49 PM
Senate District 1
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Counties: Brown, Calumet, Door, Kewaunee, Manitowoc and Outagamie
Three Largest Entities: Western DePere, Southeast Appleton and Two Rivers  
PVI: R+4
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 44,717 (47.15%)/ Romney 48,892 (51.55%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 51,595 (53.8%)/ McCain 42,786 (44.62%)
Swing: 13.58% Republican
Trend: 6.61% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3.5/R+4

Senator: Frank Lasee
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Frank Lassee 43,415 (60%)/ Monk Elmer 28,800 (39.8%) (2010 – Old Lines)
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Ledgeview
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly (Assembly District 2)(1995-2009)
Education: University of Wisconsin-Green Bay (1986)
Birthday: 12/11/1961
Place of Birth: Oceanside, California
Profession: Real Estate Broker
Religion: Christian

Notes: The districts for the Wisconsin State Legislature in the Fox Cities (Appleton Area) and the Fox River Valley (Green Bay Metro) are awful. Both areas get split into 4 different Senate Districts and then go off into more rural areas. I will provide cleaner lines for this area when I show and describe my maps after going through the current Legislature.

Yet it is crazy to think that this district actually become a half point more Democratic in redistricting after seeing the Obama numbers in 2012. I can’t see a Democrat winning here in the near future, especially in 2014. Also, one can see overall that Obama has done a better job in drawing voters then local Democrats have been able to in this Senate District and the 3 Assembly Districts.

Assembly District 1
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Counties: Brown, Door, Kewaunee and Manitowoc
PVI: R+3.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,809 (49.38%)/ Romney 16,836 (49.46)  
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 18,513 (56.35%)/ McCain 13,884 (42.26)
Swing: 14.17% Republican
Trend: 7.2% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+1/R+0.5  

Represntative: Garey Bies
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Garey Bies 16,993 (51.3%)/ Patrick Vesser 16,124 (48.6%)
Obama Comparison: +0.73%
Serving Since: 2001
Hometown: Sister Bay
Prior Offices: None
Education: Northeast Technical College
Birthday: 10/26/1946
Place of Birth: Manitowoc, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: Catholic

Notes: This would have been nice seat to gain in 2012. If only Obama could have done a little bit better here. His district probably won’t be competitive again until the next presidential race, as that is the only time Democrats perform well up in the Door County area.

Assembly District 2
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Counties: Brown, Manitowoc and Outagamie
PVI: R+5.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,358 (45.49%)/ Romney 15,621 (53.2%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,503 (52.31%)/ McCain 14,507 (45.99%)
Swing: 14.03% Republican
Trend: 7.06% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6/R+6

Representative: Andre Jacque  
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Andre Jacque 17,082 (58.6%)/ Larry Pruess 12,033 (41.3%)  
Obama Comparison: +4.2%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: DePere
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison (2003)
Birthday: 10/13/1980
Place of Birth: Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The City of Two Rivers in the eastern part of the district is a good Democratic base, but the conservative rural areas really drown it out. A democrat actually represented this district from 2009 to 2011 and he actually defeated the current State Senate Frank Lasee, but that was due in large part to Obama’s 2008 surge and was an extreme outlier for what usually happens here.

Assembly District 3
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Counties: Calumet and Outagamie
PVI: R+5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,550 (46.29%)/ Romney 16,435 (53.2%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,645 (52.31%)/ McCain 13,080 (45.99%)
Swing: 11.55% Republican
Trend: 4.58% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4/R+5

Representative: Alvin Ott
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Alvin Ott 17,387 (58%)/ Kole Oswald 11,398 (38%)
Obama Comparison: +8.28%
Serving Since: 1987
Howntown: Forest Junction
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 6/19/1949
Place of Birth: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district also gets a bit more democratic, but a majority of the district is in Calumet County, which is traditionally very Republican. There is some Democratic strength in the Appleton and Menasha spillover as well as the Village of Kimberly, but there is not enough to make up what is going on in the rural area.  


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 05, 2013, 04:26:29 AM
Senate District 2
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Counties: Brown, Oconto, Outagamie, Shawano and Waupaca  
Three Largest Entities: Green Bay, Ashwaubenon, Allouez
PVI: R+5.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,768 (46.15%)/ Romney 47,662 (52.66%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 46,843 (52.33%)/ McCain 41,350 (46.19%)
Swing: 12.65% Republican
Trend: 5.68% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5/R+5

Senator: Robert Cowles
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1987
Hometown: Green Bay, WI
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly (1983-1986)
Education: University of Wisconsin-Green Bay (1975)
Birthday: 7/31/1975
Place of Birth: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: Episcopalian

Notes: This is another one of those annoying Senate District that chops the Fox River Valley and Fox Cities into 4 different Districts. This district takes the western Green Bay Suburbs and then goes west taking most of Shawano County and most of northern Outagamie County.

This is very much a Republican district as shown by the fact that Senator Cowles won reelection unopposed in 2012. Obama may have won it in 2012, but that was an outlier.

Assembly District 4
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Counties: Brown
PVI: R+4.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,629 (47.88%)/ Romney 16,718 (51.21%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,431 (52.27%)/ McCain 14,575 (46.37%)
Swing: 9.23% Republican
Trend: 2.26% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old):  R+4/R+4

Representative: Chad Weininger
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Chad Weininger 16,029 (55.6%)/ Michael Malcheski 12,770 (44.3%)  
Obama Comparison: +3.6%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Green Bay
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: Cardinal Stritch University MBA (2004)  
Birthday: 2/7/1972
Place of Birth: N/A
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: If this district starts voting more like the City of Green Bay, then maybe it could become competitive. Yet right now it is hard to see a Republican losing this.

Assembly District 5
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Counties: Brown and Outagamie
PVI: R+5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,321 (45.78%)/ Romney 16,559 (52.94%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,233 (53.7%)/ McCain 13,506 (44.68%)
Swing: 16.18% Republican
Trend: 9.21% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3.5/R+3

Representative: Jim Steineke
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Jim Steineke 16,117 (55.9%)/ Jeff McCabe 12,709 (44.1%)
Obama Comparison: +1.73%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Kaukauna  
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: N/A
Birthday: 11/23/1970
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This seat actually changed parties in 2010, but it would take a change in the political atmosphere of the State for this to get competitive again. Making things worse the district was made a half point more Republican.

Assembly District 6
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Counties: Brown, Oconto, Outagamie, Shawano and Waupaca  
PVI: R+7
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,818 (44.46%)/ Romney 14,385 (54.12%)
2008 Presidential Election: 14,157 (50.94%)/ McCain 13,229 (47.6%)
Swing: 13% Republican
Trend: 6.03% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+7/R+8.5

Representative: Gary Tauchen
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Gary Tauchen 15,423 (59.4)/ John Powers 10,508 (40.5)  
Obama Comparison: +3.98%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Bonduel  
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: University of Wisconsin-River Falls (1976)
Birthday: 11/23/1953
Place of Birth: Rice Lake, WI
Profession: Businessman
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district got 1.5 points more Democratic, but considering this is mainly Shawano County, I don’t see this ever flipping in the near future.  


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 05, 2013, 05:37:25 PM
Thoughts on my series so far? Is there anything else you'd like to see me add to the posts? I'd love to here others thoughts!


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Talleyrand on February 05, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
What are the best pickup opportunities for Senate Democrats in the coming years? If they're guaranteed to lose Senator Lehman's seat next year, that would give them a baseline of 14 seats to start off with, I assume.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 06, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
What are the best pickup opportunities for Senate Democrats in the coming years? If they're guaranteed to lose Senator Lehman's seat next year, that would give them a baseline of 14 seats to start off with, I assume.

The Schultz seat would probably be a near gimme if he retired.  Pretty much all of the swingy seats are held by Republicans with the exception of Dave Hanson. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 06, 2013, 09:56:42 PM
What are the best pickup opportunities for Senate Democrats in the coming years? If they're guaranteed to lose Senator Lehman's seat next year, that would give them a baseline of 14 seats to start off with, I assume.

The Schultz seat would probably be a near gimme if he retired.  Pretty much all of the swingy seats are held by Republicans with the exception of Dave Hanson. 

One would think that 17th would flip to the Democrats if Schultz retired, but it should be noted that all 3 representatives in the Assembly from that district are Republicans. This area really likes Republicans on the local area, but will almost always support Democrats on statewide elections. It will be a close race when whenever Shultz retires, but it probably won't be competitive until he retires. The 19th, which is most of the Fox Cities, could be competitive whenever Michael Ellis retires. Other then that I don't see anymore competitive seats. Jim Holperin retiring pretty much makes the 12th un-winnable, redistricting took the 5th, 8th and 21st completely off the table, Jessica King was the best possible candidate in the 18th yet she still lost in a good 2012 environment and man of the districts that were lost in 2010 (23&29) are trending away from the Dems. I could see a permanent Republican Majority of 19-14 for the decade. Taking back the Governors Mansion in 2018 is going to be the only way to change this, baring an awful Republican Presidential administration starting in 2016.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 10, 2013, 06:51:25 PM
Senate District 3
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Counties: Milwaukee  
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee, West Allis, and Greenfield
PVI: D+13
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,753 (69.04%)/ Romney 18,076 (29.89%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 38,066 (65.64%)/ McCain 19,059 (32.87%)
Swing: 6.38% Democratic
Trend: 13.35% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+10/D+7

Senator: Tim Carpenter
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Party: Democrat
Last Election: Tim Carpenter 23,401(61.09%)/ Annette Krznarich 14,796 (38.36%)  
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (Masters)
Birthday: N/A
Place of Birth: St. Francis, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes:  The interesting to note about this Safe Democratic seat is that it contains the highest percentage of Hispanics in any Senate seat in Wisconsin. A majority of the Hispanics in Milwaukee is of Puerto Rican dissent, but the number of Mexicans in the city is growing.  Hispanics make up 40.5% of the district. That number is expected to grow larger in the future and could possibly become the plurality by 2020. I would guess that that next Senator from this district would be Hispanic.

Assembly District 7
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Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+2
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,372 (57.00%)/ Romney 11,957 (41.63%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,033 (56.44%)/ McCain 11,892 (41.86%)
Swing: 0.79% Democratic
Trend: 7.76% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+1/D+3

Representative: Daniel Riemer
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Party: Democratic
Last Election: Uncontested (There was a write-in campaign by former Rep. Peggy Krusick, who lost to Riemer 2 to 1 in the primary, that failed miserably)
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Chicago
Birthday: 12/10/1986
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is an interesting district as Daniel Riemer, 26 years old, was able to defeat Rep. Peggy Krusick at a 2 to 1 margin. I am surprised that the Republicans didn’t run a candidate in this district in the general election, as it is only D+1. This will be one to watch in 2014 as you have a young Freshman, running in a close district and there is probably still some bad blood from knocking out a 20 year incumbent.  

Assembly District 8
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Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+30
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,922 (86.64%)/ Romney 1,748 (12.7%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 9,644 (81.79%)/ McCain 2,019 (17.12%)
Swing: 9.27% Democratic
Trend: 16.24% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+27/D+28.5

Representative: Jocasta Zamarripa  
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Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Birthday: 3/8/1976
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This Assembly District has the highest percentage of Hispanics in Wisconsin at 65.8%. Interesting historical fact is that this used to be a predominantly Polish area in Milwaukee. The make up of this district and the 9th was the result of the lawsuit Baldus et al  vs. Brennan et al. The court ruled that there needed to be one district were Hispanics could have a representative of their choosing rather then having the ability to influence two different districts.  

Assembly District 9
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Counties: Milwaukee  
PVI: D+17.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,459 (74.81%)/ Romney 4,371 (24.30%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,389 (69.63%)/ McCain 5,148 (28.93%)
Swing: 9.81% Democratic
Trend: 16.78% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+15/D+12

Representative: Josh Zepnick
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Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Masters)
Birthday: 3/21/1968
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This districting also has a fairly large Hispanic plurality at 47.8%. It would not be surprising if a Hispanic wins this district whenever Rep. Zepnick chooses to retire.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 10, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
Senate District 3
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Counties: Milwaukee 
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee, West Allis, and Greenfield
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,753 (69.04%)/ Romney 18,076 (29.89%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 38,066 (65.64%)/ McCain 19,059 (32.87%)
Swing: 6.38% Democratic
Trend: 13.35% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+10/D+7

Representative: Tim Carpenter
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Party: Democrat
Last Election: Tim Carpenter 23,401(61.09%)/ Annette Krznarich 14,796 (38.36%) 
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (Masters)
Birthday: N/A
Place of Birth: St. Francis, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes:  The interesting to note about this Safe Democratic seat is that it contains the highest percentage of Hispanics in any Senate seat in Wisconsin. A majority of the Hispanics in Milwaukee is of Puerto Rican dissent, but the number of Mexicans in the city is growing.  Hispanics make up 40.5% of the district. That number is expected to grow larger in the future and could possibly become the plurality by 2020. I would guess that that next Senator from this district would be Hispanic.

Assembly District 7
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Counties: Milwaukee
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,372 (57.00%)/ Romney 11,957 (41.63%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,033 (56.44%)/ McCain 11,892 (41.86%)
Swing: 0.79% Democratic
Trend: 7.76% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+1/D+3

Representative: Daniel Riemer
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Party: Democratic
Last Election: Uncontested (There was a write-in campaign by former Rep. Peggy Krusick, who lost to Riemer 2 to 1 in the primary, that failed miserably)
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Chicago
Birthday: 12/10/1986
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is an interesting district as Daniel Riemer, 26 years old, was able to defeat Rep. Peggy Krusick at a 2 to 1 margin. I am surprised that the Republicans didn’t run a candidate in this district in the general election, as it is only D+1. This will be one to watch in 2014 as you have a young Freshman, running in a close district and there is probably still some bad blood from knocking out a 20 year incumbent. 

Assembly District 8
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Counties: Milwaukee
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,922 (86.64%)/ Romney 1,748 (12.7%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 9,644 (81.79%)/ McCain 2,019 (17.12%)
Swing: 9.27% Democratic
Trend: 16.24% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+27/D+28.5

Representative: Jocasta Zamarripa 
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Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested 
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Birthday: 3/8/1976
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This Assembly District has the highest percentage of Hispanics in Wisconsin at 65.8%. Interesting historical fact is that this used to be a predominantly Polish area in Milwaukee. The make up of this district and the 9th was the result of the lawsuit Baldus et al  vs. Brennan et al. The court ruled that there needed to be one district were Hispanics could have a representative of their choosing rather then having the ability to influence two different districts. 

Assembly District 9
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Counties: Milwaukee 
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,459 (74.81%)/ Romney 4,371 (24.30%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,389 (69.63%)/ McCain 5,148 (28.93%)
Swing: 9.81% Democratic
Trend: 16.78% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+15/D+12

Representative: Josh Zepnick
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested 
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Masters)
Birthday: 3/21/1968
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This districting also has a fairly large Hispanic plurality at 47.8%. It would not be surprising if a Hispanic wins this district whenever Rep. Zepnick chooses to retire.

Still hungry!!!


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 11, 2013, 03:31:16 AM
Senate District 4
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Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+31
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee, Shorewood and Glendale  
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 75,690 (86.12%)/ Romney 11,642 (13.25%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 71,776 (84.45%)/ McCain 12,545 (14.76%)
Swing: 3.18% Democratic
Trend: 10.15% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+31/D+33.5

Senator: Lena Taylor
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Lena Taylor 64,064 (86.1%)/ David King 10,154 (13.6%)
Obama Comparison: +0.04%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ Southern Illinois University-Carbondale (J.D.)
Birthday: 7/25/1966
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Columnist and Lawyer  
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is one of the two African American senate districts in Milwaukee. African Americans make up a majority of this district at 58.3%.  It will be interesting to see what will happens to this district as the African American population in Milwaukee continues to decline.

Assembly District 10
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+35
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 29,006 (89.66%)/ Romney 3,111 (9.62%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 27,858 (89.72%)/ McCain 2,973 (9.58%)
Swing: 0.1% Republican
Trend: 6.87% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+38/D39.5

Representative: Sandy Pasch
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Shorewood
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison (Bachelors)/ Bioethics Medical College of Wisconsin & University of Rochester (Masters)
Birthday: 5/19/1954
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Nurse and Professor
Religion: N/A

Notes: There are six majority African American assembly districts in Milwaukee. This is one of them at 62.9% African American. Due to redistricting, the White Northeast Democratic leaning Milwaukee County suburbs were split into three in order to target Sandy Pasch for running against Senator Alberta Darling in the recall. Rep. Pasch chose to run in this district, which caused some controversy. The former Representative from the area, Elizabeth Coggs advised her voters to vote for someone that “looks like you.” This actually angered the voters of the district and Rep. Pasch won the primary in a landside.

Assembly District 11
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
PVI: D+31.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 24,742 (86.93%)/ Romney 3,557 (12.5%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 22,551 (84.66%)/ McCain 3,878 (14.56%)
Swing: 4.33% Democratic  
Trend: 11.3% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+31.5/D+39

Representative: Mandela Barnes
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: Milwaukee, WI
Birthday: 12/1/1986
Place of Birth:  Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Community Activist
Religion: N/A

Notes: Another Northside Milwaukee majority African American district. African Americans make up 60.4% of the district. Mandela Barnes defeated former Rep. Jason Fields in a primary where the school voucher program was the key issue. Rep. Fields was a big advocate of school vouchers and the issue led to his demise.

Assembly District 12
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
PVI: D+25
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 21,942 (81.04%)/ Romney 4,974 (18.37%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 20,844 (77.88%)/ McCain 5,676 (21.21%)
Swing: 6% Democratic
Trend: 12.97% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+34/D+23

Representative: Fred Kessler
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 1/11/1940
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Labor Arbitrator
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district has the smallest African American percentage of the six assembly districts at 51.1%. That percentage will most likely continue to go down as the decade continues.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Talleyrand on February 11, 2013, 08:54:26 PM
Notes: This district has the smallest African American percentage of the six assembly districts at 51.1%. That percentage will most likely continue to go down as the decade continues.

What exactly is going on there with the Black population?


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 11, 2013, 09:04:24 PM
Senate District 5
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Waukesha  
Three Largest Entities: Wauwatosa, West Allis and Brookfield
PVI: R+10.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 45,236 (43.04%)/ Romney 59,046 (56.18%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 48,316 (45.23%)/ McCain 57,134 (53.49%)
Swing: 4.88% Republican
Trend: 2.09% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+10/R+3.5

Senator: Leah Vukmir
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Leah Vukmir 36,852 (52.15%)/ Incumbent Jim Sullivan 33,702 (47.69%) (2010 – Old Lines)
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Wauwatosa
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: Marquette University (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Masters)
Birthday: 4/26.1958
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Nurse Practitioner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is one of the first districts that were gerrymandered in the 2011 redistricting cycle. The old 5th Assembly District was predominantly a western suburban Milwaukee County district that only went into Waukesha County to pick up about 11% of the district. In the new district Waukesha County makes up 41% of the district. This effectively turned a good toss up district into a safe Republican district. Also all three Assembly Districts, which were previously centered in the major cities in the district (Wauwatosa, West Allis and Eastern Brookfield) with 2 held by the Democrats, were transformed into horizontal strips which resulted in all three becoming safely Republican.        

Assembly District 13
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Waukesha  
PVI: R+11.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,203 (41.55%)/ Romney 20,982 (57.34%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,263 (44.82%)/ McCain 19,573 (53.94%)
Swing: 6.67% Republican
Trend: 0.3% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+10/D+3.5

Representative: Rob Hutton
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Rob Hutton 20,367 (60.5%)/ John Pokrandt 13,258 (39.4%) (Seat Flipped)
Obama Comparison: +2.17%  
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Brookfield
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Birthday: 4/7/1967
Place of Birth: N/A
Profession: Trucking CEO
Religion: Christian

Notes: This is now the center assembly district strip, consisting of Southern Brookfield, Elm Grove, Southern Wauwatosa and Northern West Allis. In the old map this district was centered in Eastern Wauwatosa and Western Milwaukee and was represented by  Democrat David Cullen for 23 years.

Assembly District 14
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Waukesha  
PVI: R+11
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,275 (42.82%)/ Romney 21,705 (57.11%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,142 (44.33%)/ McCain 21,113 (54.6%)
Swing: 4.02% Republican
Trend: 2.95% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+11/R+11

Representative: Dale Kooyenga
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Dale Kooyenga 20,976 (59.1%)/ Chris Rockwood 14,490 (40.8%)
Obama Comparison: +2.01%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Brookfield
Prior Offices: None
Education: Marquette University  
Birthday: 2/12/1979
Place of Birth: Oak Lawn, IL  
Profession: CPA
Religion: N/A

Notes: Based on the numbers this district didn’t change. Geographically the district went from being centered in Eastern Brookfield and the far western parts of Wauwatosa to being the northern assembly district strip.  

Assembly District 15
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Waukesha
PVI: R+8.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,758 (45.09%)/ Romney 16,359 (53.61%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,911 (46.81%)/ McCain 16,448 (51.63%)
Swing: 3.7% Republican
Trend: 3.27% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9/R+3

Representative: Joe Sanfelippo
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Joe Sanfelippo 17,745 (58.3%)/ Cindy Moore 12,668 (41.6%) (Seat Flipped)
Obama Comparison: +3.48%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: West Allis
Prior Offices: None
Education: Marquette University  
Birthday: 2/26/1964
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Landscaping business
Religion: Catholic

Notes: This district is the southern strip district. This district used to be centered in West Allies and was represented by Democrat Tony Staskunas for 16 years. Interesting thing about the redistricting is that it effectively removed the social conservative Democrats that were popular in the Western suburbs of Milwaukee County, such as Rep. Staskunas.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 11, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
Notes: This district has the smallest African American percentage of the six assembly districts at 51.1%. That percentage will most likely continue to go down as the decade continues.

What exactly is going on there with the Black population?

I don't know what exactly is happening to the Black Community in Milwaukee, but I think its a similar occurrence to what's happening across the Rust Belt where Blacks are leaving and moving to Southern Cities.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 12, 2013, 02:41:50 AM
Senate District 6
()
Counties: Milwaukee
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee
PVI: D+33.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 77,993 (89.16%)/ Romney 9.336 (10.67%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 72.586 (87.26%)/ McCain 9,959 (11.97%)
Swing: 3.2% Democratic
Trend: 10.17% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+34.5/D+36

Senators: Nikiya Harris
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: Milwaukee County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee  
Birthday: 2/22/1975
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Former nonprofit fundraising professional
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the second of the two African American majority districts. African Americans make up 60.5 % of this district. The western part of Downtown Milwaukee and Marquette University are in this district.  

Assembly District 16
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+36
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 25,647 (91.73%)/ Romney 2,548 (9.11%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 24,028 (88.97%)/ McCain 2,750 (10.18%)
Swing: 3.83% Democratic  
Trend: 10.8% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+37/D+35.5

Representative: Leon Young
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1993
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 7/4/1967
Place of Birth: Los Angeles, California
Profession:  Police Officer
Religion: N/A

Notes:  This district is 58.2% African American. The western part of Downtown Milwaukee is in this district which includes Marquette University and the Bradley Center.

Assembly District 17
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
PVI: D+30.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 27,549 (85.93%)/ Romney 4,329 (13.5%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 25,324 (83.8%)/ McCain 4,329 (15.39%)
Swing: 4.02% Democratic
Trend: 10.99% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+31/D+37.5

Representative: La Tonya Johnson
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: La Tonya Johnson 20,288 (84.7%)/ Anthony Edwards (14.9%)
Obama Comparison: +1.2%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: Tennessee State  
Birthday: 6/22/1972
Place of Birth: La Grange, TN
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is 60.4% African American. Not much else to say about this district.

Assembly District 18
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+35.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 24,797 (90.31%)/ Romney 2,459 (8.96%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 23,757 (89.64%)/ McCain 2,575 (9.72%)
Swing: 1.43% Democratic
Trend: 8.4% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+37/D+35

Representative: Evan Goyke
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Evan Goyke 16,276 (87.9%)/ Melba Morris-Page (11.6%)
Obama Comparison: +2.38%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: St. John’s University (Bachelors)/ Marquette Univeristy(J.D.)
Birthday: 11/24/1982
Place of Birth: Neenah, WI
Profession: Assistant Public Defender
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is 63.2% African American. Another example of a white representative in a African American district. The Miller Brewery Factory is in this district.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 13, 2013, 12:36:19 AM
Senate District 7
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee, Oak Creek and South Milwaukee
PVI: D+5.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 57,658 (59.23%)/ Romney 38,104 (39.14%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 59,905 (61.23%)/ McCain 36,236 (37.04%)
Swing: 4.1% Republican
Trend: 2.87 Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+6.5/D+8

Representative: Chris Larson
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Chris Larson 37,165 (57.11%)/ Jess Ripp 27,772 (42.68%) (2010 – Old Lines)
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Milwaukee, WI
Prior Offices: Milwaukee County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Birthday: 11/12/1980
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Sporting Goods Manager
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the white lakeshore Milwaukee district and it didn’t radically change much in redistricting. The Oak Creek is a conservative suburb but the other three suburbs in the district (Cudahy, South Milwaukee and St. Francis) are more Democratic normally but did go to the Republicans in 2010. Even with those conservative areas, the district is too Democratic for a Republican to ever win.

Assembly District 19
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+16.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 24,671 (69.66%)/ Romney 9,981 (28.18%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 26,494 (72.49%)/ McCain 9,315 (25.49%)
Swing: 5.52% Republican
Trend: 1.45 Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+20/D+18

Representative: Jon Richards
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: Lawrence University (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (J.D.)
Birthday: 9/5/1963
Place of Birth: Waukesha, WI
Profession: Teacher
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the Milwaukee lakeshore district. It also includes the eastern part of Downtown, the University of Wisconsin-Milaukee and the famous Summerfest Grounds.  

Assembly District 20
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: D+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,437 (58.4%)/ Romney 12,670 (40.13%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 18,510 (58.25%)/ McCain 12,706 (39.98%)
Swing: 0.1% Republican
Trend: 6.87% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+4.5/D+2.5

Representative: Christine Sinicki
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election:  Christine Sinicki 16,995 (57.5%)/ Molly McGartand 12,500 (42.3%)
OBama Comparison: +0.88%
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: N/A
Birthday: 3/28/1960
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Small Business Manager
Religion: A/A

Notes: This district includes General Mitchell International Airport and two of the Southeast Milwaukee County suburbs of Cudahy and St. Francis. As long as Rep. Sinicki represents this district it will be safe for the Democrats, but it could be competitive in an open election.

Assembly District 21
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: R+5.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,550 (47.92%)/ Romney 15,453 (50.9%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,901 (50.48%)/ McCain 14,215 (48.16%)
Swing: 5.3% Republican
Trend: 1.67% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6/R+5

Representative: Mark Hondel
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mark Hondel 17,403 (59.3%)/ William Kurtz 11,921(40.6%)
Obama Comparison: +7.31%
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: South Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: Milwaukee Area Technical College
Birthday: 3/29/1956
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Industrial Manager
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is predominately an Oak Creek district along with South Milwaukee. Barring an open seat in a big Democratic year this is a safe Republican Seat.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Dave from Michigan on February 13, 2013, 01:02:17 AM
interesting thread. It's weird to me how each senate seat is divided into 3 house seats. In Michigan there all separate, there are 38 senate seats and 110 house seats. I think I prefer the Michigan way though. I might do something like this for Michigan for the 2014 elections. In Michigan all the State Senate is up every 4 years with the governor in midterm years (2010,2014). the state house is up every two years. So the state senate was elected under the 2000 redistricting and 2014 will be all new seats (but gerrymandered by the Republicans). The state house was up under new seats in 2012.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on February 13, 2013, 08:14:13 PM
Actually the African-American population of Milwaukee is growing. It was 37% in 2000 and 40% in 2010 (and the city as a whole grew slightly during that period so it's not a case of a smaller gross loss being a proportional increase).

My impression is that there is migration of African-Americans away from Chicago towards smaller cities in the region in general, so most cities within a few hours of Chicago have a growing Black population despite the general trend away from the Rust Belt towards the south.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: minionofmidas on February 14, 2013, 08:29:56 AM
I would certainly imagine those northwestern inner suburbs within the city to be getting Blacker still.
Beautiful thread; we need more like them.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 15, 2013, 11:47:18 PM
interesting thread. It's weird to me how each senate seat is divided into 3 house seats. In Michigan there all separate, there are 38 senate seats and 110 house seats. I think I prefer the Michigan way though. I might do something like this for Michigan for the 2014 elections. In Michigan all the State Senate is up every 4 years with the governor in midterm years (2010,2014). the state house is up every two years. So the state senate was elected under the 2000 redistricting and 2014 will be all new seats (but gerrymandered by the Republicans). The state house was up under new seats in 2012.

Interesting, I don't think I would like the Michigan system because I like the fact that there is constancy in who everyone in your Assembly district is voting for. It allows things to be less confusing to have the lower house districts in the upper house districts. Know I would say that I would prefer to have the Minnesota system of only having 2 House seats per Senate district, but to have more Senate Districts. Minnesota has 67 Senate seats and then 134 House seats, while Wisconsin has 33 Senate seats and 99 Assembly seats. Minnesota and Wisconsin have very similar populations, but Minnesotans get better representation in both the Senate and the Lower House.

Actually the African-American population of Milwaukee is growing. It was 37% in 2000 and 40% in 2010 (and the city as a whole grew slightly during that period so it's not a case of a smaller gross loss being a proportional increase).

My impression is that there is migration of African-Americans away from Chicago towards smaller cities in the region in general, so most cities within a few hours of Chicago have a growing Black population despite the general trend away from the Rust Belt towards the south.

Thanks for giving me the heads up on that. I just assumed that because all of the old African American districts had less then the necessary population before redistricting, that meant that they where going elsewhere. Should be interesting to see what happens if their % of the city continues to grow as the Hispanic population continues to grow as well.

I would certainly imagine those northwestern inner suburbs within the city to be getting Blacker still.
Beautiful thread; we need more like them.

We'll have to see, the only suburb in the county that has a substantial African American population is Brown Deer. Many of those other suburbs in that area have extremely high property values, so it could be difficult of the African American population to take off there. Also thanks for the compliment on the thread! :)
 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 23, 2013, 03:59:40 AM
Senate District 8
()
Counties: Milwaukee, Ozaukee, Washington and Waukesha  
Three Largest Entities: Menomonee Falls, Mequon and Germantown
PVI: 12.5%
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,832 (40.83%)/ Romney 60,861 (59.40%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 46,856 (43.37%)/ McCain 59,895 (55.44%)
Swing: 6.5% Republican
Trend: 0.44% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+11.5/R+3.5

Senator: Alberta Darling
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1993
Hometown: River Hills
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 4/28/1944
Place of Birth: Hammond, IN
Profession: Teacher
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is another one of the Milwaukee area districts that went from being potentially competitive to totally out of reach for Democrats. In the prior map, this district included more of the northern reaches of the City of Milwaukee and almost all of the Northeast suburbs. This new district pulled farther out of Milwaukee County and more into the hardcore Republican suburbs. This is the seat that took forever to call in the first set of recalls because of Waukesha County's Kathy Nickolaus.    

Assembly District 22
()
Counties: Milwaukee, Washington and Waukesha
PVI: R+18.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,682 (34.76%)/ Romney 23,670 (64.88%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,068 (37.17%)/ McCain 21,676 (61.51%)
Swing: 5.78% Republican
Trend: 1.16% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+18.5/D+10.5

Representative: Don Pridemore
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested  
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Hartford
Prior Offices: None
Education: Marquette University
Birthday: 10/20/1946
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: Another thing that happened in this district was that the Democratic Northeast Milwaukee County suburbs that made up the old 22nd were divided in two and given to the 23rd and 24th. This change was meant to target Rep. Sandy Pasch. The new 22nd moved to Southwest Washington County and Northeastern Waukesha County. One of the biggest partisan shifts for an assembly district and it is one of the first changes that I made in my map. Don Pridemore is currently running for State Superintendent.    

Assembly District 23
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Ozaukee
PVI: R+10
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,306 (42.36%)/ Romney 21,821 (56.69%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,158 (47.11%)/ Romney 18,872 (51.82%)
Swing: 2.56% Republican
Trend: 4.38% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+7.5/R+2.5


Representative: Jim Ott
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Jim Ott 22,536 (62.2%)/ Cris Rogers 13,669 (37.7%)
Obama Comparison: +4.63%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Mequon
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Masters)/ Marquette University (J.D.)  
Birthday: 6/5/1947
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Professor
Religion: N/A

Notes:Has the Lakeshore part of the Northeast Milwaukee County suburbs. This area of the county will be fixed in my Wisconsin State Legislature maps. Went from a possibly competitive district to a safe Republican seat.  

Assembly District 24
()
Counties: Milwaukee, Ozaukee, Washington and Waukesha
PVI: R+9.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,902 (44.5%)/ Romney 18,259 (54.52%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,700 (45.52%)/ McCain 19,554 (53.29%)
Swing: 2.56% Republican
Trend: 4.38% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9/R+19

Representative: Daniel Knodl  
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Daniel Knodl 20,932 (62.4%)/ Shan Haqqi (37.5%)
Obama Comparison: +6.97%
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Germantown
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 12/14/1958
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Resort Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district becomes ten points less Republican, but it is still untouchable for any Democrat. Takes in the western part of the Northeastern Milwaukee County suburbs and goes up into Germantown and parts of Menomonee Falls.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 24, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
Senate District 9
()
Counties: Calumet, Manitowoc and Sheboygan
Three Largest Entities: Sheboygan, Manitowoc and Plymouth
PVI: R+6.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 42,250 (45.87%)/ Romney 48,844 (53.03%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 45,938 (50.4%) McCain 43,790 (48.50%)
Swing: 9.59% Republican
Trend: 2.62% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+7.5/R+5.5

Senator: Joseph Leibham
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Joe Leibham 45,663 (73.11%)/ Jason Borden 15,775 (26.86%) (2010 – Old Lines)
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Sheboygan
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison  
Birthday: 6/6/1969
Place of Birth: Sheboygan, WI
Profession: Account Executive
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: The one complaint that I have about this district is the split of Manitowoc and Two Rivers, with the later being in Senate District 1. You could exchange the Chilton area of Calumet County with Two Rivers and both districts would be better off. Another point to make is how much this area, especially Manitowoc County, has trended to Republicans over about the last 40 years. When Democrats won the state of Wisconsin between 1960 and 1996 they always won Manitowoc County and they always did decent in Sheboygan County. Now both counties are usually the last to go to the Democrats in a landslide scenario like Obama in 2008 and he still lost Sheboygan County by .65%.

Assembly District 25
()
Counties: Calumet and Manitowoc  
PVI: R+5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,782 (48.51%)/ Romney 15,201 (51.69%)  
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,004 (51.82%)/ McCain 13,445 (46.43%)
Swing: 10.22% Republican
Trend: 3.25% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6/R+5.5

Representative: Paul Tittl  
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Paul Tittl 16,287 (57.6%)/ Jim Brey 11,947 (42.2%)  
Obama Comparison: +4.64%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Manitowoc
Prior Offices: None
Education: None
Birthday: 11/23/1961
Place of Birth: Delavan, WI
Profession: Owner of a Vacuum and Sewing Center
Religion: Christian

Notes: Due to the historical Democratic strength of this area, if there was a wave year I could see a Democrat winning this district. It should be noted that a Democrat did represent this district from 1993 to 2010. Robert Ziegelabuer became an independent that caucused with the Republicans from 2010 to 2013 due to issues he had with the Democratic leadership in the Assembly.    

Assembly District 26
()
Counties: Sheboygan
PVI: R+7.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,664 (45.05%)/ Romney 16,338 (53.86%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,973 (48.9%)/ McCain 15,165 (49.53%)
Swing: 8.18% Republican
Trend: 1.21% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9/D+0.5

Representative: Michael Endsley
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Michael Endsley 15,018 (51.3%)/ Mike Helmke 14,257 (48.7%)
Obama Comparison: -3.62%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Sheboygan
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Platteville  
Birthday: 3/4/1962
Place of Birth: Sheboygan, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: As you can see on the map, the City of Sheboygan was split in two, which makes this district pretty much unwinnable. I am shocked to see how well the Democrat did here in the last election, but my guess is that’s the best one could do given how Republican the southern part of this district is.  

Assembly District 27
()
Counties: Calumet, Manitowoc and Sheboygan
PVI: R+6.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,804 (45.75%)/ Romney 17,305 (53.47%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,961 (50.56%)/ McCain 15,180 (48.09%)
Swing: 10.19% Republican
Trend: 3.22% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+8/R+10

Representative: Steve Kestell
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Steve Kestell 18,101 (57.9%)/ 13,148 (42%)
Obama Comparison: +3.7%
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Elkhart Lake, WI
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 6/15/1955
Place of Birth: Lyndon, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Christian

Notes: This district got the northern half of the City of Sheboygan, which did cause this district to become two points more Democratic. This is still though unwinnable for the Democrats.  


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 25, 2013, 03:25:11 AM
Senate District 10
()
Counties: Burnett, Dunn, Pierce, Polk and St. Croix  
Three Largest Entities: Menomonie, River Falls and Hudson
PVI: R+6
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 42,328 (46.5%)/ Romney 47,919 (52.65%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 46,187 (50.42%)/ McCain 43,666 (47.67%)
Swing: 8.9% Republican
Trend: 1.93% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6/R+6

Senator: Sheila Harsdorf
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Shelia Harsdorf 51,911 (59.2%)/ Daniel Olson 35,728 (40.7%)
Serving Since: 2001
Hometown: River Falls
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
Birthday: 7/25/1956
Place of Birth: St. Paul, MN
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This is Wisconsin’s Twin Cities Metro Area district and like the far suburban/exurban areas in Minnesota, this district rapidly moved away from the Democrats since 2000. Carter, Dukakis and Clinton all preformed very strongly in this region of the state and Carter actually won this district in 1980 against Regan. Yet since then this district has rapidly swung to the right. It was the only large area of the state to trend against Obama in 2008 even though he did win it. It would take a major wave for a Democrat to come close.

Assembly District 28
()
Counties: Burnett, Polk and St. Croix  
PVI: R+9
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,833 (43.59%)/ Romney 16,093 (54.66%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,839 (46.97%)/ McCain 15,032 (51.02%)
Swing: 7.02% Republican
Trend: 0.05% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9/R+8.5

Representative: Erik Severson
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Erik Severson 15,865 (56.2%)/ Adam T. Bever 12,347 (43.7%)
Obama Comparison: +0.13%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Star Prairie  
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Minnesota-Duluth (Bachelors)/ Mayo Medical School (M.D.)
Birthday: 2/3/1974
Place of Birth: Duluth, MN
Profession: Physician
Religion: N/A

Notes: Interesting note about this district is a Democrat actually served here for two terms and only lost out in the 2010 Republican Wave. So while the numbers don’t look great here, it is possible for a Democrat to win here, but it would probably take a 2006 like wave.  

Assembly District 29
()
Counties: Dunn and St. Croix  
PVI: R+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,615 (48.32%)/ Romney 15,052 (49.76%)  
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,525 (52.65%)/ Romney 13,379 (45.37%)
Swing: 8.72% Republican
Trend: 1.75% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4.5/R+5

Representative: John Murtha
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: John Murtha 15,237 (55.8%)/ Jim Swanson 12,004 (44%)
Obama Comparison: +4.33%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Baldwin
Prior Offices: St. Croix County Supervisor  
Education: Chippewa Valley Tech
Birthday: 8/8/1951
Place of Birth: Baldwin, WI
Profession: Self-Employed
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district could be potentially competitive whenever Rep. Murtha chooses to retire. The college town of Menominee and the swingy New Richmond could push the district to the Democrats under the right conditions.  

Assembly District 30
()
Counties: Pierce and St. Croix  
PVI: R+10
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,880 (47.49%)/ Romney 16,774 (53.53%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,823 (51.52%)/ McCain 15,255 (46.72%0
Swing: 10.84% Republican
Trend: 3.87% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5/R+5

Representative: Dean Knudson
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Dean Knudson 17,261 (55.8%)/ Diane Odeen 13,657 (44.1%)
Obama Comparison: +3.55%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Hudson
Prior Offices: Mayor of Hudson, Hudson Alderperson
Education: North Dakota State University (Bachelors),  Iowa State University (D.V.M.)
Birthday: 4/29/1961
Place of Birth: Mayville, ND
Profession: Veterinarian
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: In a wave year this district too could be competitive as River Falls is a college town and Hudson will vote for the Democrat sometimes. Would probably need for Rep. Knudson to retire and have a wave year for that to happen though.  


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 25, 2013, 09:51:03 PM
I just did the number crunching for SD-17, which is Shultz's district in the Southwest part of the state. He represents a D+3.5 district and there are 3 Republican Representatives that represent D+4, D+0.5 and a D+6.5 districts. If the Democrats are going to even try to get competitive in the legislature they need to take all for of these seats. There is no reason a Republican should be representing a D+6.5 district.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 25, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
Senate District 3
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
Three Largest Entities: Milwaukee, West Allis, and Greenfield
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,753 (69.04%)/ Romney 18,076 (29.89%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 38,066 (65.64%)/ McCain 19,059 (32.87%)
Swing: 6.38% Democratic
Trend: 13.35% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+10/D+7

Senator: Tim Carpenter
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Tim Carpenter 23,401(61.09%)/ Annette Krznarich 14,796 (38.36%)  
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (Masters)
Birthday: N/A
Place of Birth: St. Francis, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes:  The interesting to note about this Safe Democratic seat is that it contains the highest percentage of Hispanics in any Senate seat in Wisconsin. A majority of the Hispanics in Milwaukee is of Puerto Rican dissent, but the number of Mexicans in the city is growing.  Hispanics make up 40.5% of the district. That number is expected to grow larger in the future and could possibly become the plurality by 2020. I would guess that that next Senator from this district would be Hispanic.

Assembly District 7
()
Counties: Milwaukee
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,372 (57.00%)/ Romney 11,957 (41.63%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,033 (56.44%)/ McCain 11,892 (41.86%)
Swing: 0.79% Democratic
Trend: 7.76% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+1/D+3

Representative: Daniel Riemer
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Uncontested (There was a write-in campaign by former Rep. Peggy Krusick, who lost to Riemer 2 to 1 in the primary, that failed miserably)
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Chicago
Birthday: 12/10/1986
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is an interesting district as Daniel Riemer, 26 years old, was able to defeat Rep. Peggy Krusick at a 2 to 1 margin. I am surprised that the Republicans didn’t run a candidate in this district in the general election, as it is only D+1. This will be one to watch in 2014 as you have a young Freshman, running in a close district and there is probably still some bad blood from knocking out a 20 year incumbent.  

Assembly District 8
()
Counties: Milwaukee
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,922 (86.64%)/ Romney 1,748 (12.7%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 9,644 (81.79%)/ McCain 2,019 (17.12%)
Swing: 9.27% Democratic
Trend: 16.24% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+27/D+28.5

Representative: Jocasta Zamarripa  
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Birthday: 3/8/1976
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This Assembly District has the highest percentage of Hispanics in Wisconsin at 65.8%. Interesting historical fact is that this used to be a predominantly Polish area in Milwaukee. The make up of this district and the 9th was the result of the lawsuit Baldus et al  vs. Brennan et al. The court ruled that there needed to be one district were Hispanics could have a representative of their choosing rather then having the ability to influence two different districts.  

Assembly District 9
()
Counties: Milwaukee  
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,459 (74.81%)/ Romney 4,371 (24.30%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,389 (69.63%)/ McCain 5,148 (28.93%)
Swing: 9.81% Democratic
Trend: 16.78% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+15/D+12

Representative: Josh Zepnick
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested  
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milwaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Masters)
Birthday: 3/21/1968
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This districting also has a fairly large Hispanic plurality at 47.8%. It would not be surprising if a Hispanic wins this district whenever Rep. Zepnick chooses

Wait a minute.  Why would a district where Romney only got 42% of vote be "competitive" for Republicans in 2014 while seats that gave Obama a percentage in the high 40's only be competitive for Democrats in a "wave" and with an open seat. 

It looks like AD-07 is trending Dem and is about D+6.  Republicans are not winning a seat like that even in a 2010 like envrionment.  Even Kerry probably won there for God's sake. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Maps and Occasional Opinion
Post by: Gass3268 on February 25, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
Wait a minute.  Why would a district where Romney only got 42% of vote be "competitive" for Republicans in 2014 while seats that gave Obama a percentage in the high 40's only be competitive for Democrats in a "wave" and with an open seat. 

It looks like AD-07 is trending Dem and is about D+6.  Republicans are not winning a seat like that even in a 2010 like envrionment.  Even Kerry probably won there for God's sake. 

Statewide this district is only D+2 and If you average the results of Walker and Johnson in 2010, the Republicans  actually won AD-07 by 1.6%. Local Democrats do tend to do better in this area of Milwaukee, but it is very much a working class/blue collar district and it wouldn't shock me if a Republican won here in a wave.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on February 26, 2013, 04:43:23 PM
Why were Senate districts 3 and 7 drawn the way they were?

There are some Republican stranded in Assembly district 7 and a lot of liberals in Assembly district  19. These could be exchanged.

Assembly districts 7, 20, 21 total out to roughly a 55% Obama district.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 27, 2013, 06:33:35 AM
Why were Senate districts 3 and 7 drawn the way they were?

There are some Republican stranded in Assembly district 7 and a lot of liberals in Assembly district  19. These could be exchanged.

Assembly districts 7, 20, 21 total out to roughly a 55% Obama district.

That's an interesting point and I never thought about it that way. The only reason I could think as to why they didn't draw it that was appearance, as this new SD7 wouldn't look to pretty, and probably the precedent of having a Southern Milwaukee district and a Lakeshore Milwaukee district. If you look at the entire map, the legislature really didn't blow up or radically alter any of the Senate Districts, Assembly is a different story. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 23, 2013, 12:59:21 AM
Sorry for the delay on this project. I have been doing all of the calculations and add ups for all of the districts the past few weeks. I also went back and added the PVI's for each district, using 2008 and 2012 data, and I showed well the Democratic candidate compared to Obama's 2012 performance in that district.

Senate District 11 will be posted soon!


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 23, 2013, 02:07:19 AM
Senate District 11
()
Counties: Jefferson, Kenosha, Racine, Rock, Walworth and Waukesha
Three Largest Entities: Fort Atkinson, Elkhorn and Delavan
PVI: R+9
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 38,816 (43.47%)/ Romney 50,298 (56.33%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 41,149 (47.39%)/ McCain 44,467 (51.21%)
Swing: 9.04% Republican
Trend: 2.07% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+10.5/R+17.5

Senator: Neal Kedzie
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Neal Kedzie 55,121 (75.37%)/ L.D. Rockwell 17,955 (24.55%)  
Obama Comparison: 2014 election
Serving Since: 2002
Hometown: Elkhorn
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater  
Birthday: 1/27/1956
Place of Birth: Waukesha, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Catholic

Notes: The main reason for the 7 point Republican drop in this district is that in order to pull the 5th, the 9th and 13th more into the Milwaukee suburbs, this district had to be pushed into more Democratic leaning areas. This is still a super safe Republican district and the Democrats have no chance. 

Assembly District 31
()
Counties: Rock and Walworth
PVI: R+6
2012 Presidential Election: 14,064 (46.48%)/ 15,850 (52.39%)
2008 Presidential Election: 14,819 (50.89%)/ 13,894 (47.72%)
Swing: 9.08% Republican
Trend: 2.11% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6.5/R+17.5

Representative: Amy Loudenbeck
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Amy Loudenbeck 16,463 (56.5%)/ Ryan Schroeder 12,653 (43.4%)
Obama Comparison: +3.07
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Clinton
Prior Offices: Town of Clinton supervisor
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 9/29/1969
Place of Birth: Midland, MI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: Representative Loudenbeck won the Beloit based Assembly District 45 in 2010. This district was a D+4.5 and she would have lost in all likelihood lost in 2012. So the Republican legislature created a district for her that includes her hometown of Clinton, the eastern parts of Rock County which is more Republican then the rest of the county and the western part of Walworth County.

Assembly District 32
()
Counties: Kenosha, Racine and Walworth  
PVI: R+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 10,745 (41.18%)/ Romney 15,006 (57.51%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,740 (46.58%)/ McCain 14,203 (51.93%)
Swing: 10.98% Republican
Trend: 4.01% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+12/R+10.5

Representative: Tyler August
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Tyler August 15,586 (57.1%)/ Kim Peterson 10,828 (39.7%)
Obama Comparison: +1.51
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Lake Geneva
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 1/26/1983
Place of Birth: N/A
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district just shifted around a bit. Was a southern Walworth County district, but is now a eastern Walworth County district.   

Assembly District 33
()
Counties: Jefferson, Walworth and Waukesha
PVI: R+11
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,007 (41.27%)/ Romney 19,442 (57.28%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,604 (44.47%)/ McCain 16,398 (53.93%)
Swing: 6.82% Republican
Trend: 0.15% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+12.5/R+22

Representative: Stephen Nass
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Stephen Nass 18,891 (62.8%)/ Scott Woods 10,229 (34%)
Obama Comparison: +7.27%
Serving Since: 1990
Hometown: Whitewater
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Birthday: 10/7/1952
Place of Birth: Whitewater, WI
Profession: Information Analyst/Negotiator/Payroll Benefits Analyst
Religion: N/A

Notes: This was one of 3 districts that was designed to target Democratic Representative Andy Jorgensen who had represented Assembly District 37. The old district was R+1.5 and it was composed of eastern Dane County and the more Democratic parts of western Jefferson County. So the Assembly map were drawn to split this district into 3 parts and pull them into Waukesha County, making them uncompetitive. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on March 23, 2013, 05:25:11 AM
Stephen Nass looks remarkably like Tyler August. -_-


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: krazen1211 on March 23, 2013, 10:47:15 AM
One really useful thing would be to caption each senate district with the components of its house districts.


IE:

SD-07: DDR
SD-11: RRR


Good maps though.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 23, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
I fixed Stephen Nass' picture and added a Party Incumbent section. Also I realized I forgot to give notes on the SD11 section, so that will be added tonight.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 07, 2013, 11:59:16 PM
Quote
John Nichols ‏@NicholsUprising 2m
Feingold to WI Ds: "I don't come to you tonight as a candidate, at least not in 2013 or 2014, or 2015." Next Sen race is 2016. @thenation

This would make me very happy! :)


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: free my dawg on June 08, 2013, 12:04:06 AM
Quote
John Nichols ‏@NicholsUprising 2m
Feingold to WI Ds: "I don't come to you tonight as a candidate, at least not in 2013 or 2014, or 2015." Next Sen race is 2016. @thenation

This would make me very happy! :)

I'm a little depressed he won't run against Walker, but Wisconsin has to be dealing with buyers' remorse right now.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 09, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Senate District 12
()
Counties: Florence, Forest, Langlade, Lincoln, Marathon, Marinette, Menominee, Oconto, Oneida, Shawano and Vilas
Three Largest Entities: Merrill, Antigo and Rhinelander
PVI: R+5.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 43,774 (45.91%)/ Romney 50,411 (52.87%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 49,005 (52.14%)/ McCain 43,461 (46.24%)
Swing: 12.86% Republican
Trend: 5.89% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5/R+4.5

Senator: Thomas Tiffany
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Thomas Tiffany 51,176 (56.2%)/ Susan Sommer (40.5%)  
Obama Comparison: +5.41%  
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Hazelhurst
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly, Town Supervisor
Education: University of Wisconsin-River Falls
Birthday: 12/30/1957
Place of Birth: Wabasha, MN
Profession: Agriculture and Petroleum business
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district did not fundamentally change due to redistricting. What did change was former State Senator Jim Holperin (D-Conover) retired. There was no democrat waiting in the wings that could replace him in this Republican district.

Assembly District 34
()
Counties: Florence, Forest, Oneida and Vilas  
PVI: R+7
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,108 (44.62%)/ Romney 19,550 (54.15%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,732 (50.58%)/ McCain 16,747 (47.77%)
Swing: 12.34% Republican
Trend: 5.37% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6.5/R+5.5

Representative: Rob Swearingen
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Rob Swearingen 19,442 (57.2%)/ Merlin Van Buren 12,297 (36.2%)
Obama Comparison: +8.47%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Rhinelander
Prior Offices: None
Education: None
Birthday: 7/23/1963
Place of Birth: Rhinelander, WI
Profession: Restaurant Owner and Operator
Religion: N/A

Notes: Due to loss of population over the decade, this district had to expand. Other than that it’s a safe Republican seat.  

Assembly District 35
()
Counties: Langland, Lincoln, Marathon, Oneida and Shawano  
PVI: R+4.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,150 (47.09%)/ Romney 15,528 (51.68%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15, 931 (53.40%/ McCain 13,365 (44.80%)
Swing: 13.19% Republican
Trend: 6.22% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4.5/R+3.5

Representative: Mary Czaja
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mary Czaja 15,481 (53.3%)/ Kevin Koth 12,149 (41.8%)
Obama Comparison: +5.26%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Irma
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-River Falls
Birthday: 9/25/1963
Place of Birth: Tomahawk, WI
Profession: Small Business Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district essentially stays the same. This is a district the Dems would have to win in order to bring the margin down in the Assembly.

Assembly District 36
()
Counties: Forest, Langlade, Marinette, Menominee, Oconto and Shawano  
PVI: R+5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,516 (46.29%)/ Romney 15,333 (52.51%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,549 (52.81%)/ McCain 13,479 (45.78%)
Swing: 13.25% Republican
Trend: 6.28% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4.5/R+3.5

Representative: Jeffrey Mursau
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Jeffrey Mursau 15,886 (59.1%)/ Dorothy Kegley 10,997 (40.9%)  
Obama Comparison: +5.41%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Crivitz
Prior Offices: Crivitz Village President
Education: N/A  
Birthday: 6/12/1954
Place of Birth: Oconto Falls, WI
Profession: Small Busniess Owner  
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: No major changes to this district. Another district Dems would have to win in order to get closer in the Assembly.  


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 11, 2013, 02:35:29 AM
Senate District 13
()
Counties: Columbia, Dane, Dodge, Jefferson, Washington and Waukesha
Three Largest Entities: Watertown, Beaver Damn and Oconomowoc
PVI: R+9.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 40,510 (43.08%)/ Romney 52,481 (55.80%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 41,273 (47.16%)/ McCain 45,026 (51.45%)
Swing: 8.43% Republican
Trend: 1.49% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9.5/R+9

Senator: Scott Fitzgerald
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Scott Fitzgerald 47,146 (58.3%)/ Lori Compas 32,909 (40.7%) (2012 Recall)
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 1995
Hometown: Juneau
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh 
Birthday: 11/16/1963
Place of Birth: Chicago, IL
Profession: Business Owner 
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: In order to go after Representative Andy Jorgensen, who had represented the 37th Assembly District, this district had to pull out of the more Democratic friendly areas of Jefferson County. To make up this population they went into Washington County, further into Waukesha County and into Dane County. These changes didn’t affect the Republican strength of this district and it is still a Safe Republican seat. Scott Fitzgerald is the Majority Leader in the State Senate.     

Assembly District 37
()
Counties: Columbia, Dane, Dodge and Jefferson   
PVI: R+7
2012 Presidential Election: 13,698 (45.68%)/ Romney 15,898 (53.01%)
2008 Presidential Election: 14,271 (49.45%)/ McCain 14,122 (48.93%)
Swing: 7.85% Republican
Trend: 0.91% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+7.5/R+1.5

Representative: John Jagler
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: John Jagler 15,799 (54.2%)/ Mary Arnold 13,289 (45.6)
Obama Comparison: +0.13
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Watertown
Prior Offices: None
Education: Trans-American School of Broadcasting (Madison)
Birthday: 11/4/1969
Place of Birth: Louisville, KY
Profession: Owner of a Communication and consulting firm
Religion: N/A

Notes: The new 37th takes most of the area of what was once the 38th. There are some areas of Democratic strength, especially in Columbus, Deforest and Waterloo, but this strength is drowned out by Watertown and the eastern parts of Jefferson County. This district is too far out of reach for the Democrats. The old 37th was a lean Democratic seat.   

Assembly District 38
()
Counties: Dane, Dodge and Waukesha 
PVI: R+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,249 (41.67%)/ Romney 19,635 (57.42%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,968 (46.83%)/ McCain 15,500 (51.96%)
Swing: 10.61% Republican
Trend: 3.68% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9.5/R+15.5

Representative: Joel Kleefisch
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Joel Kleefisch 19,181 (58.5%)/ Scott Michalak 12,795 (39%)   
Obama Comparison: +2.64%
Serving Since: 2004
Hometown: Oconomowoc
Prior Offices: None
Education: Pepperdine University
Birthday: 6/8/1971
Place of Birth: Waukesha, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This takes up a lot of area that was once the 37th. Similar to the 37th this district has some very Democratic areas with Cambridge, Deerfield, Lake Mills and Marshall, but that Oconomowoc in Waukesha County drowns all out. This district did become 6 points more Democratic with redistricting, but it is still a totally safe Republican seat. Rep. Joel Kleefisch is married to Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch.   

Assembly District 39
()
Counties: Dodge and Washington
PVI: R+11
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,563 (42.07%)/ Romney 16,498 (56.75%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,034 (45.21%)/ McCain 15,404 (53.43%)
Swing: 6.46% Republican
Trend: 0.48% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+12.5/R+10.5

Representative: Mark Born
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mark Born 17,465 (60.4%)/ Jim Grigg 11,446 (39.6%)
Obama Comparison: +2.51%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Beaver Dam
Prior Offices:   
Education: Gustavus Adolphus University   
Birthday: 4/14/1976
Place of Birth: Beaver Dam, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district stays pretty much the same other then shifting a bit to the east and into Washington County. This is still a safe Republican seat. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 11, 2013, 04:08:50 AM
Senate District 13
()
Counties: Adams, Columbia, Dane, Dodge, Fond du Lac, Green Lake, Marquette, Outagamie, Sauk, Waupaca and Waushara. 
Three Largest Entities: Ripon, New London and Waupaca   
PVI: R+5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,461 (48.08%)/ Romney 43,871 (50.87%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 44,027 (51.22%)/ McCain 40,650 (47.29%)
Swing: 6.72% Republican
Trend: 0.25% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+5

Senator: Luther Olsen
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Luther Olsen 47,137 (57.5%)/ Margarete Worthington 34,742 (42.4%) 
Obama Comparison: +5.68
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Ripon
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 2/26/1951
Place of Birth: Berlin, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The biggest change to this district is the southern part of district now takes in the area that was once Assembly District 47 instead of Assembly District 42. This was done in order to make life difficult for Rep. Fred Clark who was running against Senator Luther Olsen in the 2011 recalls. He lived in Baraboo, which would have been in the new 27th Senate District. He would have had to move. Other than that the district’s partisan numbers stayed the same.

Assembly District 40
()
Counties: Outagamie, Waupaca and Waushara 
PVI: R+6.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,819 (45.16%)/ Romney 15,352 (54.08%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,551 (50.49%)/ McCain 13,844 (48.04%)
Swing: 11.37% Republican
Trend: 4.40% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6.5/R+6.5

Representative: Kevin Petersen
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison Uncontested
Serving Since:  2007
Hometown: Waupaca
Prior Offices: Town of Dayton Supervisor
Education: University of New Mexico 
Birthday: 12/14/1963
Place of Birth: Waupaca, WI
Profession: Co-Owner of a Family Run Electronics Corporation
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district remains a primarily Waupaca district, which means it’s a safe Republican Seat. 

Assembly District 41
()
Counties: Adams, Columbia, Fond du Lac, Green Lake, Marquette and Waushara   
PVI: R+4.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,780 (48.51%)/ Romney 14,279 (50.27%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,345 (51.51%)/ McCain 13,061 (46.90%)
Swing: 5.21% Republican
Trend: 1.76% Democrat
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+10.5

Representative: Joan Ballweg
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Joan Ballweg 15,035 (57.9%)/ Melissa Sorenson 10,906 (42%)
Obama Comparison: +6.5%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Markesan
Prior Offices: Mayor Of Markesan
Education: University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Birthday: 3/16/1952
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Co-Owner of Farm Equipment Business
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: By taking in more of Adams and Marquette County this district shifted 5 points to the Democrats. On the state level is very much a Republican district and it would take a 2010 like wave in favor of the Democrats for them to have a chance.     

Assembly District 42
()
Counties: Columbia, Dane, Dodge, Green, Fond du Lac and Marquette
PVI: R+3.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,541 (50.75%)/ Romney 14,715 (48.06%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,131 (51.68%)/ McCain 13,745 (46.94%)
Swing: 2.05% Republican
Trend: 4.92% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5/D+1.5

Representative: Keith Ripp
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Keith Ripp 16,394 (56.6%)/ Paula Cooper 12,567 (43.4%)
Obama Comparison: +7.38
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Lodi
Prior Offices: Town of Dane Supervisor
Education: N/A 
Birthday: 11/13/1961
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: Farmer and Small Business Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is essentially the old 47th Assembly District. The older version of this district was D+2.5 and this district did move out of Dane County enough to be safe for Rep. Keith Ripp. This is still a district that Dems need to win if they want to get closer in the Assembly.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 11, 2013, 08:02:31 PM
Senate District 15
()
Counties: Dane, Green, Jefferson, Rock and Walworth
Three Largest Entities: Janesville, Beloit and Whitewater   
PVI: D+8.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 52,344 (61.39%)/ Romney 31,653 (37.12%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 55,225 (64.61%)/ McCain 28,848 (33.7%)
Swing: 6.59% Republican
Trend: 0.31% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+8/D+6.5

Senator: Timothy Cullen
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Timothy Cullen 31,918 (58.98%)/ Rick Richard 22,181 (40.99%)   
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Janesville
Prior Offices: Janesville City Council and Wisconsin State Senate from 1974-1986
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater 
Birthday: 2/25/1944
Place of Birth: Janesville, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The district shifts out of Eastern Rock and Walworth Counties and into Southeastern Dane and Western Green Counties. As a result the district becomes a point and a half more Democratic. Very safe seat for the Democrats.

Assembly District 43
()
Counties: Dane, Jefferson, Rock and Walworth 
PVI: D+5.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,478 (58.13%)/ Romney 12,729 (40.04%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 19,619 (61.86%)/ McCain 11,573 (36.49%)
Swing: 7.28% Republican
Trend: 0.31% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+5.5/D+4

Representative: Andy Jorgenson
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Andy Jorgenson 17,612 (57.6%)/ Evan Wynn 12,894 (42.2%)
Obama Comparison: +0.55%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Fort Atkinson
Prior Offices: None
Education: Brown Institute (MN)
Birthday: 9/10/1967
Place of Birth: Berlin, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district shifted to the north into Dane and Jefferson Counties. As a result it got more Democratic. This was one example of an incumbent versus incumbent race. The former Representative for this district was Republican Evan Wynn, who won a district in the 2010 wave that he had no business holding. Democrat Andy Jorgenson moved from his home in Fort Atkinson that is now in the very Republican District 37, to the southern rural area just outside of Fort Atkinson and he won this district easily. 

Assembly District 44
()
Counties: Rock
PVI: D+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 17,332 (63.20%)/ Romney 9,802 (35.74%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 18,560 (67.24%)/ McCain 8,619 (31.22%)
Swing: 8.56% Republican
Trend: 1.59% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+11/D+11.5

Representative: Debra Kolste
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Debra Kolste 16,983 (61.5%)/ Joe Knilans 10,571 (38.3%)
Obama Comparison: +1.66%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Janesville
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Nebraska
Birthday: 6/20/1953
Place of Birth: O’Neill, NE
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district remains essentially the same. This is the 3rd of the Rock County districts that Republicans gained in the 2010 wave and this was the worst for the Democrats. Joe Knilans in 2010 defeated the Speaker of the Assembly Mike Sheridan by about 500 votes. This district corrected itself in 2012 by a large margin. 

Assembly District 45
()
Counties: Green and Rock
PVI: D+9
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,534 (63.45%)/ Romney 9,122 (35.01%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,046 (65.17%)/ McCain 8,656 (33.10%)
Swing: 3.63% Republican
Trend: 3.34% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+7/D+4.5

Representative: Janis Ringhand
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Janis Ringhand 15,753 (63.7%)/ Beth Schmidt 8,906 (36%)
Obama Comparison: -0.30
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Evansville, WI
Prior Offices: Evansville City Council and Mayor of Evansville
Education: Madison Area Technical College 
Birthday: 2/13/1950
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is a mix of the former 43rd, 45th and 80th. Gets more Democratic to the point were it would be impossible to see a Republican win here, especially with the popular Janis Ringhand as the incumbent.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 11, 2013, 09:11:17 PM
Senate District 16
()
Counties: Dane
Three Largest Entities: Madison, Sun Prairie and Fitchburg
PVI: D+16.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 71,100 (71.22%)/ Romney 28,520 (28.57%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 65,267 (70.94%)/ McCain 25,557 (27.78%)
Swing: 0.51% Republican
Trend: 6.46% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+16/D+12

Senator: Mark Miller
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Monona
Prior Offices: Dane County Board of Supervisors and Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison 
Birthday: 2/1/1943
Place of Birth: Boston, MA
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This senate district shrunk in size as it moved further into the City of Madison and out of Columbia County. As a result the district moved 4 points to the Democrats.   

Assembly District 46
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 20,895 (65.33%)/ Romney 11,754 (36.75%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 19,583 (64.79%)/ Romney 10,283 (34.02%)
Swing: 2.19% Republican
Trend: 4.78% Democrat
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+9.5/D+9.5

Representative: Gary Hebl
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Gary Hebl 20,171 (64.8%)/ Trish Schaefer 10,951 (35.2%)
Obama Comparison: +0.54%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Sun Prairie
Prior Offices: 
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison (Bachelors)/ Gonzaga University (J.D.)
Birthday: 5/15/1951
Place of Birth:
Profession: Lawyer
Religion: N/A

Notes: The only change to this district was it got smaller by sheading its part of Oregon and some of the southern rural townships. Is still a very safe Democratic seat.   

Assembly District 47
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+16.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 23,862 (70.92%)/ Romney 9,347(27.78%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 22,418 (71.57%)/ McCain 8,468 (27.78%)
Swing: 1.39% Republican
Trend: 5.58% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+18/D+2.5

Representative: Robb Kahl
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Robb Kahl 22,113 (70.9%)/ 9,054 (29%)
Obama Comparison: +0.05%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Monona
Prior Offices: Monona City Council and Mayor of Monona
Education: Ripon College (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (J.D.)
Birthday: 1/5/1972
Place of Birth: Menomonee Falls, WI
Profession: Lawyer
Religion: N/A

Notes: The new 47th takes up most of the area that was in the former 48th and a bit of 79th in Fitchburg. This is very safe Eastside Madison district.

Assembly District 48
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+22
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 26,343 (77.01%)/ Romney 7,419 (21.69%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 23,382 (76.41%)/ McCain 6,825 (22.30%)
Swing: 1.21% Democratic
Trend: 8.18% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+23.5/D+22

Representative: Melisa Sargent 
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Melissa Sargent 24,275 (83.2%)/ Terry Gray 4,849 (Libertarian) (16.6%)
Obama Comparison: -6.19%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Madison
Prior Offices: Dane County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 3/28/1969
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: Small Business Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This essentially new district is centered in Northside and Northeast parts of Madison. This is an extremely safe district for the Democrats.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 12, 2013, 03:47:33 AM
Senate District 17
()
Counties: Grant, Green, Iowa, Juneau, Layette, Monroe, Richland, Sauk and Vernon
Three Largest Entities: Platteville, Monroe and Reedsburg     
PVI: D+3.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 46,556 (56.59%)/ Romney 34,753 (42.25%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 48,485 (59.84%)/ McCain 31,297 (38.62%)
Swing: 6.88% Republican
Trend: 0.09% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+2/D+2.5

Senator: Dale Shultz
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Dale Shultz 36,122 (62.6%)/ Carol Beals 21,580 (37.4%) 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 1991
Hometown: Richland Center
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 6/12/1953
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: Farm Manager and Real Estate Broker
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district got slightly more Republican through redistricting. This happened by pulling out of Democratic friendly areas in Eastern Iowa County and Eastern Sauk County. Yet Obama still won this district by more then 14 points, but for some reason it is still a lean Republican district on the local level and it will stay that was as long as Dale Shultz is the Senator. It is also not that surprising that Senator Shultz is the most moderate Republican in the Sate Senate and he's been a pain in the side for the Republican Leadership. Representative Howard Marklein is primarying Senator Shultz from the right for the 2014 election.

Assembly District 49
()
Counties: Grant, Iowa, Lafayette and Richland
PVI: D+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,274 (56.19%)/ Romney 11,457 (42.15%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,606 (61.13%)/ McCain 10,138 (37.32%)
Swing: 9.77% Republican
Trend: 2.80% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+2.5/D+2.5

Representative: Travis Tranel
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Travis Tranel 14,218 (54.2%)/ Carol Beals 11,977 (45.7%)
Obama Comparison: +10.54
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Cuba City
Prior Offices: None
Education: Loras College 
Birthday: 9/12/1985
Place of Birth: Dubuque, IA
Profession: Dairy Farmer and Small Business Owner
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district stayed relatively the same with redistricting as it is still centered in Grant County. A Democrat should be holding this district and there is no way of getting close in the Assembly without this district. 

Assembly District 50
()
Counties: Juneau, Monroe, Richland, Sauk and Vernon   
PVI: D+0.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,430 (53.97%)/ Romney 11,961 (44.73%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,374 (55.83%)/ McCain 10,942 (42.50%)
Swing: 4.09% Republican
Trend: 2.88% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+2/R+2

Representative: Edward Brooks
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Edward Brooks 12,842 (50.3%)/ Sarah Shanahan 11,945 (46.8%) 
Obama Comparison: +7.19%
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Reedsburg 
Prior Offices: Town Supervisor
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 7/1/1942
Place of Birth: Baraboo, WI
Profession: Dairy Producer
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district also stayed about the same, with the only noticeable change is it looks a bit uglier on the bottom. This is another district that Democrats need to win, but it would take a wave to knock out Representative Brooks.

Assembly District 51
()
Counties: Green, Iowa, Lafayette, Richland and Sauk
PVI: D+6.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,852 (59.46%)/ Romney 11,335 (40.00%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,405 (62.33%)/ McCain 10,136 (36.30%)
Swing: 6.52% Republican
Trend: 0.45% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+5/D+7

Representative: Howard Marklein
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Howard Marklein 14,279 (51.9%)/ Maureen May-Grimm 13,238 (48.1%)
Obama Comparison: +11.41%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Spring Green
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater 
Birthday: 10/3/1954
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: CPA and Fraud Examiner
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district moved a couple points to the right by moving out of Eastern Iowa and Sauk Counties, but this seat should be held by a Democratic. There is no excuse as even Barrett and Feingold won this district in 2010. Maybe the Democrats will get lucky and Representative Marklein will knock out Senator Shultz resulting in the Democrats winning they can win both this Assembly seat and Senate seat.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 12, 2013, 04:32:26 PM
Senate District 18
()
Counties: Dodge, Fond du Lac and Winnebago
Three Largest Entities: Oshkosh, Fond du Lac and Waupun   
PVI: R+4.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 42,970 (48.65%)/ Romney 44,063 (49.89%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 44,473 (51.24%)/ McCain 41,061 (47.31%)
Swing: 5.17% Republican
Trend: 1.80% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+.5.5

Senator: Richard Gudex
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Richard Gudex 43,079 (50.3%)/ Jessica King 42,479 (49.6%)
Obama Comparison: -0.95%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Fond du Lac
Prior Offices: Mayor of Mayville and Fond du Lac City Council 
Education: N/A
Birthday: 7/23/1968
Place of Birth: Fond du Lac, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district did not change due to redistricting. This was one of three districts where a recall was successful. Jessica King was probably the best candidate to win and hold this district. She came close to keeping it, but its partisan nature was too much to overcome.

Assembly District 52
()
Counties: Fond du Lac
PVI: R+8
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,248 (44.97%)/ Romney 15,857 (53.82%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,774 (48.01%)/ McCain 14,579 (50.82%)
Swing: 6.04% Republican
Trend: 0.93% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9.5/R+8

Representative: Jeremy Thiesfeldt
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Jeremy Thiesfeldt 16,313 (60.6%)/ Paul Czisny 10.575 (39.3%)
Obama Comparison: +5.66%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Fond du Lac
Prior Offices: Fond du Lac City Council
Education: Dr. Martin Luther College
Birthday: 11/22.1966
Place of Birth: Fond du Lac, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district got a point and a half more Republican, not that it really matters as this is a safe Republican district.   

Assembly District 53
()
Counties: Dodge, Fond du Lac and Winnebago
PVI: R+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,258 (43.28%)/ Romney 15,705 (55.45%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,116 (44.65%)/ McCain 14,588 (53.76%)
Swing: 3.06% Republican
Trend: 3.91% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+11.5/R+12

Representative: Michael Schraa
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Michael Schraa 15,844 (60.3%)/ Ryan Flejter 10,410 (39.6%)
Obama Comparison: +3.68%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Oshkosh
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Birthday: Fort Carson, CO
Place of Birth: 5/17/1961
Profession: Restaurant Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district trades a few townships with the 52nd District, still a safe Republican district. 

Assembly District 54
()
Counties: Winnebago
PVI: D+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 17,464 (57.18%)/ Romney 12,501 (40.93%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 18,583 (60.00%)/ McCain 11,894 (38.40%)
Swing: 5.35% Republican
Trend: 1.62% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+3.5/D+3.5

Representative: Gordon Hintz
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Gordon Hintz 17,400 (59.9%)/ Paul Essinger 11,594 (39.9%)
Obama Comparison: -2.70%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Oshkosh
Prior Offices: None   
Education: Hamline University (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (MBA)
Birthday: 11/29/1973
Place of Birth: Oshkosh, WI
Profession: Municipal Consultant
Religion: Congregationalist

Notes: This district also stays the same, which means it’s a pretty safe Democratic seat and I only see this district getting more Democratic as time goes on. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 12, 2013, 05:26:24 PM
Senate District 19
()
Counties: Outagamie and Winnebago
Three Largest Entities: Appleton, Neenah and Menasha     
PVI: D+2.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 45,794 (49.58%)/ Romney 45,782 (49.57%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 49,161 (54.31%)/ McCain 39,677 (43.83%)
Swing: 10.48% Republican
Trend: 3.51% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+2.5/R+3

Senator: Michael Ellis
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Unopposed in 2010 under the old lines 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 1982
Hometown: Neenah
Prior Offices: Neenah City Council and Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
Birthday: 2/21/1941
Place of Birth: Neenah, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district stays pretty much the same, only getting a bit smaller. This is a district that could become competitive in future elections once Senator Ellis retires and it is a district that Democrats would need to win in order to possibly get the majority back in the Senate.

Assembly District 55
()
Counties: Outagamie and Winnebago
PVI: R+5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,931 (47.18%)/ Romney 16,118 (50.93%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,151 (52.14%)/ McCain 14,187 (45.80%)
Swing: 10.09% Republican
Trend: 3.12% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4.5/D+1

Representative: Dean Kaufert
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Dean Kaufert 19,142 (63%%)/ Jim Crail 10,202 (33.6)
Obama Comparison: +13.63%
Serving Since: 1991
Hometown: Neenah
Prior Offices: Neenah City Council
Education: N/A
Birthday: 5/23/1957
Place of Birth: Outagamie County
Profession: Trophy and Awards Store Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district goes from being a very competitive district to a district that it would be hard to see a Democrat win, other then in a wave year. This was done by adding the City of Menasha to the Appleton centric 57th District and giving this district more rural areas from the 56th. This is still a district that Democrats need to compete for in order to get close in the Assembly, but will have to wait until Dean Kaufert moves on.

Assembly District 56
()
Counties: Outagamie and Winnebago 
PVI: R+8
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,330 (44.33%)/ Romney 18,537 (57.34%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,980 (48.89%)/ McCain 15,240 (49.74%)
Swing: 12.16% Republican
Trend: 5.19% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+8/R+10

Representative: David Murphy
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Dave Murphy 18,306 (58.3%)/ Richard Schoenbohm 13,071 (41.6%) 
Obama Comparison: +2.71
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Greenville
Prior Offices: None
Education:  N/A
Birthday: 11/26/1954
Place of Birth: Appleton, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Lutheran

Notes: This district gets two points more Democratic, this was done by giving more rural areas to 55th District and taking in some of the Northern parts of Appleton. Means nothing, as this district is still very Republican. 

Assembly District 57
()
Counties: Outagamie and Winnebago
PVI: D+6
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,533 (58.23%)/ Romney 11,127 (39.19%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 18,020 (62.37%)/ McCain 10,240 (35.44%)
Swing: 7.89% Republican
Trend: 0.92% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+6/D+3

Representative: Penny Bernard Schaber
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2008
Hometown: Appleton, WI
Prior Offices: None
Education: Southern Illinois University
Birthday: 11/5/1953
Place of Birth: Mundelein, IL
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district gets 3 points more Democratic by adding the City of Menasha. This is very safe Democratic seat for Northeast Wisconsin.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 13, 2013, 06:42:59 PM
Senate District 20
()
Counties: Calumet, Fond du Lac, Ozaukee, Sheboygan and Washington 
Three Largest Entities: West Bend, Cedarburg and Port Washington   
PVI: R+20
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 33,919 (31.87%)/ Romney 71,420 (67.10%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 35,410 (37.15%)/ McCain 58,631 (61.51%)
Swing: 10.87% Republican
Trend: 3.90% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+19.5/R+21

Senator: Glenn Grothman
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Glen Grothman 66,882 (68.6%)/ Tanya Lohr 30,504 (31.3%
Obama Comparison: +0.57%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: West Bend
Prior Offices: Wisconsin Sate Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (J.D.)
Birthday: 7/3/1955
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district went from being shaped more like a box to vertical rectangle. It gets a point and a half less Democratic, but it is still the most Republican district in the state. 

Assembly District 58
()
Counties: Washington
PVI: R+21
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 9,703 (30.42%)/ Romney 21,952 (68.82%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 11,302 (36.88%)/ McCain 18,968 (61.89%)
Swing: 13.39% Republican
Trend: 6.42% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+21/R+20

Representative: Patricia Strachota
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: West Bend, WI
Prior Offices: Washington County Board of Supervisors
Education: St. Mary’s College 
Birthday: 6/29/1955
Place of Birth: Cuyahoga County, OH
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district stays relatively the same other then becoming a more vertical district rather then the previous horizontal shape. Is a very Republican seat.

Assembly District 59
()
Counties: Calumet, Fond du Lac, Sheboygan and Washington
PVI: R+19
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,900 (33.13%)/ Romney 25,561 (65.65%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 11,622 (38.17%)/ McCain 18,337 (60.23%)
Swing: 10.46% Republican
Trend: 3.49% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+24/R+19.5ß

Representative: Daniel LeMahieu
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Uncontested 
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Cascade
Prior Offices: Sheboygan County Board
Education: N/A
Birthday: 11/5/1946
Place of Birth: Sheboygan, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district takes a more vertical shape as it goes through the county boundary line between Calumet/Fond du Lac and Sheboygan. No change in the partisan nature as it is a very safe Republican seat.

Assembly District 60
()
Counties: Ozaukee and Washington
PVI: R+20.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,316 (31.78%)/ Romney 23,907 (67.14%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,386 (36.51%)/ McCain 21,129 (62.28%)
Swing: 9.59% Republican
Trend: 2.62% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+19.5/R+18

Representative: Duey Strobel
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Duey Strobel 23,905 (71.1%)/ Perry Duman 9,682 (28.8%) 
Obama Comparison: +2.99%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Saukville
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin Madison (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (M.S.)
Birthday: 9/1/1959
Place of Birth: Cedarburg, WI
Profession: Real Estate
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district becomes more compact and it moves out of Village of Grafton. Actually gets more Republican, if that was possible. 


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 14, 2013, 06:37:25 AM
Senate District 21
()
Counties: Kenosha and Racine
Three Largest Entities: Caledonia, Mount Pleasant and Pleasant Prairie     
PVI: R+9
Incumbent Party: D/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,116 (44.06%)/ Romney 51,248 (54.92%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 43,987 (47.45%)/ McCain 47,460 (51.20%)
Swing: 7.11% Republican
Trend: 0.14% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+9/R+1.5

Senator: John Lehman
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: John Lehman 36,351 (50.5%)/ Van Wanggaard (49.4%) (2012-Recall) 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 2012 (Also prior from 2007-2010)
Hometown: Racine
Prior Offices: Racine City Council and Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: Luther College (Bachelors)/ Carthage College (M.A.)
Birthday: 8/2/1945
Place of Birth: Rhinelander, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district radically changed with redistrict. The former district was previously centered in Racine County and was a great competitive district. Now the district takes in all of the rural and most of the suburban areas of Kenosha and Racine Counties. This has made the district unwinnable for the Democrats. Senator John Lehman, who narrowly won a recall race in 2012, would not be competitive in this district. Some brilliant gerrymandering here!

Assembly District 61
()
Counties: Kenosha
PVI: R+8
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,611 (44.33%)/ Romney 16,727 (54.48%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,215 (47.45%)/ McCain 47,460 (51.20%)
Swing: 8.47% Republican
Trend: 1.50% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+13/D+9

Representative: Samantha Kerkman
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Samantha Kerkman 16,589 (55.7%)/ John Steinbrink 13,186 (44.3%)
Obama Comparison: +0.08%
Serving Since: 2001
Hometown: Powers Lake
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Birthday: 3/6/1974
Place of Birth: Burlington, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district is a mix of Assembly district 65 and 66. As the rural and suburban Kenosha County district, it is a very safe Republican district. It was an incumbent on incumbent race as John Steinbrink decided to go down fighting.

Assembly District 62
()
Counties: Racine 
PVI: R+7.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,593 (45.67%)/ Romney 18,228 (53.39%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,210 (48.09%)/ McCain 17,066 (50.63%
Swing: 5.18% Republican
Trend: 1.79% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+8/D+4

Representative: Thomas Weatherston
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Thomas Weatherston 17,045 (53.1%)/ Melissa Lemke 15,054 (46.9%)
Obama Comparison: -1.18%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Racine
Prior Offices: Caledonia Village Council
Education: State University of New York at Buffalo
Birthday: 2/15/1950
Place of Birth: Buffalo, NY
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is the northern Racine County rural and suburban district. It does also include some northwestern parts of the city of Racine. Even though there are some strong Democratic areas in the eastern part of the district, this is also a safe Republican seat.

Assembly District 63
()
Counties: Kenosha
PVI: R+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,912 (41.84%)/ Romney 16,293 (57.23%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,562 (45.81%)/ McCain 15,685 (52.98%)
Swing: 8.22% Republican
Trend: 1.25% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+14/D+10.5

Representative: Robin Vos
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Robin Vos 17,704 (58.3%)/ Kelley Albrecht 12,637 (41.6%)
Obama Comparison: +0.22%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Burlington
Prior Offices: Racine County Board
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Birthday: 8/5/1968
Place of Birth: Burlington, WI
Profession: Owner of Several Small Businesses
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district is the southern Racine rural and suburban district. Again there are some areas of Democratic strength in the eastern part of the district, but this is a very strong Republican district. Robin Vos is the Speaker of the Assembly.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 17, 2013, 08:47:04 PM
Senate District 22
()
Counties: Kenosha and Racine
Three Largest Entities: Kenosha, Racine and Somers
PVI: D+12
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 51,841 (66.54%)/ Romney 25,147 (32.28%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 52,078 (66.72%)/ McCain 24,718 (31.67%)
Swing: 0.79% Republican
Trend: 6.18% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+11/D+0

Representative: Robert Wirch
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Robert Wirch 51,177 (69.6%)/ Pam Stevens 22,278 (30.3%)
Obama Comparison: -3.03%
Serving Since: 1997
Hometown: Pleasant Prairie 
Prior Offices: Kenosha County Supervisor and Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Parkside
Birthday: 11/16/1943
Place of Birth: Kenosha, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the opposite of the previous district as is this is the Kenosha and Racine urban district. This is a very safe Democratic district. This gerrymander move resulted in transforming 1 Likely & 1 Lean Democratic Senate Seats into a Safe Democratic and Safe Democratic Seat. Also on the Assembly level it went from 4 Democratic Seats and 2 Republican Seats to 3 Democratic Seats and 3 Republican Seats. Senator Robert Wirch would have to move into Kenosha proper if he wants to run for reelection in 2014.

Assembly District 64
()
Counties: Kenosha and Racine
PVI: D+5.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,827 (58.81%)/ Romney 11,453 (40.03%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,819 (61.29%)/ McCain 10,161 (37.03%)
Swing: 5.48% Republican
Trend: 1.49% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+5/D+11.5

Representative: Peter Barca
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2009 (Also prior from 1984-1992)
Hometown: Kenosha
Prior Offices: United States Congress
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (M.A.)
Birthday: 8/7/1955
Place of Birth: Kenosha, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the Northwestern Kenosha and Racine connection district. This is a pretty safe Democratic seat. Representative Peter Barca is the Minority Leader in the Assembly.

Assembly District 65
()
Counties: Kenosha
PVI: D+12.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,654 (66.92%)/ Romney 7,892 (31.71%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,462 (66.89%)/ McCain 8,169 (31.29%)
Swing: 0.39% Republican
Trend: 6.58% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+11/D+1.5

Representative: Tom Ohnstad
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Kenosha
Prior Offices: City of Kenosha Alderman
Education: University of Wisconsin-Parkside
Birthday: 5/21/1952
Place of Birth: Eau Claire, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the primary Kenosha district. This is a very safe Democratic seat.

Assembly District 66
()
Counties: Kenosha
PVI: 19.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,360 (75.21%)/ Romney 5,802 (23.77%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,797 (72.60%)/ McCain 6,388 (26.06%)
Swing: 4.90% Democratic
Trend: 11.87% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old):

Representative: Cory Mason
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Racine
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 1/25/1973
Place of Birth: Racine, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the primary Racine district. This is a very safe Democratic district.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 12:25:41 AM
Senate District 23
()
Counties: Barron, Chippewa, Clark, Dunn, Eau Claire, Jackson, Marathon, Trempealeau and Wood
Three Largest Entities: Marshfield, Chippewa Falls and Altoona   
PVI: R+4
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 39,587 (47.62%)/ Romney 42,399 (51.00%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 44,478 (53.81%)/ McCain 36,674 (44.37%)
Swing: 12.82% Republican
Trend: 4.85% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4/R+4.5

Senator: Terry Moulton
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Terry Moulton 39,864 (56.6%)/ Kristen Dexter 30,504 (43.3%) (2012-Recall) 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Eleaction
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Chippewa Falls
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Birthday: 8/191946
Place of Birth: Whitefish, MT
Profession: Owner of Archery and Tackle Shop and Fishing Tackle Manufacturer
Religion: N/A

Notes: The main change of this district was it totally pulled out of the city of Eau Claire and it went farther into eastern Eau Claire County. This resulted in this district becoming a point and a half more Republican. The trends in this area of the state are not good for the Democrats and it would probably take a wave for them to take it back. 

Assembly District 67
()
Counties: Barron, Chippewa and Dunn
PVI: R+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,876 (48.12%)/ Romney 14,588 (50.59%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,170 (52.70%)/ McCain 13,098 (45.50%)
Swing: 9.67% Republican
Trend: 2.70% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4.5/R+4.5

Representative: Thomas Larson
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Thomas Larson 15,194 (53.%)/ Deb Bieging 13,325 (46.7%) 
Obama Comparison: +1.43%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Colfax
Prior Offices: N/A
Education: N/A
Birthday: 2/11/1948
Place of Birth: Eau Claire, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district only visually changed, as it had to shrink by moving out of Barron County. This district could probably go Democrat in a good year and a good candidate. It is a district they would need in order to win the Assembly back

Assembly District 68
()
Counties: Chippewa, Clark, Eau Claire, Jackson and Trempealeau   
PVI: R+1
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,195 (50.99%)/ Romney 13,260 (47.63%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,033 (55.67%)/ McCain 11,526 (42.69%)
Swing: 9.62% Republican
Trend: 2.65% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+1.5/D+3

Representative: Kathleen Bernier
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Kathleen Bernier 13,758 (52.4%)/ Judy Smriga 12,482 (47.5%)
Obama Comparison: +3.46%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Chippewa Falls
Prior Offices: Village of Lake Hallie Trustee
Education: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Birthday: 4/29/1956
Place of Birth: Eau Claire, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is another district that the Democrats would need to win in order to get closer in the Assembly. By moving out of the City of Eau Claire and into Clark County the district did get much more Republican, but Obama still won the district 2012. This district is very similar to the 67th. 

Assembly District 69
()
Counties: Clark, Marathon and Wood
PVI: R+6
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,516 (43.53%)/ Romney 14,551 (55.00%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,504 (53.08%)/ McCain 12,274 (44.92%)
Swing: 19.63% Republican
Trend: 12.66% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+6

Representative: Scott Suder
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Scott Suder 15,785 (61.2%)/ Paul Knoff 9,998 (38.7%)
Obama Comparison: +4.79%
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Abbotsford
Prior Offices: Abbotsford City Council 
Education: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire
Birthday: 9/28/1968
Place of Birth: Medford, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is more Republican then it’s rating. Obama over performed here in 2008. Also Scott Suder is very popular, he did almost 5 points better then Romney and he is the Majority Leader in the Assembly.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 12:40:30 AM
Senate District 24
()
Counties: Adams, Jackson, Monroe, Portage, Waushara and Wood
Three Largest Entities: Stevens Point, Wisconsin Rapids and Sparta   
PVI: D+3
Incumbent Party: D/DDR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 46,654 (51.61%)/ Romney 42,299 (46,79%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 52,254 (58.00%)/ McCain 36,121 (40.09%)
Swing: 13.09% Republican
Trend: 6.12% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+1/D+2

Senator: Julie Lassa 
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Julie Lass 48,677 (56.6%)/ Scott Kenneth Noble 37,259 (43.3%)
Obama Comparison: -4.98%
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Stevens Point
Prior Offices: Dewey Town Board and Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Birthday: 10/21/1970
Place of Birth: Stevens Point, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district saw big changes as it lost the Marshfield area of Wood County and all of Southern Adams County. It its place it gained Sparta and Tomah in Monroe County, parts of Eastern Jackson County and more of Western Waushara. This entire process resulted in the district becoming a point less Democratic. This district should be safe with Lassa as the incumbent, but could be competitive in the future.

Assembly District 70
()
Counties: Jackson, Monroe, Portage and Wood 
PVI: R+3
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,683 (48.43%)/ Romney 14,116 (49.96%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,068 (54.77%)/ McCain 11,957 (43.47%)
Swing: 12.83% Republican
Trend: 5.86% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3/R+0.5

Representative: Amy Sue Vruwink
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Amy Sue Vruwink 13,518 (50.2%)/ Nancy VanderMeer 13,374 (49.7%)
Obama Comparison: -1.76%
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Milladore
Prior Offices: None
Education: Marian University 
Birthday: 5/22/1975
Place of Birth: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: Representative Vruwink got screwed in redistricting and yet survived in 2012. I unfortunately don’t see that happening in 2014 with what will probably be depressed turnout. Her old district would have still been difficult, but it would have had areas, like Marshfield, that she was familiar with and the voters there would have been familiar with her. Maybe she’ll be able to put down some roots with the new people in her district, especially in Northern Monroe County, but I would doubt it. 

Assembly District 71
()
Counties: Portage
PVI: D+6.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,451 (57.37%)/ Romney 13,155 (40.91%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 22,229 (64.79%)/ McCain 11,395 (33.21%)
Swing: 15.21% Republican
Trend: 8.15% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+8/D+7

Representative: Katrina Shankland
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Katrina Shankland 17,619 (60.8%)/ Patrick Testin 11,279 (38.9%)
Obama Comparison: -3.45%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Stevens Point
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Birthday: 8/4/1987
Place of Birth: Wausau, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The trend for this district between 2008 and 2012 is pretty scary for the Democrats, but Obama still won this district by 17 points in the last election and it is one of few seats north of Madison that Walker lost in his recall race. It is still a very safe Democratic district. District pulled out of Waushara in order to give that to District 72.

Assembly District 72
()
Counties: Adams, Portage, Waushara and Wood
PVI: R+3
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,520 (48.41%)/ Romney 15,028 (50.11%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,957 (54.50%)/ McCain 12,769 (43.61%)
Swing: 12.59% Republican
Trend: 5.62% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+2.5/R+0.5

Representative: Scott Krug
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Scott Krug 14,138 (50.2%)/ Justin Pluess 14,029 (49.8%)
Obama Comparison: -1.36%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Nekoosa
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Green Bay
Birthday: 9/16/1975
Place of Birth: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Profession: Employment Training Specialist
Religion: N/A

Notes: By taking away the Southern Adams County and adding very Republican areas in Waushara County this district got 2 points more Republican through redistricting. This saved Representative Scott Krug as even one more half a point towards the Democrats would have lead to his defeat.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 12:50:56 AM
Senate District 25
()
Counties: Ashland, Barron, Bayfield, Burnett, Douglas, Dunn, Iron, Polk, Price, Sawyer, St. Croix and Vilas
Three Largest Entities: Superior, Rice Lake and Ashland
PVI: D+2.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 51,637 (55.48%)/ Romney 39,992 (42.97%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 55,409 (56.68%)/ McCain 37,517 (39.73%)
Swing: 6.44% Republican
Trend: 0.53% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+3.5/D+3.5

Senator: Robert Jauch
()
Party: Democratic
Last Election: Robert Jauch 31,437 (51.27%)/ Dane Deutsch 29,854 (48.69%)
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 1987
Hometown: Poplar
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: N/A
Birthday: 11/22/1945
Place of Birth: Wheaton, IL
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district takes all of Price County and in return loses most of Sawyer County. The partisan nature of the district doesn’t change and it will remain a safe Democratic seat throughout the decade. The problem for Democrats will be if there loss continual loss in population in this region of the state and this district has to go further into Republican areas.

Assembly District 73
()
Counties: Burnett, Douglas and Washburn
PVI: D+7
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,712 (60.84%)/ Romney 11,566 (37.61%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 20,103 (62.48%)/ McCain 11,537 (35.86%)
Swing: 3.39% Republican
Trend: 3.58% Democratic 
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+7/D+7.5

Representative: Nick Milroy
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: South Range
Prior Offices: Superior City Council
Education: University of Wisconsin-Superior
Birthday: 4/15/1974
Place of Birth: Duluth, MN
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The only changes to this district were some changes in what townships were included. It is a very safe Democratic seat.

Assembly District 74
()
Counties: Ashland, Bayfield, Douglas, Iron, Price, Sawyer and Vilas 
PVI: D+4.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 19,077 (57.63%)/ Romney 13,505 (40.80%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 19,681 (60.54%)/ McCain 12,300 (37.84%)
Swing: 5.87% Republican
Trend: 1.10% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+6/D+4.5

Representative: Janet Bewley
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Janet Bewley 18,582 (59%)/ John Sendra 12,911 (41%)
Obama Comparison: -1.34%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Ashland
Prior Offices: Ashland City Council
Education: Case Western Reserve (Bachelors)/ University of Maine (M.A.)
Birthday: 11/10/1951
Place of Birth: Plainesville, OH
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: By dropping most of Sawyer County and adding Price County this district became even safer for the Democrats. It also moved into the Lac du Flambea, a safe Democratic Native American Reservation. 

Assembly District 75
()
Counties: Barron, Burnett, Dunn, Polk, St. Croix and Washburn
PVI: R+4.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,848 (47.41%)/ Romney 14,921 (51.08%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,445 (52.24%)/ McCain 13,680 (46.27%)
Swing: 9.64% Republican
Trend: 2.67% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3.5/R+3

Representative: Stephen Smith
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Stephen Smith 14,456 (51%)/ Roger Rivard 13,841 (48.8%)   
Obama Comparison: -3.61%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Shell Lake
Prior Offices: Barron County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Superior 
Birthday: 8/31/1951
Place of Birth: Minneapolis, MN
Profession: Home Center Owner
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: Stephen Smith defeated Roger “Some Girls Just Rape Easy” Rivard in 2012, but not by as big of a margin as he should have. This is the most likely seat to flip to the other party in 2014 as I don’t see Representative Smith being able to hold a trending Republican seat that is already R+3.5.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 01:07:22 AM
Senate District 26
()
Counties: Dane    
Three Largest Entities: Madison and Shorewood Hills
PVI: D+25
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 89,760 (78.56%)/ Romney 22,184 (19.42)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 87,600 (80.67%)/ McCain 19,203 (17.68%)
Swing: 3.85% Republican
Trend: 3.12% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+28.5/D+29

Senator: Fred Risser
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1963
Hometown: Madison
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: University of Oregon (Bachelors)/ University of Oregon (LL.B.)
Birthday: 5/5/1927
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: Attorney
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is a Madison centric district taking all of the Westside and the Downtown Isthmus areas. It is the safest Democratic district outside of Milwaukee and is the home of Senator Fred Risser who is the longest serving member in the history of the Wisconsin Legislature and currently longest serving legislature in the United States.

Assembly District 76
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+27.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 33,815 (81.44%)/ Romney 6,504 (15.66%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 34,256 (84.32%)/ McCain 5,499 (13.54%)
Swing: 5.00% Republican
Trend: 1.97% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+32.5/D+26

Representative: Chris Taylor
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since:  2011
Hometown: Madison
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Pennsylvania (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison(J.D.) 
Birthday: 1/13/1968
Place of Birth: Los Angeles, CA
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: The numbers for the Madison Assembly districts got all rearranged, making things very confusing. This is really the area of the old 78th District ad both made up the Isthmus, parts of the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus and the near Eastside. This district shrunk rapidly in redistrict, as it had to shred a good amount of population in Northeast and Southern parts of Madison. Representative Chris Taylor used to represent the 47th district, but here home was moved in here. This was current Congressman Mark Pocan’s district and is an extremely safe Democratic seat.

Assembly District 77
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+28
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 29,537 (82.10%)/ 5,819 (16.17%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 28,970 (82.70%)/ 5,531 (15.79%)
Swing: 0.98% Republican
Trend: 5.99% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+31/D+26.5

Representative: Terese Berceau
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Madison
Prior Offices: Dane County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Madison (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (M.A.) 
Birthday: 8/23/1973
Place of Birth: Green Bay, WI
Profession: Staff for Robert M Lafollette School at University of Wisconsin-Madison, Real Estate and substitute teacher
Religion: N/A

Notes: What they did with the new 77th and 78th Assembly districts is they split the area vertically, instead of horizontally. The 77th becomes the near Westside district with most of Southside of Madison and the 78th becomes the far Westside district. This is an extremely safe Democratic seat.   

Assembly District 78
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+18.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 26,408 (71.83%)/ Romney 9,861 (26.82%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 24,249 (73,94%)/ McCain 8,154 (24.86%)
Swing: 4.07% Republican
Trend: 2.90% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+21/D+34

Representative: Brett Hulsey
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Brett Hulsey 22,853 (75.4%)/ Jonathan Debering 7,323  (Green) (24.2%) 
Obama Comparison: -3.61%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Madison
Prior Offices: Dane County Supervisor
Education: Middlebury College (Bachelors)/ University of Oklahoma (M.A.) 
Birthday: 5/28/1959
Place of Birth: Oklahoma City, OK
Profession: Founder-Owner of a Energy and Environmental Consulting Firm
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the far Westside of Madison district and it did take in a little bit of the old 79th District that went into Madison. There are some rumors right now that Representative Brett Hulsey may leave the Democrats and become an Independent. While this district is less Democratic then the other Madison districts, it would still be a death sentence for the Representative if he made that move.   


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Nhoj on June 24, 2013, 03:13:42 AM
You finally got my area! Anyways i seem to recall jauch having a opponent in 2010 so i think that's wrong that he was unopposed. As for smith he will lose for being poorly spoken more than the districts lean  I wager.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
You finally got my area! Anyways i seem to recall jauch having a opponent in 2010 so i think that's wrong that he was unopposed. As for smith he will lose for being poorly spoken more than the districts lean  I wager.

I don't know how I missed that he had an opponent.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 02:09:14 PM
Senate District 27
()
Counties: Columbia, Dane, Green, Iowa and Sauk
Three Largest Entities: Middleton, Waunakee and Baraboo   
PVI: D+8.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 63,466 (62.07%)/ Romney 37,823 (36.99%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 61,049 (64.26%)/ McCain 32,847 (34.58%)
Swing: 4.60% Republican
Trend: 2.37% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+9.5/D=12.5

Senator: Jon Erpenbach
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Jon Erpenbach 51,742 (61.84%)/ Kurt Schlicht 31,909 (38.13%) (2010 – Old Lines) 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Middleton
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 1/28/1961
Place of Birth: Middleton, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district changed in a big way by moving to the north intro Western Columbia County and Eastern Sauk County from Green County. This was done in order to get Representative Fred Clark out of the 14th Senate District. As a result the district moved 3 points towards the Republicans, but it still has enough Westside Madison suburbs to make it a very safe Democratic seat.

Assembly District 79
()
Counties: Dane
PVI: D+7.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 22,538 (60.82%)/ Romney 14,174 (38.25%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 21,230 (63.67%)/ McCain 11,798 (35.38%
Swing: 5.72% Republican
Trend: 1.25% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+9.5/D+14

Representative: Dianne Hesselbein
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Middleton
Prior Offices: Dane County Board of Supervisors
Education: University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh (Bachelors)/ Edgewood College (M.A.)
Birthday: 3/10/1971
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district has gone from being a strip that went from the Western Madison suburbs to the western part of the county, to a district that hugs the City of Madison. It goes from the northeast township of Burke, all the way around to the western parts of the Town of Verona. The districts moves almost 5 points to the Republicans as it lost many solid Democratic areas, but it is still a very safe Democratic seat. 

Assembly District 80
()
Counties: Dane, Green and Iowa
PVI: D+11
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 22,359 (64.03%)/ Romney 12,268 (35.13%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 22,157 (66.89%)/ McCain 10,571 (31.91%)
Swing: 6.08% Republican
Trend: 0.89% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+12/D+8.5

Representative: Sondy Pope-Roberts
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Sondy Pope-Roberts 20,864 (63.9%)/ Tom Lamberson 11,771 (36%)
Obama Comparison: +0.18%
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Cross Plaines
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 4/27/1950
Place of Birth: Madison, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district gets 3.5 points more Democratic as it moves out of Southern Green County and into friendly Democratic areas like Southeastern Iowa County, Verona and Fitchburg. This is a safe Democratic seat.

Assembly District 81
()
Counties: Columbia, Dane, Iowa and Sauk
PVI: D+7
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 18,569 (61.34%)/ Romney 11,381 (37.59%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,896 (61.89%)/ McCain 10,627 (36.75%)
Swing: 1.39% Republican
Trend: 5.5*% Democratic 
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+6/D+14

Representative: Fred Clark
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Fred Clark 17,829 (61.8%)/ Scott Frostman 10,995 (38.1%)
Obama Comparison: -0.49%
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Sauk City
Prior Offices: 
Education:  Michigan State University (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (M.S.)
Birthday: 5/14/1954
Place of Birth: Ann Arbor, MI
Profession: Forester and Small Business Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is essential a majority of the old 42nd and parts of the 47th, 51st and the old 81st. The point was to put Fred Clark’s home turf out of the 14th Senate District so it would have been harder for him to hold that district had he won the 2011 recall race.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 02:23:42 PM
Senate District 28
()
Counties: Milwaukee, Racine, Walworth and Waukesha
Three Largest Entities: Franklin, Muskego and Greenfield   
PVI: R+14.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 39,881 (38.48%)/ Romney 62,638 (60.44%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 41,54 (41.54%)/ McCain 57,077 (57.27%)
Swing: 6.23% Republican
Trend: 0.71% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+14/R+16.5

Senator: Mary Lazich
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mary Lazich 60,854 (63.4%)/ Jim Ward 35,053 (36.5%)
Obama Comparison: +1.97%
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: New Berlin
Prior Offices: New Berlin City Council, Waukesha County Board and Wisconsin State Senate
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 
Birthday: 10/3/1952
Place of Birth: Loyal, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes:  This Southwest Milwaukee suburbs district shrank in size due to redistricting. It moved out of the Northern half of New Berlin and out of Mukwonago. It got a couple points less Republican, but is still very safe for the GOP.

Assembly District 82
()
Counties: Milwaukee
PVI: R+10.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,210 (42.72%)/ Romney 18,600 (55.92%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,735 (45.51%)/ McCain 17245 (53.26%)
Swing: 5.45% Republican
Trend: 1.49% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+10/R+11.5

Representative: Jeff Stone
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Jeff Stone 18,032 (60.2%)/ Kathleen Wied-Vincent 11,896 (39.7%)
Obama Comparison: +3.03%
Serving Since: 1999
Hometown: Greendale
Prior Offices: Greenfield City Council
Education: Washburn University
Birthday: 1/28/1961
Place of Birth: Topeka, KS
Profession: Printing Busniess Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district stayed pretty much the same in redistricting. This is the most Republican district in Milwaukee County.

Assembly District 83
()
Counties: Milwaukee, Racine, Walworth and Waukesha 
PVI: R+21.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,304 (31.09%)/ Romney 24,734 (68.02%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,336 (35.42%)/ McCain 22,126 (63.53%)
Swing: 8.82% Republican
Trend: 1.88% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+20/R+21

Representative: David Craig
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: David Craig 23,034 (69.7%)/ James Brownlow 9,967 (30.2%)
Obama Comparison: +0.91%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Big Bend
Prior Offices: Village of Big Bend Trustee
Education: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Birthday: 3/16/1979
Place of Birth: 3/16/1979
Profession: Real Estate Agent
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district also stayed pretty much the same with the differences being the loss of Mukwonago and the addition of Hales Corners. This is a very safe Republican district.

Assembly District 84
()
Counties: Milwaukee and Waukesha
PVI: R+11.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,367 (42.23%)/ Romney 19,304 (56.75%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,317 (44.17%)/ McCain 17,678 (54.54%)
Swing: 1.94% Republican
Trend: 5.00% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+11/R+16.5

Representative: Mike Kuglitsch
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mike Kuglitsch 18,379 (62.7%)/ Jesse Roelke 10,882 (37.1%)
Obama Comparison: +5.12%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: New Berlin
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Birthday: 2/3/1960
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Business Consultant
Religion: N/A

Notes: It is rather unfortunate that they had to split up the City of New Berlin, as the old 84th was a really clean district with all the municipalities intact. Regardless, this is a very safe Republican district.


Title: Re: Gass3268's Wisconsin Thread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 24, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
Senate District 29
()
Counties: Clark, Marathon, Rusk, Sawyer, Taylor and Wood
Three Largest Entities:
PVI: Wausau, Weston and Rothschild     
Incumbent Party: R/DRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 41,526 (46.81%)/ Romney 46,095 (51.96%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 46,750 (53.31%)/ McCain 39,342 (44.86%)
Swing: 13.60% Republican
Trend: 6.66% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4/R+3.5

Senator: Jerry Petrowski
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Jerry Petrowski 44,107 (61.3%)/ Donna Seidel 27,744 (38.6%) (2012 Recall/Special Election)
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 2012
Hometown: Marathon
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Senate
Education: N/A
Birthday: 6/16/1950
Place of Birth: Wausau, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: I have never been a fan of this district, whether it is in this new Republican drawn map or the court drawn map for the last decade. It is the least compact district in either map and it takes the Wausau metro area and then goes into completely dissimilar areas in the Northwest Part of the state. The changes in the district made it a half a point, which will make it even harder for Democrats to get the district back after losing it in 2010. 

Assembly District 85
()
Counties: Marathon
PVI: D+0
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,023 (52.11)/ Romney 13,513 (46.84%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,309 (57.32%)/ McCain 11,625 (40.85%)
Swing: 11.20% Republican
Trend: 4.26% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+0.5/R+0

Representative: Mandy Wright 
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Mandy Wright 13,930 (49.7%)/ Patrick Snyder 13,025 (46.5%)
Obama Comparison: +2.41%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Wausau
Prior Offices: None
Education: St. Olaf
Birthday: 6/7/1977
Place of Birth: Wausau, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district actually got a half of point more Democratic through redistricting and it looks like that actually saved the Democrats in 2012. This area of the state is really trending away fast from Democrats and it wouldn’t shock me if Representative Wright loses in 2014.

Assembly District 86
()
Counties: Marathon and Wood
PVI: R+7
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,077 (43.85%)/ 17,617 (54.89%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,691 (51.09%)/ 14,488 (47.17%0
Swing: 14.96% Republican
Trend: 8.02% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+6.5/R+5.5

Representative: John Spiros
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: John Spiros 17,175 (55.6%)/ Dennis Halkoski 13,664 (44.2%) 
Obama Comparison: -0.39%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Marshfield
Prior Offices: Marshfield City Council
Education: MTCC (A.A.S.)
Birthday: 8/28/1961
Place of Birth: Akron, OH
Profession: Vice President for Safety and Claims Management for a Transport Company
Religion: N/A

Notes: Representative Spiros ran and lost against Amy Sue Vruwink in the 2010 elections. This trend of this district is awful for the Democrats and I see no way how they could get this district back.

Assembly District 87
()
Counties: Clark, Marathon, Rusk, Sawyer and Taylor
PVI: R+6.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,417 (44.71%)/ 14,963 (53.87%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,314 (51.63%)/ 12,875 (46.44%)
Swing: 14.35%
Trend: 7.41%
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+4.5

Representative: Mary Williams
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Mary Williams 15,680 (58.5%)/ Elizabeth Riley 11,100 (41.4%)
Obama Comparison: +3.28%
Serving Since: 2003
Hometown: Medford
Prior Offices: Taylor County Board
Education: University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Birthday: 7/8/1949
Place of Birth: Phillips, WI
Profession: Restaurant Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: Like all the Assembly Districts in the 29th, the recent trends have been awful for the Democrats. This district switched out Price County for most of Sawyer County This is a very safe Republican seat. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 15, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
Senate District 30
()
Counties: Brown, Marinette and Oconto
Three Largest Entities: Green Bay, Bellevue and Marinette     
PVI: R+0.5
Incumbent Party: D/RRD
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 42,461 (51.63%)/ Romney 38,733 (47.10%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 45,200 (56.58%)/ McCain 33,654 (42.13%)
Swing: 9.92% Republican
Trend: 2.95% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+1/R+1

Senator: Dave Hansen
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Dave Hansen 42,949 (54.2%)/ John Macco 36,178 (45.7%)
Obama Comparison: -2.60%
Serving Since: 2001
Hometown: Green Bay
Prior Offices: Brown County Board
Education: University of Wisconsin-Green Bay
Birthday: 12/18/1947
Place of Birth: Green Bay, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district did not change much, just a few switches in the townships that make up the district. As long as Dave Hansen is here this district will be safe for the Democrats, but once he retires it could be competitive.

Assembly District 88
()
Counties: Brown
PVI: R+3.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,960 (48.71%)/ Romney 15,436 (50.26%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 15,633 (53.76%)/ McCain 13,147 (45.21%)
Swing: 10.10% Republican
Trend: 3.13% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3.5/R+4.5

Representative: John Klenke
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: John Klenke 14,445 (52.4%)/ Ward Bacon 13,085 (47.5%)
Obama Comparison: +1.24%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Green Bay
Prior Offices: None
Education: Bachelors and M.A. (No School Listed)
Birthday: 4/25/1958
Place of Birth: Green Bay, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: Too much rural and suburban areas in this district for the Democrats. Could go to the Democrats in a good year, but they would have to preform well in Green Bay and De Pere. 

Assembly District 89
()
Counties: Brown, Marinette and Oconto
PVI: R+5.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 13,484 (45.96%)/ Romney 15,520 (52.90%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,673 (52.14%)/ McCain 13,098 (46.55%)
Swing: 12.53% Republican
Trend: 5.56% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+5.5/R+5.5

Representative: John Nygren
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: John Nygren 16,081 (59.1%)/ Joe Reinhard 11,129 (40.9%)
Obama Comparison: +5.09%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Marinette
Prior Offices: None
Education: N/A
Birthday: 2/27/1964
Place of Birth: Marinette, WI
Profession: Insurance and Financial Representative
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district takes all of the Eastern Green Bay shoreline.  There is too much of the Green Bay suburbs in the southern part of this district for it to be competitive.

Assembly District 90
()
Counties: Brown
PVI: D+10
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,017 (63.19%)/ 7,777 (35.06%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 14,894 (65.70%)/ 7,409 (32.68%)
Swing: 4.89% Republican
Trend: 2.08% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+8.5/R+0.5

Representative: Eric Genrich
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Eric Genrich 11,353 (60.2%)/ David Vanderleest 7,432 (39.4%) 
Obama Comparison: 2.98%
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Green Bay
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin –Madison (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee (MLIS)
Birthday: 10/8/1979
Place of Birth: Green Bay, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is a Green Bay Democratic vote sink. Democrats even won this district by double digits in 2010.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 15, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
Senate District 31
()
Counties: Buffalo, Chippewa, Dunn, Eau Claire, Jackson, Pepin, Pierce, Trempealeau and St. Croix
Three Largest Entities: Eau Claire, Prescott and Black River Falls   
PVI: D+2
Incumbent Party: D/DDR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 49,805 (54.38%)/ Romney 40,408 (44.12%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 53,386 (58.85%)/ McCain 35,786 (39.45%)
Swing: 11.00% Republican
Trend: 4.06% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+2.5/D+0.5

Senator: Kathleen Vinehout
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Kathleen Vinehout 30,314 (50.27%)/ Ed Thompson 29,9911 (49.61%)
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Alma
Prior Offices: None
Education: Southern Illinois University (Bachelors)/ St. Louis University (M.P.H.)/ St. Louis University (Ph.D.)
Birthday: 6/16/1958
Place of Birth: Albany, NY
Profession: Organic Farmer
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district got 2 points more Democrat as it lost all of Monroe County and added all of the City of Eau Claire. This should be a solid Democratic seat moving forward. 

Assembly District 91
()
Counties: Chippewa and Eau Claire
PVI:D+8
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 19,110 (60.47%)/ Romney 11,877 (37.59%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 20,322 (64.25%)/ McCain 10,745 (33.97%
Swing: 7.40% Republican
Trend: 0.46% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+8.5/D+1

Representative: Dana Wachs
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Eau Claire
Prior Offices: Eau Claire City Council
Education: Marquette University (Bachelors)/ Valparaiso University (J.D.)   
Birthday: 8/25/1957
Place of Birth: Eau Claire, WI
Profession: Attorney
Religion: N/A

Notes: One positive change in this set of maps is Eau Claire has been unified into one assembly district. While that makes this more of a Democratic vote sink, it makes more sense when thinking of community of interests.

Assembly District 92
()
Counties: Buffalo, Jackson and Trempealeau
PVI: D+3.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 15,056 (55.80%)/ Romney 11,579 (42.91%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,349 (60.68%)/ McCain 10,187 (37.81%)
Swing: 9.98% Republican
Trend: 3.04% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+2.5/R+3

Representative: Chis Danou
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2009
Hometown: Trempealeau
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin – Madison (Bachelors)/ American University (M.A.)/ University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point (M.S.)
Birthday: 1967
Place of Birth: Bloomington, IL
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is a central Driftless Area district and is pretty safe for the Democrats. Also Chris Danou is very popular in this area and would have outrun Obama here if he had a Republican challenger.

Assembly District 93
()
Counties: Buffalo, Dunn, Pepin, Pierce and St. Croix 
PVI: R+4
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,906 (47.02%)/ 16,391 (51.70%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,715 (52.01%)/ 14,854 (46.22%0
Swing: 10.47% Republican
Trend: 3.53% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+4/D+4

Representative: Warren Petryk
()
Party: Republican
Last Election: Warren Petryk 15,612 (50.8%)/ Jeff Smith 15,114 (49.2%) 
Obama Comparison: -2.14%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Eleva
Prior Offices: None
Education: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire 
Birthday: 1/24/1955
Place of Birth: Eau Claire, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is a frustrating district for the Democrats. The Eastern part of this district has some friendly areas, but the Western part in Pierce County is trending pretty hard to the Republicans, as it becomes more of a Twin Cities suburban area.  It is hard to see the Democrats winning in this district in the future.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 15, 2013, 09:52:52 PM
Senate District 32
()
Counties: Crawford, La Crosse, Monroe and Vernon 
Three Largest Entities: La Crosse, Onalaska and Holmen   
PVI: D+4.5
Incumbent Party: D/DDR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 51,687 (57.12%)/ Romney 37,339 (41.26%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 54,503 (60.51%)/ McCain 34,123 (37.88%)
Swing: 6.77% Republican
Trend: 0.20% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+3.5/D+3.5

Senator: Jennifer Shilling
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Jennifer Shilling 
Obama Comparison: -1.16%
Serving Since: 2011 
Hometown: La Crosse
Prior Offices: La Crosse County Board and Wisconsin State Senate
Education: University of Wisconsin-La Crosse
Birthday: 7/4/1969
Place of Birth: Oshkosh, WI
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: No major changes to this district as it keeps the same general shape. Now that a Democrat finally won this seat, I don’t see how a Republican would ever win it back outside of a wave year.

Assembly District 94
()
Counties: La Crosse
PVI: R+1.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 16,430 (51.45%)/ 15,086 (47.24%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 17,488 (54.84%)/ 13,973 (43.81%)
Swing: 6.82% Republican
Trend: 0.15% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+3/R+2

Representative: Steve Doyle
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Steve Doyle 18,566 (60.6%)/ Bruce Evers 12,068 (39.4%)
Obama Comparison: -9.14%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Onalaska
Prior Offices: La Crosse County Board
Education: University of Wisconsin-La Crosse (Bachelors)/ University of Wisconsin-Madison (J.D.)
Birthday: 5/21/1958
Place of Birth: La Crosse, WI
Profession: Attorney
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district is all of La Crosse County, minus the actual City of La Crosse. Normally this would be a swing seat, but Steve Doyle is very popular here and I could only see him losing in a wave.     

Assembly District 95
()
Counties: La Crosse
PVI: D+11
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 20,263 (64.27%)/ Romney 10,665 (33.83%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 21,036 (67.15%)/ McCain 9,728 (31.05%)
Swing: 5.70% Republican
Trend: 1.27% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+11/D+11

Representative: Jill Billings
()
Party: Democrat
Last Election: Uncontested
Obama Comparison: Uncontested
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: La Crosse
Prior Offices: La Crosse County Board
Education: Augsburg College
Birthday: 1/19/1962
Place of Birth: Rochester, MN
Profession: N/A
Religion: N/A

Notes: This is the City of La Crosse and it’s a very safe Democratic seat. Senator Jennifer Shilling was a Representative here before becoming the Democratic challenger in the 2011 recall.

Assembly District 96
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Counties: Crawford, Monroe and Vernon
PVI: D+3
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 14,994 (55.47%)/ Romney 11,588 (42.87%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 16,079 (59.44%)/ McCain 10,503 (38.83%)
Swing: 8.01% Republican
Trend: 1.04% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): D+2.5/D+3.5

Representative: Lee Nerison
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Lee Nerison 15,344 (59.5%)/ Tom Johnson 10,426 (40.4%)
Obama Comparison: +15.03%
Serving Since: 2005
Hometown: Westby
Prior Offices: Vernon County Board
Education: N/A
Birthday: 7/31/1952
Place of Birth: La Crosse, WI
Profession: Farmer
Religion: Christian

Notes: This is a very frustrating district for the Democrats. The political nature of this district is very similar to the areas in the 17th Senate District. Great Democratic numbers on the national level, but very Republican on the local level. I only see the Democrats winning this district in a wave year or if Representative Nerison retires.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 15, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
Senate District 33
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Counties: Waukesha 
Three Largest Entities: Waukesha, Pewaukee and Sussex   
PVI: R+19.5
Incumbent Party: R/RRR
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 33,951 (33.06%)/ Romney 67,687 (65.92%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 37,527 (37.38%)/ McCain 61,850 (61.60%)
Swing: 8.64% Republican
Trend: 1.67% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+19/R+19

Senator: Paul Farrow
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Paul Farrow 22,665 (70.4%)/ Eric Prudent 9,503 (29.5%) (2012 Special Election) 
Obama Comparison: 2014 Election
Serving Since: 2012
Hometown: Pewaukee
Prior Offices: Wisconsin State Assembly
Education: Carroll College
Birthday: 7/17/1964
Place of Birth: Milwaukee, WI
Profession: Self-Employed
Religion: N/A

Notes: This district got much more compact as it pulled out of Washington County and took in a lot of parts that was previously in 11th Senate District. This is a very safe Republican Milwaukee suburban district, but its also pretty compact so that’s good.

Assembly District 97
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Counties Waukesha
PVI: R+13
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 12,577 (39.82%)/ Romney 18,582 (58.82%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 13,608 (43.16%)/ McCain 17,555 (55.68%)
Swing: 6.49% Republican
Trend: 0.48% Democratic
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+13.5/R+11

Representative: Bill Kramer
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Bill Kramer 18,399 (64.6%)/ Marga Krumins 10,051 (35.3%)   
Obama Comparison: +4.53%
Serving Since: 2007
Hometown: Waukesha
Prior Offices: Waukesha County Board
Education: University of Wisconsin-Whitewater (Bachelors)/ Duke University (J.D.)
Birthday: 1/21/1965
Place of Birth: Waukesha, WI
Profession: Financial Planner, Attorney and CPA 
Religion: Roman Catholic

Notes: This district takes the southern parts of the city of Waukesha and some rural parts to its southwest. This is a very Republican seat.   

Assembly District 98
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Counties: Waukesha
PVI: R+18.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 11,636 (33.65%)/ Romney 22,608 (65.38%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 12,163 (38.31%)/ McCain 19,272 (60.70%)
Swing: 9.34% Republican
Trend: 2.37% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+18.5/R+21

Representative: Adam Neylon
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Unopposed (Special Election)
Obama Comparison: Unopposed
Serving Since: 2013
Hometown: Pewaukee
Prior Offices: None
Education: Carroll University 
Birthday: 12/30/1984
Place of Birth: Elgin, IL
Profession: Small Busniess Owner
Religion: N/A

Notes: This seat takes up the northern parts of the city of Waukesha along with Pewaukee and Sussex. This is also a very Republican seat.

Assembly District 99
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Counties: Waukesha
PVI: R+25.5
2012 Presidential Election: Obama 9,738 (26.66%)/ 26,497 (72.55%)
2008 Presidential Election: Obama 11,756 (31.66%)/ 25,023 (67.39%)
Swing: 10.16% Republican
Trend: 3.19% Republican
Change in PVI (New/Old): R+24/R+23.5

Representative: Chris Kapenga
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Party: Republican
Last Election: Chris Kapenga 26,314 (76.3%)/ Thomas Hibbard 8,166 (23.7%)
Obama Comparison: +2.99%
Serving Since: 2011
Hometown: Delafield
Prior Offices: None
Education: Holland Christian and Calvin College
Birthday: 2/19/1972
Place of Birth: Zeeland, MI
Profession: Busniess Owner
Religion: Evangelical Christian 

Notes: This takes up the area directly west of the city of Waukesha. Takes in the areas that make up the Arrowhead and Kettle Moraine School Districts.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2013, 08:34:01 PM
Here is the State Legislature ranked from the most Democratic seat to the most Republican seat. All of the PVI numbers are based on the state average, which is 54.52% Democratic, rather then the national average. I would argue that it is definitely possible for the Democrats to take back the Senate, but it would require a great year and probably a few open seats.   

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
Outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin is very white. Also I'd guess that Senate District 3 will be plurality Hispanic by the end of the decade.
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2013, 08:51:41 PM
Here is the State Assembly ranked from the most Democratic seat to the most Republican seat. All of the PVI numbers are based on the state average, which is 54.52% Democratic, rather then the national average. The Assembly is almost impossible for the Dems to get back, baring a huge wave or some crazy unexpected trends.
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2013, 09:01:01 PM
Again this shows the whiteness of Wisconsin. 6 African American majority districts, 1 Hispanic majority district and 1 Hispanic plurality district, all in Milwaukee. District 66 could become only white plurality by the end of the decade as the district takes up most of Downtown Racine.   
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 22, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
Any questions?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on July 22, 2013, 03:34:30 PM
Here is the State Legislature ranked from the most Democratic seat to the most Republican seat. All of the PVI numbers are based on the state average, which is 54.52% Democratic, rather then the national average. I would argue that it is definitely possible for the Democrats to take back the Senate, but it would require a great year and probably a few open seats.   

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If we wanted to have the national average, we have to add 4.52 point of %?

Excellent job Gass


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 22, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Here is the State Legislature ranked from the most Democratic seat to the most Republican seat. All of the PVI numbers are based on the state average, which is 54.52% Democratic, rather then the national average. I would argue that it is definitely possible for the Democrats to take back the Senate, but it would require a great year and probably a few open seats.   

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If we wanted to have the national average, we have to add 4.52 point of %?

Excellent job Gass

You would subtract 2.58% to the Republican districts and add 2.58% to the Democratic districts.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on July 22, 2013, 07:33:56 PM
Thank you Gass! So the wisconsin senate can become a dem majority in a democratic year.

Has Scott Walker recovered?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 22, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Thank you Gass! So the wisconsin senate can become a dem majority in a democratic year.

Has Scott Walker recovered?

It is possible, but it would be difficult and we could only have majority at best by one seat. Walker has been recovered since the recalls. I don't think its impossible that he could lose, it is just extremely unlikely.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 23, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
Good news!

http://www.postcrescent.com/viewart/U0/20130723/APC010403/307230196/Bernard-Schaber-will-challenge-Ellis-state-Senate (http://www.postcrescent.com/viewart/U0/20130723/APC010403/307230196/Bernard-Schaber-will-challenge-Ellis-state-Senate)

This is the best candidate that the Democrats could put forward in Senate District 19. I would still say that Senator Ellis is the favorite, but this development could make it closer. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Pessimistic Antineutrino on July 28, 2013, 08:50:26 PM
From what I've been hearing Ron Johnson is one of the weakest 2010 'Pubs, even weaker than Mark Kirk. So how weak is he exactly, and how likely is it that he'll win reelection?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on August 29, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
From what I've been hearing Ron Johnson is one of the weakest 2010 'Pubs, even weaker than Mark Kirk. So how weak is he exactly, and how likely is it that he'll win reelection?

It will depend on who runs against him. If Feingold wants the seat back, I think Johnson would be in trouble. Also I think Ron Kind could be competitive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on August 29, 2013, 04:01:25 PM
It's looking like Madison School Board member Mary Burke is the favorite to become the Democratic nominee for governor. Her main claim to fame is that she is the heir to the Trek Bicycle Company which is located in Waterloo, WI. She would be able to self fund, which could be critical against Walker.   

http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=304068 (http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=304068)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on August 30, 2013, 09:06:06 AM
Defeating Walker would be hmmmm awesome :). He will probably be totally far to right if reelected in order to align himself with tea party...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Mr.Phips on August 30, 2013, 07:55:24 PM
Using a state average PVI is deceptive.  Wisconsin is about D+3 when compared to the national average, meaning that by using your system of state PVI's, an R+1 district is actually going to be Dem tilting when looking at the big picture.  I would suggest switching to using national averages, rather than Wisconsin statewide averages for your PVI's.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Miles on October 07, 2013, 10:56:17 AM
This isn't Congressional, but AG J.B Van Hollen isn't running. (http://fox6now.com/2013/10/07/attorney-general-j-b-van-hollen-will-not-seek-re-election/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 07, 2013, 11:54:54 AM
Mary Burke also formally announces that she'll be running for governor!

http://www.wqow.com/story/23624154/businesswoman-mary-burke-enters-governors-race (http://www.wqow.com/story/23624154/businesswoman-mary-burke-enters-governors-race)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Nhoj on October 09, 2013, 06:39:21 PM
My state senator is retiring, despite a poor performance by him in 2010 I don't think this is much of a GOP pickup opportunity. Did walker even win it?

http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/nw-wisconsin/Wis-Senator-Bob-Jauch-retiring-227075001.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 09, 2013, 08:24:52 PM
My state senator is retiring, despite a poor performance by him in 2010 I don't think this is much of a GOP pickup opportunity. Did walker even win it?

http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/nw-wisconsin/Wis-Senator-Bob-Jauch-retiring-227075001.html

I think Barrett won it both times. Ashland, Bayfield and Douglas are just too Dem for the other areas of the district to overcome.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 29, 2013, 12:10:15 PM
http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/democrat-wittwer-to-run-for-schultz-s-senate-seat/article_98151985-842f-53b6-81a2-f7613176e780.html (http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/democrat-wittwer-to-run-for-schultz-s-senate-seat/article_98151985-842f-53b6-81a2-f7613176e780.html)

Ernie Wittwer, a former budget director for the state Department of Transportation, has announced a run for the 17th State Senate district. This district is currently represented by a moderate Republican in Dale Shultz. Senator Shutlz is curently getting primaried from the right by Representative Howard Marklein of Assembly District 51, which is most Democratic Assembly seat with a Republican representative at D+9. Interesting note in the article is that Marklein has
raised $116,000 compared with just $684 for Schultz.

With the 17th Senate District at D+6 and the 51st Assembly Distirct at D+9 we are possibly looking at the perfect strom for the Democrats to pick up both if Marklein defeats Shultz in the piramary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 29, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
Also is there anyway to get this moved to the state election board. I feel like it would get more attention there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on October 29, 2013, 12:15:12 PM
And Scott Walker, would a scandal be possible?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 29, 2013, 12:49:18 PM
And Scott Walker, would a scandal be possible?

It would depend on how serious it gets for there to be much of an effect. Problem is that when anything fishy comes out about him, people assume its just politics and nothing substantial.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/marquette-university-law-school-to-release-new-poll-results-b99130541z1-229724451.html

Marquette (the Gold Standard in Wisconsin) shows a narrow Walker lead over Burke, 47-45.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 29, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/marquette-university-law-school-to-release-new-poll-results-b99130541z1-229724451.html

Marquette (the Gold Standard in Wisconsin) shows a narrow Walker lead over Burke, 47-45.

State Sen. Kathleen Vinehout is only down by 3% as well. The key for Burke will be for her to define herself and not the Walker campaign, as she is viewed favorable by 17% while 14% had an unfavorable view and 70% didn't have an opinion.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 29, 2013, 03:30:11 PM
From what I've been hearing Ron Johnson is one of the weakest 2010 'Pubs, even weaker than Mark Kirk. So how weak is he exactly, and how likely is it that he'll win reelection?

Are you sure about that? Surely Ron Johnson is too far right for Wisconsin and he will face very tough challenges, but weaker than Mark Kirk in very blue Illinois... I heavily doubt that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 08, 2013, 11:29:55 PM
I made a religion map for Wisconsin and I was thinking this thread might be the best place for it (even though it is a demographic map rather than an election one).

The color code is the same as the Ohio map I made ages ago, the brighter the shade, the more dominant the group
Blue = Mainline Protestant
Red = Evangelical Protestant
Green = Catholic
Black = Other

Determinations follow the ARDA Database standards, except that I counted Traditionally Black Churches as mainline (which is pretty much irrelevant in Wisconsin anyway).

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For the most part, this hints at the political divisions between eastern and western Wisconsin with the east having more green/red/brown and the west having more blue/teal/purple, and it seems the former mix of groups tends to be more conservative than the latter. To a large extent the red/blue split simply highlights the dominance of the ELCA (blue) and LCMS and WELS (red) in different parts of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on December 04, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
Looks like State Senator Kathleen Vinehout will run against Mary Burke for Wisconsin governor. Burke is not popular with many in the Labor side of the Democratic Party. Many on that side have been big supporters of Vinehout jumping out. Senator Vinehout represents Eau Claire and the area to the south along the Mississippi River.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/despite-long-odds-vinehout-sounding-as-if-shell-run-against-burke-b99152480z1-233949291.html (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/despite-long-odds-vinehout-sounding-as-if-shell-run-against-burke-b99152480z1-233949291.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 27, 2014, 11:14:18 AM
State Senator Dale Shultz (R-Richland Center) will not seek reelection in 2014. Shultz is the 3rd Wisconsin State Senator to leave the legislature along with Sen. Tim Cullen (D-Janesville) and Sen. Bob Jauch (D-Poplar). This is one of the few Senate seats in the state currently represented by a Republican that the Democrats having a fighting chance to take. Obama got 56.58% and Baldwin got 51.87% in 2012, yet all 3 Assembly Seats in the district remained Republican in 2012. I would probably lable this as a Toss-Up/Tilt R.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/republican-dale-schultz-wont-seek-re-election-in-senate-b99192350z1-242203711.html (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/republican-dale-schultz-wont-seek-re-election-in-senate-b99192350z1-242203711.html)

While I am excited with the potential of a Dem pick up here, Dale Shultz is the only Republican in the Wisconsin State Legislature that I respect. He pushed for real bipartisan solutions on everything from Act 10, the mining bill, redistricting reform, etc. Sort of a mix bag with him leaving.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on January 27, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
MLS has Walker up 47/41 on Burke from 47/45 in October. So more undecideds... bit weird IMO.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on January 27, 2014, 01:55:52 PM
MLS, what is it?
But not surprising though, Walker is leading at this time!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Miles on January 27, 2014, 02:02:42 PM
MLS, what is it?
But not surprising though, Walker is leading at this time!

Marquette Law School.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: free my dawg on January 27, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on January 27, 2014, 06:56:14 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)

That's going to be a hard one to hold. This is Southwestern Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 27, 2014, 08:45:13 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)

That's going to be a hard one to hold. This is Southwestern Wisconsin.

Then again Republicans were able to hold all 3 Assembly seats they won in 2010 in a Dem year in 2012. This will be a close race. If Walker keeps his current margin, the Republicans will hold this seat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on January 27, 2014, 11:31:22 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)

That's going to be a hard one to hold. This is Southwestern Wisconsin.


I agree, but I have no faith in the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: I Will Not Be Wrong on January 27, 2014, 11:35:29 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)

That's going to be a hard one to hold. This is Southwestern Wisconsin.


I agree, but I have no faith in the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.
But they won with Tammy Baldwin...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 27, 2014, 11:39:26 PM
Dale Schultz, the Senator in the D+4 seat, is retiring. (http://host.madison.com/news/local/state-sen-dale-schultz-to-retire/article_5d0beb3f-0db9-5e4f-8968-086f5f7eec60.html)

That's going to be a hard one to hold. This is Southwestern Wisconsin.


I agree, but I have no faith in the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.
But they won with Tammy Baldwin...

Tammy Baldwin won with Tammy Baldwin, DPW is awful.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on January 27, 2014, 11:51:48 PM
Southwestern Wisconsin is something of a strange animal. It votes reliably for Democrats on the national level, but can swing wildly in any direction downballot. I have the impression (could be wrong) that SW Wisconsin is the type of place where walking door to door and getting to know the voters makes a huge difference since they tend to vote for the person more than the party. It strikes me as a place where personal relationships are very important. Schultz's retirement is a huge hit for the GOP in the State Senate but with the right candidate (and I have no idea who that might be) we still have a reasonably good chance of keeping the seat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2014, 11:35:48 AM
Southwestern Wisconsin is something of a strange animal. It votes reliably for Democrats on the national level, but can swing wildly in any direction downballot. I have the impression (could be wrong) that SW Wisconsin is the type of place where walking door to door and getting to know the voters makes a huge difference since they tend to vote for the person more than the party. It strikes me as a place where personal relationships are very important. Schultz's retirement is a huge hit for the GOP in the State Senate but with the right candidate (and I have no idea who that might be) we still have a reasonably good chance of keeping the seat.

The region used to be a Republican stronghold in the state on all levels the 1990's when Democrats started starting winning here on the Federal level. In State elections Republicans can still win here. Just look at Walker's victories in 2010 and 2012. This is the region of the Obama-Walker-Walker-Obama voter. If Mary Burke is going to pull off the upset, she needs to win this region.

For the State Senate race, Representative Howard Marklein (R-Spring Green) who was running to the right of Shultz in a Republican primary will be the Republican nominee and former Budget Director for the Wisconsin DOT Ernie Wittwer. I think this will be a fun race to watch and it will be fun to map if it's close.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2014, 11:39:56 AM
To those interested in who's running for 17th Senate District:

Ernie Wittwer's Campaign Website (http://www.wittwerforsenate.com/)

Howard Marklein's Campaign Website (http://howardmarklein.com/)



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 07, 2014, 12:12:13 PM
Retiring State Senators Dale Shultz (R-Richland Center) and Tim Cullen (D-Janesville) released examples of what fair Wisconsin maps would look like. The two of them have been pushing hard for Wisconsin to copy how Iowa does redistricting. The maps where made by the non-partisan Legislative Reference Bureau. Republicans would have won control of both chambers in 2010, while Democrats would have won back in 2012. Unfortunately, this has no chance of going anywhere in the legislature.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/cullen/reform-redistricting/Pages/side-by-side.aspx


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Nhoj on February 07, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
A western based 7th would be great! on the other hand wtf is that 75th assembly district, splitting washburn in that way makes little sense.
But yeah its a shame it will never pass.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 07, 2014, 12:46:15 PM
A western based 7th would be great! on the other hand wtf is that 75th assembly district, splitting washburn in that way makes little sense.
But yeah its a shame it will never pass.

Yeah, I don't know why they did a east-west split rather than a north-south split in Washurn. That was one spot where I wasn't a fan of the maps. Also I think they set themselves for a lawsuit with those maps as they split up the Oneida Reservation in both the Senate and Assembly map, which is a no-no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on February 13, 2014, 06:06:19 PM
The former mayor of Rice lake Romaine Quinn is going to run here for 75th Assembly District, he was 19 when he was elected mayor in 2010. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Deus Naturae on February 16, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
Walker pushes income and property tax cuts. (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/scott-walker-wisconsin-tax-cuts-103551.html?hp=t1)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: henster on February 16, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
Walker pushes income and property tax cuts. (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/scott-walker-wisconsin-tax-cuts-103551.html?hp=t1)

Leaving a nice 700 million hole for his successor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on February 19, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/us/wisconin-political-investigation.html?ref=us
Time to pray, God, help Wisconsin!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on February 20, 2014, 01:58:43 AM
Well this is fun (http://gawker.com/scott-walker-s-former-chief-of-staff-sent-this-insanely-1526375431)

Quote
THE NIGHTMARE

In the nightmare I found myself nude in bed, and I was looking at a mirror on the ceiling, and I discovered that I am a Negro, and I’m circumcised!

Quickly I sat up, found my pants and looked in the pockets to find my driver’s license photo and it was that same color, black.

I felt myself being very depressed, downcast, sitting in a chair.

But it’s a wheelchair! That means, of course, besides being black and Jewish, I’m also disabled! I said to myself, aloud “This is impossible! It’s impossible that I should be black and Jewish and disabled!” “It's the pure and holy truth,” whispers someone from behind me. I turn around, and it’s my boyfriend.

Just what I needed!!! I am a homosexual, and on top of that, with a Mexican boyfriend.

Oh, my God .... Black, Jewish, disabled, gay with a Mexican boyfriend, drug addict, and HIV-positive!!!

Desperate, I begin to shout, cry, pull my hair, and Oh, nooooo...I’m bald!!!

The telephone rings. it’s my brother. He is saying, ‘Since mom and dad died, the only thing you do is hang out, take drugs, and laze around all day doing nothing. Get a job, you worthless piece of crap... Any job!’

Mom? Dad? Nooooo ... Now I’m also an unemployed orphan! I try to explain to my brother how hard it is to find a job when you are black, Jewish, disabled, gay with a Mexican boyfriend, are a drug addict, HIV positive, bald, and an orphan, but he doesn’t get it.

Frustrated, I hang up. It’s then I realize I only have one hand!!! With tears in my eyes, I go to the window to look out. I see I live in a shanty-town full of cardboard and tin houses! There is trash everywhere.

Suddenly I feel a sharp pain near my pacemaker.... Pacemaker??

Besides being black, Jewish, disabled, a fairy with a Mexican boyfriend, a drug addict, HIV positive, bald, orphaned, unemployed, an invalid with one hand, and having a bad heart, I live in a crappy neighborhood.

At that very moment my boyfriend approaches and says to me, ‘Sweetie pie, my love, my little black heartthrob, have you decided what you are going to wear to Washington to see Obama?’

Say it isn’t so!!! I can handle being a black, disabled, one-armed, drug-addicted, Jewish homosexual on a pacemaker who is HIV positive, bald, orphaned, unemployed, lives in a slum, and has a Mexican boyfriend, but please, Oh dear God, please don’t tell me I'm a Democrat!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Deus Naturae on February 20, 2014, 02:02:44 AM
What the...even if they thought all that stuff, why would anyone feel the need to send an email like that...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Potatoe on February 20, 2014, 08:45:45 AM
*Laughs Maniacally* YES! ''Walker's Goin' Down''

Maybe an overreaction, but I really don't like Scott Walker or his policies.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on February 28, 2014, 08:04:16 AM
Cook Political Report: Wisconsin: Likely Rep======> Lean Rep.
To be honest, I don't understand. Of course Wisconsin is between lean/likely rep, but why this change?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 28, 2014, 11:51:32 AM
Cook Political Report: Wisconsin: Likely Rep======> Lean Rep.
To be honest, I don't understand. Of course Wisconsin is between lean/likely rep, but why this change?

Probably because it has to look like Cook is responding the the release of the Joe Doe emails. I still don't think Walker will lose, but it could be a bit closer now. I'd love to see a new poll in the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on February 28, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
Dane deutch is running for state senate again, considering he lost in 2010 I doubt he wins even though jauch is retiring this time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on February 28, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
I'm getting this ad constantly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrL7jdCEaLc


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on March 01, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Assembly Majority Leader Bill Kramer might be resigning his post due to sexual harassment accusations. It seems that the Republican leadership has recently reached that conclusion. 

http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/sources-wis-assembly-leader-may-resign-post/article_f39a1ef5-dc9b-540b-8c5e-1670557003b6.html (http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/sources-wis-assembly-leader-may-resign-post/article_f39a1ef5-dc9b-540b-8c5e-1670557003b6.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Vega on March 01, 2014, 05:41:35 PM
Assembly Majority Leader Bill Kramer might be resigning his post due to sexual harassment accusations. It seems that the Republican leadership has recently reached that conclusion. 

http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/sources-wis-assembly-leader-may-resign-post/article_f39a1ef5-dc9b-540b-8c5e-1670557003b6.html (http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/sources-wis-assembly-leader-may-resign-post/article_f39a1ef5-dc9b-540b-8c5e-1670557003b6.html)

Wonder who will succeed him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Deus Naturae on March 06, 2014, 07:35:33 PM
Burke has her first ad out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwkY3Tj0_i4&feature=youtu.be)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Vega on March 06, 2014, 07:45:40 PM
Burke has her first ad out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwkY3Tj0_i4&feature=youtu.be)

Good ol political ad showing the candidate in a factory talking to workers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on March 07, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
Burke has her first ad out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwkY3Tj0_i4&feature=youtu.be)

Good ol political ad showing the candidate in a factory talking to workers.

Burke's statement of unemployment rate increasing under Walker Rated Pants on Fire (http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/mar/07/mary-burke/democratic-challenger-mary-burke-says-wisconsin-un/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Deus Naturae on March 10, 2014, 07:04:06 PM
Walker ad hits Burke for false unemployment rate claim. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWuB0VNNwnQ)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on April 11, 2014, 04:05:23 PM
This is strange james o'keefe seems to have targeted a republican and it was with something actually serious. This one seems to be a Dem pickup opportunity aswell.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/ellis-drops-out-of-senate-race-b99245893z1-254907211.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 11, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
This is strange james o'keefe seems to have targeted a republican and it was with something actually serious. This one seems to be a Dem pickup opportunity aswell.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/ellis-drops-out-of-senate-race-b99245893z1-254907211.html

Dang, two possible Dem pickups. Too bad these seats weren't up in 2012 or 2016.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 11, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Obama carried this district by ten points in 2008! Oh yes!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 11, 2014, 04:47:20 PM
And he even carried this district in 2008 (by 0.01 point)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 11, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Ellis has decided not to run for re-election (http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20140411/APC0104/304110232/). Wow that was quick. I would say Ellis has some decency for deciding to retire, but he had the audacity to say this:

Quote
The concept of trust that existed 20 years ago, “when you could talk without being afraid that everything you said was going to be recorded,” is gone, Ellis said.

lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 12, 2014, 04:09:03 AM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TX Conservative Dem on April 12, 2014, 10:32:33 AM
Walker might run for President in 2016 or the United States Senate in 2018 against Baldwin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 12, 2014, 10:34:22 AM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 12, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.
Petri is retiring EG!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 12, 2014, 12:21:24 PM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.
Petri is retiring EG!

Oh, well I still don't expect anything to change. GOP already has 3 candidates in the race, any clear frontrunner?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 12, 2014, 12:34:28 PM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.
Petri is retiring EG!

Oh, well I still don't expect anything to change. GOP already has 3 candidates in the race, any clear frontrunner?

Yes, this guy

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html)

And that's why we are saying this could be somewhat competitive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 12, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.
Petri is retiring EG!

Oh, well I still don't expect anything to change. GOP already has 3 candidates in the race, any clear frontrunner?

Yes, this guy

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html)

And that's why we are saying this could be somewhat competitive.
And you Gass, if the 9th district is open, is it a potential dem pick up?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on April 12, 2014, 02:13:46 PM
Grothman is the frontrunner only because I'm pretty sure he's the only one that's officially in. I may be wrong though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 12, 2014, 03:20:11 PM
State senator Joe Leibham, representing the 9th district, would be interested to run for Petri's seat. An another pick up possibilty for the democrats? Obama carried this district by 4 points in 2008 (and Romney carried this district by 7 points in 2012)

Nah. That guy isn't going to win against Petri in a primary, and no democrat is picking up that seat.
Petri is retiring EG!

Oh, well I still don't expect anything to change. GOP already has 3 candidates in the race, any clear frontrunner?

Yes, this guy

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/253734901.html)

And that's why we are saying this could be somewhat competitive.
And you Gass, if the 9th district is open, is it a potential dem pick up?

The 9th would be a really hard pick up. The Sheboygan-Manitowoc area, even though it was historically Democratic (look at 1960 Presidential election), is pretty Republican now. It would be very hard for a Democrat to win. However, the mayor of Manitowoc is a Democrat and pretty popular. If he were to run, I think it would at least be competitive.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 12, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
If it comes down to Leibham and Grothman, I'd probably call Leibham the frontrunner.

I have trouble seeing the Democrats pick up Leibham's seat unless there is some sort of scandal. Even if the Democrats have a popular mayor, what sort of margins would they have to run up around Manitowoc to cancel out Sheboygan County? Leibham won Sheboygan County by about 15,000 votes last time around. Last time Manitowoc County only had about 20,000 voters.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 12, 2014, 05:48:48 PM
Dammit, Wisconsin will be so interesting in 2014! And probably in 2016 and 2018 too! LoveWisconsin !!!!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 17, 2014, 04:42:42 PM
PPP will poll Wisconsin. Your prediction?
Personally: 48-42 Walker


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on April 17, 2014, 06:33:23 PM
PPP will poll Wisconsin. Your prediction?
Personally: 48-42 Walker

46-43 Walker


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on April 18, 2014, 07:14:44 AM
http://atr.rollcall.com/republicans-prepare-for-primary-fight-in-wisconsin-house-race/
I hope they will poll this primary too.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on May 02, 2014, 09:41:34 AM
http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true (http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MurrayBannerman on May 02, 2014, 01:50:09 PM
http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true (http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true)
What an asshole.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 02, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Yes, Hulsey is ... special


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on May 29, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
Not a good month for the WI GOP party (http://new.scenenewspaper.com/2014/05/wisconsin-gops-bad-month/)
-the scandal who forced a rep state senator to retire (Ellis: his district: D+1 Obama carried twice)
-The retirement of Petri: tea party vs gop establishment race: Grothman vs Leithman. The establishment should win, but Leithman's district is now open (R+3).
-Their senate majority leader was forced to resign because of a sex harassment scandal.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on May 29, 2014, 07:04:22 PM
http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true (http://m.host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/on-politics-brett-hulsey-plans-to-hand-out-kkk-hoods/article_ba0539d0-1d24-58d7-882a-415e6715eb95.html?mobile_touch=true)
What an asshole.

Quote
D-Madison


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on May 31, 2014, 12:07:42 PM
Wisconsin is now a toss up for  Cook.

Too soon, and they underestimate Walker.
And I say that as someone who deeply hates him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Illini on May 31, 2014, 08:44:27 PM
Wisconsin is now a toss up for  Cook.

Too soon, and they underestimate Walker.
And I say that as someone who deeply hates him.

No they don't. They're acknowledging the good chunk of votes in the recall that simply opposed the idea of a recall and they are acknowledging the polls, especially the huge Marquette one. Tied and the campaign has barely started? Toss up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 31, 2014, 10:22:55 PM
Scene Newspaper? Seriously?!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on June 02, 2014, 02:35:51 AM
How very generous of David Koch: (http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05/12490/americans-prosperity-charity-pours-900k-walker-race)

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The "charitable" wing of David Koch's Americans for Prosperity has dropped nearly $900,000 on ads to boost Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's reelection campaign, just days after polls showed Walker tied with his Democratic challenger, Mary Burke.

Incredibly, whomever provided the funding for the ads -- whether it was David Koch himself or a collection of deep-pocketed donors -- can write-off the expenses as a charitable contribution, just like a donation to a neighborhood church or the American Red Cross.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on June 02, 2014, 01:32:18 PM
How very generous of David Koch: (http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/05/12490/americans-prosperity-charity-pours-900k-walker-race)

Quote
The "charitable" wing of David Koch's Americans for Prosperity has dropped nearly $900,000 on ads to boost Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's reelection campaign, just days after polls showed Walker tied with his Democratic challenger, Mary Burke.

Incredibly, whomever provided the funding for the ads -- whether it was David Koch himself or a collection of deep-pocketed donors -- can write-off the expenses as a charitable contribution, just like a donation to a neighborhood church or the American Red Cross.

I don't think the Kochs will let Walker lose, even if they have to spend $100 million for him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 11, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on June 11, 2014, 02:11:37 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 11, 2014, 06:09:08 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 11, 2014, 06:15:45 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

Fair enough, so you must really hate Paul Ryan?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on June 11, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on June 11, 2014, 06:29:22 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.
Yeah, if you count Romney's life as "work", then Burke's should as well. And the Mormon Missionary crap don't count dawg.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 11, 2014, 08:53:20 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.
Yeah, if you count Romney's life as "work", then Burke's should as well. And the Mormon Missionary crap don't count dawg.
Lets weigh this out:
A) Willard has a habit of building billion dollar companies from scratch or the scrape heap.  That's work any way you define it.
B) Dick Burke's daughter has a habit of taking several year long snowboarding sabbaticals from    "her job" at daddies company.  That isn't work any way you look at it.   

...I keep hoping the lefties will be coherent and logical and examine facts, but no.  They only offer hypocrisy, inconsistent, and flawed emotional 'thoughts'. 
This instance is an example.  Democrats make up some standard for Romney or Ryan that they supposedly don't meet (which dems have to kinda lye and fudge about, but wtev). If you take THEIR OWN STANDARD and apply it to THEIR candidate, than they are forced to confront the fact that Burke obviously doesn't meet their own standard.  So then you get these interesting child-like reactions "grrrr ahhh  Ryan, Romney are sort of as bad as our candidate if you lie about them... grrr damn GOP is racist anyway."

 Just say we were wrong to make that crap up about Romney and Ryan and we are ready to move on without manufacturing class warfare, as that is the only way we can logically support Marry Burke whose only actual political asset is her entirely inherited wealth.  I understand you can't because the brain dead in your base actually believe your false narratives and are thus permanently programmed to hate on an ideological basis and mob dynamics.                           


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on June 11, 2014, 08:56:27 PM
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.
Yeah, if you count Romney's life as "work", then Burke's should as well. And the Mormon Missionary crap don't count dawg.
Lets weigh this out:
A) Willard has a habit of building billion dollar companies from scratch or the scrape heap.  That's work any way you define it.
B) Dick Burke's daughter has a habit of taking several year long snowboarding sabbaticals from    "her job" at daddies company.  That isn't work any way you look at it.   

...I keep hoping the lefties will be coherent and logical and examine facts, but no.  They only offer hypocrisy, inconsistent, and flawed emotional 'thoughts'. 
This instance is an example.  Democrats make up some standard for Romney or Ryan that they supposedly don't meet (which dems have to kinda lye and fudge about, but wtev). If you take THEIR OWN STANDARD and apply it to THEIR candidate, than they are forced to confront the fact that Burke obviously doesn't meet their own standard.  So then you get these interesting child-like reactions "grrrr ahhh  Ryan, Romney are sort of as bad as our candidate if you lie about them... grrr damn GOP is racist anyway."

 Just say we were wrong to make that crap up about Romney and Ryan and we are ready to move on without manufacturing class warfare, as that is the only way we can logically support Marry Burke whose only actual political asset is her entirely inherited wealth.  I understand you can't because the brain dead in your base actually believe your false narratives and are thus permanently programmed to hate on an ideological basis and mob dynamics.                           
Or nah


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: jimrtex on June 12, 2014, 01:07:49 AM
- Baldwin did much better then Obama up Nort (little bit of Wisconsin lingo, lol) and in the Minneapolis exurbs. Wondering if race had something to do this is difference or if it was more about their opinions on Obama's performance as President.    
I think there was a stronger reaction to the labor union shenanigans at the start of Walker's term.

Since Walker is from Milwaukee, this area would not naturally identify with him.  In much of this area, a teacher's salary is a pretty good salary, and because of the less dense population, teachers are more integrated in the local community.  So there would be more of a shock when teachers skip class to go to Madison.  And the occupation of the capital would be seen more as a trashing of the capital to someone who may have only been there once or twice, if at all.

Take a look at the Walker recall vote, vs his original election and it looks much the same as your map.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 12, 2014, 10:05:39 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on June 12, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   

WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! ::)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on June 12, 2014, 03:17:11 PM
Yes, clearly Mitt "if you want to start your own business, asks your parents for money!" Romney became successful from scratch...LOL


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 12, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
Yes, clearly Mitt "if you want to start your own business, asks your parents for money!" Romney became successful from scratch...LOL
Didn't happen (as far as I know, and I'm pretty sure).  He had access to capitol, so I don't see why he would want any money from his parents.  Mitt isn't a taker like most wealthy democrats.  Mitt had more money than his dad by far when he died, so he donated his entire inheritance to endow a college in his father's name.  It's like every lefty automatically assumes parents have to throw money at their kids and kids have to be net takers... or they are trying to perpetrate a lie about someone.  Again, can't support Burke by your own standard.  


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 13, 2014, 12:01:07 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   

WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! ::)

Oh yes the Solidarity Sing Along. To be honest it's kind of amusing at this point; half the time you can't even tell what they're protesting anymore. Truthfully that's not uncommon in this town in general. You tune it out after a while. Such is life.

I don't think the Solidarity Sing Along is particularly helpful to the Democrats' cause. I think they look ridiculous. But they have a right to look ridiculous.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian. on June 13, 2014, 12:06:39 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   

'Scars'? You can't be serious.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 13, 2014, 12:35:28 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   

'Scars'? You can't be serious.

Madison protests can be a very scarring experience :P

Anecdotally, I think of anything I've seen here the thing that bothered me the most was when there was a weed protest in on the street in front of my church and some people in the protest were smoking pot on the church steps. I know that isn't some kind of traumatizing event by any stretch of the imagination, but that bothered me more than anything else I've seen.

The anti-Walker stuff is really just funny since it's almost always so over the top because they've already exhausted the verbal hatred by now. From "Recall Walker" to "Impeach Walker" to "Jail Walker", where do you really go from there?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 13, 2014, 07:31:49 AM
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.  

'Scars'? You can't be serious.

They kind of just ruin the mood.  I have a warm memory of visiting the capitol in grade school, it really is one of the most beautiful capitols in the country and one of the few 'fully - functioning - museum - landmark' ones.  It probably wouldn't be as warm a memory if I witnessed asylum patients chanting tongues.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQl-WD2aWY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQl-WD2aWY)
You can here them in the background as segway boy rides around babbling and chanting harassing nonsense and then lying about what he's saying.     Ryan repeatedly harassed Gwyn Guenther, reporter and daughter of the deceased longtime Capitol reporter Dick Wheeler, the founder of the Wheeler Report, a popular Capitol news service. Guenther has since moved her office from the Capitol to avoid hearing segway boys chant of "wheeler's dead" everyday.  
 
...on the other hand you did get this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDihYmhsMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDihYmhsMA) awesome spontaneous counter protest of the protesters from high school kids.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJzhzGfqDI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJzhzGfqDI)
To top it off Dekker hit a late 3 to win the title, those Sheboygan Lu kids have class.  


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on June 13, 2014, 10:18:51 AM
Can we end this pointless discussion? Its killing a perfectly good electoral thread.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on June 13, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
Can we end this pointless discussion? Its killing a perfectly good electoral thread.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on June 13, 2014, 11:09:21 AM
Jeremy segway boy ryan is Paul Ryan's primary opponent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Dixie Reborn on June 13, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
Grothman is the frontrunner only because I'm pretty sure he's the only one that's officially in. I may be wrong though.

Grothman is running, and there are four other Republicans also in the race. They are:
-State Senator Joe Leibham
-State Representative Duey Stroebel
-Some Dude Thom Denow
-Some Dude(tte) Nancy Olson

I predict a Grothman win in a plurality, as he will be supported by Social Conservatives and Tea Partiers, while Leibham and Stroebel will split the moderate/establishment vote. The vote shares of the some dude candidates will probably add up to 5 percent.

However, I could be very wrong, as there is no polling of the race. Hopefully, we'll have a clearer view once the polls start rolling out.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on June 15, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
The New Republic did a really thorough profile of Walker  (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118145/scott-walkers-toxic-racial-politics?utm_content=bufferbe509&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)and tied in much of Milwaukee's history.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: henster on June 15, 2014, 11:16:53 PM
So if Walker runs for President and wins the nomination and resigns mid 2016 to free him from the campaign finance rules against Governors does Kleefisch remain Governor until 2018 or is a special election called?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on June 16, 2014, 10:01:24 AM
So if Walker runs for President and wins the nomination and resigns mid 2016 to free him from the campaign finance rules against Governors does Kleefisch remain Governor until 2018 or is a special election called?

She'd remain governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on June 19, 2014, 12:34:29 AM
Walker zings Johnson: (http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquarter/did-walker-rip-gop-senator-national-review-says-yes-he-says-no-b99293223z1-263567891.html)

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While on a fundraising trip in New Jersey last week, Gov. Scott Walker chided several prominent politicians while signaling that he thinks he might be the guy to take on former U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton.

According to the conservative National Review, Walker took a swipe at a particular Republican U.S. senator, whom he didn't name, for always grousing about the national debt.

"Walker said that, while he shares the sentiment, the issue has limited popular appeal," wrote the National Review's Eliana Johnson. "At times, he said that listening to the senator harping on it makes him 'want to slit my wrists because I'm just like, "My God, this is so awful, I cannot believe this."'"

Hmm, Wisconsin has a U.S. senator, Ron Johnson, who likes to harp on the national debt. In fact, nobody in Washington, D.C., has the single-minded focus on the subject like Wisconsin's Republican senator. Just check out the 62 downloadable charts on the national debt and deficit available on Johnson's official website. Sixty-two.

So Johnson's got to be the guy.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 19, 2014, 01:46:11 PM
Prosecutors allege Scott Walker was "at the center of a criminal scheme"

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-unseals-hundreds-of-documents-in-john-doe-probe-b99295017z1-263839791.html (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-unseals-hundreds-of-documents-in-john-doe-probe-b99295017z1-263839791.html)

Glorious news! :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 19, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
Prosecutors allege Scott Walker was "at the center of a criminal scheme"

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-unseals-hundreds-of-documents-in-john-doe-probe-b99295017z1-263839791.html (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/federal-judge-unseals-hundreds-of-documents-in-john-doe-probe-b99295017z1-263839791.html)

Interestingly, the documents were unsealed at the request of the Wisconsin Club for Growth.


Have you reached a sufficient level of political hackishness where you want Walker to be guilty of something (which hasn't happened and likely won't)?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on June 20, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Well,
Wait and see for Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: The Dowager Mod on June 20, 2014, 11:45:40 AM
The slimy bastard might finally get caught.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on July 11, 2014, 03:13:58 PM
Rothenberg moves the Gov race to Lean R from Likely R. (http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/rating-change-wisconsin-governor/) Seems a bit late (as usual).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Tender Branson on July 18, 2014, 01:40:09 PM
Is anyone ever polling this race again ?

The last poll was done 2 months ago.

This is a really close race after all ...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on August 06, 2014, 05:29:45 PM
Brutal anti-Walker ad using his own words. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1lU2v2Ej8)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 06, 2014, 05:32:12 PM
Brutal anti-Walker ad using his own words. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1lU2v2Ej8)

Yeah, that's a great ad. Ads that use politicians' words against them are always my favorite.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Tender Branson on August 07, 2014, 02:22:09 AM
Brutal anti-Walker ad using his own words. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1lU2v2Ej8)

Burke is Walker's worst nightmare.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: KingSweden on August 07, 2014, 08:45:03 AM
Brutal anti-Walker ad using his own words. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M1lU2v2Ej8)

I would just run this ad every day until November, several times a day. There's no comeback to that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on August 07, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Beautiful ad


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on August 07, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Rothenberg cites that ad in moving WI from Lean R to Tossup. (http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/rating-change-wisconsin-governor-2/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on August 10, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
Wisconsin's Primaries are this Tuesday.

Here's a quick rundown on some of the races I'll be watching:

1. Republican Primary for WI-6, the seat of Jim Petri, who is retiring:
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There are three candidates, State Senator Glenn Grothman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Grothman) (R-West BendCampbellsport), State Assemblyman Duey Stroebel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duey_Stroebel) (R-Cedarburg), and State Senator Joe Leibham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Leibham) (R-Sheboygan). Grothman is running as the Tea Party candidate though neither Leibham nor Stroebel is a RINO by any means. Grothman also didn't live in the district until earlier this year. While I don't live in WI-6 and obviously can't vote, I'm hoping Leibham wins because he best represents the district, I agree with him most ideologically, and I respect the work he's done to try and change Wisconsin's pathetic drunk driving laws. He's also the only candidate not from the Milwaukee metro area, which the majority of the district is not in. Regardless, I think any of the three can win in November and if I lived there would vote for any of the three.

2. Democratic Primary for Governor: I'm watching this, not because it will be close (it won't) but out of sheer amusement at how many votes State AssemblymanBrett Hulsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Hulsey) can get. Hulsey has raised some eyebrows over the years for knocking a random kid off an intertube at the beach, trying to make a backroom deal to switch parties, and handing out KKK hoods at the Republican State Convention, among other things. I see him all the time riding around town either in his car or by bike collecting signatures and shaking hands. I'm genuinely curious to see how much support an undefunded vocal anti-establishment left wing candidate can garner. Trek executive Mary Burke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Burke) is obviously going to win.

3. Democratic Primary for WI 78th State Assembly District
: In the district where I used to live up until a year ago, Madison City Aldermen Mark Clear and Lisa Subeck are vying to win the seat vacated by Brett Hulsey in is run for governor. Both are far, far to the left on pretty much every issue, though I'm rooting for Clear to win as although I agree with him on more or less nothing, he seems more amiable toward people with other views. That and Subeck was the Executive Director of NARAL Pro-Choice Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on August 12, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
In the 75th AD there is a primary on the R side between ken mandley a pastor from turtle lake and romaine quinn the former mayor of rice lake. who is 23 and was mayor at 19. he was also a paulite back when he was mayor, I dont know if he still is. 

I will be voting quinn of course, and probably will vote for nutters on the rest of the gop ballot. :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on August 12, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on August 12, 2014, 10:11:21 PM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.

On a scale of 1 to Bachmann, how unelectable is he?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on August 12, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.

On a scale of 1 to Bachmann, how unelectable is he?

I'll let you decided.

I know that some of these are from left leaning sites, but I think it gets the point across.

 Proposes Law That Declares Single Parenthood Child Abuse (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-law-single-parenthood-child-abuse_n_1316834.html)

 "Women make less because ‘Money is more important for men" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-state-senator-women-money-important-men-article-1.1059872)

Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/glenn-grothman-wisconsin_n_4537891.html)

More Quotes (http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/the-quotes-that-will-follow-glenn-grothman-forever/article_b19d8770-c027-11e3-ab57-0019bb2963f4.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on August 12, 2014, 10:44:16 PM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.

On a scale of 1 to Bachmann, how unelectable is he?

I'll let you decided.

I know that some of these are from left leaning sites, but I think it gets the point across.

 Proposes Law That Declares Single Parenthood Child Abuse (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-law-single-parenthood-child-abuse_n_1316834.html)

 "Women make less because ‘Money is more important for men" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-state-senator-women-money-important-men-article-1.1059872)

Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/glenn-grothman-wisconsin_n_4537891.html)

More Quotes (http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/the-quotes-that-will-follow-glenn-grothman-forever/article_b19d8770-c027-11e3-ab57-0019bb2963f4.html)

Jesus christ. We just got rid of Bachmann in Minnesota only to have her return in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on August 12, 2014, 11:27:05 PM
In other bad news, Lisa Subeck defeated Mark Clear for Wisconsin Assembly District 78, adding another NARAL/Planned Parenthood abortion proponent to the Madison statehouse delegation.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on August 12, 2014, 11:44:53 PM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.

On a scale of 1 to Bachmann, how unelectable is he?

I'll let you decided.

I know that some of these are from left leaning sites, but I think it gets the point across.

 Proposes Law That Declares Single Parenthood Child Abuse (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-law-single-parenthood-child-abuse_n_1316834.html)

 "Women make less because ‘Money is more important for men" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-state-senator-women-money-important-men-article-1.1059872)

Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/glenn-grothman-wisconsin_n_4537891.html)

More Quotes (http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/the-quotes-that-will-follow-glenn-grothman-forever/article_b19d8770-c027-11e3-ab57-0019bb2963f4.html)

I must say Gass, I'm rather underwhelmed by your scare quotes from Grothman. A little inarticulate maybe, but a lot of what he said is not wrong.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on August 13, 2014, 08:05:52 AM
Looks like Grothman is going to win. Only candidate that could make the 6th competitive.

On a scale of 1 to Bachmann, how unelectable is he?

I'll let you decided.

I know that some of these are from left leaning sites, but I think it gets the point across.

 Proposes Law That Declares Single Parenthood Child Abuse (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-law-single-parenthood-child-abuse_n_1316834.html)

 "Women make less because ‘Money is more important for men" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-state-senator-women-money-important-men-article-1.1059872)

Fights For A Seven-Day Workweek (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/03/glenn-grothman-wisconsin_n_4537891.html)

More Quotes (http://host.madison.com/news/local/writers/jack_craver/the-quotes-that-will-follow-glenn-grothman-forever/article_b19d8770-c027-11e3-ab57-0019bb2963f4.html)

I must say Gass, I'm rather underwhelmed by your scare quotes from Grothman. A little inarticulate maybe, but a lot of what he said is not wrong.

I would have to disagree and it appears that Maxy does as well! :P  Also I just read that Mark Harris, who as the Winnebago County Executive should be a formidable opponent, has barely raised any money. Maybe this will help him bring in some cash. I'd have to put this district at Lean R right now, but it could easily move to either Likely R/Safe R or Toss Up.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on August 13, 2014, 08:31:03 AM
Also this is from the Democratic Primary for the 17th Senate District:

Ernie Wittwer   Dem   3,828   50%
Pat Bomhack   Dem   3,826   50%


There was a really nasty primary here. This is good news for Howard Marklein in his efforts to replace Senator Shultz.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on August 13, 2014, 09:02:43 PM
The republican candidate for SOS. Obviously im going to vote for him
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on September 11, 2014, 09:36:06 AM
Really bad editorial for Governor Walker from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel regarding the projected $1.8 billion deficient (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/wisconsin-state-budget-shortfall-projected-at-nearly-18-billion-b99345660z1-274364501.html). MJS endorsed Walker in both 2010 and the 2012 recalls. 

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In 2011, Walker could blame former Gov. Jim Doyle for his troubles. Not now. He has to own this.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/if-theres-a-budget-mess-this-time-it-belongs-to-gov-scott-walker-b99348256z1-274616501.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Dixie Reborn on September 11, 2014, 08:19:15 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on September 11, 2014, 08:23:43 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.

Her ads have been excellent almost all cycle. A much better campaigner than Barrett ever was.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on September 11, 2014, 08:31:50 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.

I expected to cringe, but that was actually a great ad. Burke has definitely exceeded my expectations.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Dixie Reborn on September 11, 2014, 08:38:48 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.

I expected to cringe, but that was actually a great ad. Burke has definitely exceeded my expectations.

Why did you expect to cringe?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Flake on September 11, 2014, 08:43:12 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.

I expected to cringe, but that was actually a great ad. Burke has definitely exceeded my expectations.

She's been a wonderful campaigner and one can hope she will be as great serving as Governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on September 11, 2014, 08:56:16 PM
Mary Burke praises Reagan in new ad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NylJy0Vl0Fg&list=UUG4AHl8e6ckM9t3rvBkN0lA)

I'd say this is the best ad so far in this race.

I expected to cringe, but that was actually a great ad. Burke has definitely exceeded my expectations.

Why did you expect to cringe?

I thought it was going to be a "Conservadem/Gotta attract Dem Raygun Democrats" type of praising Reagan.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on September 18, 2014, 10:11:54 PM
Burke's jobs platform was plagiarized. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar?utm_term=1akf4m2#3vfr2nd)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on September 18, 2014, 10:31:56 PM
Burke's jobs platform was plagiarized. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar?utm_term=1akf4m2#3vfr2nd)

Wow. Walsh, Wehby, and now Burke???


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on September 19, 2014, 12:20:46 AM
Burke's jobs platform was plagiarized. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar?utm_term=1akf4m2#3vfr2nd)

Wow. Walsh, Wehby, and now Burke???

This is in no way comparable to Walsh's academic plagiarism. More comparable to when Republicans laughed at Mary Landrieu's website for copy and pasting stuff from Michelle Nunn's like a year ago. In other words, no impact whatsoever.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Free Bird on September 19, 2014, 09:54:04 AM
Burke's jobs platform was plagiarized. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar?utm_term=1akf4m2#3vfr2nd)

BOOM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: KingSweden on September 19, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Burke's jobs platform was plagiarized. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/wisconsin-democratic-gubernatorial-candidate-plagiarized-lar?utm_term=1akf4m2#3vfr2nd)

Wow. Walsh, Wehby, and now Burke???

This is in no way comparable to Walsh's academic plagiarism. More comparable to when Republicans laughed at Mary Landrieu's website for copy and pasting stuff from Michelle Nunn's like a year ago. In other words, no impact whatsoever.

Agreed, not nearly as bad, but still not good by any means. Thankfully this is happening on September 19 and not October 19. This should be a non-issue by Nov, I'd imagine.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on September 19, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
This is a dumb criticism. Her platform was "plagiarized"? Policymaking isn't a university course where you're getting some qualification that indicates your ability to do original work. If a policy from elsewhere is a good one, there's no reason not to adopt it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Smith on September 19, 2014, 10:15:58 PM
Mhmmm we have a Senator in Kentucky who made up his credentials as an opthamalogist and had plenty of legitimate plagiarism.

If he got in,then so can Burke


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on September 22, 2014, 09:14:12 AM
EMILY's List goes on the air with $1.2M. (http://www.wbay.com/story/26592760/emilys-list-to-spend-12-million-for-burke) Good for Burke, as GOP groups have outspent Democratic groups.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on September 23, 2014, 09:54:17 PM
FLOTUS to Milwaukee for Burke: (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/276192901.html)

Quote
First lady Michelle Obama will come to Milwaukee next week to campaign on behalf of Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke.

Burke's campaign released the news Monday and said it would provide more details in the coming days on the event scheduled for next Monday. A spokeswoman for Burke didn't immediately say whether Obama would raise campaign funds for Burke while in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: nolesfan2011 on September 26, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
Not sure why people are shrugging off this mass website/platform copy and pasting with Burke, in a toss-up race this type of stuff puts her policy credentials in question, and that might be enough of a hole for Walker to exploit and develop an edge.

It's not her fault, but she should have paid more attention to it, and her staff is doing a TERRIBLE job at damage control and heading stuff off, they are reacting in panic and someone should have noticed this would get caught eventually.

Textbook example of highbrow consultants damaging campaigns with arrogance and blandness, it makes Burke come across as a copycat candidate, less genuine than before, consultants and handlers are hurting her, those people drive me crazy with their arrogance


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on September 26, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
She's actually doubling down with an ad defending it.  (http://www.rightwisconsin.com/main/Breaking-Mary-Burke-Takes-Pride-In-Plagiarism-in-New-TV-Ad-277230052.html) NRO also has a Burke profile. (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388803/wisconsins-dilettante-eliana-johnson)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on September 26, 2014, 09:27:54 PM
The most ironic thing is she's on the Madison Board of Education.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: nolesfan2011 on September 26, 2014, 10:14:41 PM
She's actually doubling down with an ad defending it.  (http://www.rightwisconsin.com/main/Breaking-Mary-Burke-Takes-Pride-In-Plagiarism-in-New-TV-Ad-277230052.html) NRO also has a Burke profile. (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388803/wisconsins-dilettante-eliana-johnson)

oh good gosh, this is just pathetic, she's gloating about this, smh so disrespectful to the voters


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 26, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
Not sure if crazy or just crazy enough to work.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on October 09, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
SCOTUS blocks WI voter ID law. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/supreme-court-blocks-wisconsin-voter-id-law-from-going-into#3sx62fv)

A great victory for the people!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 10, 2014, 08:57:43 AM
http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/democrats-hit-candidate-schimel-for-statement-on-interracial-marriage-b99367685z1-278580281.html (http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/democrats-hit-candidate-schimel-for-statement-on-interracial-marriage-b99367685z1-278580281.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 10, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
Looking forward to watching the gubernatorial debate tonight.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/democrats-hit-candidate-schimel-for-statement-on-interracial-marriage-b99367685z1-278580281.html (http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/democrats-hit-candidate-schimel-for-statement-on-interracial-marriage-b99367685z1-278580281.html)

Yeah, Schimel's a damn joke.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Brewer on October 10, 2014, 07:57:57 PM
I only caught the ending of the debate, but it certainly seemed like Walker was making attempts to appear softer and more compassionate, with Burke bringing up a tougher attitude. Hopefully throughout the debate she didn't seem too mean or stiff.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on October 10, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
Needle didn't move.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 10, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
I watched the full debate with my parents. Both repeated talking points, nonsense slogans like "giveaways to the top and rich" or "protecting hard working tax payers of Wisconsin". Topics discussed were Minimum Wage, Act 10, Full Term, Medicaid expansion, the Budget, Jobs plan, Voter ID (with the recent decision), Abortion, and Energy/Environment. I think Burke did good in the beginning of the debate, while Walker did better near the end of the debate. I think Walker won, because I tend to agree or have a closer position to him on most issues, but it really contestable whether that debate would impact the election. Probably not. Burke was starting to slip near the end, and Walker slipped in the abortion and voter ID questions (the least relevant part of the debate anyway).

There's another one next week. On a separate note, I don't think I'll watch a debate with my parents again, they literally think Burke is a socialist.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: The Dowager Mod on October 21, 2014, 04:33:45 PM

No really what do you think of Wisconsin voters? LOL.
 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/21/wisconsin-voters-election_n_6022034.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2014, 04:40:42 PM
Robert Costa: Walker is the most worried he's been in four years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-gov-scott-walkers-tough-fight-against-mary-burke-will-decide-2016-future/2014/10/21/04ad7006-5934-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Vosem on October 22, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
Robert Costa: Walker is the most worried he's been in four years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-gov-scott-walkers-tough-fight-against-mary-burke-will-decide-2016-future/2014/10/21/04ad7006-5934-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html)

Hopefully Wisconsin voters will relieve that stress on Election Day.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Eraserhead on October 22, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Robert Costa: Walker is the most worried he's been in four years (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-gov-scott-walkers-tough-fight-against-mary-burke-will-decide-2016-future/2014/10/21/04ad7006-5934-11e4-b812-38518ae74c67_story.html)

Hopefully Wisconsin voters will relieve that stress on Election Day.

Yep, Walker certainly won't have much to worry about anymore after election day. ;)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 23, 2014, 10:46:33 PM
Walker's camp accusing Christie of intentionally under-funding him to get rid of a 2016 rival! (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/does-chris-christie-have-scott-walkers-back_816996.html)

Email from conservative grandee: if Walker loses, it'll be "like when [Christie] didn't show up in [PA] for Romney" (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/525490294541000704)

Robert Costa also reports on his twitter that Burke is preparing to go nuclear in the final 10 days, hitting Walker hard on his scandals and the 2011 union saga.

Looks like Burke's got the wind in her sails now! Her closing ad is really fantastic IMO. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ_SA7f9uNs) Manages to tie all the themes of her and others' attacks on Walker together.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on October 23, 2014, 11:25:37 PM
Walker's camp accusing Christie of intentionally under-funding him to get rid of a 2016 rival! (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/does-chris-christie-have-scott-walkers-back_816996.html)

Email from conservative grandee: if Walker loses, it'll be "like when [Christie] didn't show up in [PA] for Romney" (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/525490294541000704)

Robert Costa also reports on his twitter that Burke is preparing to go nuclear in the final 10 days, hitting Walker hard on his scandals and the 2011 union saga.

Looks like Burke's got the wind in her sails now! Her closing ad is really fantastic IMO. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ_SA7f9uNs) Manages to tie all the themes of her and others' attacks on Walker together.

Sounds like Walker and his crew are hitting the panic button. That's not an accusation you throw around 11 days before an election you think you're going to win.

Looks like Walker's campaign may be the George Washington bridge of 2014. Serves them right for keeping a corrupt puffer fish as the RGA chairman.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 23, 2014, 11:42:23 PM
Walker's camp accusing Christie of intentionally under-funding him to get rid of a 2016 rival! (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/does-chris-christie-have-scott-walkers-back_816996.html)

Email from conservative grandee: if Walker loses, it'll be "like when [Christie] didn't show up in [PA] for Romney" (https://twitter.com/costareports/status/525490294541000704)

Robert Costa also reports on his twitter that Burke is preparing to go nuclear in the final 10 days, hitting Walker hard on his scandals and the 2011 union saga.

Looks like Burke's got the wind in her sails now! Her closing ad is really fantastic IMO. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ_SA7f9uNs) Manages to tie all the themes of her and others' attacks on Walker together.

You almost never hear stories like this when things are going well. This is awesome news! Only 12 more days!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on October 23, 2014, 11:45:32 PM
He's not entirely wrong. Christie is a huge crook.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Flake on October 23, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
He's not entirely wrong. Christie is a huge crook.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's true, Christie should have never been trusted with this amount of money/power. He's using it to serve himself. Isn't he also airing ads with Kasich in Ohio just because?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on October 23, 2014, 11:52:16 PM
He's not entirely wrong. Christie is a huge crook.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's true, Christie should have never been trusted with this amount of money/power. He's using it to serve himself. Isn't he also airing ads with Kasich in Ohio just because?

Yeah, him and Corbett are getting money inspite of their individual situations, meanwhile Walker is getting f-ed in the a on saturday.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on October 24, 2014, 12:04:02 AM
^ Yep, if I were a Republican donor I'd be pretty pissed Christie is sending millions to Corbett while underfunding Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on October 24, 2014, 12:27:22 AM
^ Yep, if I were a Republican donor I'd be pretty pissed Christie is sending millions to Corbett while underfunding Walker.

No, it's critically important that Corbett loses by 10 rather than 20 and that Kasich wins by 30 rather than 20. Walker losing by 1 instead of winning by 1? That's just not as high on the priority list. ;)

It seems the tub of lard is as incompetent at managing money as he is at managing his staff.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on October 24, 2014, 12:33:13 AM
^ Yep, if I were a Republican donor I'd be pretty pissed Christie is sending millions to Corbett while underfunding Walker.

No, it's critically important that Corbett loses by 10 rather than 20 and that Kasich wins by 30 rather than 20. Walker losing by 1 instead of winning by 1? That's just not as high on the priority list. ;)

It seems the tub of lard is as incompetent at managing money as he is at managing his staff.

How many god damn credit downgrades has he had? All they seem to care about is putting a happy face on the party instead of running people who can actually do their god damn job.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Eraserhead on October 24, 2014, 01:27:39 AM
Walker camp seems to be getting pretty close to meltdown mode.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Bojack Horseman on October 24, 2014, 01:10:37 PM
^ Yep, if I were a Republican donor I'd be pretty pissed Christie is sending millions to Corbett while underfunding Walker.

No, it's critically important that Corbett loses by 10 rather than 20 and that Kasich wins by 30 rather than 20. Walker losing by 1 instead of winning by 1? That's just not as high on the priority list. ;)

It seems the tub of lard is as incompetent at managing money as he is at managing his staff.

And two years from now he's going to run for President saying that he'll balance the budget.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on October 26, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes

Disgusting...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on October 26, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes

Disgusting...

I forgot Grothman did actually win the primary, sh*t. This guy is going to be Wisconsin's Bachmann.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on October 26, 2014, 08:51:54 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes

Disgusting...

I forgot Grothman did actually win the primary, sh*t. This guy is going to be Wisconsin's Bachmann.

Obama won the district in 2008, so hopefully he won't be around nearly as long as Bachmann was.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Dixie Reborn on October 26, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes

Disgusting...

I forgot Grothman did actually win the primary, sh*t. This guy is going to be Wisconsin's Bachmann.

Obama won the district in 2008, so hopefully he won't be around nearly as long as Bachmann was.

He'll probably get Blanche'd in 2016


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on October 27, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/glenn-grothman-wisconsin-republican-congress-quotes

Disgusting...

This guy is the worst of the worst a Republican can get. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 27, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
The Walker-Christie feud continues to heat up! (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/scott-walker-chris-christie-2014-elections-112227.html)

Quote
Asked if he was satisfied with the support he’s received from national Republicans, Walker indicated he hopes to get more backup from the Republican Governors Association. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who chairs the RGA, is coming to campaign for Walker this week — but the Wisconsin Republican said he’s “not looking for surrogates.”

“[Christie] is coming because he asked if he could come and we weren’t going to say no,” Walker said. “But we’re not looking for surrogates. The people that have been campaigning with me are by and large from Wisconsin.”

It’s TV spending, Walker emphasized, where national Republicans can make the biggest difference. So far, he said, the out-of-state effort on his behalf “pales in comparison” to what his coalition of foes have spent on the other side.

“I’m hopeful that, just as they have in the past, at least some of the national governors associations have come in and helped,” Walker said. “We can’t coordinate [spending with outside groups] in this state, so we have to see it once it’s up on the air. But they did in 2010 and 2012 and I’m hopeful — I believe they will again this time.”

Walker's really not been acting like someone who thinks he's going to win the past couple of days.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on October 27, 2014, 03:03:14 PM
The Walker-Christie feud continues to heat up! (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/scott-walker-chris-christie-2014-elections-112227.html)

Quote
Asked if he was satisfied with the support he’s received from national Republicans, Walker indicated he hopes to get more backup from the Republican Governors Association. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who chairs the RGA, is coming to campaign for Walker this week — but the Wisconsin Republican said he’s “not looking for surrogates.”

“[Christie] is coming because he asked if he could come and we weren’t going to say no,” Walker said. “But we’re not looking for surrogates. The people that have been campaigning with me are by and large from Wisconsin.”

It’s TV spending, Walker emphasized, where national Republicans can make the biggest difference. So far, he said, the out-of-state effort on his behalf “pales in comparison” to what his coalition of foes have spent on the other side.

“I’m hopeful that, just as they have in the past, at least some of the national governors associations have come in and helped,” Walker said. “We can’t coordinate [spending with outside groups] in this state, so we have to see it once it’s up on the air. But they did in 2010 and 2012 and I’m hopeful — I believe they will again this time.”

Walker's really not been acting like someone who thinks he's going to win the past couple of days.

If he does win re-election, Walker is going to be looking to take some pounds of flesh off Christie in the primary debates (no pun intended).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Vega on October 27, 2014, 03:04:32 PM
It's not like Christie is going to sway anyone who wasn't going to vote for Walker. Raising money is indeed his area.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 28, 2014, 12:36:15 PM
Obama is coming to Milwaukee today to campaign for Burke. This is the start of a 6 state swing that includes Michigan, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on October 28, 2014, 12:39:07 PM
Obama is coming to Milwaukee today to campaign for Burke. This is the start of a 6 state swing that includes Michigan, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html)

RIP Burke


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 28, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Obama is coming to Milwaukee today to campaign for Burke. This is the start of a 6 state swing that includes Michigan, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html)

RIP Burke

Don't worry, it isn't Michelle Obama.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 28, 2014, 12:49:35 PM
Obama is coming to Milwaukee today to campaign for Burke. This is the start of a 6 state swing that includes Michigan, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/obama-2014-elections_n_6062152.html)

RIP Burke

Don't worry, it isn't Michelle Obama.

It makes sense why he's coming, need to fire up minority voters in Milwaukee. I can't see this becoming an issue in the rest of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 28, 2014, 01:06:47 PM
You people seriously over estimate how much voters care about this stuff.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 28, 2014, 02:48:29 PM
You people seriously over estimate how much voters care about this stuff.

Crap, I ment to say this will not be an issue in the rest of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 28, 2014, 09:15:15 PM
What a goddamn legend.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Eraserhead on October 28, 2014, 10:34:32 PM
Burke letting Obama come in is a big sign of confidence on her part.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on October 28, 2014, 10:42:54 PM
F[inks] it, I'll take a GOP sweep of the swings and competitives if we can just kick out Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 28, 2014, 10:43:05 PM
Burke letting Obama come in is a big sign of confidence on her part.

Agreed, its all about GOTV now and Obama helps you do that in Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on October 29, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
Burke fired by family from Trek for incompetence (http://watchdog.org/179822/mary-burke-trek-sales/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 29, 2014, 10:32:24 AM
Burke fired by family from Trek for incompetence (http://watchdog.org/179822/mary-burke-trek-sales/)

Quote
By M.D. Kittle

M.D. Kittle
Kittle is a 25-year veteran of radio, newspaper and online journalism. In July 2011, Kittle joined Watchdog.org as bureau chief for Wisconsin Reporter. He has spent much of the past three years covering the seismic political changes taking place in the Badger State. Last year, Kittle joined Watchdog’s national reporting team, covering everything from energy policy to governmental assaults on civil rights. Beyond being published in Wisconsin’s daily newspapers and in multimedia news outlets, Kittle’s work has appeared on Fox News, and in Human Events, Reason Magazine, Newsmax and Town Hall. His special investigation into a politically charged John Doe probe, “Wisconsin’s Secret War,” was the basis of a 2014 documentary on Glenn Beck’s TheBlaze. Kittle has made several appearances on Fox News, including “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren. He serves as weekly politics commentator for Lake 96.1 FM in Lake Geneva, and WRJN-AM 1400 in Racine. His resume includes multiple awards for journalism excellence from The Associated Press, Inland Press, Wisconsin Broadcast Association and other journalism associations. Contact Kittle at mkittle@watchdog.org.

Let me know when a legitimate news outlet reports this, k?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on October 29, 2014, 09:08:47 PM
Here's a credible source. (https://twitter.com/DanODradio/status/527637481353920512)

Link. Both Burke and her brother deny it. (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c6e5add5979e46baac57411846f54b11/wisconsin-candidate-rejects-claim-trek-fired-her)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2014, 09:10:55 PM
Damn, Walker's campaign must be getting desperate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on October 30, 2014, 01:45:10 PM
Ummmm...

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With a race this close(and if it wasn't incredibly close, this would not happen), we know that our friends will be going to the lowest common denominator.   They showed that today, by making up a story about Mary Burke.  A Bradley Foundation funded website, came out with an "exclusive" story about Mary Burke's tenure at Trek.   The source, a fired ex Trek employee who is now chair of the Jefferson County Republican party and ran in the recall elections as a "fake" Democrat named Gary Ellerman.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Flake on October 30, 2014, 02:23:37 PM
Ummmm...

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With a race this close(and if it wasn't incredibly close, this would not happen), we know that our friends will be going to the lowest common denominator.   They showed that today, by making up a story about Mary Burke.  A Bradley Foundation funded website, came out with an "exclusive" story about Mary Burke's tenure at Trek.   The source, a fired ex Trek employee who is now chair of the Jefferson County Republican party and ran in the recall elections as a "fake" Democrat named Gary Ellerman.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html)

lmao this story is such bs


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: mypalfish on October 30, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Ummmm...

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With a race this close(and if it wasn't incredibly close, this would not happen), we know that our friends will be going to the lowest common denominator.   They showed that today, by making up a story about Mary Burke.  A Bradley Foundation funded website, came out with an "exclusive" story about Mary Burke's tenure at Trek.   The source, a fired ex Trek employee who is now chair of the Jefferson County Republican party and ran in the recall elections as a "fake" Democrat named Gary Ellerman.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280884742.html)

lmao this story is such bs

The former Trek Pres and CEO backs the story up.  And this guy doesn't have any axe to grind.  If the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel dug into Burke as hard as they have Gov Walker, this would have been reported months ago.

http://www.newstalk1130.com/onair/common-sense-central-37717/former-trek-president-and-ceo-confirms-12916069/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: KCDem on October 30, 2014, 06:11:50 PM
No one cares.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 02, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
Wisconsin State Journal endorses Burke after endorsing Walker in 2010 and the 2012 recall.

http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/editorial/burke-best-fit-to-reenergize-state-economy/article_705e6745-6bf3-5f40-a301-b774e4b320df.html#.VFY7ivh5Inw.facebook (http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/editorial/burke-best-fit-to-reenergize-state-economy/article_705e6745-6bf3-5f40-a301-b774e4b320df.html#.VFY7ivh5Inw.facebook)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: The Other Castro on November 02, 2014, 12:53:09 PM
Wisconsin State Journal endorses Burke after endorsing Walker in 2010 and the 2012 recall.

http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/editorial/burke-best-fit-to-reenergize-state-economy/article_705e6745-6bf3-5f40-a301-b774e4b320df.html#.VFY7ivh5Inw.facebook (http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/editorial/burke-best-fit-to-reenergize-state-economy/article_705e6745-6bf3-5f40-a301-b774e4b320df.html#.VFY7ivh5Inw.facebook)

probably too late


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: The Dowager Mod on November 04, 2014, 10:21:50 PM
Just called for walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Stockdale for Veep on November 04, 2014, 10:29:32 PM
There are actually Walker-Walker-Obama-Baldwin-Walker voters out there. Idiots.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: I Will Not Be Wrong on November 04, 2014, 10:39:47 PM
There are actually Walker-Walker-Obama-Baldwin-Walker voters out there. Idiots.
Those are some pretty cool people. :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 04, 2014, 11:02:01 PM
There are actually Walker-Walker-Obama-Baldwin-Walker voters out there. Idiots.
Those are some pretty cool people. :)

They are actually Bush-Bush-Obama-Walker/Johnson-Walker-Obama/Baldwin-Walker voters.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 10, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Everyone knows what happened on the Governor level, but I imagine some might be interested in what happened on the down races.

Attorney General and State Treasurer had essentially the same results as the Governor race, with the Democrat doing a little bit better in the Treasurer contest. Schimel won 51.6%-45.4% and Matt Adamczyk won 48.8%-44.8%. Democrat Doug La Follette pulled out another win in a wave year, winning 50.0-46.3%. I have to imagine his last name is the main reason he's been successful in these elections that have not been good for Democrats, even though he's of no relation to the famous family. This was the only good news for the Democrats the entire night.

There was some discussion before the election that the Democrats would have a chance to take back the State Senate. I personally did not think it was possible, but I thought they could net at least 1 seat. In reality the Republicans had a net gain and the body with be 19-14 Republican. Van Wanggaard won back the newly heavily gerrymandered seat comprised of rural/suburban Kenosha and Racine counties 61.5%-38.5%. Democrats failed to gain SD-17 which was previously held by a very moderate Republican in Dale Schultz. Obama won this district with 57.3% of the vote in 2012, but Republican Howard Marklein won 55.1%-44.9%. Another district Democrats thought they had a chance in was SD-19, which Obama won with 50.01% of the vote in 2012. Incumbent Michael Ellis retired and the Democrats got what appeared to be a very good candidate in Representative Penny Bernard Schaber. Roger Roth ended up winning easily 57.2-42.8%. Democrats also almost lost two districts that should have never been close (SD-25 Obama 56.4% and SD-31 Obama 55.2%).

In the Assembly, it appears that Democrats lost 3 seats (2 seats are still uncalled, but Republicans will probably win). Republicans in all likelihood will have a majority of 63-36. They gained AD-70, which was gerrymandered to an Obama loss of 49.2%, beating incumbent Amy Sue Vruwink 52.8%-47.2%. Democrats also lost AD-75 held by Stephen Smith 54.9%-45.1%. This was excepted as Smith only won in 2012 because his opponent made a Akin/Murdock like rape remark and Obama only got 48.1% in the District in 2012. The most shocking loss imo, was Mandy Wright losing in the 85th District 50.2%-49.8%. This district was actually originally drawn to be as Dem friendly as possible in the area, but signs where showing that this district, like the rest in this region, was slipping from the Democrats as Obama only won here with 52.1% of the vote in 2012. Democrats also failed to win any seats for themselves in the Assembly. This again includes AD-51 in the far western portion of the Madison Metro area, which Obama won 59.8%. Republican Todd Novak beat Democrat Dick Cates 47.5%-47.2% in a seat that Obama almost got 60% of the vote. That's how bad the Democrats night was in Wisconsin!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on November 10, 2014, 11:33:05 PM
Burke says she's done with statewide politics, won't run for Governor or Senate. (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mary-burke-run-statewide-again-scott-walker)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 10, 2014, 11:34:46 PM
If only she and the Wisconsin Democratic party realized she didn't "fit the mold" before she lost a winnable governor's race. ::)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 10, 2014, 11:39:30 PM
If only she and the Wisconsin Democratic party realized she didn't "fit the mold" before she lost a winnable governor's race. ::)

She probably did the best that anyone could do, other than Feingold or maybe Kind. The Democratic Party of Wisconsin is awful and we have little to no bench.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on November 10, 2014, 11:53:22 PM
If only she and the Wisconsin Democratic party realized she didn't "fit the mold" before she lost a winnable governor's race. ::)

She did better than expected, all things considered. I don't think anyone could've won this year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 11, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
I always felt Burke was a poor choice. Seriously, democrats, you nominate a school board member for a race that determines whether someone runs for president or not? Really?!? They should have been more intent on courting a top-tier candidate such as Ron Kind or Herb Kohl.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on November 11, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
If only she and the Wisconsin Democratic party realized she didn't "fit the mold" before she lost a winnable governor's race. ::)

That race was not winnable in this year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on November 11, 2014, 08:59:03 PM
For a state that is regularly going for the Democrats in Presidential years, I'm shocked how weak their bench is. Burke may look weak, but she actually ran a good campaign - her ads were far more potent than Walker, and she really had him scared for a while. She might've won if she didn't get swept up in the wave (and that last minute story she got fired for incompetence, but let's not talk about that).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 11, 2014, 11:04:26 PM
Here's the Gubernatorial vote by ward in Madison:
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As usual, Burke won every ward. The pattern looks mostly the same as usual with the two nodes of Republicans on campus and the far west side (and to a lesser extent the far east side). However, this time, the campus area is much more Republican than before. The Badger Herald even noticed (http://badgerherald.com/news/2014/11/10/uw-campus-voted-more-republican-in-2014-than-recent-years/) Walker's unusually strong support. Walker's best ward this time was the 56th ward, consisting of two dorms and the Lucky Building. His second best ward was the 54th ward, which is entirely dorms. The 54th ward has been the most Republican in the past, even though it still moved to the right from 2012.

Walker's margins on the far west side were less impressive though the area remains one of the most Republican in the city.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 12, 2014, 02:56:13 PM
I note that Doug La Follette somehow won again. Hahaha.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Clarko95 📚💰📈 on November 12, 2014, 03:22:46 PM
Obama plz nuke suburban and rural Wisconsin now


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 12, 2014, 03:35:53 PM
Nah, rural Wisconsin can be okay.

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It's suburban Wisconsin that needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth by atomic hellfire.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on November 12, 2014, 04:39:04 PM
I decided to break this down by various political regions.

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Red, Milwaukee County(Pop: 948K):

Burke - 230,997 (62.9%)
Walker - 132,561 (36.1%)

Burke +98,436 votes

Yellow, Milwaukee Suburbs (Pop: 608K):

Walker - 229,966 (72.8%)
Burke - 83,586 (26.5%)

Walker +146,380 votes

Cyan, grouped Kenosha and Racine specifically for bellwether purposes (Pop: 362K):

Walker - 71,272 (52.5%)
Burke - 63,088 (46.4%)

Walker +8,184 votes

Grey, Fox River Valley and areas around it (Pop: 823K):

Walker - 202,741 (58.8%)
Burke - 137,876 (40.0%)

Walker +64,865

Slate Blue, Exurban and rural areas around the suburbs (Pop: 492K):

Walker - 129,708 (63.1%)
Burke - 73,323 (35.7%)

Walker +56,385

Teal, Dane County (Pop: 487K):

Burke - 175,604 (69.7%)
Walker - 73,587 (29.2%)

Burke +102,017 votes

Green, Southwestern Wisconsin outside of Madison (Pop: 478K):

Burke - 96,076 (52.3%)
Walker - 85,144 (46.3%)

Burke +10,932 votes

Purple, Central and Western Wisconsin (Pop: 580K):

Walker - 121,960 (51.9%)
Burke - 109,861 (46.8%)

Walker +11,099 votes

Blue, Northern Wisconsin (Pop: 914K):

Walker - 212,223 (57.5%)
Burke - 151,144 (41.0%)

Walker +61,079 votes

Overall: Walker +137,607 votes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 12, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Good work ElectionsGuy!

I don't know if I would group the counties the same way, but it does show what the two sides need to do to win. Obama won the state in 2008 by winning every region but the Milwaukee Suburbs and the Milwaukee Exurbs. However in a much closer race in 2012, we see what a Democrat needs to do to win. Dane and Milwaukee Counties will always be there for them, especially in the hyper partisan environment that we are currently in. They then need get decent margins in Southwestern Wisconsin (better than Burke did) and win the Central-West and Southeast (Kenosha/Racine) region (unlike Burke). The final thing that needs to happen is the Democrat needs to keep the margins close in the North (an old Democratic region that is moving away, other than the Lake Superior shoreline which is more like Northeast Minneosta) and the Fox River Valley (old Republican stronghold that has gotten somewhat more competitive). Obviously the scenario is reversed for a Republican and that is exactly what Walker did in all three elections, do a varying degree.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on November 12, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
wow those Milwaukee suburbs really carried Walker's margin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 12, 2014, 06:41:22 PM
wow those Milwaukee suburbs really carried Walker's margin.

The thing is those margins can't carry the state for Republicans. Dane + Milwaukee = WOW counties + Exurban Counties in almost every election. So in almost every election those four regions with wash each other out. That's why it is the rest of the state that determines who wins. This is why Walker has won 3 times and Obama has won twice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Clarko95 📚💰📈 on November 12, 2014, 09:07:43 PM

Yellow, Milwaukee Suburbs (Pop: 608K):

Walker - 229,966 (72.8%)
Burke - 83,586 (26.5%)

Walker +146,380 votes

Overall: Walker +137,607 votes

Fire up the B-52s, boys.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on November 12, 2014, 09:36:11 PM
The area that really stands out for Walker is the Fox Valley. Brown and Outagamie are kind of swing counties, but Walker won them by huge margins.

He also did well in the North Woods. Madison, MKE, the WOW Counties, and East-Central Wisconsin all voted as they normally do.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on November 14, 2014, 11:46:45 AM
Much of out state does tend to be pro incumbent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: pbrower2a on November 18, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
He shoots up to the top tier of potential GOP nominees. The people who most matter in GOP politics, the Koch family, have likely found him 'their finest pupil'.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on December 05, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
Here's the two-party average by county from the four statewide races; Republicans won the overall vote by about 3%:

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And the statewide PVI for each county:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on December 05, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Nice work Miles!

I believe Washburn County on the PVI map is wrong, it never went above 55% R.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on December 05, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
^ Thanks.

Turnout was up in every county:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on January 09, 2015, 10:23:06 PM
Dave has posted the map of the 2014 gubernatorial election by municipality to the Atlas blog.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on January 09, 2015, 10:41:42 PM
Dave has posted the map of the 2014 gubernatorial election by municipality to the Atlas blog.

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:D :o


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on January 09, 2015, 11:49:04 PM
Holy cow! Did Walker actually win the city of Green Bay!?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 09, 2015, 11:51:43 PM
Holy cow! Did Walker actually win the city of Green Bay!?

Not that surprising seeing as how Bush almost won it in 2004.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on January 10, 2015, 09:02:04 PM
Holy cow! Did Walker actually win the city of Green Bay!?

I almost forgot, but I tabulated the results of the biggest cities in this thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=203523.0).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Torie on January 26, 2015, 09:41:49 AM
Did Walker carry the WI-03 CD? It looks close to me.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on January 26, 2015, 09:45:54 AM
Did Walker carry the WI-03 CD? It looks close to me.

Yes he did. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205317.msg4441059#msg4441059)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Torie on January 26, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
Did Walker carry the WI-03 CD? It looks close to me.

Yes he did. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205317.msg4441059#msg4441059)

Thanks. Here are my numbers lifted from the WI elections website (maybe a few more votes drifted in after these numbers were put up). Interestingly, the host of Pub gerrymandering county chops for this CD were worth about one point of PVI.

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The CD might be in play if Kind vacates. It trended Pub 2.8% in PVI from 2008 to 2012, and if that trend repeats in 2016, its PVI will be down to a Dem PVI of 1% (from about a 3.5% PVI in the 2012 election). The Dem rather unusual hold on more rural and smaller town based lower middle to working class whites in this part of the Mississippi Valley (Iowa too), seems to be eroding some at the moment. The Pubs might wish now that WI-07 has trended so hard Pub (also about 2.8% in PVI), and Duffy is so well ensconced, that they had not gone there. :P

Below are maps of the current WI03 and WI-07, and one that gets rid of the chops and smooths out the lines (the revised WI-03 kind of has a tornado shape, doesn't it?), making WI-03 0.7% more Pub in PVI per 2008 numbers, and WI-07 0.7% less Pub. The Pubs did a lot of chops and erosity for not much, which now appears counterproductive politically for them. Kind of sweet justice in a way, just like the Dems' "dummymander" in Illinois. :)

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on January 26, 2015, 01:28:54 PM
^ It looks like I had a few precincts in the wrong CD, but FWIW, we're 6 votes off on Walker's total in CD3.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on January 28, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
Did Walker carry the WI-03 CD? It looks close to me.

Yes he did. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=205317.msg4441059#msg4441059)

Thanks. Here are my numbers lifted from the WI elections website (maybe a few more votes drifted in after these numbers were put up). Interestingly, the host of Pub gerrymandering county chops for this CD were worth about one point of PVI.

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The CD might be in play if Kind vacates. It trended Pub 2.8% in PVI from 2008 to 2012, and if that trend repeats in 2016, its PVI will be down to a Dem PVI of 1% (from about a 3.5% PVI in the 2012 election). The Dem rather unusual hold on more rural and smaller town based lower middle to working class whites in this part of the Mississippi Valley (Iowa too), seems to be eroding some at the moment. The Pubs might wish now that WI-07 has trended so hard Pub (also about 2.8% in PVI), and Duffy is so well ensconced, that they had not gone there. :P

Below are maps of the current WI03 and WI-07, and one that gets rid of the chops and smooths out the lines (the revised WI-03 kind of has a tornado shape, doesn't it?), making WI-03 0.7% more Pub in PVI per 2008 numbers, and WI-07 0.7% less Pub. The Pubs did a lot of chops and erosity for not much, which now appears counterproductive politically for them. Kind of sweet justice in a way, just like the Dems' "dummymander" in Illinois. :)

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One caveat I'd like to throw in here is that you can't trust 2008 presidential numbers in Wisconsin to be indicative of much of anything. A 2008-2012 Republican trend is most likely just a reversion to the mean in prior presidential elections in the rural parts of the state. There has been a lot of discussion about the trends in SW Wisconsin in favor of the Dems and NW Wisconsin in favor of the Republicans (compare 2012 to 2004 or 2000). I wouldn't be shocked to see everything north of La Crosse except for the city of Eau Claire and Portage Counties become Republican territory in the near future.

But the real key to WI-3 is to find a moderate Republican who has the right kind of crossover appeal. We do have a lot of state legislators from this area. But it's super-elastic and certainly won't be safe for us or particularly close against Kind.

As for Duffy, while it was made safer than probably necessary for him, it was made to make sure he could survive a wave. The Republicans wanted to make sure they could still get 5 congressmen out of Wisconsin in another 2008 scenario. Duffy still isn't completely safe in a wave because of just how swingy the rural parts of the state are, though most people agree the long term trends are in Duffy's favor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2015, 08:50:56 AM
One caveat I'd like to throw in here is that you can't trust 2008 presidential numbers in Wisconsin to be indicative of much of anything. A 2008-2012 Republican trend is most likely just a reversion to the mean in prior presidential elections in the rural parts of the state. There has been a lot of discussion about the trends in SW Wisconsin in favor of the Dems and NW Wisconsin in favor of the Republicans (compare 2012 to 2004 or 2000). I wouldn't be shocked to see everything north of La Crosse except for the city of Eau Claire and Portage Counties become Republican territory in the near future.

But the real key to WI-3 is to find a moderate Republican who has the right kind of crossover appeal. We do have a lot of state legislators from this area. But it's super-elastic and certainly won't be safe for us or particularly close against Kind.

As for Duffy, while it was made safer than probably necessary for him, it was made to make sure he could survive a wave. The Republicans wanted to make sure they could still get 5 congressmen out of Wisconsin in another 2008 scenario. Duffy still isn't completely safe in a wave because of just how swingy the rural parts of the state are, though most people agree the long term trends are in Duffy's favor.

I agree a lot with this analysis. Really one could view 08 as the high watermark for Democrats in the state and 10 as the high watermark for Republicans. I agree that in most typical elections, north of La Crosse, the only automatic counties for Democrats will be Eau Claire and Portage Counties (along with the Lake Superior counties of Ashland, Bayfield and Douglas, but those are automatics).

Yet it would really depend on the type of election to really judge the others. Races were the Democrat wins is gonna involve them carrying almost all of the counties near the Mississippi River (Buffalo, Jackson, Pepin, and Trempealeau), counties with a University town (Dunn and in a very good year Pierce), and your occasional Northwoods county (Chippewa, Lincoln, Sawyer, Price or Washburn).

The 3rd won't be close as long as Ron Kind is around, but it's becoming more and more likely he's gonna run for the Senate or Governor in the near future. I think the Republicans could only win this district if it was a midterm election and they clearly nominated someone that was a moderate like former their former Congressman Steve Gunderson. Yet because of how the seat was drawn, Democrats do have a pretty good bench in this district. State Senators Julie Lassa, Jennifer Shilling and Kathleen Vinehout would all be pretty strong candidates with with a good base of support in the district.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Torie on January 28, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
Off topic here I know, but below is a "contest" map using Muon2's rules more or less, respecting defined metro areas, avoiding highway cuts where possible (thus the chop of Shawano Cty, which could have been avoided by WI-08 taking Florence and Menominee Counties, but at the cost of about 5 more highway cuts), and the like. What's interesting, is that other than hyper Pub WI-05, which becomes even more so, and WI-01, which moves into the uber competitive category using 2008 numbers, nothing much changes, with the swing CD's moving less than a point in PVI. The  Pub "gerrymander," other than moving WI-01 (it's all about Ryan baby) a couple of points to the Pub side, was close to being all sound and fury signifying next to nothing. A "fair" map ends up to being close to the same place politically.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on January 30, 2015, 08:56:03 AM
Some Stronger Rumblings That Feingold May Run Against Johnson In 2016 (http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Feingold-may-be-eying-return-to-Senate-290138061.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on January 30, 2015, 09:03:00 AM
Ron Johnson has grown on me some, but I have an affection for Russ Feingold too, so this election would be quite a hard pick for me - a rare thing in politics.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on January 30, 2015, 12:57:05 PM
Some Stronger Rumblings That Feingold May Run Against Johnson In 2016 (http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/Feingold-may-be-eying-return-to-Senate-290138061.html)

Spectacular news!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 01, 2015, 12:44:33 AM
Walker v Burke by State Assembly District

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 01, 2015, 01:46:11 AM
2014 Assembly Elections. Notice the large amounts of uncontested seats.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 14, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
Protests are brewing again in Madison over Walker's proposed $300 million cut to the UW system

Temp at time of protest: 3 degrees fahrenheit

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Flake on February 15, 2015, 11:51:12 AM
2014 Assembly Elections. Notice the large amounts of uncontested seats.

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we win


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 19, 2015, 07:15:59 PM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on February 19, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)

Is it...is it happening?!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Panda Express on February 19, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Revenge time


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on February 19, 2015, 09:17:24 PM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)
That title made me think he was leaving Wisconsin. :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on February 20, 2015, 02:37:23 AM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)

Is it...is it happening?!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on February 20, 2015, 07:24:32 AM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)
That title made me think he was leaving Wisconsin. :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 20, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 20, 2015, 12:23:47 PM
Walker will sign the RTW bill that will be on his desk shortly. (https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/568818081054633984)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on February 20, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Hopefully they dont throw in exemptions for republican leaning unions like they were talking about doing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2015, 01:50:51 PM
Hopefully they dont throw in exemptions for republican leaning unions like they were talking about doing.

 Will exclude police and fire unions (https://twitter.com/news3jessica/status/568841138725109760)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: IceSpear on February 20, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
Walker will sign the RTW bill that will be on his desk shortly. (https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/568818081054633984)

I'm surprised it took this long. No difference between the parties though. Mary Burke/Hillary Clinton would do the same thing!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on February 20, 2015, 05:30:29 PM
Hopefully they dont throw in exemptions for republican leaning unions like they were talking about doing.

 Will exclude police and fire unions (https://twitter.com/news3jessica/status/568841138725109760)

I'm generally positive about RTW, but these stupid exemptions kind of bug me. Why not be consistent?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2015, 05:35:16 PM
Hopefully they dont throw in exemptions for republican leaning unions like they were talking about doing.

 Will exclude police and fire unions (https://twitter.com/news3jessica/status/568841138725109760)

I'm generally positive about RTW, but these stupid exemptions kind of bug me. Why not be consistent?

You don't want to piss off your allies and donors. Even though both the Fire and Police Unions supported the protesters in 2011, even after having their collective bargaining rights preserve.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 20, 2015, 05:46:39 PM
Pubs confident about Johnson's chances while prep is underway. (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414118/ron-johnson-ready-already-2016-joel-gehrke)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 20, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
Both sides expect Feingold to run, Dems think he'll announce in late spring or early summer.  (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/wisconsin-readies-for-russ-feingold-s-return-20150220)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Brewer on February 20, 2015, 10:52:27 PM
Feingold leaving State. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/russ-feingold-senate_n_6716976.html?1424389789)
That title made me think he was leaving Wisconsin. :P

Yeah, that was quite a scare. :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Illini on February 21, 2015, 11:00:04 AM
Walker will sign the RTW bill that will be on his desk shortly. (https://twitter.com/SykesCharlie/status/568818081054633984)

HG!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Free Bird on February 21, 2015, 01:35:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 21, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE

Good to know that the continual decline in the middle class makes you excited.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Free Bird on February 21, 2015, 02:42:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE

Good to know that the continual decline in the middle class makes you excited.

I'm more excited that one of the biggest proponents of civil liberties will return and grow that group. One alone, as Lizzy has demonstrated, cannot singlehandedly shift the economy, especially since Republicans will probably still stay in charge.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: NerdyBohemian on February 21, 2015, 08:41:20 PM
Hopefully they dont throw in exemptions for republican leaning unions like they were talking about doing.

 Will exclude police and fire unions (https://twitter.com/news3jessica/status/568841138725109760)

I'm generally positive about RTW, but these stupid exemptions kind of bug me. Why not be consistent?

Police and firefighters are manly man work. Teaching is woman's work.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 25, 2015, 04:26:46 PM
Fitzgerald says he has the votes to pass it in the Senate. Republicans control the chamber 18-14 and Fitzgerald has said 17 from his caucus will vote for it. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/dems-call-on-gop-moderates-to-stand-up-against-right/article_6527136e-6c82-55f0-b358-88b761944bf8.html)

Interested to see what Republican votes Nay.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on February 25, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
Passing this will be great, plus it was have an unintended side effect. Helping Barrett beat the racist and insane Alderman Joe Davis and the racist and insane Alderman "Bathroom" Bob Donovan in April 2016. Can't believe I'm rotting for Barrett but he's working with the business leaders an making Milwaukee boom. Plus we also have the streetcar passed and both of the other yahoos (Davis and "Bathroom" Bob oppose it).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 26, 2015, 01:10:21 AM
Bill passes the Senate, 17-15. Sen. Jerry Petrowski of Marathon is the only Republican to vote against it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: windjammer on February 26, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
Not surprising.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 26, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
Feingold reaching out to supporters. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/russ-feingold-_n_6761946.html?1424979201)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 26, 2015, 05:19:50 PM
Feingold reaching out to supporters. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/russ-feingold-_n_6761946.html?1424979201)

Awesome! That being said, hopefully he has learned from his crappy campaign in 2010.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on February 26, 2015, 06:21:01 PM
Walker Compares Labor Unions and ISIS (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/scott-walker-cpac_n_6756724.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: NerdyBohemian on February 26, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
"I'll break up gay unions too."-Scott Walker


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 01, 2015, 11:48:49 AM
Walker Compares Labor Unions and ISIS (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/scott-walker-cpac_n_6756724.html)

He is begining to sound just like Paul Ryan, who's medicare voucher program, anti up Aarp, and didnt get him in 2012, now the Isis-Union comparison will gear up the unions against him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on March 03, 2015, 11:20:46 AM
From Feingold: (https://www.facebook.com/#!/russfeingold/posts/10152804710623215)

Quote
Friends,

As I complete my final week at the State Department, I am so grateful to President Obama and Secretary Kerry for the opportunity to serve our country and represent America’s ideals in one of the most challenging yet promising regions of Africa.

After I leave the State Department this week, I will spend portions of 2015 teaching international relations and law at Stanford University. For most of the rest of this year, I will be living at my home in Middleton, Wisconsin, from where I will travel the state extensively. I will listen carefully to my fellow Wisconsinites talk about their concerns, especially those involving their economic well-being. I will also seek their counsel on how I can best further serve my country and the state I love.


-Russ


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on March 03, 2015, 11:33:24 AM
From Feingold: (https://www.facebook.com/#!/russfeingold/posts/10152804710623215)

Quote
Friends,

As I complete my final week at the State Department, I am so grateful to President Obama and Secretary Kerry for the opportunity to serve our country and represent America’s ideals in one of the most challenging yet promising regions of Africa.

After I leave the State Department this week, I will spend portions of 2015 teaching international relations and law at Stanford University. For most of the rest of this year, I will be living at my home in Middleton, Wisconsin, from where I will travel the state extensively. I will listen carefully to my fellow Wisconsinites talk about their concerns, especially those involving their economic well-being. I will also seek their counsel on how I can best further serve my country and the state I love.


-Russ

Russ..... C'mon.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Free Bird on March 03, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Russ, this thing is basically gift wrapped for you. Come on!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on March 03, 2015, 12:34:05 PM
It wasn't that he ran a weak campaign in 2010, it's that he ran his same campaign of being true to himself and not taking corporate money. I feel like he would get a great deal of criticism if he went back on that against Ron Johnson.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Free Bird on March 04, 2015, 03:00:06 PM
It wasn't that he ran a weak campaign in 2010, it's that he ran his same campaign of being true to himself and not taking corporate money. I feel like he would get a great deal of criticism if he went back on that against Ron Johnson.

So his pride did him in


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on March 04, 2015, 03:04:19 PM
It wasn't that he ran a weak campaign in 2010, it's that he ran his same campaign of being true to himself and not taking corporate money. I feel like he would get a great deal of criticism if he went back on that against Ron Johnson.

So his pride did him in

I wouldn't say pride, I'd say principle. And honestly, I feel Feingold can't really go below 46% of the vote because of that pledge. I admire him for it, taking a principled stand and taking it seriously. I wish more people did that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on March 04, 2015, 03:10:27 PM
I just hope he runs and beats the Republican incumbent.  I detest Ron Johnson - seeing him leave the Senate would make my day.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on March 04, 2015, 03:14:11 PM
It wasn't that he ran a weak campaign in 2010, it's that he ran his same campaign of being true to himself and not taking corporate money. I feel like he would get a great deal of criticism if he went back on that against Ron Johnson.

So his pride did him in

I wouldn't say pride, I'd say principle. And honestly, I feel Feingold can't really go below 46% of the vote because of that pledge. I admire him for it, taking a principled stand and taking it seriously. I wish more people did that.

This


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: AmericanNation on March 05, 2015, 07:14:01 PM
Feingold lost because he was a bad Senator and Johnson ran one of the best campaigns ever.  I wonder if Johnson can replicate some of that 2010 perfection.  It is hard to tell because Johnson isn't a politician and has acted as such since he won and he may have been the perfect man at the perfect time, not a amazing campaigner ...at anytime.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Panda Express on March 05, 2015, 07:25:35 PM
Feingold lost because he was a bad Senator and Johnson ran one of the best campaigns ever. 

No, Johnson won because it was 2010.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: pbrower2a on March 10, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
Feingold lost because he was a bad Senator and Johnson ran one of the best campaigns ever.  I wonder if Johnson can replicate some of that 2010 perfection.  It is hard to tell because Johnson isn't a politician and has acted as such since he won and he may have been the perfect man at the perfect time, not a amazing campaigner ...at anytime.   

Corporate money shouted in 2010 and 2014. It won.

It's the Koch syndicate that managed the general fight to transform the USA into a plutocratic oligarchy. Right-wing politicians who obeyed the money won. Now that more Americans know what is stake things can be different in 2016. Mediocrities win in wave elections and can get ousted in the next election.

They had better be, or America might be 'exceptional' mostly in having life-threatening poverty within the First World.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 05, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
NYT on this week's Supreme Court election. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/06/us/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-raises-partisanship-concerns.html?_r=0)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Linus Van Pelt on April 05, 2015, 09:18:44 PM
Having elections for judges is the worst.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: publicunofficial on April 05, 2015, 09:47:31 PM
Having elections for judges is the worst.

True, but try explaining to average people that certain public officials shouldn't be beholden to elections and see if they understand.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 06, 2015, 12:56:14 PM
Feingold lost because he was a bad Senator and Johnson ran one of the best campaigns ever.  I wonder if Johnson can replicate some of that 2010 perfection.  It is hard to tell because Johnson isn't a politician and has acted as such since he won and he may have been the perfect man at the perfect time, not a amazing campaigner ...at anytime.   

Corporate money shouted in 2010 and 2014. It won.

It's the Koch syndicate that managed the general fight to transform the USA into a plutocratic oligarchy. Right-wing politicians who obeyed the money won. Now that more Americans know what is stake things can be different in 2016. Mediocrities win in wave elections and can get ousted in the next election.

They had better be, or America might be 'exceptional' mostly in having life-threatening poverty within the First World.

Because its not like Democrats accept corporate money, having lobbyist influences, or obey special interests. These things only happened in 2010 and 2014, when evil Republicans won massively.

Having elections for judges is the worst.

It really is. Unfortunate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 03:18:58 PM
Luckily Wisconsin has only voted out a siting Supreme Court Justice I think like 2-3 times in its history. Also hoping that the Revenge Amendment doesn't pass.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 07, 2015, 08:51:01 PM
AOSHQDD projects Bradley reelected and the referendum passing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
AOSHQDD projects Bradley reelected and the referendum passing.

You win some, you lose some.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 09:45:59 PM
AP calls the race for Bradley.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 10:13:37 PM
Paul Soglin was reelected as Mayor of Madison, by a pretty large margin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 10:51:26 PM
AP calls the Supreme Court referendum for the yes side.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 07, 2015, 11:26:40 PM
Paul Soglin was reelected as Mayor of Madison, by a pretty large margin.

Not shocking. I even voted for him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 07, 2015, 11:30:23 PM
Paul Soglin was reelected as Mayor of Madison, by a pretty large margin.

Not shocking. I even voted for him.

Not shocking at all, Resnick only won the campus area.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 08, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
Abrahamson has sued, arguing that the referendum should only apply when her current term ends in 4 years. (http://fox11online.com/2015/04/08/supreme-court-chief-justice-sues-over-amendment/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on April 09, 2015, 11:44:08 AM
Abrahamson has sued, arguing that the referendum should only apply when her current term ends in 4 years. (http://fox11online.com/2015/04/08/supreme-court-chief-justice-sues-over-amendment/)

Who wants to bet when she loses this challange she resigns to "spend more time with her family"?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 09, 2015, 11:59:36 AM
Abrahamson has sued, arguing that the referendum should only apply when her current term ends in 4 years. (http://fox11online.com/2015/04/08/supreme-court-chief-justice-sues-over-amendment/)

Makes sense, Wisconsin elected her to be Chief Justice, not an Associate Justice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on April 09, 2015, 02:44:56 PM
Abrahamson has sued, arguing that the referendum should only apply when her current term ends in 4 years. (http://fox11online.com/2015/04/08/supreme-court-chief-justice-sues-over-amendment/)

Makes sense, Wisconsin elected her to be Chief Justice, not an Associate Justice.

Politifact rated that Mostly False (http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/apr/03/greater-wisconsin-political-fund/would-wisconsin-voters-no-longer-decide-who-leads-/). They voted her into the supreme court, they weren't voting her into the Chief Justice position since that's only based on seniority. Wisconsin votes never truely had a say on the Chief Justice position.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: NeverAgain on April 09, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
Welp, the 129 Year establishment of having judges being made Supreme Justices, is now changed so that the Judges decide. There are 7 Republicans and 2 Democrats on the bench... This was not for the "people to decide".


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 09, 2015, 11:10:05 PM
 A federal judge denied Abrahamson's initial request to block Supreme Court referendum (http://host.madison.com/daily-cardinal/federal-judge-denies-initial-request-to-block-supreme-court-referendum/article_9cff2d2e-df0b-11e4-b702-df0c71fe1802.html).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 11, 2015, 09:49:53 PM
2015 Supreme Court Referendum
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2015 Supreme Court Race
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 12, 2015, 08:57:26 AM

...looks like someone only did radio ads in Milwaukee. :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Torie on April 12, 2015, 10:01:16 AM
Abrahamson has sued, arguing that the referendum should only apply when her current term ends in 4 years. (http://fox11online.com/2015/04/08/supreme-court-chief-justice-sues-over-amendment/)

Is being Chief Justice really that big a deal? I mean, on SCOTUS, all the Chief Justice really gets to do that gives the position extra power, is as an initial matter, determine who gets to write the first draft of the majority opinion for the side that has a majority of the votes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 12, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Althouse  (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/was-shirley-abrahamson-reelected-as.html)has analyzed this at length. (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/the-puzzling-argument-shirley.html)



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 12, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
Althouse  (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/was-shirley-abrahamson-reelected-as.html)has analyzed this at length. (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/the-puzzling-argument-shirley.html)

Yup. Abrahamson's argument makes no sense. Even if she were re-elected as Chief Justice, if the constitution changes, she wouldn't necessarily still hold that position. This reminds me of when Cuyahoga County massively overhauled its county charter and a bunch of sitting office holders had their positions taken away from them. Shirley Abrahamson's power as Chief Justice stems from her being given that power by the Wisconsin State Constitution. After April 29th, the Wisconsin State Constitution will no longer give her that power. That's how amendments work.

I must say though, that the voters of Wisconsin re-elected Bradley and passed that amendment makes no sense. I would love to hear a coherent explanation of someone could vote for Bradley and Yes on the amendment. Yet, both passed, so clearly a lot of people did.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Nhoj on April 12, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
Althouse  (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/was-shirley-abrahamson-reelected-as.html)has analyzed this at length. (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/the-puzzling-argument-shirley.html)

Yup. Abrahamson's argument makes no sense. Even if she were re-elected as Chief Justice, if the constitution changes, she wouldn't necessarily still hold that position. This reminds me of when Cuyahoga County massively overhauled its county charter and a bunch of sitting office holders had their positions taken away from them. Shirley Abrahamson's power as Chief Justice stems from her being given that power by the Wisconsin State Constitution. After April 29th, the Wisconsin State Constitution will no longer give her that power. That's how amendments work.

I must say though, that the voters of Wisconsin re-elected Bradley and passed that amendment makes no sense. I would love to hear a coherent explanation of someone could vote for Bradley and Yes on the amendment. Yet, both passed, so clearly a lot of people did.
Believing in retention of judges/not caring but thinking the amendment sounds More democratic/feel goody? Though perhaps you don't think that's coherent reasoning. :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on April 12, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
Althouse  (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/was-shirley-abrahamson-reelected-as.html)has analyzed this at length. (http://althouse.blogspot.ca/2015/04/the-puzzling-argument-shirley.html)

Yup. Abrahamson's argument makes no sense. Even if she were re-elected as Chief Justice, if the constitution changes, she wouldn't necessarily still hold that position. This reminds me of when Cuyahoga County massively overhauled its county charter and a bunch of sitting office holders had their positions taken away from them. Shirley Abrahamson's power as Chief Justice stems from her being given that power by the Wisconsin State Constitution. After April 29th, the Wisconsin State Constitution will no longer give her that power. That's how amendments work.

I must say though, that the voters of Wisconsin re-elected Bradley and passed that amendment makes no sense. I would love to hear a coherent explanation of someone could vote for Bradley and Yes on the amendment. Yet, both passed, so clearly a lot of people did.

Did not know that at all, yeah her argument has no grounds.

To your second point, Supreme Court Justices almost always get reelected in Wisconsin. Since the 1950's, sitting Justices have only lost twice, in 1967 and 2008. I'm not entirely sure why either. My guess would be a mix of low information voters, low voter enthusiasm as the elections are both in the Spring and the off-off-year and I know that Nhoj has said that parts of the state, especially the Northern part of the state, are very deferential to incumbents outside of waves.

Now why many of these same folks supported the referendum is a good question. I imagine that many felt like it was the more democratic thing to do. EDIT: Ha, Nhoj essentially said what I was gonna say.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 24, 2015, 10:55:18 PM
Federal judge clears way for chief justice vote (http://host.madison.com/daily-cardinal/federal-judge-clears-way-for-chief-justice-vote/article_e97ec020-e8f6-11e4-bc60-0338ce58fa62.html).

And the cringeworthy comment of the week comes from Abrahamson's lawyer: “This surprised me because … the loss of civil rights, even for a short time is proven to be irreparable.”


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on May 01, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Patience Roggensack chosen as next Chief Justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/with-amendment-certified-is-shirley-abrahamson-still-chief-justice-b99490999z1-301696271.html).

Some people speculated it would be Pat Crooks instead, but it seems the four conservatives chose one of their own. I like Roggensack and think they made the best choice of the four. She's saying the right things at least.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on May 14, 2015, 08:33:44 AM
Feingold in. (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/598842904447197184)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on August 27, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
Good news guys, the second anti-streetcar petition in Milwaukee has imploded and there's nothing stopping any line expansions in the future from passing. Huge blow for Bathroom Bob Donovan's mayoral campaign, he's going to be crushed by Barrett come April and it's going to be a thing of beauty!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on September 30, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Cross posting here:

Obama/Walker Era Wisconsin

I wanted to come up with the average Wisconsin map since President Obama was elected in 2008. I decided to use all major statewide elections that have taken place since from 2008 onward. I have made three maps from this data. One that adds up the votes from each election in every Wisconsin county and then finds the partisan percentage by dividing it by total votes cast from 2008 onward. The second map takes the percentages for each election and averages them for each county. The third map is a frequency map, showing the percentage each county went for the party/side that won the most times. I am counting non-partisan elections, as there are clear ideological classifications for the candidates in those elections that allow me to categorize them into either the Democratic or Republican camps.

Here are the elections that I used:

2015:
Supreme Court: Ann Bradley (Left) over James Daley (Right) 58.03%-41.89%

2014:
Governor:  Scott Walker (R) over Mary Burke (D) 52.26%-46.59%
Attorney General: Brad Schimel (R) over Susan Happ (D) 51.54%-45.39%
Secretary Of State: Doug La Follette (D) over Julian Bradley (R) 50.00%-46.29%
Treasurer: Matt Adamczyk (R) over David Sartori (D) 48.80%-44.73%

2013:
Superintendent Of Public Instruction: Tony Evers (Left) over Don Pridemore (Right) 61.15%-38.67%

2012:
President: Barack Obama (D) over Mitt Romney (R) 52.83%-45.89%
Senator: Tammy Baldwin (D) over Tommy Thompson (R) 51.41%-45.86%
Governor Recall: Scott Walker (R) over Tom Barrett (D) 53.08%-46.28%
Lieutenant Governor Recall: Rebecca Kleefisch (R) over Mahlon Mitchell (D) 52.89%-46.99%

2011:
Supreme Court: David Prosser (Right) over Joanne Kloppenburg 50.18%-49.71%

2010:
Senator: Ron Johnson (R) over Russ Feingold (D) 51.68%-47.02%
Governor: Scott Walker (R) over Tom Barrett (D) 52.25%-46.48%
Attorney General: J.B. Van Hollen (R) over Scott Hassett 57.79%-42.12%
Secretary Of State: Doug La Follette (D) over David King (R) 51.61%-48.30%
Treasurer: Kurt Shuller (R) over Dawn Sass (D) 53.39%-46.47%   

2009:
Superintendent Of Public Instruction: Tony Evers (Left) over Rose Fernandez (Right) 57.15%-42.74%
Supreme Court: Shirley Abrahamson (Left) over Randy Koschnick (Right) 59.67%-39.44%

2008:
President: Barack Obama (D) over John McCain (R) 56.22%-42.31%

Breakdown of Elections
Number of Elections: 19
Partisan Elections: 14
Non Partisan Elections: 5
Democratic/Left Leaning Victories: 9
Republican/Right Leaning Victories: 10

Statewide Election Percentages
County Totals Percentages: Democratic/Left Leaners 49.41% - Republicans/Right Leaners 49.07%
Average of County Percentages: Democratic/Left Leaners 50.52% - Republican/Right Leaners 48.18%  

County Totals Percentage Map
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County Percentage Average Map
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County Frequency Map
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Kingpoleon on October 08, 2015, 03:23:47 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on October 08, 2015, 03:58:19 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Kingpoleon on October 08, 2015, 07:43:44 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: TJ in Oregon on October 10, 2015, 11:04:26 PM
Governor Walker has appointed Wisconsin appeals court Judge Rebecca Bradley to the state Supreme Court (http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/scott-walker-appoints-rebecca-bradley-to-supreme-court/article_36075f31-6912-59cc-bdc5-3c84bfaa3106.html) to replace deceased Justice Crooks. Bradley is running for a full term this spring, so will likely do something for her chances of winning, though I'm not sure whether it will help her or hurt.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court looks like it will have a very polarized 5-2 conservative majority.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: SATW on October 11, 2015, 12:22:56 AM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


....stop.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Kingpoleon on October 17, 2015, 02:02:11 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


....stop.
What are you talking about?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on October 19, 2015, 09:19:54 AM
Feingold outraised Johnson almost 2:1 this last quarter: (http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/15/russ-feingold-tops-sen-ron-johnson-fundraising/73982158/)

Quote
Feingold took in $2.4 million and had $3.4 million in the bank as of Sept 30, his campaign said. Johnson raised $1.4 million and had $3.5 million cash.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 19, 2015, 01:52:24 PM
Walker Approval: 38% Approve / 58% Disapprove
Republicans In State Legislature: 31% Approve / 60% Disapprove
Democrats In State Legislature: 39% Approve / 49% Disapprove

The number that is really killing Walker is among Independents. 29% Approve / 58% Disapprove and this was the group of people that got him elected 3 times.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on November 24, 2015, 09:05:36 AM
Walker spent an average of 48 minutes a day doing state work during campaign (http://fox6now.com/2015/11/22/records-gov-walker-spent-average-of-48-minutes-doing-state-business-during-presidential-campaign/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Adam Griffin on November 24, 2015, 10:35:23 AM
This looks great for Feingold - Walker is approaching Jindal-like levels of hatred. Too bad there isn't another gubernatorial recall this year!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Gass3268 on December 01, 2015, 02:07:04 PM
State Senator Rick Gudew (18 - Fond du Lac) will not run for reelection (http://www.wpr.org/republican-gudex-wont-seek-re-election-state-senate)

He won in 2012 by only 600 in a R+2 district. Winnebago County Executive Mark Harris (D) has already announced that he's is running. Dan Feyen, who chairs both the Fond du Lac County Republican Party and the Republican Party of the 6th Congressional District, will be running on the Republican side.

This will be probably the only competitive senate districts of the 2016 cycle. If the trends continue in the central part of the state, Julia Lassa might be in a battle in SD-24, but she has always out performed the national mood. Republicans should be very grateful that some of the more competitive districts (SD-17, SD-19, SD-23) are always up during midterms.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on December 01, 2015, 02:11:52 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


....stop.
What are you talking about?

This guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_La_Follette

He's only a year older than Strickland, so it's not like he can't run for Senate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on December 01, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


....stop.
What are you talking about?

This guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_La_Follette

He's only a year older than Strickland, so it's not like he can't run for Senate.

I mean, obviously he CAN run for Senate. But really? What notable accomplishment does he have to his name besides having the La Follette name and getting a whopping 4% in the Governor Recall primary?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Miles on December 02, 2015, 05:19:48 PM
Johnson super PAC launching: (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/former-chief-strategist-launches-pro-ron-johnson-super-pac-216353)

Quote
Sen. Ron Johnson’s former chief strategist has launched a new super PAC to help the Wisconsin Republican navigate a perilous path to reelection in 2016.

Republicans say they expect the group, called Let America Work, to be the central super PAC backing Johnson, who is trailing Russ Feingold by significant margins in several recent polls.

Let America Work will be spearheaded by Mark Stephens, a former executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee who served as Johnson’s chief strategist when he beat Democratic incumbent Feingold in 2010. The former senator is running against Johnson again in 2016.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on December 04, 2015, 01:32:25 PM
Bigger fish to fry, liberals better get their asses out in force to re-elect Tom Barrett. We don't need faux conservative demagogue Bathroom Bob Donovan to be mayor. Will kill the city and will try and kill the streetcar.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: RogueBeaver on January 07, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
Walker considering running for a 3rd term, won't decide for another year or so. (http://www.channel3000.com/news/Walker-considers-run-for-3rd-term-as-governor/37317632)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Mr. Illini on January 08, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Walker considering running for a 3rd term, won't decide for another year or so. (http://www.channel3000.com/news/Walker-considers-run-for-3rd-term-as-governor/37317632)

It's Ron Kind's turn. Love Burke and Barrett but in need of someone new to run against him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: MasterJedi on January 08, 2016, 05:59:37 PM
Walker considering running for a 3rd term, won't decide for another year or so. (http://www.channel3000.com/news/Walker-considers-run-for-3rd-term-as-governor/37317632)

It's Ron Kind's turn. Love Burke and Barrett but in need of someone new to run against him.

Kind would be like Barca, bland old white guys with no charisma, which is also something Barrett lacked. Better options for the Dems in the state though they aren't big names.

As for the Republicans if Walker is out I'd guess Vos or Fitzgerald are the two big names that run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2016, 01:48:34 PM
Walker's approvals are still very poor (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780269976338432)

38% Approve
57% Disapprove

Majority do not want him to run again (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780685174636544)

31% Run Again
61% Don't Run Again



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Bojack Horseman on January 28, 2016, 01:57:23 PM
Walker's approvals are still very poor (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780269976338432)

38% Approve
57% Disapprove

Majority do not want him to run again (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780685174636544)

31% Run Again
61% Don't Run Again



Wouldn't it be funny and awesome if Walker got blanched like that? Wonder if they'd become the first state to repeal RTW.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 28, 2016, 02:14:15 PM
Walker's approvals are still very poor (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780269976338432)

38% Approve
57% Disapprove

Majority do not want him to run again (https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/692780685174636544)

31% Run Again
61% Don't Run Again


Wouldn't it be funny and awesome if Walker got blanched like that? Wonder if they'd become the first state to repeal RTW.

Would need to flip the legislature. The Senate is hard, but possible. However the Assembly is essentially impossible.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on January 28, 2016, 02:40:28 PM
Yeah, Walker vs. Kind would be a D landslide. He might even lose a rematch with Burke.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Young Conservative on January 28, 2016, 10:07:20 PM
Desperately hoping Johnson remains in office


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on January 29, 2016, 12:10:50 AM
We're all assuming that those numbers will stay like that. They can easily go back up after a year or so in time for his re-election. However he is ed if he does nothing about this.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread: 2014 Aftermath and 2016 Senate Speculation
Post by: Maxwell on January 29, 2016, 12:58:04 AM
Is La Follette considering challenging Feingold?

Between those two, I'd prefer the former.

La Follette is rapidly closing in on 80 years old.
He ran in 2012 for Governor.


....stop.
What are you talking about?

and got 4% of the vote in the primary because he's not serious.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on January 29, 2016, 06:31:47 AM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on January 29, 2016, 11:22:34 AM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.

I don't think Kind will run. He might or he might not, depends on who the Dems run against him. Like I've said someone like Lena Taylor or Mary Burke likely lose again. Dems have some good candidates but they might not run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on January 29, 2016, 01:30:45 PM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.

I don't think Kind will run. He might or he might not, depends on who the Dems run against him. Like I've said someone like Lena Taylor or Mary Burke likely lose again. Dems have some good candidates but they might not run.
Except  Kind, who would be the best candidates?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on January 29, 2016, 02:56:03 PM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.

I don't think Kind will run. He might or he might not, depends on who the Dems run against him. Like I've said someone like Lena Taylor or Mary Burke likely lose again. Dems have some good candidates but they might not run.
Except  Kind, who would be the best candidates?

The absolute best candidate would be Abele though I don't think he would run and I doubt he could win a nomination without help. He's socially liberal but more of a fiscal conservative. He'd win the Dem vote and independents and a lot of conservatives fed up with Walker.

Barring that State Senators Erpenbach, Vinehout and Shilling would in my opinion be better candidates. I don't know why everyone thinks Kind is the best candidate, probably since he's from the west and would win it and probably get a victory but he's just kinda bland.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 29, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
Kind is not particularly liked with a lot of movement folks in the Democratic Party. I think he could get a lot of the same complaints as Abele. Personally I would love any of the 3 State Senators that you mentioned or Dane County Executive Joe Parisi. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on January 29, 2016, 06:53:48 PM
Chris Abele/Lena Taylor would be very strong, but I'm not sure it could win a primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on January 29, 2016, 07:01:51 PM
Chris Abele/Lena Taylor would be very strong, but I'm not sure it could win a primary.

Keep Lena Taylor away from any leadership post. She loves to hear herself talk and isn't well liked by anyone.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Bojack Horseman on January 29, 2016, 08:50:46 PM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.

A lot of people said that about Tom Corbett, and while Obama's presence may have made that election closer than was predicted, he still lost by ten.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on January 29, 2016, 09:12:06 PM
Chris Abele/Lena Taylor would be very strong, but I'm not sure it could win a primary.

Keep Lena Taylor away from any leadership post. She loves to hear herself talk and isn't well liked by anyone.

I thought she was the Brian Schatz of Wisconsin, in that Taylor is very popular with the progressive base.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 01, 2016, 11:49:57 AM
Chris Abele/Lena Taylor would be very strong, but I'm not sure it could win a primary.

Keep Lena Taylor away from any leadership post. She loves to hear herself talk and isn't well liked by anyone.

I thought she was the Brian Schatz of Wisconsin, in that Taylor is very popular with the progressive base.

She's a leader in the senate because of how long she has been there. She has also gotten the "crazy black lady" stereotype attached to her, but honestly she is not someone you want to have running. Go listen to her speak about things, lots of sighs, rambling. She likes to hear herself talk. If you want someone who's black who isn't like that Nikiya Harris-Dodd (might have gotten the name wrong, don't want to go check right now) would be a much better choice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 01, 2016, 02:47:02 PM
ISTHMUS: 6 Democrats Who Could Run in 2018 (http://isthmus.com/opinion/madland/six-democrats-who-could-challenge-walker-in-2018/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Dowager Mod on February 01, 2016, 04:38:22 PM
Anyone but Abele, yuck.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 01, 2016, 05:47:39 PM
Even Kind?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on February 01, 2016, 07:20:55 PM
If Clinton wins, Walker will likely be reelected.

A lot of people said that about Tom Corbett, and while Obama's presence may have made that election closer than was predicted, he still lost by ten.

True, but Corbett was cut off pretty early by all establishments of any note. Walker is a beloved figure amongst certain elements of the establishment conservative movement - I don't see them cutting the strings that easy (even if he is less of a "savior" and his ambitions are dashed). Tammy Baldwin will also be on the ballot in 2018, ensuring that a lot of money will be flooded in to Wisconsin anyhow, which could save Walker by default (kind of how like Brownback was saved in Kansas by money flooding in to save Senator Roberts in 2014).

He certainly is vulnerable, even if President Clinton is in an economic malaise; but he can't be counted out. His disapproval ratings are at a peak mainly because Wisconisintes are annoyed that he managed to humiliate them to a national audience by behaving like a gormless nincompoop, but they will probably sink down (unless he picks up a particularly toxic agenda item to run in) to less terribad numbers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Dowager Mod on February 01, 2016, 07:37:43 PM
lol ya even him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 01, 2016, 10:42:27 PM
ISTHMUS: 6 Democrats Who Could Run in 2018 (http://isthmus.com/opinion/madland/six-democrats-who-could-challenge-walker-in-2018/)

You don't want Moore.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 02, 2016, 12:47:18 AM
ISTHMUS: 6 Democrats Who Could Run in 2018 (http://isthmus.com/opinion/madland/six-democrats-who-could-challenge-walker-in-2018/)

You don't want Moore.

Agreed, she wouldn't win. Plus she does good work in the House.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 02, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
Sean Duffy is the only Republican I can see winning here. It's Tilt D if he faces Abele and Toss-up if he faces Kind or Nelson and Tilt R if it's somebody else. Rating this Tilt D.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 04, 2016, 06:49:37 PM
Sean Duffy is the only Republican I can see winning here. It's Tilt D if he faces Abele and Toss-up if he faces Kind or Nelson and Tilt R if it's somebody else. Rating this Tilt D.

I wouldn't try and rate it until early 2018. WAY too long to do anything justice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on February 12, 2016, 09:22:28 AM
Could someone please explain to me why Johnson is so unpopular?  Is it simply because he's Republican?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on February 12, 2016, 01:11:14 PM
Because he's a generic politician in a swing state that has made no effort to distinguish himself from an unpopular Tea Party movement, I assume.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Asian Nazi on February 12, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
He's a very conservative Republican running for re-election in presidential year in a blue state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on February 13, 2016, 06:06:42 PM
Could someone please explain to me why Johnson is so unpopular?  Is it simply because he's Republican?

He's not really unpopular, no one just knows or cares about him much. He's bland. He's never in the news. etc.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Oldiesfreak1854 on February 15, 2016, 09:29:30 AM
He's a very conservative Republican running for re-election in presidential year in a blue state.
Since when is Wisconsin a blue state?  Bush came within a few thousand votes of carrying it twice.  If it weren't for the early call of Florida in 2000, he probably would've carried it that time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Zioneer on February 15, 2016, 12:37:27 PM
He's a very conservative Republican running for re-election in presidential year in a blue state.
Since when is Wisconsin a blue state?  Bush came within a few thousand votes of carrying it twice.  If it weren't for the early call of Florida in 2000, he probably would've carried it that time.

It's still a blue state because it's gone blue every time since 1984. It doesn't matter if it was close, it was still won by a Democrat for 30 years.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: pbrower2a on February 16, 2016, 09:40:47 AM
Senator Johnson is a mismatch for Wisconsin incapable of winning except in an extreme Republican wave. He's one of the dimmer lights in the Senate and nowhere near being a moderate.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Asian Nazi on February 16, 2016, 10:19:12 AM
It's still a blue state because it's gone blue every time since 1984. It doesn't matter if it was close, it was still won by a Democrat for 30 years.

Yeah, by Oldiesfreak's logic, Oregon isn't a blue state either lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort on February 16, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
It's still a blue state because it's gone blue every time since 1984. It doesn't matter if it was close, it was still won by a Democrat for 30 years.

Yeah, by Oldiesfreak's logic, Oregon isn't a blue state either lol

Or Minnesota.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on February 16, 2016, 04:30:31 PM
It's still a blue state because it's gone blue every time since 1984. It doesn't matter if it was close, it was still won by a Democrat for 30 years.

Yeah, by Oldiesfreak's logic, Oregon isn't a blue state either lol

He's a very conservative Republican running for re-election in presidential year in a blue state.

He's a very conservative Republican running for re-election in presidential year in a blue state.
Since when is Wisconsin a blue state?  Bush came within a few thousand votes of carrying it twice.  If it weren't for the early call of Florida in 2000, he probably would've carried it that time.


wrong colours guys. May Leip have mercy on your souls.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 17, 2016, 12:33:27 PM
Wisconsin's Spring Election primary was held yesterday. Here are some of the more interesting results:

Wisconsin Supreme Court
Rebecca G. Bradley (inc)   251,826   45 %   
Joanne F. Kloppenburg   243,190   43 %
   
Joe Donald                   68,373   12 %

Bradley was running for election to the Supreme Court, before being appointed by Scott Walker in October to finish the term of Justice N. Patrick Crooks, who died in September. Walker had previously appointed Bradley to the Milwaukee County Circuit Court in 2012 and the District 1 Court of Appeals in May 2015. Kloppenburg narrowly lost to Justice Prosser in 2011 during the Union protests. These results ended up being much closer then many were expecting for the primary. I imagine the general election in April will be close.

Milwaukee County Executive
Chris J. Larson                  48,258   45 %   
Chris Abele (inc)          47,550   44 %
   
Steve Hogan                    6,541   6 %   
Joseph Thomas Klein            4,685   4 %   

I imagine you could cross off Abele for Governor if he loses in the general.

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett only won by 13%. He should still end up winning in April, but I imagine it will be the closest election running for Mayor.   


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on February 17, 2016, 03:05:06 PM
Not good for Bradley in April, certainly depends on R vs D turnout in the presidential primary, but the total D leaning vs R leaning vote here was a 55/45 split. A Bradley defeat would be a total blow to Scott Walker.

Side Note: This was the first election where I actually voted. A pretty lame first vote :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 17, 2016, 03:15:34 PM
Not good for Bradley in April, certainly depends on R vs D turnout in the presidential primary, but the total D leaning vs R leaning vote here was a 55/45 split. A Bradley defeat would be a total blow to Scott Walker.

Side Note: This was the first election where I actually voted. A pretty lame first vote :P

Congrats on voting for the first time! I remember voting for the first time in 2006 (Governor and Senate elections back in WI). Hopefully things are more interesting on 4/5.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 17, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Larson is an awful human. He's Lipscomb and Marina's pet for the county board to rubber stamp anything they want. County will be bankrupt in a year if he's elected. Can't believe someone who was removed from incompetence from Dem leadership could be supported that much. Abele still has a good chance to win.


As for Barrett he still should win with about 60-65%. Dem primary will help and a liberal city. Should still be a bigger win than his 2004 victory over Marvin Pratt, that was about 54-46. Donovan is insane, he can't win or we're screwed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 25, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
Marquette University Poll
Rebecca G. Bradley (inc) 30%  
Joanne F. Kloppenburg 30%

Walker's approval ratting is relatively the same at 39% approve, 55% disapprove


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 04, 2016, 11:15:25 PM
Wisconsin State Supreme Court 2016 Primary

()

Rebecca G. Bradley (inc) 45% (Blue)
Joanne F. Kloppenburg 43% (Red)
Joe Donald 12%

Wisconsin State Supreme Court 2016 Primary (Combined Liberal Support)

()

Joanne F. Kloppenburg + Joe Donald = 55% (Red)
Rebecca G. Bradley (inc) 45% (Blue)

Obviously not every vote that went to Joe Donald would go to Joanne Klopenburg, but a large majority should. Going to be interesting to see how this race turns out in April, especially with potentially tow competitive presidential primaries on the ballot at the same time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 07, 2016, 01:21:01 PM
Newly appointed state Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley in student newspaper columns 24 years ago said she had no sympathy for AIDS patients because they had effectively chosen to kill themselves, called gays "queers" and said Americans were "either totally stupid or entirely evil" for electing President Bill Clinton. (http://www.jsonline.com/news/rebecca-bradley-called-gays-queers-who-opted-to-kill-themselves-b99682686z1-371276861.html)

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Among the excerpts of three of her columns that have been released are these:

■ "Perhaps AIDS Awareness should seek to educate us with their misdirected compassion for the degenerates who basically commit suicide through their behavior."

■ "But the homosexuals and drug addicts who do essentially kill themselves and others through their own behavior deservedly receive none of my sympathy."

■ "We've just had an election (in 1992) which proves the majority of voters are either totally stupid or entirely evil."

■ "This brings me to my next point — why is a student government on a Catholic campus attempting to bring legitimacy to an abnormal sexual preference?"

■"Heterosexual sex is very healthy in a loving martial relationship. Homosexual sex, however, kills."

■ "I will certainly characterize whomever transferred their infected blood a homosexual or drug-addicted degenerate and a murderer."


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: user12345 on March 07, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
Newly appointed state Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley in student newspaper columns 24 years ago said she had no sympathy for AIDS patients because they had effectively chosen to kill themselves, called gays "queers" and said Americans were "either totally stupid or entirely evil" for electing President Bill Clinton. (http://www.jsonline.com/news/rebecca-bradley-called-gays-queers-who-opted-to-kill-themselves-b99682686z1-371276861.html)

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Among the excerpts of three of her columns that have been released are these:

■ "Perhaps AIDS Awareness should seek to educate us with their misdirected compassion for the degenerates who basically commit suicide through their behavior."

■ "But the homosexuals and drug addicts who do essentially kill themselves and others through their own behavior deservedly receive none of my sympathy."

■ "We've just had an election (in 1992) which proves the majority of voters are either totally stupid or entirely evil."

■ "This brings me to my next point — why is a student government on a Catholic campus attempting to bring legitimacy to an abnormal sexual preference?"

■"Heterosexual sex is very healthy in a loving martial relationship. Homosexual sex, however, kills."

■ "I will certainly characterize whomever transferred their infected blood a homosexual or drug-addicted degenerate and a murderer."
Wow, if you're that hateful in school.... I can't imagine her now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 07, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
I understand that it was 24 years ago and people can change. Still, not a good look.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Dowager Mod on March 07, 2016, 03:33:56 PM
Bradley is a horrible pos, Typical Walker crony.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on March 07, 2016, 09:03:43 PM
Not good for Bradley in April, certainly depends on R vs D turnout in the presidential primary, but the total D leaning vs R leaning vote here was a 55/45 split. A Bradley defeat would be a total blow to Scott Walker.

Side Note: This was the first election where I actually voted. A pretty lame first vote :P

Congratulations on your first vote. My first time was the 2010 general - I had filled out my primary ballot that summer and then forgot to mail it :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 11, 2016, 12:11:23 AM
This is not the type of stories you want in the news less than a month before your election:

Justice Rebecca Bradley left oral arguments early last week so she could give a speech to the Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce (http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/04/rebecca-bradley-left-wisconsin-supreme-court-early-conservative-speech/81336450/)

Rebecca Bradley in 1992: Camille Paglia 'legitimately suggested' women play role in date rape (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/rebecca-bradley-in-camille-paglia-legitimately-suggested-women-play-role/article_28cb63fe-d647-5ce3-b558-3497c8f6f418.html)

In college column, Bradley likened abortion to Holocaust, slavery (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-declines-to-condemn-bradley-anti-gay-college-writings-b99683523z1-371400881.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 11, 2016, 03:27:45 PM
This is not the type of stories you want in the news less than a month before your election:

Justice Rebecca Bradley left oral arguments early last week so she could give a speech to the Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce (http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/04/rebecca-bradley-left-wisconsin-supreme-court-early-conservative-speech/81336450/)

Rebecca Bradley in 1992: Camille Paglia 'legitimately suggested' women play role in date rape (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/rebecca-bradley-in-camille-paglia-legitimately-suggested-women-play-role/article_28cb63fe-d647-5ce3-b558-3497c8f6f418.html)

In college column, Bradley likened abortion to Holocaust, slavery (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-declines-to-condemn-bradley-anti-gay-college-writings-b99683523z1-371400881.html)

The hits keep on coming...

Bradley extramarital affair, role in child placement surface (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/bradley-extra-marital-affair-role-in-child-placement-surface-b99684605z1-371700831.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Zioneer on March 12, 2016, 01:08:17 AM
This is not the type of stories you want in the news less than a month before your election:

Justice Rebecca Bradley left oral arguments early last week so she could give a speech to the Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce (http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/04/rebecca-bradley-left-wisconsin-supreme-court-early-conservative-speech/81336450/)

Rebecca Bradley in 1992: Camille Paglia 'legitimately suggested' women play role in date rape (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/rebecca-bradley-in-camille-paglia-legitimately-suggested-women-play-role/article_28cb63fe-d647-5ce3-b558-3497c8f6f418.html)

In college column, Bradley likened abortion to Holocaust, slavery (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-declines-to-condemn-bradley-anti-gay-college-writings-b99683523z1-371400881.html)

The hits keep on coming...

Bradley extramarital affair, role in child placement surface (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/bradley-extra-marital-affair-role-in-child-placement-surface-b99684605z1-371700831.html)

So she's the worst possible candidate for this is what you're saying. Nice job picking candidates, Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on March 14, 2016, 03:53:02 PM
Last year Ann Walsh Bradley left oral arguments during her re-election and no one made a story of it either. It also wasn't an extramarital affair when you're separated and working towards divorce either.

If Republican primary vote is higher here too it might work in Bradley's favor. Hope she wins, much better than Sloppy Kloppy getting elected. No smear campaign to her really even though she's just as much a pawn of the left as Bradley is for the right in people's eyes. She also thought Lincoln had slaves too which was amusing.

Bradley winning also would be very amusing to watch, Texasgirl and others I know IRL would lose it.

More important though is Barrett beating Bathroom Bob.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 22, 2016, 12:58:12 AM
State Senator Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) will not seek relection (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/longtime-gop-legislator-mary-lazich-wont-seek-re-election-b99691972z1-372994921.html)

She joins Rick Gudex (Fond du Lac) as the second Republican Senator to not seek reelection this year.

Reps. John Murtha (R-Baldwin); David Heaton (R-Wausau); Dean Knudson (R-Hudson); and Tom Larson (R-Colfax), and Andy Jorgensen (D-Milton) are not running in the Assembly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on March 22, 2016, 03:30:56 AM
So, I'm still undecided about this Supreme Court race. It seems like all of the discourse over the past few weeks has just been hit pieces and discussing the past. My initial inclination was that I'm likely to vote for Bradley, but I'm not exactly thrilled that Bradley voted to increase the power of police searches to private property without the owner's permission (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/state-high-court-broadens-police-search-and-seizure-power-b99668123z1-368381721.html), for example. Anybody know where I can get a breakdown of where these two stand in their policy outlook and how they would vote in certain cases? Or has that been entirely ignored this season?

Anyway, Kloppenberg is probably going to win this, 54/46 I think.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 22, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
So, I'm still undecided about this Supreme Court race. It seems like all of the discourse over the past few weeks has just been hit pieces and discussing the past. My initial inclination was that I'm likely to vote for Bradley, but I'm not exactly thrilled that Bradley voted to increase the power of police searches to private property without the owner's permission (http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/state-high-court-broadens-police-search-and-seizure-power-b99668123z1-368381721.html), for example. Anybody know where I can get a breakdown of where these two stand in their policy outlook and how they would vote in certain cases? Or has that been entirely ignored this season?

Anyway, Kloppenberg is probably going to win this, 54/46 I think.

Usually the newspapers have a breakdown the Sunday before the vote. At least that's what I remember from the past.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on March 23, 2016, 05:42:02 PM
State Senator Mary Lazich (R-New Berlin) will no seek relection (http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/longtime-gop-legislator-mary-lazich-wont-seek-re-election-b99691972z1-372994921.html)

She joins Rick Gudex (Fond du Lac) as the second Republican Senator to not seek reelection this year.

Reps. John Murtha (R-Baldwin); David Heaton (R-Wausau); Dean Knudson (R-Hudson); and Tom Larson (R-Colfax), and Andy Jorgensen (D-Milton) are not running in the Assembly.


My senator, really surprised at her not running. Will be interesting to see who runs.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on March 30, 2016, 12:01:42 PM
Results of the new Marquette poll:

Bradley: 40.9%
Kloppenburg: 36.0%

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on March 30, 2016, 12:55:09 PM
Results of the new Marquette poll:

Bradley: 40.9%
Kloppenburg: 36.0%

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L

Please be true! Going to do early voting today to try and avoid a big line on Tuesday. Voting for:

- Abele for County Exec
- Bradley for Supreme Court
- Stauskunas for County Board (both candidates are bad and actually voting for the liberal due to how his opponent really has no idea what's going on/attacking anything being built downtown because "we don't need more apartments" when they're privately funded).
- Incumbents for village board (moderate conservatives) and school board (mostly liberals)
- Either voting for Kasich or Clinton, haven't made up my mind which way I should swing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 30, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
Results of the new Marquette poll:

Bradley: 40.9%
Kloppenburg: 36.0%

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L

That's a huge undecided number.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 30, 2016, 11:24:18 PM
Results of the new Marquette poll:

Bradley: 40.9%
Kloppenburg: 36.0%

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L

That's a huge undecided number.

Presumably much of the state doesn't know who they are. I'd bet a lot of the undecideds undervote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 30, 2016, 11:30:55 PM
Results of the new Marquette poll:

Bradley: 40.9%
Kloppenburg: 36.0%

https://t.co/eifW2aSx7L

That's a huge undecided number.

Presumably much of the state doesn't know who they are. I'd bet a lot of the undecideds undervote.

This explains why we get retention races where only Dane County and the WOW counties know what the stakes are, even if they are on different sides of the political coin. Pretty frustrating considering Wisconsin is supposedly one of the more politically engaged and civic minded states in the country.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 04, 2016, 11:01:13 PM
Walker prepping to run for a third term and keeping his national options open. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/scott-walker-republican-wisconsin-221549)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 01:48:01 PM
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Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol  2h2 hours ago
VERY early indications: Democratic turnout in key towns and cities outpacing Republican turnout. #WisconsinPrimary

Big news in the Supreme Court race if true and it holds.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on April 05, 2016, 02:04:07 PM
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Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol  2h2 hours ago
VERY early indications: Democratic turnout in key towns and cities outpacing Republican turnout. #WisconsinPrimary

Big news in the Supreme Court race if true and it holds.
If democrats win, they retake the control of the SC?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 02:13:32 PM
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Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol  2h2 hours ago
VERY early indications: Democratic turnout in key towns and cities outpacing Republican turnout. #WisconsinPrimary

Big news in the Supreme Court race if true and it holds.
If democrats win, they retake the control of the SC?

No, but it would go back to 4-3. Currently it's 5-2.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 05, 2016, 03:26:37 PM
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Benchmark Politics ‏@benchmarkpol  2h2 hours ago
VERY early indications: Democratic turnout in key towns and cities outpacing Republican turnout. #WisconsinPrimary

Big news in the Supreme Court race if true and it holds.

Hope that helps Barrett win re-election over that piece of filth Donovan.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 05, 2016, 04:38:20 PM
http://fox6now.com/election-results/

This is a good source for local races (scroll down)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 08:05:02 PM
DDHQ Exit Poll:
St Supreme Court Kloppenburg 54% Bradley 46%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: / on April 05, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
DDHQ Exit Poll:
St Supreme Court Kloppenburg 54% Bradley 46%

:D :D :D


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on April 05, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
2% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING

Rebecca Bradley (R, inc.)   21,671   64%
JoAnne Kloppenburg (D)   12,440   36%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 08:44:34 PM
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Daniel Bice ‏@DanielBice  2m2 minutes ago
It's over: @Barrett4MKE beats @donovanformayor for fourth term. He's up 70%-30% with two-thirds of the vote in. #JSPolitics

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Daniel Bice ‏@DanielBice  18s19 seconds ago
Race to watch: Ald Bob Donovan is up only 69 votes for his aldermanic seat in race against Justin Bielinski. #JSPolitics

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Daniel Bice ‏@DanielBice  6m6 minutes ago
Race between @ChrisSAbele and @SenChrisLarson is closer, with Abele up 55%-45% with more than a third of the vote in. #JSPolitics


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: / on April 05, 2016, 08:47:23 PM
20% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
    Rebecca Bradley (I)   199,766   53%
    JoAnne Kloppenburg   179,995   47%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on April 05, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
I'd say that based on those county by county results, Bradley is now favored to win.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: / on April 05, 2016, 09:06:30 PM
Yeah, she's leading by 70,000 now and I don't see that changing any time soon.

What a shame.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 05, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
If Abele and Bradley can hold on, that along with Barrett winning and Trump losing makes it a GREAT night.

Really hope Bielinski can pull it off against Donovan, 29% of that district left. Just leaves my village's school board/village board, hoping the incumbents pull it off. Means none of that village is in in Milwaukee county yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on April 05, 2016, 09:36:40 PM
Still a lot of precincts left in Dane for Kloppenburg.  WOW counties almost done being counted.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 05, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
52% in

Bradley: 574,432 (54%)
Kloppenburg: 482,577 (46%)

Also, Abele and Barrett, the two incumbents in Milwaukee County and the city of Milwaukee, have won.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 05, 2016, 10:02:36 PM
55% in

Bradley             54% 601,161
Kloppenburg      46% 512,154


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Miles on April 05, 2016, 10:16:15 PM
We called it for Bradley at DDHQ.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Good to know Wisconsin doesn't care about AIDS victims.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: / on April 05, 2016, 10:22:39 PM
Good to know Wisconsin doesn't care about AIDS victims.

^


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 05, 2016, 10:32:49 PM

lol. A horrible comment 24 years ago is TOTALLY relevant to being a justice on a state supreme court. Totally.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 05, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
71% in, Bradley's lead back up to just under 80,000 again. Looks like she should pull this off!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2016, 10:38:15 PM
lol. A horrible comment 24 years ago is TOTALLY relevant to being a justice on a state supreme court. Totally.

She had a more recent comment, in 2006, that people on birth control are "party to murder." She's a nut.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Miles on April 05, 2016, 11:55:45 PM
Still some votes out in northern counties, here's a map showing the swing towards/against Kloppenburg from '11 to '16. (http://www.openheatmap.com/view.html?map=ZoologerAloeticLaloneurosis) She actually improved in the WOW counties:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2016, 12:04:11 AM
Rep. Glenn Grothman says that Voter ID will help Republicans win Wisconsin in November (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0W8_qn0Aw)

Good to know they're admitting now that it's about voter suppression.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: IceSpear on April 06, 2016, 03:07:11 AM
Walker prepping to run for a third term and keeping his national options open. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/scott-walker-republican-wisconsin-221549)

Not so bold prediction: If he runs, he will be re-elected. RIP Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: IceSpear on April 06, 2016, 03:10:27 AM
Rep. Glenn Grothman says that Voter ID will help Republicans win Wisconsin in November (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0W8_qn0Aw)

Good to know they're admitting now that it's about voter suppression.

The PA House Speaker said the same exact thing in 2012. Fat lot of good it did them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Mr. Illini on April 06, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
Unfortunate that disgusting Rebecca Bradley won over a qualified candidate Kloppenburg.

Bradley significantly under-performed in WOW. Is it because of the focus that was put on her social conservatism?

Good to hear Tom Barrett won re-election. Always been a big fan.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Maxwell on April 06, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
Walker prepping to run for a third term and keeping his national options open. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/scott-walker-republican-wisconsin-221549)

Not so bold prediction: If he runs, he will be re-elected. RIP Wisconsin.

Probably - if a Democrat wins the White House in 2016, which is likely. Sad. I wonder which Democrat sacrificial lamb is going to get 45-47% of the vote this time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on April 06, 2016, 10:35:08 PM
Rep. Glenn Grothman says that Voter ID will help Republicans win Wisconsin in November (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0W8_qn0Aw)

Good to know they're admitting now that it's about voter suppression.

The PA House Speaker said the same exact thing in 2012. Fat lot of good it did them.

By preventing voter fraud, at least to them.

Please stop mistaking this for "honesty from evil Reps, LOL," as they honestly support voter ID laws without an evil ulterior motive, much like most Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2016, 11:38:19 PM
Rep. Glenn Grothman says that Voter ID will help Republicans win Wisconsin in November (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0W8_qn0Aw)

Good to know they're admitting now that it's about voter suppression.

The PA House Speaker said the same exact thing in 2012. Fat lot of good it did them.

By preventing voter fraud, at least to them.

Please stop mistaking this for "honesty from evil Reps, LOL," as they honestly support voter ID laws without an evil ulterior motive, much like most Democrats.

Empirical evidence has proven that voter fraud doesn't exist. It's a meme created by Republicans to suppress the vote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on April 08, 2016, 02:25:48 AM
Walker prepping to run for a third term and keeping his national options open. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/scott-walker-republican-wisconsin-221549)

Not so bold prediction: If he runs, he will be re-elected. RIP Wisconsin.

^^^^^^

WI is one of the worst dem-leaning states.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on April 08, 2016, 06:38:23 PM
Rep. Glenn Grothman says that Voter ID will help Republicans win Wisconsin in November (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0W8_qn0Aw)

Good to know they're admitting now that it's about voter suppression.

The PA House Speaker said the same exact thing in 2012. Fat lot of good it did them.

By preventing voter fraud, at least to them.

Please stop mistaking this for "honesty from evil Reps, LOL," as they honestly support voter ID laws without an evil ulterior motive, much like most Democrats.

Empirical evidence has proven that voter fraud doesn't exist. It's a meme created by Republicans to suppress the vote.

So no one honestly believes it?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: BuckeyeNut on April 09, 2016, 03:11:58 AM
TBH, it does seem highly unlikely any GOP Secretary of State honestly believes in voter fraud.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on April 09, 2016, 11:48:59 AM
Walker prepping to run for a third term and keeping his national options open. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/scott-walker-republican-wisconsin-221549)

Not so bold prediction: If he runs, he will be re-elected. RIP Wisconsin.

Probably - if a Democrat wins the White House in 2016, which is likely. Sad. I wonder which Democrat sacrificial lamb is going to get 45-47% of the vote this time.

I wonder if Tammy Baldwin will lose as well? Baldwin and Johnson both seem kind of doomed right now.
She would be the underdog, but I would say Toss up/tilt rep. She's a strong campaigner (see her 2012 senate campaign).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 12, 2016, 08:59:23 AM
Breakdown of County Exec Race (http://www.milwaukeemag.com/2016/04/06/see-which-areas-went-for-abele/)

Larson won Shorewood 55-45%, tied in Milwaukee and basically got blown out almost everywhere else. Not too surprising, Bernie college kids not voting and Larson not having very good relations with the Black community. Calling Lena Taylor "crazy" and asked if she "had taken her meds" along with prior actions when minority leader and getting a white Dem installed in a majority black leader by campaigning hard in the white suburban parts of the district which turned out in the primary. It's not really spoken of but the Black community has no love for him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 13, 2016, 03:21:05 PM
Breakdown of County Exec Race (http://www.milwaukeemag.com/2016/04/06/see-which-areas-went-for-abele/)

Larson won Shorewood 55-45%, tied in Milwaukee and basically got blown out almost everywhere else. Not too surprising, Bernie college kids not voting and Larson not having very good relations with the Black community. Calling Lena Taylor "crazy" and asked if she "had taken her meds" along with prior actions when minority leader and getting a white Dem installed in a majority black leader by campaigning hard in the white suburban parts of the district which turned out in the primary. It's not really spoken of but the Black community has no love for him.

Looks like there was some Sanders/Abele voters too in some of the more working class suburbs. Both Sanders and Abele did really well West Allis.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 19, 2016, 01:44:26 PM
Walker says he will likely run for re-election.  (http://beta.townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/04/19/exclusive-walker-sidesteps-open-convention-ultimatum-says-hell-likely-run-for-reelection-n2151080)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 22, 2016, 03:54:44 PM
Dems float some potential Walker challengers. (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/democrats-say-they-re-going-to-stop-scott-walker-in/article_1074f17a-dd85-50fa-a693-6c34d98f7718.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 24, 2016, 09:36:13 PM
Dems float some potential Walker challengers. (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/democrats-say-they-re-going-to-stop-scott-walker-in/article_1074f17a-dd85-50fa-a693-6c34d98f7718.html)

Only one who would make a good candidate and choice out of all the names listed is Jennifer Shilling. Better candidates out there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 24, 2016, 10:33:25 PM
Dems float some potential Walker challengers. (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/democrats-say-they-re-going-to-stop-scott-walker-in/article_1074f17a-dd85-50fa-a693-6c34d98f7718.html)

Only one who would make a good candidate and choice out of all the names listed is Jennifer Shilling. Better candidates out there.

I like Joe Parisi as well, but Shilling is the only other good choice they listed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on April 25, 2016, 04:58:25 PM
What about an Abele/Cieslewicz or Abele/Tim Carpenter ticket? Both would rally the progressives to his side without disturbing the suburbs much if at all.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 26, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
What about an Abele/Cieslewicz or Abele/Tim Carpenter ticket? Both would rally the progressives to his side without disturbing the suburbs much if at all.

While I would love an Abele run and victory I doubt it would happen. His victory in April was due to Republicans and independents and he split Democrats/liberals in the city but lost them in the suburbs. Likely wouldn't be able to win the nomination.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on April 26, 2016, 03:49:55 PM
What about an Abele/Cieslewicz or Abele/Tim Carpenter ticket? Both would rally the progressives to his side without disturbing the suburbs much if at all.

While I would love an Abele run and victory I doubt it would happen. His victory in April was due to Republicans and independents and he split Democrats/liberals in the city but lost them in the suburbs. Likely wouldn't be able to win the nomination.

Would Cieslewicz or Carpenter be a strong enough running-mate to get him the nomination?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on April 27, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
Prosser retiring July 31. (https://twitter.com/WisWatchdog/status/725427619894697984)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on April 27, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Prosser retiring July 31. (https://twitter.com/WisWatchdog/status/725427619894697984)
Democrats: James Santelle, Kathleen Falk, Peg Lautschenlager, Susan Happ, Ismael Ozanne

Republicans: J. B. Van Hollen, Adam Jarchow, Cody Horlacher, Dave Heaton


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on April 27, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
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The retirement hands GOP Gov. Scott Walker a second opportunity to appoint a new justice and put his imprint on the state's high court with a jurist who could then stand for election in 2020.

Yeah, his appointment won't be up to reelection until Spring 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on May 24, 2016, 10:16:18 AM
Walker will make his final 2018 decision after the budget's enacted next summer. (http://fox6now.com/2016/05/23/gov-scott-walker-will-decide-whether-to-run-for-third-term-once-budget-complete/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Free Bird on June 07, 2016, 05:39:58 AM
Walker will make his final 2018 decision after the budget's enacted next summer. (http://fox6now.com/2016/05/23/gov-scott-walker-will-decide-whether-to-run-for-third-term-once-budget-complete/)

He can go ahead if he wants I guess


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on June 07, 2016, 06:32:22 AM
Dane County Executive Joe Parisi will run for reelection in 2017.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/dane-county-executive-joe-parisi-to-run-for-re-election/article_ef92e227-6ae7-5af6-86ce-cd65432b7bed.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on June 15, 2016, 01:12:41 PM
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MULawPoll ‏@MULawPoll  3m3 minutes ago
Gov. Scott Walker approval rating: Among all those polled, 39% approve of how he is handling his job, 57% disapprove. #mulawpoll

Lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: IceSpear on June 15, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
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MULawPoll ‏@MULawPoll  3m3 minutes ago
Gov. Scott Walker approval rating: Among all those polled, 39% approve of how he is handling his job, 57% disapprove. #mulawpoll

Lol

I bet he'll still be re-elected. :( #jaded


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Dowager Mod on June 15, 2016, 02:54:13 PM
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MULawPoll ‏@MULawPoll  3m3 minutes ago
Gov. Scott Walker approval rating: Among all those polled, 39% approve of how he is handling his job, 57% disapprove. #mulawpoll

Lol

I bet he'll still be re-elected. :( #jaded
The Democrats will find the worst possible candidate to put up against him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on June 15, 2016, 03:47:46 PM
Quote
MULawPoll ‏@MULawPoll  3m3 minutes ago
Gov. Scott Walker approval rating: Among all those polled, 39% approve of how he is handling his job, 57% disapprove. #mulawpoll

Lol

I bet he'll still be re-elected. :( #jaded
The Democrats will find the worst possible candidate to put up against him.

They'll try and run say Larson or a Burke clone or milquetoast Barca when they have plenty of solid candidates on the bench.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 18, 2016, 01:29:43 AM
"Why would we run Chris Abele when Mary Burke will win over woman and beat him again?"


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on June 20, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
"Why would we run Chris Abele when Mary Burke will win over woman and beat him again?"

Again? He never before.

Democrats best choice would probably be state senator Schilling from LaCrosse. No idea if she'll run though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 20, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
"Why would we run Chris Abele when Mary Burke will win over woman and beat him again?"

Again? He never before.

Democrats best choice would probably be state senator Schilling from LaCrosse. No idea if she'll run though.

I was being ironic.

Also, since you're a Republican from Wisconsin, what's your opinion of Abele?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on June 20, 2016, 10:38:33 PM
"Why would we run Chris Abele when Mary Burke will win over woman and beat him again?"

Again? He never before.

Democrats best choice would probably be state senator Schilling from LaCrosse. No idea if she'll run though.

I was being ironic.

Also, since you're a Republican from Wisconsin, what's your opinion of Abele?

I like Abele, voted for him back in April. Socially liberal and fiscally moderate to conservative. Willing to work with anyone to get the job done. Big advocate of jobs and mental health. Has a strong backing and opposition from different labor unions and members of the black community.

Would give Walker a strong run and likely win if he could get the Dem nomination. Likely wouldn't be able to do it because he's a moderate and has strong opponents. He won in April by landsliding the suburbs and splitting Milwaukee (was 50/50 but he had a slight vote lead). Only lost Shorewood 55-45 (most liberal suburb).

I also don't think he's going to run though but I want him too, but again probably couldn't get the Dem nomination.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 20, 2016, 11:14:54 PM
I like Abele, voted for him back in April. Socially liberal and fiscally moderate to conservative. Willing to work with anyone to get the job done. Big advocate of jobs and mental health. Has a strong backing and opposition from different labor unions and members of the black community.

Would give Walker a strong run and likely win if he could get the Dem nomination. Likely wouldn't be able to do it because he's a moderate and has strong opponents. He won in April by landsliding the suburbs and splitting Milwaukee (was 50/50 but he had a slight vote lead). Only lost Shorewood 55-45 (most liberal suburb).

I also don't think he's going to run though but I want him too, but again probably couldn't get the Dem nomination.

Is there a person ideologically close to or a good ally of Feingold who might run on a ticket with Abele? For instance, Chris Larson endorsed Feingold pretty quickly IIRC.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on June 21, 2016, 06:26:34 AM
I like Abele, voted for him back in April. Socially liberal and fiscally moderate to conservative. Willing to work with anyone to get the job done. Big advocate of jobs and mental health. Has a strong backing and opposition from different labor unions and members of the black community.

Would give Walker a strong run and likely win if he could get the Dem nomination. Likely wouldn't be able to do it because he's a moderate and has strong opponents. He won in April by landsliding the suburbs and splitting Milwaukee (was 50/50 but he had a slight vote lead). Only lost Shorewood 55-45 (most liberal suburb).

I also don't think he's going to run though but I want him too, but again probably couldn't get the Dem nomination.

Is there a person ideologically close to or a good ally of Feingold who might run on a ticket with Abele? For instance, Chris Larson endorsed Feingold pretty quickly IIRC.

While anything is possible Larson's whole campaign was centered round trying to make people believe that Abele was an evil Republican who didn't care about anyone but himself and the rich.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 05, 2016, 09:12:52 AM
The Capital Times: 7 Democrats who might challenge Scott Walker in 2018 (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/seven-democrats-who-might-challenge-scott-walker-in/article_313abec4-c7fb-5556-84f4-87886e032987.html)

- Former State Senator Tim Cullen (Represented Janesville and Beloit)
- State Senator Kathleen Vinehout (Represents Eau Claire and the Northern Dirftless Area)
- Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (Represents La Crosse and the Central Driftless Area)
- Representative Dana Wachs (Represents Eau Claire)
- Dane County Executive Joe Parisi (From the Eastside of Madison)
- U.S. Representative Ron Kind (WI-03, Represents the Western part of the state)
- Exact Sciences CEO Kevin Conroy (From Madison)

As much as I love Parisi, I personally would prefer either Vinehout or Shilling. Democrats need to win the Western part of the state in order to win statewide and they would hopefully be able to carry it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on July 05, 2016, 09:21:46 AM
The Capital Times: 7 Democrats who might challenge Scott Walker in 2018 (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/seven-democrats-who-might-challenge-scott-walker-in/article_313abec4-c7fb-5556-84f4-87886e032987.html)

- Former State Senator Tim Cullen (Represented Janesville and Beloit)
- State Senator Kathleen Vinehout (Represents Eau Claire and the Northern Dirftless Area)
- Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (Represents La Crosse and the Central Driftless Area)
- Representative Dana Wachs (Represents Eau Claire)
- Dane County Executive Joe Parisi (From the Eastside of Madison)
- U.S. Representative Ron Kind (WI-03, Represents the Western part of the state)
- Exact Sciences CEO Kevin Conroy (From Madison)

As much as I love Parisi, I personally would prefer either Vinehout or Shilling. Democrats need to win the Western part of the state in order to win statewide and they would hopefully be able to carry it.
He's going to be reelected, right?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 05, 2016, 09:35:35 AM
The Capital Times: 7 Democrats who might challenge Scott Walker in 2018 (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/seven-democrats-who-might-challenge-scott-walker-in/article_313abec4-c7fb-5556-84f4-87886e032987.html)

- Former State Senator Tim Cullen (Represented Janesville and Beloit)
- State Senator Kathleen Vinehout (Represents Eau Claire and the Northern Dirftless Area)
- Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (Represents La Crosse and the Central Driftless Area)
- Representative Dana Wachs (Represents Eau Claire)
- Dane County Executive Joe Parisi (From the Eastside of Madison)
- U.S. Representative Ron Kind (WI-03, Represents the Western part of the state)
- Exact Sciences CEO Kevin Conroy (From Madison)

As much as I love Parisi, I personally would prefer either Vinehout or Shilling. Democrats need to win the Western part of the state in order to win statewide and they would hopefully be able to carry it.
He's going to be reelected, right?

If Clinton wins I'd put it at 50-50. His approval numbers are the lowest they've been for his entire tenure as Governor, so he'd have to work on bringing that up. I don't think is Presidential campaign or education cuts will be as easy to erase with the common voter as the labor issues were.

If Trump wins I think it is almost an automatic that he would lose.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on July 05, 2016, 01:04:52 PM
The Capital Times: 7 Democrats who might challenge Scott Walker in 2018 (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/seven-democrats-who-might-challenge-scott-walker-in/article_313abec4-c7fb-5556-84f4-87886e032987.html)

- Former State Senator Tim Cullen (Represented Janesville and Beloit)
- State Senator Kathleen Vinehout (Represents Eau Claire and the Northern Dirftless Area)
- Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (Represents La Crosse and the Central Driftless Area)
- Representative Dana Wachs (Represents Eau Claire)
- Dane County Executive Joe Parisi (From the Eastside of Madison)
- U.S. Representative Ron Kind (WI-03, Represents the Western part of the state)
- Exact Sciences CEO Kevin Conroy (From Madison)

As much as I love Parisi, I personally would prefer either Vinehout or Shilling. Democrats need to win the Western part of the state in order to win statewide and they would hopefully be able to carry it.

Of the city mayors, would Jim Schmitt, Dave Cieslewicz, or Tom Barrett be interested in running for Governor?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on July 05, 2016, 01:13:44 PM
The Capital Times: 7 Democrats who might challenge Scott Walker in 2018 (http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/seven-democrats-who-might-challenge-scott-walker-in/article_313abec4-c7fb-5556-84f4-87886e032987.html)

- Former State Senator Tim Cullen (Represented Janesville and Beloit)
- State Senator Kathleen Vinehout (Represents Eau Claire and the Northern Dirftless Area)
- Senate Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling (Represents La Crosse and the Central Driftless Area)
- Representative Dana Wachs (Represents Eau Claire)
- Dane County Executive Joe Parisi (From the Eastside of Madison)
- U.S. Representative Ron Kind (WI-03, Represents the Western part of the state)
- Exact Sciences CEO Kevin Conroy (From Madison)

As much as I love Parisi, I personally would prefer either Vinehout or Shilling. Democrats need to win the Western part of the state in order to win statewide and they would hopefully be able to carry it.

Of the city mayors, would Jim Schmitt, Dave Cieslewicz, or Tom Barrett be interested in running for Governor?

Jim Schmitt is a Republicna, Dave Cieslewicz hasn't been mayor since 2011 (and Soglin is way to old to run). Barrett won't run again and he's likely done as mayor after his term ends in 2020 as well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on July 06, 2016, 01:41:02 AM
I thought former office holders often run for office. In Wisconsin alone, I can think of Russ Feingold, Peter Barca, and Kathleen Falk.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 13, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Nhoj on July 13, 2016, 02:03:40 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 13, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.

The fact the state doesn't even have medical is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on July 13, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.

2018 with Hillary as President in the midterms where Dem turnout will be way down. If he runs it's likely hard for him to lose.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 13, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.

2018 with Hillary as President in the midterms where Dem turnout will be way down. If he runs it's likely hard for him to lose.

I generally agree with this, but I think he would need to get is approvals back up to the mid-high 40's.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on July 13, 2016, 06:08:26 PM
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.

2018 with Hillary as President in the midterms where Dem turnout will be way down. If he runs it's likely hard for him to lose.

I generally agree with this, but I think he would need to get is approvals back up to the mid-high 40's.

There are a lot of disaffected conservatives with Walker right now, the thing is they'll never vote for who the Dems put up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on July 18, 2016, 09:04:48 AM
Walker says he's planning to run for reelection, won't run for POTUS in 2020. (https://twitter.com/TimAlberta/status/755040134224048128)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on July 18, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
Walker says he's planning to run for reelection, won't run for POTUS in 2020. (https://twitter.com/TimAlberta/status/755040134224048128)

:(


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on July 20, 2016, 09:34:45 AM
Tommy Thompson taking a shot at Scott Walker:

Quote
Jessie Opoien ‏@jessieopie  1m1 minute ago Cleveland, OH
Former WI Gov. @TommyForHealth: "you don't run for re-election with a 35% approval rating." @ScottWalker's is 38%. #RNCinCLE #wipolitics

There has been some public bad blood recently between the two as Thompson has not been of Walker's cuts/changes to the UW system.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Dowager Mod on July 20, 2016, 03:26:54 PM
Tommy Thompson taking a shot at Scott Walker:

Quote
Jessie Opoien ‏@jessieopie  1m1 minute ago Cleveland, OH
Former WI Gov. @TommyForHealth: "you don't run for re-election with a 35% approval rating." @ScottWalker's is 38%. #RNCinCLE #wipolitics

There has been some public bad blood recently between the two as Thompson has not been of Walker's cuts/changes to the UW system.
Thompson was a surprisingly decent governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on July 20, 2016, 04:42:26 PM
Tommy Thompson taking a shot at Scott Walker:

Quote
Jessie Opoien ‏@jessieopie  1m1 minute ago Cleveland, OH
Former WI Gov. @TommyForHealth: "you don't run for re-election with a 35% approval rating." @ScottWalker's is 38%. #RNCinCLE #wipolitics

There has been some public bad blood recently between the two as Thompson has not been of Walker's cuts/changes to the UW system.

Ha! Jessie's got him! It's actually 3% above what Thompson alleged!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on September 16, 2016, 07:52:35 AM
Walker says he'll be fundraising next year in prep for 2018. (http://www.wpr.org/walker-says-hes-not-currently-raising-money-outside-groups)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on September 16, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
This little sh*t will likely be reelected (assuming Clinto wins)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on September 18, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
This little sh*t will likely be reelected (assuming Clinto wins)

Probably, but his approval ratings are in the toilet right now and I can't imagine the John Doe leaks are going to help.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on September 18, 2016, 09:37:58 PM
Walker says he'll be fundraising next year in prep for 2018. (http://www.wpr.org/walker-says-hes-not-currently-raising-money-outside-groups)

Huh. I guess he is planning to run for a third term. My condolences to Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Heisenberg on September 18, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
This race will line up with the Senate race. There won't be many Walker/Baldwin voters.
Absolutely. There is a 98% chance the same party wins both.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on September 18, 2016, 11:05:15 PM
This race will line up with the Senate race. There won't be many Walker/Baldwin voters.
Absolutely. There is a 98% chance the same party wins both.
The GOP bench is so short I'm not quite sure about that. Duffy could beat Baldwin as Cieslewicz could beat Walker. Besides that, there's Paul Jadin, a handful of unambitious congressmen, Treasurer Matt Adamczyk, Attorney General Brad Schimel, Robin Vos, and Mary Lazich. The latter two are little known Assembly GOP leaders, while Schimel and Adamczyk only got elected in 2014.

The Democrats have Ron Kind, Peter Barca, Chris Larson, Tom Barett, Mark Pocan, Joe Parisi, Kathleen Falk, Tom Nelson, Chris Abele, and Jonathan Brostoff. Their bench is far, far deeper.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on September 19, 2016, 10:09:21 PM
This race will line up with the Senate race. There won't be many Walker/Baldwin voters.
Absolutely. There is a 98% chance the same party wins both.
The GOP bench is so short I'm not quite sure about that. Duffy could beat Baldwin as Cieslewicz could beat Walker. Besides that, there's Paul Jadin, a handful of unambitious congressmen, Treasurer Matt Adamczyk, Attorney General Brad Schimel, Robin Vos, and Mary Lazich. The latter two are little known Assembly GOP leaders, while Schimel and Adamczyk only got elected in 2014.

The Democrats have Ron Kind, Peter Barca, Chris Larson, Tom Barett, Mark Pocan, Joe Parisi, Kathleen Falk, Tom Nelson, Chris Abele, and Jonathan Brostoff. Their bench is far, far deeper.

Kind and Barca are pretty Milquetoast as is Barrett who likely won't run again. No idea why you bring up Cieslewicz, he's basically a nobody now.

Schilling is the best bet in my opinion to take out Walker, Vinehout would also be a good choice. Other good choices are Abele and Nelson but I doubt either could win a nomination being socially liberal and somewhat fiscally conservative.

As for replacing Walker there's really no one spectacular. Vos probably wants to keep being Herr Vos, dictator of the assembly. Would be a crowded field.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: President Johnson on September 20, 2016, 04:56:33 AM
If Hillary wins, we won't get rid of this fool. Bad!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on September 20, 2016, 07:06:24 AM
This race will line up with the Senate race. There won't be many Walker/Baldwin voters.
Absolutely. There is a 98% chance the same party wins both.
The GOP bench is so short I'm not quite sure about that. Duffy could beat Baldwin as Cieslewicz could beat Walker. Besides that, there's Paul Jadin, a handful of unambitious congressmen, Treasurer Matt Adamczyk, Attorney General Brad Schimel, Robin Vos, and Mary Lazich. The latter two are little known Assembly GOP leaders, while Schimel and Adamczyk only got elected in 2014.

The Democrats have Ron Kind, Peter Barca, Chris Larson, Tom Barett, Mark Pocan, Joe Parisi, Kathleen Falk, Tom Nelson, Chris Abele, and Jonathan Brostoff. Their bench is far, far deeper.

Kind and Barca are pretty Milquetoast as is Barrett who likely won't run again. No idea why you bring up Cieslewicz, he's basically a nobody now.

Schilling is the best bet in my opinion to take out Walker, Vinehout would also be a good choice. Other good choices are Abele and Nelson but I doubt either could win a nomination being socially liberal and somewhat fiscally conservative.

As for replacing Walker there's really no one spectacular. Vos probably wants to keep being Herr Vos, dictator of the assembly. Would be a crowded field.

I agree on Schilling and Vinehout. Both would be acceptable to the liberal base (unlike Kind or Abele), yet they also wouldn't be offensive to middle of the road voters. Also they both come from a region of the state that Democrats have to win in order to win statewide.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on October 19, 2016, 02:15:11 PM
Walker has said he wouldn't run for a fourth term because "his wife would kill him". ::)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on December 08, 2016, 04:04:22 PM
Abele and Cullen out. (http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2016/12/08/murphys-law-state-democrats-could-sink-still-lower/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on December 08, 2016, 09:35:49 PM
If Hillary wins, we won't get rid of this fool. Bad!

We probably still won't. I just want to close my eyes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on December 08, 2016, 09:50:20 PM
If Hillary wins, we won't get rid of this fool. Bad!

We probably still won't. I just want to close my eyes.

I don't know, I think his Presidential campaign and the education cuts might have resulted in some permanent damage. We'll have to see what the Republicans push here over the next 2 years.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on December 09, 2016, 08:32:32 PM
There's a candidate already starting a campaign for the 2018 gov race here. He has some good ideas, including a high speed rail that would connect from Chicago through WI to the Twin Cities.

Anyone heard of him before?
http://bobharlow.net


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Maxwell on December 09, 2016, 08:50:18 PM
There's a candidate already starting a campaign for the 2018 gov race here. He has some good ideas, including a high speed rail that would connect from Chicago through WI to the Twin Cities.

Anyone heard of him before?
http://bobharlow.net

perennial candidate - he ran in CA-18 (no, really) and got dead last.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on December 13, 2016, 02:36:02 PM
Shilling not running for Governor in 2018.

http://m.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/sen-jennifer-shilling-rules-out-run-for-governor-in/article_a92b4891-2392-58b7-a5e9-1ac15ff8cbe3.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on December 13, 2016, 04:18:44 PM
Shilling not running for Governor in 2018.

http://m.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/sen-jennifer-shilling-rules-out-run-for-governor-in/article_a92b4891-2392-58b7-a5e9-1ac15ff8cbe3.html

Not surprising after she barely won re-election, but I think she was the best chance to defeat Walker. Unless something changes in 2 years I don't think Walker can lose.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on December 13, 2016, 04:41:42 PM
Shilling not running for Governor in 2018.

http://m.lacrossetribune.com/news/local/sen-jennifer-shilling-rules-out-run-for-governor-in/article_a92b4891-2392-58b7-a5e9-1ac15ff8cbe3.html

Not surprising after she barely won re-election, but I think she was the best chance to defeat Walker. Unless something changes in 2 years I don't think Walker can lose.

It will all depend on the national environment, especially with his approvals sitting in the low 40's.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on December 16, 2016, 10:30:20 AM
If Walker runs for reelection, I think he stands a worse chance of winning than a generic R (like Duffy or Gallagher). Of course, the Dem bench is thinner... and they cannot nominate someone from Milwaukee or Madison. Vinehout seems to be the best choice, IMHO, unless God is real and Aaron Rodgers runs.

Baldwin, ironically, is probably a lot safer because of Trump. I assume Duffy, Grothman or Clarke will be the GOP nominee for Senate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on December 16, 2016, 10:46:36 AM
If Walker runs for reelection, I think he stands a worse chance of winning than a generic R (like Duffy or Gallagher). Of course, the Dem bench is thinner... and they cannot nominate someone from Milwaukee or Madison. Vinehout seems to be the best choice, IMHO, unless God is real and Aaron Rodgers runs.

Baldwin, ironically, is probably a lot safer because of Trump. I assume Duffy, Grothman or Clarke will be the GOP nominee for Senate.

Duffy would have a shot, Grothman or Clarke would get slaughtered.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Heisenberg on December 16, 2016, 11:03:52 AM
^Grothman.. yeah, probably. Clarke? Nah. There aren't many Republicans who would get slaughtered in a midterm year in Wisconsin.
Growthman should get primaried, maybe by Scott Fitzgerald or someone. He comes across as an idiot.
Duffy should run next time, and then Gallagher runs for Johnson's seat in 2022. I like both, and they'd make a good young Senate duo that would stick around for decades and become entrenched quickly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on December 17, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
^Grothman.. yeah, probably. Clarke? Nah. There aren't many Republicans who would get slaughtered in a midterm year in Wisconsin.

Clarke would probably lose in a midterm year by about 15 points (maybe 8-12 if it's a 2014-level Republican wave and he's facing a weak Democrat).  I could easily see him losing in a Presidential year by 18-20% if he's facing a strong Democratic candidate or it is a mildy Democratic-leaning cycle (ex: 2012-type environment).  I think the fact that we've have had two large, back-to-back Republican waves has caused some folks to mistake 2014 (or even 2010) style midterms as the norm.  Just as Republicans had a bonafide wave election in 2016 despite it being a Presidential year (and one that could easily be no more than a fluke).  Regardless of what happens in the Senate, given how reliant their house majority is on gerrymandering and how many Governorships are up, the Republicans should be terrified by the prospect of a potential 2018 Democratic wave.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on December 18, 2016, 06:47:51 PM
^Grothman.. yeah, probably. Clarke? Nah. There aren't many Republicans who would get slaughtered in a midterm year in Wisconsin.

Clarke would probably lose in a midterm year by about 15 points (maybe 8-12 if it's a 2014-level Republican wave and he's facing a weak Democrat).  I could easily see him losing in a Presidential year by 18-20% if he's facing a strong Democratic candidate or it is a mildy Democratic-leaning cycle (ex: 2012-type environment).  I think the fact that we've have had two large, back-to-back Republican waves has caused some folks to mistake 2014 (or even 2010) style midterms as the norm.  Just as Republicans had a bonafide wave election in 2016 despite it being a Presidential year (and one that could easily be no more than a fluke).  Regardless of what happens in the Senate, given how reliant their house majority is on gerrymandering and how many Governorships are up, the Republicans should be terrified by the prospect of a potential 2018 Democratic wave.

Clarke wins because his primary is in February, runs as D and gets a lot of crossover support with no contested D primaries in the county at the same time. He also does get a fair amount of Black Dems to vote for him just because he's black. Just to clarify, the north side voted for the conservative over the actual liberal because they were black in the DA election and the conservative burbs voted for the liberal DA because she was unqualified. He has been squeaking by the primaries, someone needs to defeat him in 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on December 18, 2016, 07:06:33 PM
^Grothman.. yeah, probably. Clarke? Nah. There aren't many Republicans who would get slaughtered in a midterm year in Wisconsin.
Growthman should get primaried, maybe by Scott Fitzgerald or someone. He comes across as an idiot.
Duffy should run next time, and then Gallagher runs for Johnson's seat in 2022. I like both, and they'd make a good young Senate duo that would stick around for decades and become entrenched quickly.

Sean Duffy is just as big an idiot as Grothman. He's just more subtle.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on December 18, 2016, 07:09:42 PM
^Grothman.. yeah, probably. Clarke? Nah. There aren't many Republicans who would get slaughtered in a midterm year in Wisconsin.

Clarke would probably lose in a midterm year by about 15 points (maybe 8-12 if it's a 2014-level Republican wave and he's facing a weak Democrat).  I could easily see him losing in a Presidential year by 18-20% if he's facing a strong Democratic candidate or it is a mildy Democratic-leaning cycle (ex: 2012-type environment).  I think the fact that we've have had two large, back-to-back Republican waves has caused some folks to mistake 2014 (or even 2010) style midterms as the norm.  Just as Republicans had a bonafide wave election in 2016 despite it being a Presidential year (and one that could easily be no more than a fluke).  Regardless of what happens in the Senate, given how reliant their house majority is on gerrymandering and how many Governorships are up, the Republicans should be terrified by the prospect of a potential 2018 Democratic wave.

Clarke wins because his primary is in February, runs as D and gets a lot of crossover support with no contested D primaries in the county at the same time. He also does get a fair amount of Black Dems to vote for him just because he's black. Just to clarify, the north side voted for the conservative over the actual liberal because they were black in the DA election and the conservative burbs voted for the liberal DA because she was unqualified. He has been squeaking by the primaries, someone needs to defeat him in 2020.

I meant if he ran in a statewide race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: peterthlee on December 27, 2016, 08:11:37 AM
Is there any chances for Russ Feingold to change track, if he is energetic enough to go through the trauma of two consecutive defeats of his senate seat?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on December 27, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
Is there any chances for Russ Feingold to change track, if he is energetic enough to go through the trauma of two consecutive defeats of his senate seat?

Zero


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on December 27, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
Is there any chances for Russ Feingold to change track, if he is energetic enough to go through the trauma of two consecutive defeats of his senate seat?

Zero

Possible future Secretary of State in the next Democratic administration would be a good place for him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on December 27, 2016, 12:43:24 PM
Senate (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/12/27/gop-eyes-2018-senate-race-against-tammy-baldwin/95766156/): Duffy has right of first refusal and might avoid a primary. Hovde/Fitzgerald/Vukmir are considering, also businessman Kevin Nicholson. Kleefisch's name mentioned but she doesn't seem that interested.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on December 27, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
Is there any chances for Russ Feingold to change track, if he is energetic enough to go through the trauma of two consecutive defeats of his senate seat?

Zero

Possible future Secretary of State in the next Democratic administration would be a good place for him.

If there is a next Democratic administration.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: houseonaboat on December 27, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
Senate: Duffy has right of first refusal and might avoid a primary. Hovde/Fitzgerald/Vukmir are considering, also businessman Kevin Nicholson. Kleefisch's name mentioned but she doesn't seem that interested.

Checked out Nicholson's bio... McKinsey is going to become (if it isn't already) what Goldman Sachs was in the 90s and 00s in terms of high-pedigree people funneling their way into politics


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Heisenberg on December 30, 2016, 12:12:42 AM
Duffy would probably do better than Trump in the WOW counties but worse in the traditionally Democratic rural counties, unless Trump is really popular.
How? He represents WI-07, the most Trumpy district in the state, and was an early backer of Trump, who never backed down. I think Duffy is the perfect statewide candidate for Wisconsin: He does great in his home district, should do similar to Johnson in the similar WI-03 and -08, while doing well in WOW (pretty evangelical, won't like atheist lesbian progressives). He is also very well-known nationally. I see him on The Situation Room A LOT (his wife also frequently appears on TV). Funny but also very well spoken, and one of my favorite Congressmen. Republicans' ideal candidate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Maxwell on December 30, 2016, 07:29:59 PM
Duffy reminds me more of Patrick Murphy than someone who would run a successful campaign. That's all I'm saying.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on December 30, 2016, 10:20:54 PM
A third consecutive term is very difficult especially if the economy isn't spectacular. Butch Otter is the only current Gov to have pulled it off and his state leans heavily towards his party.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: JMT on December 30, 2016, 11:42:15 PM
A third consecutive term is very difficult especially if the economy isn't spectacular. Butch Otter is the only current Gov to have pulled it off and his state leans heavily towards his party.

But is Otter the only current 3 term governor simply because most governors can't (due to term limits) / or decide not to run for a third term? I feel like thats possible.

Other governors in recent memory have served awhile. Jerry Brown and Terry Branstad served many terms (even though the were non-consecutive). And Rick Perry ran in three elections, and served an additional 2 years at the end of Bush's term.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on January 03, 2017, 08:41:49 PM
Spring primary filing deadline today.  Justice Ziegler of WI Supreme Court unopposed.  Another blow to WI Dems.

Meanwhile, State Superintendent Evers has two conservative challengers.

Link:  http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/two-challenge-superintendent-tony-evers-supreme-court-justice-annette-ziegler/article_8cd385cd-a593-5aac-8e57-f00b97e54ef4.html




Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: The Other Castro on January 03, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Wisconsin terms are 10 years, so this is pretty disappointing for Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 03, 2017, 10:16:41 PM
Spring primary filing deadline today.  Justice Ziegler of WI Supreme Court unopposed.  Another blow to WI Dems.

Meanwhile, State Superintendent Evers has two conservative challengers.

Link:  http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/two-challenge-superintendent-tony-evers-supreme-court-justice-annette-ziegler/article_8cd385cd-a593-5aac-8e57-f00b97e54ef4.html




lol, what a disaster.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Maxwell on January 03, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on January 05, 2017, 07:53:12 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

I've heard that the Wisconsin Democratic Party is notorious for being weak and hell.

I mean, look at the candidates they ran against Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on January 05, 2017, 08:01:32 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Heisenberg on January 05, 2017, 10:54:54 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.
Looks like Wisconsin Democrats are becoming more and more like Florida Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on January 07, 2017, 11:02:58 AM
Before the 2018 elections new state boundaries have to be redrawn so there will be more Dems in office soon. Unless the state Republicans get their way, they're suing in court that they should be allowed a chance to redraw the boundaries again (aka to make them just as bad in different ways).

It really is annoying though, anything that happens is still the Dems fault in the state even with full Republican control since 2010 and people really do buy it. No mention of the supposed surplus from 2012 that's completely gone now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Suburbia on January 07, 2017, 03:50:51 PM
The only Wisconsin Democrats that could beat Walker or Kleefisch or Duffy in 2018 is Tom Nelson or Ron Kind. Kind is a moderate Democrat that could appeal to Walker voters who are disappointed with his second term.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Virginiá on January 07, 2017, 04:39:52 PM
Before the 2018 elections new state boundaries have to be redrawn so there will be more Dems in office soon. Unless the state Republicans get their way, they're suing in court that they should be allowed a chance to redraw the boundaries again (aka to make them just as bad in different ways).

It is actually standard practice to let the legislature have a chance to redraw it at least once. Personally I think it's a insanely stupid idea, regardless of the legal (or other) justifications. If the legislature is still controlled entirely by the same party/most of same people who rigged the maps in the first place, they are just going to try and do it again. It happens almost every time, and when it doesn't, it's usually because they bickered between themselves so much that the court had to step in.

That being said, I believe the plaintiffs have submitted a range of ideas for the court to consider in regards to redrawing requirements to avoid giving the GOP a chance to gerrymander again. Not sure if any will be accepted, but maybe. If WIGOP gerrymanders again, there can always be another lawsuit immediately after 2018 elections (or possibly before).

Finally, it's not guaranteed that SCOTUS will even uphold this ruling. It's not just another gerrymandering case. This was ruled as unconstitutional partisan gerrymandering, and a scotus ruling could have wide implications. Hopefully Kennedy will cross over and support a new standard for partisan gerrymandering and we can begin to break up GOP maps across the country before summer 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 07, 2017, 06:58:32 PM
The only Wisconsin Democrats that could beat Walker or Kleefisch or Duffy in 2018 is Tom Nelson or Ron Kind. Kind is a moderate Democrat that could appeal to Walker voters who are disappointed with his second term.

Jesus Christ...I just googled Ron Kind because I've never heard of him before and the guy is legit the most alpha male looking politician I've ever seen

He is so entrenched in his district that the GOP didn't even bother running a candidate against him. More so, his district is the district a D candidate needs alongside Dane and MKE to carry the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on January 09, 2017, 08:31:50 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.
Looks like Wisconsin Democrats are becoming more and more like Florida Democrats.

The WI Dems have been between a rock and a hard place in the gubernatorial races because a majority of their base wanted to refight Act 10 (the union thing) but the swing voters were/are tired of it. Therefore they've had to either make everything about Act 10 (Barrett) or vapidly pretend it doesn't exist (Burke). If they do the former, they'd tick off swing voters and if they do the latter their base wouldn't be enthusiastic. Thus, the predicament.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on January 09, 2017, 09:52:40 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.
Looks like Wisconsin Democrats are becoming more and more like Florida Democrats.

The WI Dems have been between a rock and a hard place in the gubernatorial races because a majority of their base wanted to refight Act 10 (the union thing) but the swing voters were/are tired of it. Therefore they've had to either make everything about Act 10 (Barrett) or vapidly pretend it doesn't exist (Burke). If they do the former, they'd tick off swing voters and if they do the latter their base wouldn't be enthusiastic. Thus, the predicament.

Interesting. Explains a lot


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on January 12, 2017, 11:56:50 AM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.
Looks like Wisconsin Democrats are becoming more and more like Florida Democrats.

The WI Dems have been between a rock and a hard place in the gubernatorial races because a majority of their base wanted to refight Act 10 (the union thing) but the swing voters were/are tired of it. Therefore they've had to either make everything about Act 10 (Barrett) or vapidly pretend it doesn't exist (Burke). If they do the former, they'd tick off swing voters and if they do the latter their base wouldn't be enthusiastic. Thus, the predicament.

Interesting. Explains a lot

From what I could tell the base seemed to love Burke, especially that she was a school board member.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 12, 2017, 04:56:44 PM
So are Dems in Wisconsin just complacent losers? I'm at a loss for words.

This sounds like something that would happen in Alabama.

Hard to find candidates willing to throw themselves into the Priebus/Walker machine's way. The whole state Dem party looks and acts completely spineless. It's not going to take long before moderates/swing voters start getting used to voting R by default.
Looks like Wisconsin Democrats are becoming more and more like Florida Democrats.

The WI Dems have been between a rock and a hard place in the gubernatorial races because a majority of their base wanted to refight Act 10 (the union thing) but the swing voters were/are tired of it. Therefore they've had to either make everything about Act 10 (Barrett) or vapidly pretend it doesn't exist (Burke). If they do the former, they'd tick off swing voters and if they do the latter their base wouldn't be enthusiastic. Thus, the predicament.

Interesting. Explains a lot

From what I could tell the base seemed to love Burke, especially that she was a school board member.

No, they hated Walker. Burke excited about 4 people statewide. She was a terrible candidate. The options for 2018 are much better.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on January 12, 2017, 05:17:11 PM
Burke was actually considered a pretty good candidate for Ds in 2014, IIRC. IMO, this race is Leans R until proven otherwise. I don't see Walker losing unless it's an absolute Democratic wave year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on January 12, 2017, 07:17:47 PM
Burke was actually considered a pretty good candidate for Ds in 2014, IIRC. IMO, this race is Leans R until proven otherwise. I don't see Walker losing unless it's an absolute Democratic wave year.

Nah, everyone thought she was awful.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: TJ in Oregon on January 12, 2017, 07:57:39 PM
Burke was actually considered a pretty good candidate for Ds in 2014, IIRC. IMO, this race is Leans R until proven otherwise. I don't see Walker losing unless it's an absolute Democratic wave year.

Burke is a walking example of a candidate pundits think is great because she would have a moderate PM score and say things the media likes (ie. a socially liberal fiscally conservative bent) without offending anyone. The problem for her is that she didn't really project a vision for the state. In the nine months she spent running for governor just about the only issues she gave clear answers on were her support for abortion and gay marriage. So there wasn't any real energy for her.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Blackacre on January 23, 2017, 10:42:24 AM
So.... any word from Feingold about a comeback? I'm not asking how well/poorly he'd do, I just want to know if he's at all interested :P


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 23, 2017, 10:45:56 AM
So.... any word from Feingold about a comeback? I'm not asking how well/poorly he'd do, I just want to know if he's at all interested :P

Nah, maybe in a future Democratic administration, but that's it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on January 24, 2017, 08:27:43 PM
Walker throwing out red meat with more 'welfare reform' proposals, last year it was drug testing and now  new work requirements. Expect him to throw out more wedge issues as 2018 nears.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on January 24, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
Walker throwing out red meat with more 'welfare reform' proposals, last year it was drug testing and now  new work requirements. Expect him to throw out more wedge issues as 2018 nears.

He also wants to return education funding back to what it was before the last budget, the one statewide issue that has legitimatly hurt him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 27, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
Burke was actually considered a pretty good candidate for Ds in 2014, IIRC. IMO, this race is Leans R until proven otherwise. I don't see Walker losing unless it's an absolute Democratic wave year.

The dude has a 38% approval rating for Christ's sake. And Dems will be much more engaged by default than they were in 2010/2014 nationwide. This race is about as tossup as it gets without knowing the opponent.

Walker has always been a polarizing figure in a very polarized state, but he knows how to win statewide elections. I'd be shocked if he lost reelection, honestly. I have it as Lean R.

Guy hasn't won more than 53%, and that was during the recall when he had a good story about giving him a chance. Any rating other than tossup is silly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on January 27, 2017, 01:17:09 PM
Court order says that legislature/gov must redraw legislative districts before 2018 election.  State plans to appeal to SCOTUS.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judges-to-state-redraw-legislative-districts-before-election/article_bff10235-7420-57f0-a185-c0f8939ca9b4.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 27, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
Court order says that legislature/gov must redraw legislative districts before 2018 election.  State plans to appeal to SCOTUS.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judges-to-state-redraw-legislative-districts-before-election/article_bff10235-7420-57f0-a185-c0f8939ca9b4.html

I hope this goes through because the gerrymander here is insane.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 06, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
Walker moving hard to the center by proposing $649 million more in school funding in the state's budget.
 (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/05/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-proposes-649-million-more-state-schools/97453582/)

This is a big departure from the last budget that cut public school funding, which along with his campaign for President was one of the key causes for his approval rating drop.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 06, 2017, 11:52:21 AM
He's running for re-election, if he's successful he'll probably cut this and much more again but he's trying to make people think he cares about education.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 06, 2017, 06:25:20 PM
Walker moving hard to the center by proposing $649 million more in school funding in the state's budget.
 (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/05/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-proposes-649-million-more-state-schools/97453582/)

This is a big departure from the last budget that cut public school funding, which along with his campaign for President was one of the key causes for his approval rating drop.

He's the very definition of political slime.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: RogueBeaver on February 06, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
Another hint that Walker's running. (https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/828730976855535616)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: windjammer on February 06, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
Who is going tm run for the democrats?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 06, 2017, 07:53:39 PM

At this point? Literally no one. The strongest candidate barely won re-election to the state senate. Need to pray that Trump and Walker do more awful things for the state to piss enough people off or the Dems have no one.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 06, 2017, 08:34:36 PM

At this point? Literally no one. The strongest candidate barely won re-election to the state senate. Need to pray that Trump and Walker do more awful things for the state to piss enough people off or the Dems have no one.

I assume Kind is not even thinking about it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: krazen1211 on February 06, 2017, 08:45:07 PM
Court order says that legislature/gov must redraw legislative districts before 2018 election.  State plans to appeal to SCOTUS.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judges-to-state-redraw-legislative-districts-before-election/article_bff10235-7420-57f0-a185-c0f8939ca9b4.html

Great news! We can gerrymander much better districts given that the unions have been destroyed and the Wisconsin Democrat party is a rump party in the state. Look how badly that has been Feingold got thrashed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 06, 2017, 09:02:18 PM
Court order says that legislature/gov must redraw legislative districts before 2018 election.  State plans to appeal to SCOTUS.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judges-to-state-redraw-legislative-districts-before-election/article_bff10235-7420-57f0-a185-c0f8939ca9b4.html

Great news! We can gerrymander much better districts given that the unions have been destroyed and the Wisconsin Democrat party is a rump party in the state. Look how badly that has been Feingold got thrashed.

Um, this ruling would make political gerrymandering illegal.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: krazen1211 on February 06, 2017, 09:12:18 PM
Court order says that legislature/gov must redraw legislative districts before 2018 election.  State plans to appeal to SCOTUS.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/judges-to-state-redraw-legislative-districts-before-election/article_bff10235-7420-57f0-a185-c0f8939ca9b4.html

Great news! We can gerrymander much better districts given that the unions have been destroyed and the Wisconsin Democrat party is a rump party in the state. Look how badly that has been Feingold got thrashed.

Um, this ruling would make political gerrymandering illegal.

No, not really. The specific order, which probably won't even last, is to redraw the maps. We can make them better.

Since the rump party is condensed to only a handful of counties in Wisconsin, they have a geographic/distributional problem. Barry used to have widespread support in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on February 06, 2017, 10:35:45 PM
Another hint that Walker's running. (https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/828730976855535616)

Wow.

Scott Walker apparently took a break from eating ham and cheese sandwiches and learned how to use emojis.

Proud of you, Scotty!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: heatcharger on February 06, 2017, 10:41:39 PM
Can someone explain to me why krazen gets to stay on this forum?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on February 06, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
Can someone explain to me why krazen gets to stay on this forum?

Muon and Torie like him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Virginiá on February 06, 2017, 11:42:16 PM
They don't have the power to ban him, and either krazen is diligently skirting the line on what is acceptable or no one is reporting the posts that would eventually get him banned.

I mean, if this was my forum he'd have been gone long ago because I know what he is doing, and in the long run he's a very clear net negative for the place whose sometimes decent contributions are consistently outweighed by his clear lack of respect/disdain for us. But that's not how the system works here, which I have to say isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can be frustrating like this but it can also prevent moderators/admins from getting carried away with pruning users as they seek to build a perfect forum environment, which in the end could sometimes be just as harmful for the forum.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on February 07, 2017, 04:56:55 PM
They don't have the power to ban him, and either krazen is diligently skirting the line on what is acceptable or no one is reporting the posts that would eventually get him banned.

I mean, if this was my forum he'd have been gone long ago because I know what he is doing, and in the long run he's a very clear net negative for the place whose sometimes decent contributions are consistently outweighed by his clear lack of respect/disdain for us. But that's not how the system works here, which I have to say isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can be frustrating like this but it can also prevent moderators/admins from getting carried away with pruning users as they seek to build a perfect forum environment, which in the end could sometimes be just as harmful for the forum.

As we saw all too often with Inks...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Mr. Morden on February 15, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
Sounds like Puzder might withdraw as Trump's choice for Labor Secretary, meaning there's a decent chance that Trump would pick Walker to take the job instead.  So we may be in for Gov. Kleefisch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 15, 2017, 04:30:40 PM
Sounds like Puzder might withdraw as Trump's choice for Labor Secretary, meaning there's a decent chance that Trump would pick Walker to take the job instead.  So we may be in for Gov. Kleefisch.


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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on February 16, 2017, 03:28:25 PM
Also the song he referenced is about Reaganite policies leading to a nuclear holocaust.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on February 16, 2017, 10:47:24 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: heatcharger on February 16, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 16, 2017, 11:01:56 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

No it wouldn't, it would be a very contested race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: heatcharger on February 16, 2017, 11:14:27 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

No it wouldn't, it would be a very contested race.

How are you so sure? What candidates do the Democrats have to run? I'm just skeptical that a district that swung 16 points towards Trump will give a Democrat the job in an open race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on February 16, 2017, 11:22:46 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

No it wouldn't, it would be a very contested race.

How are you so sure? What candidates do the Democrats have to run? I'm just skeptical that a district that swung 16 points towards Trump will give a Democrat the job in an open race.

If you assume a smooth midterm for the GOP and Trump JA in WI being positive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 16, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

No it wouldn't, it would be a very contested race.

How are you so sure? What candidates do the Democrats have to run? I'm just skeptical that a district that swung 16 points towards Trump will give a Democrat the job in an open race.

Democrats have about the same amount of State Senators and Representatives in this District as Republicans do.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: publicunofficial on February 17, 2017, 01:03:42 AM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

No it wouldn't, it would be a very contested race.

How are you so sure? What candidates do the Democrats have to run? I'm just skeptical that a district that swung 16 points towards Trump will give a Democrat the job in an open race.

Jennifer Shilling is a speculative statewide candidate, but could go for WI-03 if Kind left. She also represents a Trump district. Kathleen Vinehout is another option.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 17, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
Kind making some noise.

http://www.wpr.org/node/1063446

Not that he wouldn't be a good candidate, but his seat would basically be a free pickup for Republicans most likely.

Lol, no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 17, 2017, 09:24:31 AM
I've been saying it for a long time. If anyone picks up anything in Wisconsin right now, it's Kind.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Blackacre on February 17, 2017, 09:37:36 AM
Yeah, if I wasn't enthralled with the prospect of Governor Russ Feingold in my TL (still think he could do it if he relented on Super PACs) I'd have Kind be Governor. He's the Tim Ryan of Wisconsin; the absolute best pick the state's Dems have


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 17, 2017, 09:41:07 AM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 17, 2017, 11:08:04 AM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.

Yeah... he's a really right-winger

*eyeroll*

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ron-kind/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 17, 2017, 11:15:51 AM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.

Yeah... he's a really right-winger

*eyeroll*

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ron-kind/

1) I never called him a right-winger
2) These are votes since Trump has been President, it would be better to look at his entire Congressional record.
3) He is one of the most Wall Street friendly Democrats in the Midwest.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 17, 2017, 12:12:19 PM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.

Yeah... he's a really right-winger

*eyeroll*

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ron-kind/

1) I never called him a right-winger
2) These are votes since Trump has been President, it would be better to look at his entire Congressional record.
3) He is one of the most Wall Street friendly Democrats in the Midwest.

He's also what the D party needs in Wisconsin right now. Someone who knows how to campaign towards less urban voters and who is not from Dane or MKE county areas. The guy has done so well in his district that the GOP didn't even bother challenging him in 2016.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Blackacre on February 17, 2017, 04:30:51 PM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.

Yeah... he's a really right-winger

*eyeroll*

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ron-kind/

1) I never called him a right-winger
2) These are votes since Trump has been President, it would be better to look at his entire Congressional record.
3) He is one of the most Wall Street friendly Democrats in the Midwest.

He's also what the D party needs in Wisconsin right now. Someone who knows how to campaign towards less urban voters and who is not from Dane or MKE county areas. The guy has done so well in his district that the GOP didn't even bother challenging him in 2016.

He also makes for an interesting test case.

Ron Kind, a Dem who's more centrist and has wall street ties, will share a ballot with Tammy Baldwin, who is neither of those things. I say to the Dems: this is exactly what you want. Put them both on the ballot together, and determine the direction your party should go using the scientific method. How much Baldwin outpolls/underpolls Kind will tell the WI Dems a lot about what direction they should take going forward. Of course, incumbency should be taken into consideration; I expect Baldwin will outpoll Kind for that very reason, but factor that out and you've got some solid data.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 17, 2017, 04:33:27 PM
Politically, Kind is an awful Democrat. One of the biggest Wall Street/Free traders in the Midwest. Current chair of the New Democratic Collation. Definition of a 3rd Way Dem.

Yeah... he's a really right-winger

*eyeroll*

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ron-kind/

1) I never called him a right-winger
2) These are votes since Trump has been President, it would be better to look at his entire Congressional record.
3) He is one of the most Wall Street friendly Democrats in the Midwest.

He's also what the D party needs in Wisconsin right now. Someone who knows how to campaign towards less urban voters and who is not from Dane or MKE county areas. The guy has done so well in his district that the GOP didn't even bother challenging him in 2016.

He also makes for an interesting test case.

Ron Kind, a Dem who's more centrist and has wall street ties, will share a ballot with Tammy Baldwin, who is neither of those things. I say to the Dems: this is exactly what you want. Put them both on the ballot together, and determine the direction your party should go using the scientific method. How much Baldwin outpolls/underpolls Kind will tell the WI Dems a lot about what direction they should take going forward. Of course, incumbency should be taken into consideration; I expect Baldwin will outpoll Kind for that very reason, but factor that out and you've got some solid data.

This is a good thought.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Blackacre on February 17, 2017, 05:08:18 PM
I only see him beating Walker in a big Democratic wave year. But then again, maybe he thinks he has a better chance of winning statewide than in his old district?

Also, I agree with Flying Spenstar. It's the same reason why someone like Ron Johnson did better than Tommy Thompson in WI. It's not really a moderate state by any means.

If Ron Kind and Tammy Baldwin share a ballot, and Kind significantly outperforms Baldwin, or does about the same (considering Baldwin has the advantage of incumbency and Kind does not) then the mode of thinking that WI isn't a moderate state needs to be challenged, and that's very good to know.

If, on the other hand, Baldwin does significantly better than Kind, then your conventional wisdom holds. And I really want to find out. It would be the equivalent of McCaskill surviving but Donnelly and Heitkamp getting defeated, a blow to the way we think about these states and these politicians.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on February 17, 2017, 05:15:57 PM
There seems to be a stunning lack of potentials that can run competitively against Walker if Ron Kind is the only person we can come up with.

Walker's past opponents have been stunningly weak Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 17, 2017, 05:41:03 PM
There seems to be a stunning lack of potentials that can run competitively against Walker if Ron Kind is the only person we can come up with.

Walker's past opponents have been stunningly weak Democrats.

Weak bench when you discount anyone who's not from MKE or Dane. The current mindset of the local electorate is polarized against the urban areas by sake of being urban and thriving (Walker's strategy). A winning candidate must either overturn that mindset (very hard atm) or prove it wrong as someone from outside those areas (Kind is the only one who can do this right now).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on February 17, 2017, 05:45:33 PM
There seems to be a stunning lack of potentials that can run competitively against Walker if Ron Kind is the only person we can come up with.

Walker's past opponents have been stunningly weak Democrats.

Weak bench when you discount anyone who's not from MKE or Dane. The current mindset of the local electorate is polarized against the urban areas by sake of being urban and thriving (Walker's strategy). A winning candidate must either overturn that mindset (very hard atm) or prove it wrong as someone from outside those areas (Kind is the only one who can do this right now).

Have past Democratic nominees since 2010 not been good with appealing to rural voters?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 17, 2017, 07:18:55 PM
I only see him beating Walker in a big Democratic wave year. But then again, maybe he thinks he has a better chance of winning statewide than in his old district?

Also, I agree with Flying Spenstar. It's the same reason why someone like Ron Johnson did better than Tommy Thompson in WI. It's not really a moderate state by any means.

If Ron Kind and Tammy Baldwin share a ballot, and Kind significantly outperforms Baldwin, or does about the same (considering Baldwin has the advantage of incumbency and Kind does not) then the mode of thinking that WI isn't a moderate state needs to be challenged, and that's very good to know.

If, on the other hand, Baldwin does significantly better than Kind, then your conventional wisdom holds. And I really want to find out. It would be the equivalent of McCaskill surviving but Donnelly and Heitkamp getting defeated, a blow to the way we think about these states and these politicians.

Totally agreed. I think this would be a better test if Kander were running instead of McCaskill, though. McCaskill (like Blunt, in many ways) has her own issues and is really just a terrible fit for her state. But generally speaking it does seem to be the case that more and more voters are rejecting "moderate" candidates or don't really care that they are moderates (think of Mark Kirk, Evan Bayh, etc.).

Of course there's also the possibility that both Kind and Baldwin lose (which would probably mean that WI has pulled a reverse VA on Dems) or that they both win (which would likely mean that 2018 is a big Democratic wave) by somewhat similar margins. But if anyone can win in WI in a Trump midterm, it's Baldwin. A Baldwin vs. Hovde race will be fascinating to watch, as Hovde basically resembles Ron Johnson and Baldwin can fire up the progressive base. WI is quite a fascinating state politically.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 17, 2017, 07:30:34 PM
There seems to be a stunning lack of potentials that can run competitively against Walker if Ron Kind is the only person we can come up with.

Walker's past opponents have been stunningly weak Democrats.

Weak bench when you discount anyone who's not from MKE or Dane. The current mindset of the local electorate is polarized against the urban areas by sake of being urban and thriving (Walker's strategy). A winning candidate must either overturn that mindset (very hard atm) or prove it wrong as someone from outside those areas (Kind is the only one who can do this right now).

Have past Democratic nominees since 2010 not been good with appealing to rural voters?

Pretty much. The urban areas are not enough to carry the state. Green Bay doesn't vote like the typical city.

A winning D coalition involves the SW + NW of the state + Dane + MKE + Kenosha + Menominee + Racine counties. Local D candidates have not been able to get that coalition going, and Obama over killed with the Central West to West parts of the state.

If a D candidate appeals to the eastern part of the state, they lose ground in Dane and its surrounding areas, which is counterproductive.

I don't know how Democrats can get that coalition going, but they have to find a way. They could also come up with something entirely new, but I wouldn't know how to get to that point either.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 17, 2017, 07:36:45 PM
^Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the problem basically that Democrats who are doing well in the WOW counties usually underperform significantly in the rural areas (Clinton) and that Democrats who are doing well in the traditionally Democratic rural parts of the state are suffering losses in the WOW counties (Feingold), right? Isn't this somewhat similar to the problem the VA GOP has - what appeals to rural and Southwest VA hurts you in NoVA/Richmond/etc. and vice versa.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 17, 2017, 07:40:24 PM
^Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the problem basically that Democrats who are doing well in the WOW counties usually underperform significantly in the rural areas (Clinton) and that Democrats who are doing well in the traditionally Democratic rural parts of the state are suffering losses in the WOW counties (Feingold), right? Isn't this somewhat similar to the problem the VA GOP has - what appeals to rural and Southwest VA hurts you in NoVA/Richmond/etc. and vice versa.

WOW counties are pretty much always 55-60%+ GOP (Trump being the exception for obvious reasons); the biggest issues are convincing voters in the western side of the state and keeping turnout up in MKE and Dane, which are counteractive goals.

Walker's divide has worked fantastically.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Blackacre on February 17, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
I only see him beating Walker in a big Democratic wave year. But then again, maybe he thinks he has a better chance of winning statewide than in his old district?

Also, I agree with Flying Spenstar. It's the same reason why someone like Ron Johnson did better than Tommy Thompson in WI. It's not really a moderate state by any means.

If Ron Kind and Tammy Baldwin share a ballot, and Kind significantly outperforms Baldwin, or does about the same (considering Baldwin has the advantage of incumbency and Kind does not) then the mode of thinking that WI isn't a moderate state needs to be challenged, and that's very good to know.

If, on the other hand, Baldwin does significantly better than Kind, then your conventional wisdom holds. And I really want to find out. It would be the equivalent of McCaskill surviving but Donnelly and Heitkamp getting defeated, a blow to the way we think about these states and these politicians.

Totally agreed. I think this would be a better test if Kander were running instead of McCaskill, though. McCaskill (like Blunt, in many ways) has her own issues and is really just a terrible fit for her state. But generally speaking it does seem to be the case that more and more voters are rejecting "moderate" candidates or don't really care that they are moderates (think of Mark Kirk, Evan Bayh, etc.).

Of course there's also the possibility that both Kind and Baldwin lose (which would probably mean that WI has pulled a reverse VA on Dems) or that they both win (which would likely mean that 2018 is a big Democratic wave) by somewhat similar margins. But if anyone can win in WI in a Trump midterm, it's Baldwin. A Baldwin vs. Hovde race will be fascinating to watch, as Hovde basically resembles Ron Johnson and Baldwin can fire up the progressive base. WI is quite a fascinating state politically.

On McCaskill: if Kander were running instead of her, then it wouldn't be a surprise if he outdid Donnelly/Heitkamp/Manchin :P

On Kind and Baldwin: If they both get similar margins, win or lose, then it probably means that Wisconsin straight-ticketed its 2018 unless the candidates got different margins in different parts of the state. I'd still chalk that up as a win for Kind though, as he has the harder job. He's trying to take out an incumbent, while Baldwin IS the incumbent trying to hold her job.

However, I can also see a scenario where Baldwin and Kind both win outside the context of a wave. It would mean that the state straight-ticketed, and in a neutral year, probably makes for a reversion to the mean type election, with Republicans gaining Senate seats in low hanging fruit states, Democrats gaining some house seats but not enough for a majority, and Dems making large gains at the state level. (because they hit rock bottom in 2016 and have little to go but upward) TD's timeline has this exact scenario play out (though not with Kind as the gubernatorial candidate)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 17, 2017, 07:55:39 PM
Whoa, I just checked the results... Johnson won the WOW counties by 38 points (68%-30%), 46 points (72%-26%) and 32 points (65%-33%).

Trump only won them by 27 points (60%-33%), 40 points (67%-27%) and 19 points (56%-37%). Johnson also outperformed Trump by quite a bit in Green Bay and Milwaukee. The difference in Madison was negligible. All of that was more than enough to make up for the fact that he underperformed Trump in rural/western WI. Johnson still did much better in those areas than he did in 2010, though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 17, 2017, 09:49:08 PM
What about someone like Jonathan Brostoff or Marina Dimitrijevic at the top, with Chris Abele on the bottom? Brostoff represents Larson's faction, Dimitrijevic represents Gwen Moore and Tom Barrett, while Chris Abele is obviously appealing to moderates.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on February 17, 2017, 11:01:37 PM
I feel like 'its time for a change' applies to state elections as well. Third term Governors are rare especially in purple states.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 20, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
What about someone like Jonathan Brostoff or Marina Dimitrijevic at the top, with Chris Abele on the bottom? Brostoff represents Larson's faction, Dimitrijevic represents Gwen Moore and Tom Barrett, while Chris Abele is obviously appealing to moderates.

You don't want Queen Marina or anyone from the county board. Useless the entire lot of them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Koharu on February 21, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
Any thought's on today's state superintendent election? I didn't go back too far in the thread, so I'm not sure if I missed discussion about it. Do folks think Evers will at least stay on the ballot?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2017, 09:21:09 AM
Any thought's on today's state superintendent election? I didn't go back too far in the thread, so I'm not sure if I missed discussion about it. Do folks think Evers will at least stay on the ballot?

I think he will. Gonna go vote for him in a couple.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on February 21, 2017, 10:17:31 AM
Any thought's on today's state superintendent election? I didn't go back too far in the thread, so I'm not sure if I missed discussion about it. Do folks think Evers will at least stay on the ballot?

I would think (and hope) that Evers will survive, considering that the conservative votes will be split among Humphries and Holtz.  There is a left-wing write in candidate, but I wouldn't expect him to get much.  IDK if there's been any polling suggesting which candidates will advance.

If Evers does get primaried, or loses in the general, it's another nail in the coffin for the WI Dems (even if this is a non partisan race).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 21, 2017, 10:45:16 AM
I imagine Evers will at least get to the second round and if I had my guess he'll probably win. I'll be out voting for him and the local school board race after work.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 21, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
Seeing on Twitter that Madison could get to 20% turnout. Would shatter the prior record of 10% turnout in a Spring election primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Koharu on February 21, 2017, 07:24:59 PM
Seeing on Twitter that Madison could get to 20% turnout. Would shatter the prior record of 10% turnout in a Spring election primary.

There's a huge push here among folks who attended the Women's March to go vote. It'll be interesting to see those numbers!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 21, 2017, 08:21:49 PM
Evers won with 65% in 2013 and this is a non-partisan race I'm predicting he'll get more than 60% this time as well


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 21, 2017, 08:28:38 PM
Evers won with 65% in 2013 and this is a non-partisan race I'm predicting he'll get more than 60% this time as well

Is Evers a Walker/Koch tool?
No, he has always been backed by democrats and teachers unions


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2017, 09:24:34 PM
So far Evers is winning around 60%, with Holtz clearly advancing as Humphries falls apart.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 21, 2017, 09:30:17 PM
Evers could get to 70%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 21, 2017, 09:45:19 PM

At 35% in he's at 69% and has over a 70,000 vote lead. He must be demolishing in the cities and winning the burbs handily too.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on February 21, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
Evers and Holtz advance.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-lowell-holtz-advance-in-state-superintendent-race/article_b4a02654-0402-521a-91bf-c863d488c1be.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on February 21, 2017, 09:48:10 PM
Evers and Holtz advance.  Evers had 60% even before Dane had been counted.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-lowell-holtz-advance-in-state-superintendent-race/article_b4a02654-0402-521a-91bf-c863d488c1be.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Babeuf on February 21, 2017, 09:48:43 PM
Good showing by Evers. Really poor one by Humphries.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Mr.Phips on February 21, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
Evers and Holtz advance.  Evers had 60% even before Dane had been counted.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-lowell-holtz-advance-in-state-superintendent-race/article_b4a02654-0402-521a-91bf-c863d488c1be.html


Why do they waste money on a runoff when a candidate has 50%+?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 21, 2017, 09:52:52 PM
Evers and Holtz advance.  Evers had 60% even before Dane had been counted.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/tony-evers-lowell-holtz-advance-in-state-superintendent-race/article_b4a02654-0402-521a-91bf-c863d488c1be.html


Why do they waste money on a runoff when a candidate has 50%+?

Because turnout is nonexistent. Turnout in April will still be crap but you'll still get a lot more voters out then.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2017, 09:59:29 PM
First shred of good local government news since a long time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2017, 10:00:42 PM
Turnout in Dane County is absolutely massive. So far, there have been about 50k votes cast in Dane (which is not yet all in), compared to 25k in Waukesha, which is all in.  Evers is also getting around 47% in Waukesha, and over 80% in Dane.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2017, 10:05:13 PM
Turnout in Dane County is absolutely massive. So far, there have been about 50k votes cast in Dane (which is not yet all in), compared to 25k in Waukesha, which is all in.  Evers is also getting around 47% in Waukesha, and over 80% in Dane.

Yeah, it was near midterm turnout in some places. The Madison area residents have already  had it with Trump.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2017, 10:06:08 PM
Turnout in Dane County is absolutely massive. So far, there have been about 50k votes cast in Dane (which is not yet all in), compared to 25k in Waukesha, which is all in.  Evers is also getting around 47% in Waukesha, and over 80% in Dane.

Yeah, it was near midterm turnout in some places. The Madison area residents have already  had it with Trump.

Sounds like we could see 30% turnout in Dane... for the Spring Primary. That's totally insane.

Also, Evers carried Ozaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: heatcharger on February 21, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
What are the turnout numbers (%) in Milwaukee and the WOW counties?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2017, 10:11:27 PM
What are the turnout numbers (%) in Milwaukee and the WOW counties?

Much lower... Its almost certain that more people will vote in Dane than Milwaukee county. Milwaukee is almost all in and it's only got a 500 vote edge on Dane. Dane is only about 75% in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Indy Texas on February 21, 2017, 11:25:03 PM
Why this state can't just confine its elections to even numbered years with a spring primary and a November general election is beyond me.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Virginiá on February 21, 2017, 11:35:49 PM
Why this state can't just confine its elections to even numbered years with a spring primary and a November general election is beyond me.

Not even just Wisconsin, but many others with abysmal turnout as well. Elections should take place every 2 years on the same date, from federal to local races. Other setups only reduce the voice of the people and end up costing the state a lot more money.

The only real benefit to off-off-year elections like these that I can see is it gives us Atlas folk something to talk about ()


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Maxwell on February 22, 2017, 12:02:55 AM
http://fox6now.com/2017/02/16/questions-raised-about-political-deal-between-candidates-for-state-superintendent/

apparently Holtz attempted to bribe Humphries out of the race.

Sounds like Evers has it in the bag.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Koharu on February 22, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
Turnout in Dane County is absolutely massive. So far, there have been about 50k votes cast in Dane (which is not yet all in), compared to 25k in Waukesha, which is all in.  Evers is also getting around 47% in Waukesha, and over 80% in Dane.

Yeah, it was near midterm turnout in some places. The Madison area residents have already  had it with Trump.

Yep. I'm in Dane county (burbs, though, not Madison proper) and there was actually a line when I went to vote around 1:30. Not like November, obviously, but while two people were getting checked in, there were four-five waiting.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 22, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
What sucks about all of this hype and Democratic interest is that no one decided to challenge a conservative Supreme Court Justice that will be up for reelection at the same time as Evers. Might have had a chance this year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Drew on February 22, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
What sucks about all of this hype and Democratic interest is that no one decided to challenge a conservative Supreme Court Justice that will be up for reelection at the same time as Evers. Might have had a chance this year.

I was thinking the same thing.  A YUGE missed opportunity.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 22, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
What sucks about all of this hype and Democratic interest is that no one decided to challenge a conservative Supreme Court Justice that will be up for reelection at the same time as Evers. Might have had a chance this year.

I was thinking the same thing.  A YUGE missed opportunity.

Yes... a complete disaster. God, the DPW is a giant turd.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 22, 2017, 11:23:50 AM
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 22, 2017, 11:28:51 AM
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.

My village which is in Milwaukee County and is usually 55-60% Republican was won by Evers by either 55% or 57%, can't remember exactly. He's pretty inoffensive and he's an incumbent so probably a big name recognition thing. Also Holtz and Humphries appear to try to destroy each other and illegal themselves out of the race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on February 22, 2017, 11:35:22 AM
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.

Link please?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: GlobeSoc on February 22, 2017, 12:23:05 PM
Why was Dane poll spamming?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 22, 2017, 12:53:37 PM
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.

Link please?

http://www.wisconsinvote.org/results/Supt%20of%20Public%20Instrctn%20-%20Primary%20(O)/county-results


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 22, 2017, 01:05:41 PM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Nhoj on February 22, 2017, 03:14:30 PM
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.
I believe one of the republicans had been previously in charge of the Superior school district, that's probably why Douglas has a soft margin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 22, 2017, 04:46:31 PM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

()

That's a landslide in Wisconsin if I've ever seen one.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 23, 2017, 08:40:23 AM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

()

That's a landslide in Wisconsin if I've ever seen one.

Kohl in 06, won every county.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 23, 2017, 01:36:13 PM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

()

That's a landslide in Wisconsin if I've ever seen one.

Kohl in 06, won every county.

That's the election I used as a template for this picture. Oddly, Evers had a higher vote share (70%) than Kohl did (67%). Evers ran 12 points ahead of Kohl in Dane County.

Again, the marginal turnout rates by county here is quite fascinating. In 06, there were about 33% more total votes in Milwaukee County than in Dane County, and Dane county only had about 22% more votes than Waukesha County. In 17, there were about 14% more votes cast in Dane County than in Milwaukee County... and more than 140% more than in Waukesha County.

The anti-Trump elite in Madison showed up... in droves.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 23, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

()

That's a landslide in Wisconsin if I've ever seen one.

Kohl in 06, won every county.

That's the election I used as a template for this picture. Oddly, Evers had a higher vote share (70%) than Kohl did (67%). Evers ran 12 points ahead of Kohl in Dane County.

Again, the marginal turnout rates by county here is quite fascinating. In 06, there were about 33% more total votes in Milwaukee County than in Dane County, and Dane county only had about 22% more votes than Waukesha County. In 17, there were about 14% more votes cast in Dane County than in Milwaukee County... and more than 140% more than in Waukesha County.

The anti-Trump elite in Madison showed up... in droves.

I believe the turnout was 8.67% which is really, really pathetic. Weird results will happen.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: MasterJedi on February 26, 2017, 09:03:48 AM
We wanted a Gubernatorial candidate? Well we have one now:

Bob Harlow, last ran for US House in California in the 18th District. 

https://ballotpedia.org/Bob_Harlow (https://ballotpedia.org/Bob_Harlow)

One of his main points is a bullet train, which I do like:

http://thepointeruwsp.com/2017/02/03/bullet-train-proposal-races-for-voter-attention/ (http://thepointeruwsp.com/2017/02/03/bullet-train-proposal-races-for-voter-attention/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 26, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
We wanted a Gubernatorial candidate? Well we have one now:

Bob Harlow, last ran for US House in California in the 18th District. 

https://ballotpedia.org/Bob_Harlow (https://ballotpedia.org/Bob_Harlow)

One of his main points is a bullet train, which I do like:

http://thepointeruwsp.com/2017/02/03/bullet-train-proposal-races-for-voter-attention/ (http://thepointeruwsp.com/2017/02/03/bullet-train-proposal-races-for-voter-attention/)

Yeah, I talked about him earlier, but people say he's a perennial candidate. No real chatter on him has picked up yet so he has to get to work asap.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 27, 2017, 12:21:05 PM
I made this for giggles... May have an error or two.

Red Evers, Blue Holtz.

()

That's a landslide in Wisconsin if I've ever seen one.

Kohl in 06, won every county.

That's the election I used as a template for this picture. Oddly, Evers had a higher vote share (70%) than Kohl did (67%). Evers ran 12 points ahead of Kohl in Dane County.

Again, the marginal turnout rates by county here is quite fascinating. In 06, there were about 33% more total votes in Milwaukee County than in Dane County, and Dane county only had about 22% more votes than Waukesha County. In 17, there were about 14% more votes cast in Dane County than in Milwaukee County... and more than 140% more than in Waukesha County.

The anti-Trump elite in Madison showed up... in droves.

I believe the turnout was 8.67% which is really, really pathetic. Weird results will happen.

Amazingly... 8.67% is quite a bit higher than normal for this primary, especially considering that there was no contested Supreme Court race.

Turnout in the past three primaries for state superintendent was just 5.9 percent. The past five primaries with a Supreme Court race wasn’t much better at just 7.3 percent.

So... yes, this is clearly a low turnout election... in which we saw about 30% higher turnout than normal.

http://fox6now.com/2017/02/14/wisconsin-elections-commission-not-predicting-turnout-for-spring-primary-election/

http://fox6now.com/2017/02/22/turnout-hits-8-percent-in-wisconsin-superintendent-race/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: henster on February 27, 2017, 08:53:34 PM
Walker is running for a third term in a midterm where his party is in power with a likely unpopular President, Ds appear to be energized they should go all out. There is a real thing as voter fatigue after two terms people want change in any state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on March 03, 2017, 11:27:15 PM
Walker is running for a third term in a midterm where his party is in power with a likely unpopular President, Ds appear to be energized they should go all out. There is a real thing as voter fatigue after two terms people want change in any state.

Never doubt the Wisconsin Democrat's ability to screw up a good opportunity.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 04, 2017, 09:35:32 AM
Walker is running for a third term in a midterm where his party is in power with a likely unpopular President, Ds appear to be energized they should go all out. There is a real thing as voter fatigue after two terms people want change in any state.

Never doubt the Wisconsin Democrat's ability to screw up a good opportunity.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 10, 2017, 11:54:31 AM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 10, 2017, 11:55:36 AM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

Welp. There goes the best recruit.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Ron Kind passes on running for GOV
Post by: MasterJedi on March 10, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Former State Senator Tim Cullen said he's running.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Ron Kind passes on running for GOV
Post by: Gass3268 on March 10, 2017, 12:01:26 PM
Former State Senator Tim Cullen said he's running.

Ugh, he's kind of an ass.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Littlefinger on March 10, 2017, 12:19:19 PM
Is State Sen Kathleen Vinehout the top target for Dems now? Is she on the same tier of candidate as Kind would have been?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: KingSweden on March 10, 2017, 12:23:33 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

Welp. There goes the best recruit.

Thoughts on Parisi? A County Exec is usually a good stepping stone to Governor


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: The Other Castro on March 10, 2017, 12:26:17 PM
Walker keeps winning ---> No big candidates want to run ---> Walker wins again ---> Repeat


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 10, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

Welp. There goes the best recruit.

Thoughts on Parisi? A County Exec is usually a good stepping stone to Governor

Complete unknown even to most in Dane County. In theory, yes, a CE is a good stepping stone, but not from Dane County in the current local environment. There is no bench at this point. Anyone else is way below Kind, tier-wise. Pocan could be good, but he runs into the same Dane county vs the rest of the state problem.

I honestly don't know at this point.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 10, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

Welp. There goes the best recruit.

Thoughts on Parisi? A County Exec is usually a good stepping stone to Governor

Complete unknown even to most in Dane County. In theory, yes, a CE is a good stepping stone, but not from Dane County in the current local environment. There is no bench at this point. Anyone else is way below Kind, tier-wise. Pocan could be good, but he runs into the same Dane county vs the rest of the state problem.

I honestly don't know at this point.

That didn't stop Tammy Baldwin.

Vinehout is probably the best bet however.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 10, 2017, 12:50:27 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

Welp. There goes the best recruit.

Thoughts on Parisi? A County Exec is usually a good stepping stone to Governor

Complete unknown even to most in Dane County. In theory, yes, a CE is a good stepping stone, but not from Dane County in the current local environment. There is no bench at this point. Anyone else is way below Kind, tier-wise. Pocan could be good, but he runs into the same Dane county vs the rest of the state problem.

I honestly don't know at this point.

That didn't stop Tammy Baldwin.

Vinehout is probably the best bet however.

Perhaps. We're still too far away to tell. The Dems need to come up with a better strategy for the state. Maybe the change in leadership will help. We'll see.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 10, 2017, 01:10:36 PM
So long as it isn't Abele...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Deblano on March 10, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

I congratulate Governor Scott Walker on a third term!

(sarcasm)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Blackacre on March 10, 2017, 02:17:35 PM
First Tim Ryan, now this. What's going on?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: publicunofficial on March 10, 2017, 02:19:22 PM

...the same thing that happens every cycle?

This just in folks: I'm learning that neither Dave Reichert or Jim Matheson will run for Senate this cycle, either. Shocker I know.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on March 10, 2017, 02:25:32 PM
Breaking: Ron Kind will NOT run for Governor in 2018 (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/840243903093755904)

I congratulate Governor Scott Walker on a third term!

(sarcasm)

Yeah, I never got this meme. I mean if a school board member could keep the margin to 6% in a wave year, surely he could lose in a even or negative year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Xing on March 10, 2017, 02:39:04 PM
Wow, I knew the Democratic Party here was bad, but I didn't think it was FDP level bad. Why are so many Democrats running scared from an unpopular, controversial governor who won by single digits under very favorable conditions? It's not like funding is everything.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Deblano on March 10, 2017, 02:47:13 PM
Wow, I knew the Democratic Party here was bad, but I didn't think it was FDP level bad. Why are so many Democrats running scared from an unpopular, controversial governor who won by single digits under very favorable conditions? It's not like funding is everything.

There is virtually no energy or identity in the Democratic Party. Every election comes down to: "Well were not like those nuts on the right wing"

"VOTE FOR ME OR ELSE THE REPUBLICANS WILL WIN! WE HAVE NO VISION! WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WILL DO IF WE WIN, BUT IF THE OTHER SIDE WINS THEY WILL BRING THE APOCALYPSE! VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

This is exactly why I call myself an Independent. The only thing the two-party system cares about is gaining power, retaining power, and throwing a tantrum when their power is taken away.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on March 10, 2017, 03:39:23 PM
Wow, I knew the Democratic Party here was bad, but I didn't think it was FDP level bad. Why are so many Democrats running scared from an unpopular, controversial governor who won by single digits under very favorable conditions? It's not like funding is everything.

It isn't.  Ron Kind is not the only person capable beating Walker and Cullen won't be the nominee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Blackacre on March 10, 2017, 03:43:12 PM
Honestly, I doubt Kind would have beaten Walker anyway. A lot of Democrats are probably scared after Johnson's and Trump's victory in WI last year. Still, I expect this race to get at least SOME attention, especially since the Senate race will be heavily contested as well. Baldwin should run ahead of whoever the Ds nominate for governor, but I wonder how much?

And winning by 6 and 7 points in a state as polarized as WI is not a bad showing at all IMO, especially considering that Walker has little crossover appeal.

The lesson Democrats should take from Johnson's victory in WI last year is as follows: DO NOT. REFUSE. SUPER PAC. MONEY.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: LabourJersey on March 10, 2017, 04:17:16 PM
I personally think the idea that "THIS IS THE ONLY MAN/WOMAN WHO CAN WIN" when it comes to elections is both unnecessary and harmful for Democrats. I don't know much about WI politics, but I find it also impossible to believe that Kind is the only democrat in the entire state who can beat someone like Walker. Also I genuinely think it's a self fulfilling prophecy when you think a competitive candidate is going to lose--volunteers dry up, people are less likely to donate, etc.

If Trump is sufficiently unpopular, I think people are going to vote against the GOP anyway, regardless of who is the nominee. Nominees do matter, but at the end of the day most people are just going to notice the "D" or the "R" next to the name.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 10, 2017, 04:23:35 PM
I personally think the idea that "THIS IS THE ONLY MAN/WOMAN WHO CAN WIN" when it comes to elections is both unnecessary and harmful for Democrats. I don't know much about WI politics, but I find it also impossible to believe that Kind is the only democrat in the entire state who can beat someone like Walker. Also I genuinely think it's a self fulfilling prophecy when you think a competitive candidate is going to lose--volunteers dry up, people are less likely to donate, etc.

If Trump is sufficiently unpopular, I think people are going to vote against the GOP anyway, regardless of who is the nominee. Nominees do matter, but at the end of the day most people are just going to notice the "D" or the "R" next to the name.

The GOP has been in control of the state for almost a decade, with almost every election resulting in more control--2016 included. Walker's strategy to polarize the state for political gain worked. The Democratic bench is largely limited to places where the polarization is highest.

Honestly, it looks bleak.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: henster on March 10, 2017, 06:54:27 PM
Honestly, I doubt Kind would have beaten Walker anyway. A lot of Democrats are probably scared after Johnson's and Trump's victory in WI last year. Still, I expect this race to get at least SOME attention, especially since the Senate race will be heavily contested as well. Baldwin should run ahead of whoever the Ds nominate for governor, but I wonder how much?

And winning by 6 and 7 points in a state as polarized as WI is not a bad showing at all IMO, especially considering that Walker has little crossover appeal.

The lesson Democrats should take from Johnson's victory in WI last year is as follows: DO NOT. REFUSE. SUPER PAC. MONEY.

Feingold did not refuse super PAC money this time around.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 11, 2017, 01:45:20 PM
This is a tossup and Dems do need WI, I am in support of Cullen beating Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Maxwell on March 11, 2017, 02:36:45 PM
Ron Kind isn't as good a candidate as any says he is. I knew he wasn't going to run for Governor and even if he jumped in he wouldn't have done that well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: henster on March 13, 2017, 06:30:38 AM
Hopefully Vinehout decides to run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on March 15, 2017, 09:42:16 PM
Likely R with Walker running anyways, OH, IL, MI are Dems best hope.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Gass3268 on March 22, 2017, 01:23:49 PM
Walker has seen a recent bump in approval, but still underwater:

Quote
MULawPoll‏ @MULawPoll  17m

Gov. Scott Walker job approval at 45%, disapproval at 48%. In October, it was 42%-51%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Deblano on March 22, 2017, 10:48:06 PM
Walker has seen a recent bump in approval, but still underwater:

Quote
MULawPoll‏ @MULawPoll  17m

Gov. Scott Walker job approval at 45%, disapproval at 48%. In October, it was 42%-51%.

Considering his approval ratings have pretty much always been around that number, he is the prime definition of a polarizing candidate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Gass3268 on March 22, 2017, 10:49:06 PM
Walker has seen a recent bump in approval, but still underwater:

Quote
MULawPoll‏ @MULawPoll  17m

Gov. Scott Walker job approval at 45%, disapproval at 48%. In October, it was 42%-51%.

Considering his approval ratings have pretty much always been around that number, he is the prime definition of a polarizing candidate.

From mid-2015 to mid-2016 his approvals were in the high 30's.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: RogueBeaver on March 29, 2017, 02:06:56 PM
Cullen out. (https://twitter.com/jrrosswrites/status/847160863077416961)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: publicunofficial on March 29, 2017, 06:19:20 PM
Cullen out. (https://twitter.com/jrrosswrites/status/847160863077416961)

Walker gonna run unopposed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 29, 2017, 06:58:48 PM
Cullen out. (https://twitter.com/jrrosswrites/status/847160863077416961)

Walker gonna run unopposed.

He won't. We just don't know yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Heisenberg on March 29, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
Both Baldwin and Walker are very polarizing politicians who will face serious opponents and be targeted like there's no tomorrow. A lot of people who say they're not running later decide to jump in anyway, just think of Cory Gardner.
Connie Mack IV in 2012 is another example.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Chief Justice Keef on March 29, 2017, 07:35:00 PM
Any chance somebody like Mark Pocan or Gwen Moore jumps in?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: RogueBeaver on March 31, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
Walker says he's ready to run. (https://twitter.com/PoliticoKevin/status/847585723574255616)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: The Other Castro on March 31, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
Walker says he's ready to run. (https://twitter.com/PoliticoKevin/status/847585723574255616)

Four times in eight years! Eh, not as catchy.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 31, 2017, 12:05:31 PM
Uh... this would be fun:

Mark Tauscher for Governor

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 31, 2017, 01:19:41 PM
Uh... this would be fun:

Mark Tauscher for Governor

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/)

This would be an interesting twist to the slate of boring candidates they have been pushing over the last couple of cycles.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: publicunofficial on March 31, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Cullen out. (https://twitter.com/jrrosswrites/status/847160863077416961)

Walker gonna run unopposed.

He won't. We just don't know yet.

For the record, I consider running against absolute nobodies the same thing as running unopposed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Gass3268 on April 01, 2017, 02:35:54 AM
Uh... this would be fun:

Mark Tauscher for Governor

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/ (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2017/03/30/former-packer-mark-tauscher-mulling-run-governor/99833134/)

He already denied it today.
This would be an interesting twist to the slate of boring candidates they have been pushing over the last couple of cycles.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Heisenberg on April 01, 2017, 11:42:02 AM
Cullen out. (https://twitter.com/jrrosswrites/status/847160863077416961)

Walker gonna run unopposed.

He won't. We just don't know yet.

For the record, I consider running against absolute nobodies the same thing as running unopposed.
I don't. There's still another name on the ballot, and the possibility of an upset.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Ronnie on April 01, 2017, 11:45:52 AM
Come on, Democrats aren't going to give up on a totally winnable race before it even begins, are they?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Deblano on April 02, 2017, 08:45:40 PM
What's with all the Democrats refusing to run against Scott Walker?

I know the Wisconsin Democratic Party is weak and crippled, but good lord. This is something else entirely.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 02, 2017, 08:53:00 PM
What's with all the Democrats refusing to run against Scott Walker?

I know the Wisconsin Democratic Party is weak and crippled, but good lord. This is something else entirely.

If the new DNC administration is serious about the 50-state strategy and party organization reform, WI is one of those places they need to target and overhaul.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Deblano on April 02, 2017, 08:58:12 PM
What's with all the Democrats refusing to run against Scott Walker?

I know the Wisconsin Democratic Party is weak and crippled, but good lord. This is something else entirely.

If the new DNC administration is serious about the 50-state strategy and party organization reform, WI is one of those places they need to target and overhaul.

Agreed. Wisconsin will be the true test on how effective Perez/Ellison is.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Chief Justice Keef on April 03, 2017, 08:28:20 AM
What's with all the Democrats refusing to run against Scott Walker?

I know the Wisconsin Democratic Party is weak and crippled, but good lord. This is something else entirely.

If the new DNC administration is serious about the 50-state strategy and party organization reform, WI is one of those places they need to target and overhaul.

With all these major candidates backing out, I'm confident they'll manage to trip over their own d--ks again.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Kind OUT, Cullen IN
Post by: Figueira on April 03, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Walker says he's ready to run. (https://twitter.com/PoliticoKevin/status/847585723574255616)

Four times in eight years! Eh, not as catchy.

Maggie Hassan vs. Scott Walker discuss w/maps


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2017, 08:51:08 AM
Today's the big Spring election. I'm expecting Tony Evers to win, and, more than anything, I'm looking to forward to seeing how turnout in the anti-Trump counties goes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Gass3268 on April 04, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
Today's the big Spring election. I'm expecting Tony Evers to win, and, more than anything, I'm looking to forward to seeing how turnout in the anti-Trump counties goes.

Should we create a new thread for this or just discuss it here? Also most local (county and city/village/town) elections are also today.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2017, 09:09:30 AM
Today's the big Spring election. I'm expecting Tony Evers to win, and, more than anything, I'm looking to forward to seeing how turnout in the anti-Trump counties goes.

Should we create a new thread for this or just discuss it here? Also most local (county and city/village/town) elections are also today.

Hm, I'll do that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2017, 03:00:19 PM
Josh Kaul to run for AG (https://www.joshkaul.org/)

Quote
Former Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager’s son is mulling a run for his mother’s old job. Kaul is a graduate of Stanford law school. He has worked as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore and as a private-practice attorney in Washington D.C. He currently works for the Perkins Coie law firm in Madison.

Source (http://wislawjournal.com/2017/03/17/lautenschlagers-son-mulling-attorney-general-run/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Ebsy on April 10, 2017, 03:43:21 PM
The lack of a serious candidate against Walker is pathetic.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Pandaguineapig on April 10, 2017, 03:47:51 PM
The lack of a serious candidate against Walker is pathetic.
To be fair the last couple of midterms have wiped out their bench. The only options are county and state legislature level politicians or names from the past like Feingold


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 10, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
The lack of a serious candidate against Walker is pathetic.

What do you expect when the bench has been run dry for 8 years? Kind and Evers would have been good candidates, and Feingold seems to have lost his touch. :(


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Pandaguineapig on April 10, 2017, 03:53:27 PM
Also money is likely to be better spent protecting Baldwin than trying to beat someone who has the largest fundraising network of any governor with Kathleen Falk or whoever does end up running


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: BuckeyeNut on April 10, 2017, 03:53:43 PM
State Senators really aren't "nobodies" in Gubernatorial elections.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Pandaguineapig on April 10, 2017, 03:59:06 PM
State Senators really aren't "nobodies" in Gubernatorial elections.


It depends on if they are in party leadership or some fundraising ability be it connections or personal wealth. A backbencher from Madison would pretty much be a some guy for the democrats


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Suburbia on April 10, 2017, 07:46:25 PM
It looks like the Wisconsin Democratic Party has been wiped out since 2010. Ron Kind should reconsider, since he is a man that likes to accomplish things, and so far, as a congressman in a EVEN swing district, WI-3. (my type of district), he hasn't gotten a lot of legislation into law that he had wanted done.

Kind should reconsider running as Wisconsin governor in 2018. He could give Walker a competitive race.

Russ Feingold and Lena Taylor should consider running.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: MasterJedi on April 14, 2017, 12:47:46 PM
Don't have time to grab the article right now (but it is going through all the local state news) is that Republicans are trying to stop local school referendums. They think the schools are funded enough as it is now. But remember, Act 10 was supposed to free up schools financially and then if they needed additional funding they could do so with referendums. But the magnitude of ones that are passing each year must be pretty embarrassing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 14, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
It looks like the Wisconsin Democratic Party has been wiped out since 2010. Ron Kind should reconsider, since he is a man that likes to accomplish things, and so far, as a congressman in a EVEN swing district, WI-3. (my type of district), he hasn't gotten a lot of legislation into law that he had wanted done.

Kind should reconsider running as Wisconsin governor in 2018. He could give Walker a competitive race.

Russ Feingold and Lena Taylor should consider running.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Gass3268 on April 14, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
Don't have time to grab the article right now (but it is going through all the local state news) is that Republicans are trying to stop local school referendums. They think the schools are funded enough as it is now. But remember, Act 10 was supposed to free up schools financially and then if they needed additional funding they could do so with referendums. But the magnitude of ones that are passing each year must be pretty embarrassing.

Would that take a constitutional amendment?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 14, 2017, 02:51:44 PM
Have you ever heard a toilet that's about to clog up flushing? That's been the state of Wisconsin politics for quite some time now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on April 18, 2017, 08:36:52 AM
Dane County Executive Joe Parisi will not run for Governor (http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_915dedf7-a33f-5fe4-848d-1e965fd36e5d.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on April 18, 2017, 09:17:28 AM
Dane County Executive Joe Parisi will not run for Governor (http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_915dedf7-a33f-5fe4-848d-1e965fd36e5d.html)
Why does no one want to challenge Walker? He is not popular


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: KingSweden on April 18, 2017, 09:23:55 AM
Dane County Executive Joe Parisi will not run for Governor (http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_915dedf7-a33f-5fe4-848d-1e965fd36e5d.html)

Well that sucks. He was a top candidate


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Suburbia on April 18, 2017, 10:01:37 AM
The Wisconsin Democratic Party may be worse than Florida Democratic Party and the Massachusetts Democratic Party.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: Suburbia on April 18, 2017, 10:03:32 AM
It looks like the Wisconsin Democratic Party has been wiped out since 2010. Ron Kind should reconsider, since he is a man that likes to accomplish things, and so far, as a congressman in a EVEN swing district, WI-3. (my type of district), he hasn't gotten a lot of legislation into law that he had wanted done.

Kind should reconsider running as Wisconsin governor in 2018. He could give Walker a competitive race.

Russ Feingold and Lena Taylor should consider running.

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What's so bad about Lena Taylor? She's feisty, but very liberal. Can't she appeal to some working class voters?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Cullen out too
Post by: MasterJedi on April 18, 2017, 10:13:49 AM
It looks like the Wisconsin Democratic Party has been wiped out since 2010. Ron Kind should reconsider, since he is a man that likes to accomplish things, and so far, as a congressman in a EVEN swing district, WI-3. (my type of district), he hasn't gotten a lot of legislation into law that he had wanted done.

Kind should reconsider running as Wisconsin governor in 2018. He could give Walker a competitive race.

Russ Feingold and Lena Taylor should consider running.

()
What's so bad about Lena Taylor? She's feisty, but very liberal. Can't she appeal to some working class voters?

She really is pretty moderate compared to the rest of the party in the state. She was primaried by the liberal wing last spring. She has the habit of mouth diarrhea, she just starts talking about something and uses big, grandiose language while saying nothing and just doesn't stop talking.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on April 18, 2017, 10:15:58 AM
Fine. I'll run against Scott Walker, guys.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 19, 2017, 12:56:21 AM
Who knows? Maybe nobody will run. It wouldn't surprise me at this point. My opinion of this state's politics is that it's in trash.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on April 19, 2017, 01:01:10 AM
I bet some random state senator runs and it's much close than expected. Maybe they even win, causing some higher profile Dems to regret their decisions not to run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 19, 2017, 01:50:06 AM
Feingold should really give it one more go.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on April 19, 2017, 01:51:51 AM
Feingold should really give it one more go.

He can't seal the deal in the state, unfortunately. No.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: smoltchanov on April 19, 2017, 01:54:52 AM
Feingold should really give it one more go.

He would lose. He had very incompetent opponent last year, and managed to lose. As much as i hate Walker - he knows how to campaign and is not an incompetent...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on April 19, 2017, 03:00:22 AM
Feingold should really give it one more go.

He would lose. He had very incompetent opponent last year, and managed to lose. As much as i hate Walker - he knows how to campaign and is not an incompetent...

Johnson ran a fine campaign for someone who no one thought was going to win until the fall.  He probably would have won had Trump not won the state.  Unfortunately, the head of the Democratic ticket opted to, eh hem, ignore the state after the convention.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on April 19, 2017, 03:03:07 AM
She wasn't running for senator from Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: smoltchanov on April 19, 2017, 03:51:07 AM
Feingold should really give it one more go.

He would lose. He had very incompetent opponent last year, and managed to lose. As much as i hate Walker - he knows how to campaign and is not an incompetent...

Johnson ran a fine campaign for someone who no one thought was going to win until the fall.  He probably would have won had Trump not won the state.  Unfortunately, the head of the Democratic ticket opted to, eh hem, ignore the state after the convention.

Let's agree to disagree))))


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 19, 2017, 08:56:14 PM
But guys, there's KATHLEEN VINEHOUT!1!!1!

(On a serious note, she'd be better than the current nobodies, having held down a Trump-voting Senate district in an area of the state trending away from Democrats)

Yeah, she might be a good choice, but are there any indications that she's even considering?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Xing on April 19, 2017, 09:48:59 PM
Am I going to have to move to Wisconsin and take him on myself!? Don't think I won't!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on April 19, 2017, 10:16:33 PM
But guys, there's KATHLEEN VINEHOUT!1!!1!

(On a serious note, she'd be better than the current nobodies, having held down a Trump-voting Senate district in an area of the state trending away from Democrats)

Yeah, she might be a good choice, but are there any indications that she's even considering?

There's no indications she won't run, which is the best we've got right now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Deblano on April 19, 2017, 10:46:17 PM
Feingold should really give it one more go.

He would lose. He had very incompetent opponent last year, and managed to lose. As much as i hate Walker - he knows how to campaign and is not an incompetent...

Walker is an incompetent who knows how to campaign against opponents that are EVEN MORE incompetent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on April 21, 2017, 12:21:15 PM
Walker has changed his mind and is now open to possibly increasing the vehicle registration tax. It's needed and it would totally piss off the WOW counties who think $75 a year is exorbitant since they've never left the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 21, 2017, 12:40:03 PM
Walker has changed his mind and is now open to possibly increasing the vehicle registration tax. It's needed and it would totally piss off the WOW counties who think $75 a year is exorbitant since they've never left the state.

I'm actually starting to think that the best route for Democrats in WI-GOV will be to hope that Walker gets a strong primary from the right and that Trump is unpopular, causing a lot of straight-ticket dems to turnout on election night and republicans to stay home.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Young Conservative on April 23, 2017, 09:35:31 AM
Walker has changed his mind and is now open to possibly increasing the vehicle registration tax. It's needed and it would totally piss off the WOW counties who think $75 a year is exorbitant since they've never left the state.

I'm actually starting to think that the best route for Democrats in WI-GOV will be to hope that Walker gets a strong primary from the right and that Trump is unpopular, causing a lot of straight-ticket dems to turnout on election night and republicans to stay home.
There's no chance a challenger to the right of Walker gets enough funding to be strong. He's not liberal enough for the Club for Growth to get involved and the Kochs already support him heavily. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on April 24, 2017, 06:05:06 PM
Walker has changed his mind and is now open to possibly increasing the vehicle registration tax. It's needed and it would totally piss off the WOW counties who think $75 a year is exorbitant since they've never left the state.

I'm actually starting to think that the best route for Democrats in WI-GOV will be to hope that Walker gets a strong primary from the right and that Trump is unpopular, causing a lot of straight-ticket dems to turnout on election night and republicans to stay home.
There's no chance a challenger to the right of Walker gets enough funding to be strong. He's not liberal enough for the Club for Growth to get involved and the Kochs already support him heavily. 

Vos really controls the state/party now anyways, Walker is just kind of there and then the assembly/Senate just say they won't do what he wants and he then caves.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: InheritTheWind on April 26, 2017, 12:23:07 PM
I had a dream last night that Robert LaFollette came back from the dead and successfully primaried Walker. At this point I think it's the best chance the Dems have of winning this seat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 26, 2017, 04:16:11 PM
I had a dream last night that Robert LaFollette came back from the dead and successfully primaried Walker. At this point I think it's the best chance the Dems have of winning this seat.

Dream come true


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 04, 2017, 12:23:52 PM
There's a Democratic challenger to Gableman that announced earlier this week. Don't have time to go find the article right now but he won't be unchallenged.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on May 04, 2017, 02:09:54 PM
There's a Democratic challenger to Gableman that announced earlier this week. Don't have time to go find the article right now but he won't be unchallenged.

I saw that too, its a shame he didn't try to run this year.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 06, 2017, 12:09:10 AM
I've seen some "Vinehout for Governor" yard signs up. She hasn't declared, right?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: GlobeSoc on May 06, 2017, 11:02:18 AM
I had a dream last night that Robert LaFollette came back from the dead and successfully primaried Walker. At this point I think it's the best chance the Dems have of winning this seat.

How do you have a dream about that? What does it even look like?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on May 10, 2017, 10:50:33 AM
Quote
Craig Gilbert‏ @WisVoter  4m
4 minutes ago
 
More
new WI poll by St Norbert's (small sample -- 303 adults) has Trump at 39 approve/59 disapprove and Gov Walker at 49/49.

Sigh... his election budget strategy is working again.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 10, 2017, 11:56:56 AM
Quote
Craig Gilbert‏ @WisVoter  4m
4 minutes ago
 
More
new WI poll by St Norbert's (small sample -- 303 adults) has Trump at 39 approve/59 disapprove and Gov Walker at 49/49.

Sigh... his election budget strategy is working again.

You have all his hard core supporters really mad that he's doing it though. The mantra is "no more funding for schools, we need to cut more".


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: krazen1211 on May 10, 2017, 03:21:50 PM
St Norbert is an awful pollster. Their last poll in late October had Feingold up 12 and Clinton up 8 in WI.

Walker knows how to win in Wisconsin. He has truly smart divide and Conquer tactics.

We shall see if he can boost the Senate nominee too!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: publicunofficial on May 10, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
Scott Walker's continued success should scare Democrats who think all they need to do to win is wait for Republicans to destroy the state's economy and let the seat fall into their lap.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: _ on May 15, 2017, 07:55:43 AM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on May 15, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?

Me personally, no. Maybe MasterJedi will? /s


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: _ on May 15, 2017, 10:02:55 AM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?

Me personally, no. Maybe MasterJedi will? /s

If nobody other than that guy who ran in California runs i'd suggest having either Jedi run or have Xingerui move to Wisconsin and run, he seems willing to.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on May 15, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?

Me personally, no. Maybe MasterJedi will? /s

If nobody other than that guy who ran in California runs i'd suggest having either Jedi run or have Xingerui move to Wisconsin and run, he seems willing to.

Xingerui/Jedi 2018!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: _ on May 15, 2017, 11:49:04 AM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?

Me personally, no. Maybe MasterJedi will? /s

If nobody other than that guy who ran in California runs i'd suggest having either Jedi run or have Xingerui move to Wisconsin and run, he seems willing to.

Xingerui/Jedi 2018!

But seriously if no real candidate jumps in Walker wins by +15 and might push whoever runs for senate over Baldwin, i'd assume Kleefisch guns for Senate now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 15, 2017, 06:33:21 PM
Hah, you guys are funny. I will definitely not be running.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on May 15, 2017, 07:55:10 PM
#DraftKathleen


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: _ on May 15, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Hah, you guys are funny. I will definitely not be running.

Then are you ready for Walker to win uncontested?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 15, 2017, 09:52:52 PM
Hah, you guys are funny. I will definitely not be running.

Then are you ready for Walker to win uncontested?

Actually living and earning a living is something that would be more important personally.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on May 16, 2017, 01:27:45 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on May 16, 2017, 01:43:46 PM

Falk? She couldn't even win the AG race during the 2006 wave.

Vinehout? She would be a pretty good choice. Represents an area that Democrats need to win in order to take the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on May 16, 2017, 01:47:59 PM
Democrats need to be a bit more patient here. Walker (and Baldwin, for that matter) will be seriously challenged, and even if a random State Representative runs, they will get at least 45% of the vote. I predict Walker wins after a tough fight, though. Lean R for now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Xing on May 16, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
Walker finally declared, will none of you stand against him?

Me personally, no. Maybe MasterJedi will? /s

If nobody other than that guy who ran in California runs i'd suggest having either Jedi run or have Xingerui move to Wisconsin and run, he seems willing to.

Xingerui/Jedi 2018!

Haha, Jedi should definitely be at the top of that ticket, though. ;)

Anyway, I mostly agree with what TNVol said. This is sort of reminiscent of the North Carolina Senate race last year. Everyone was ready to declare Burr safe early on, but the race did get more competitive. Walker probably wins in a neutral to good year for Republicans, but if things get bad for Republicans, a generic Democrat could probably win here. (#GenericDemocrat2018, am I right?)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on May 16, 2017, 02:43:19 PM

Falk? She couldn't even win the AG race during the 2006 wave.

Vinehout? She would be a pretty good choice. Represents an area that Democrats need to win in order to take the state.

Vinehout. Justice for 2014.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: publicunofficial on May 16, 2017, 06:19:10 PM
Flaming Hot Take here: I have more hope in the Iowa race than Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: BuckeyeNut on May 16, 2017, 06:54:23 PM
Vinehout seems like a decent candidate, were she to run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: KingSweden on May 16, 2017, 11:48:16 PM
Flaming Hot Take here: I have more hope in the Iowa race than Wisconsin.

Indeed. Any of Boulton, Pritchard or Leopold seem solid


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on May 17, 2017, 06:55:24 AM
Flaming Hot Take here: I have more hope in the Iowa race than Wisconsin.

Indeed. Any of Boulton, Pritchard or Leopold seem solid

Yes, especially Pritchard and Boulton.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 31, 2017, 09:35:02 AM
Good news, state found an additional $93 million for road funding that was missed, too bad it's still $900 million short! Walker's solution, don't raise anything a dime to pay for it, bond millions more and keep deferring those payments. -_-


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 31, 2017, 01:18:42 PM
Good news, state found an additional $93 million for road funding that was missed, too bad it's still $900 million short! Walker's solution, don't raise anything a dime to pay for it, bond millions more and keep deferring those payments. -_-

lol, this state is doomed a la Kansas.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 31, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
Good news, state found an additional $93 million for road funding that was missed, too bad it's still $900 million short! Walker's solution, don't raise anything a dime to pay for it, bond millions more and keep deferring those payments. -_-

lol, this state is doomed a la Kansas.

Assembly idea: Cut the income tax by a lot, raise the gas tax by a little and put in toll roads everywhere that people seem to think would only be paid by FIBs (lol). So another terrible idea.

Edit: Told my dad about this, his response was it's Doyle's fault because he raided the transportation fund and that we would be in a lot worse position without Walker.

Everyone says it's Doyle's fault when Walker has been in control for 7 years and he keeps saying there's a surplus somehow.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 31, 2017, 01:44:42 PM
Good news, state found an additional $93 million for road funding that was missed, too bad it's still $900 million short! Walker's solution, don't raise anything a dime to pay for it, bond millions more and keep deferring those payments. -_-

lol, this state is doomed a la Kansas.

Assembly idea: Cut the income tax by a lot, raise the gas tax by a little and put in toll roads everywhere that people seem to think would only be paid by FIBs (lol). So another terrible idea.

Edit: Told my dad about this, his response was it's Doyle's fault because he raided the transportation fund and that we would be in a lot worse position without Walker.

Everyone says it's Doyle's fault when Walker has been in control for 7 years and he keeps saying there's a surplus somehow.

How the heck is this Doyle's problem? He's ancient history in the state at this point! Oh my goodness.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on May 31, 2017, 01:46:28 PM
Good news, state found an additional $93 million for road funding that was missed, too bad it's still $900 million short! Walker's solution, don't raise anything a dime to pay for it, bond millions more and keep deferring those payments. -_-

lol, this state is doomed a la Kansas.

Assembly idea: Cut the income tax by a lot, raise the gas tax by a little and put in toll roads everywhere that people seem to think would only be paid by FIBs (lol). So another terrible idea.

Edit: Told my dad about this, his response was it's Doyle's fault because he raided the transportation fund and that we would be in a lot worse position without Walker.

Everyone says it's Doyle's fault when Walker has been in control for 7 years and he keeps saying there's a surplus somehow.

How the heck is this Doyle's problem? He's ancient history in the state at this point! Oh my goodness.

It's all you see on social media about this, it's Doyle's fault for pre-2010 taking money out of that fund. Or that we need to cut taxes and services and we'll pay for the roads just fine.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on June 01, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Every day I am thankful that my terrible governor is at least tempered by a Democratic state house.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 01, 2017, 01:34:11 PM
Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Rebecca Dallet Enters Race for WI SC (http://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/judge-rebecca-dallet-enters-race-for-wisconsin-supreme-court/)

Here's the best chance the state has to take down Gableman.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 01, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Rebecca Dallet Enters Race for WI SC (http://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/judge-rebecca-dallet-enters-race-for-wisconsin-supreme-court/)

Here's the best chance the state has to take down Gableman.

We'll see what happens.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on June 01, 2017, 08:42:46 PM
http://www.newrichmond-news.com/news/politics/4272920-western-wisconsin-lawmaker-eyes-gubernatorial-bid

Looks like Vinehout is ramping up "exploring a bid" for Governor. An easy primary could help ameliorate the money disadvantage the Democrats have vs Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 01, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
http://www.newrichmond-news.com/news/politics/4272920-western-wisconsin-lawmaker-eyes-gubernatorial-bid

Looks like Vinehout is ramping up "exploring a bid" for Governor. An easy primary could help ameliorate the money disadvantage the Democrats have vs Walker.

She has no competition.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 01, 2017, 08:47:33 PM
http://www.newrichmond-news.com/news/politics/4272920-western-wisconsin-lawmaker-eyes-gubernatorial-bid

Looks like Vinehout is ramping up "exploring a bid" for Governor. An easy primary could help ameliorate the money disadvantage the Democrats have vs Walker.

She has no competition.

Was back home over the long weekend and I already saw Vinehout signs in Madison.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 01, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
http://www.newrichmond-news.com/news/politics/4272920-western-wisconsin-lawmaker-eyes-gubernatorial-bid

Looks like Vinehout is ramping up "exploring a bid" for Governor. An easy primary could help ameliorate the money disadvantage the Democrats have vs Walker.

She has no competition.

Still early, but it's probably hers if she wants it, don't expect anyone to really challenge her if she runs. If anything she's a million times better than Burke (wth were the Dems thinking in 2014?).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 01, 2017, 10:46:04 PM
http://www.newrichmond-news.com/news/politics/4272920-western-wisconsin-lawmaker-eyes-gubernatorial-bid

Looks like Vinehout is ramping up "exploring a bid" for Governor. An easy primary could help ameliorate the money disadvantage the Democrats have vs Walker.

She has no competition.

Was back home over the long weekend and I already saw Vinehout signs in Madison.

Yeah, there's quite a few around, more popping up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Drew on June 03, 2017, 11:37:52 AM
Madison mayor Paul Soglin now considering running, inspired by Bernie movement in WI, citing Madison's growth vs. rest of state.

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/paul-soglin-says-he-s-considering-running-for-governor/article_48d060c4-dc0e-58c2-8225-db303f12afbd.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: windjammer on June 03, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
Who would be the best candidate ?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 03, 2017, 01:37:00 PM

At this point, probably Shilling followed by Vinehout.  Soglin would be a pretty bad choice IMO.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on June 03, 2017, 01:38:27 PM

At this point, probably Shilling followed by Vinehout.  Soglin would be a pretty bad choice IMO.

Shilling isn't running.

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/sen-jennifer-shilling-rules-out-run-for-governor-in/article_a92b4891-2392-58b7-a5e9-1ac15ff8cbe3.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Drew on June 03, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
Martha Laning reelected as DPW chair.  http://bit.ly/2qLoAH5


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: CapoteMonster on June 03, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
Vinehout could easily win over western Wisconsin so she might be the best.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 03, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
I wish Dave Cieslewicz would run.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 03, 2017, 08:01:10 PM
Madison mayor Paul Soglin now considering running, inspired by Bernie movement in WI, citing Madison's growth vs. rest of state.

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/paul-soglin-says-he-s-considering-running-for-governor/article_48d060c4-dc0e-58c2-8225-db303f12afbd.html

He should just disappear. I know he's popular in Madison, but he made some pretty reckless comments regarding Trump after Trump was elected and a statewide Democrat has to be from somewhere other than Madison/MKE to have any success at this stage imo.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Technocracy Timmy on June 04, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Russ Feingold has been doing some events in Iowa recently. If there's any chance that he might be gearing for a run for President down the line, wouldn't a gubernatorial run in 2018 be on his list of priorities? It looks like no other big name is gonna challenge Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 04, 2017, 08:29:09 PM

Probably Vinehout. Farmer, socially moderate populist who represents a heavily Trump rural populist district and can't really be labelled as a Madison or Milwaukee liberal like Burke and Barrett were. The more I think of it, she's probably the outside the box candidate that the DPW needs

Grassroots like Vinehout too.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Deblano on June 04, 2017, 09:03:51 PM
Have we found a competent candidate to run against Scott Walker yet?....
....No?.....
.....
....ok then.....


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kamala on June 04, 2017, 09:14:58 PM
Have we found a competent candidate to run against Scott Walker yet?....
....No?.....
.....
....ok then.....

Vinehout is competent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Pollster on June 05, 2017, 06:26:39 PM
Has Vinehout laid out any sort of timetable? At this point, it seems like she is the only credible candidate left for the Dems in a state that they should be putting a lot of effort into.

Who else is on the Dem bench in Wisconsin? I've never worked in the state and I'm not really too familiar with its politics.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 05, 2017, 07:37:33 PM
Has Vinehout laid out any sort of timetable? At this point, it seems like she is the only credible candidate left for the Dems in a state that they should be putting a lot of effort into.

Who else is on the Dem bench in Wisconsin? I've never worked in the state and I'm not really too familiar with its politics.

Jennifer Shilling would also be a strong candidate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 05, 2017, 07:48:38 PM
Has Vinehout laid out any sort of timetable? At this point, it seems like she is the only credible candidate left for the Dems in a state that they should be putting a lot of effort into.

Who else is on the Dem bench in Wisconsin? I've never worked in the state and I'm not really too familiar with its politics.

Jennifer Shilling would also be a strong candidate.

She's already declined.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 05, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
Soglin would be the Corbyn of the Wisconsin Dems. Old, stale Dem, no new ideas, lives in the past. Loved in Madison but from what I can tell really hasn't done much of anything lately.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 05, 2017, 08:11:07 PM
Soglin would be the Corbyn of the Wisconsin Dems. Old, stale Dem, no new ideas, lives in the past. Loved in Madison but from what I can tell really hasn't done much of anything lately.

Madison's economy is bombing, while the rest of the state is spotty. I think that could be a plus. He's also actually more fiscally responsible than would would assume. Yet I agree, his past would be problematic. Vinehout is the best choice. I still think almost anyone could beat Walker (and he could beat anyone). Trump's approval will play a big part.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 07, 2017, 07:39:16 AM
Soglin would be the Corbyn of the Wisconsin Dems. Old, stale Dem, no new ideas, lives in the past. Loved in Madison but from what I can tell really hasn't done much of anything lately.

Madison's economy is bombing, while the rest of the state is spotty. I think that could be a plus. He's also actually more fiscally responsible than would would assume. Yet I agree, his past would be problematic. Vinehout is the best choice. I still think almost anyone could beat Walker (and he could beat anyone). Trump's approval will play a big part.

It's booming but it still hasn't really produced that many good paying jobs. Epic is a diploma mill that grinds out college graduates as it works them to death and the government is the only other large employer. From what I hear it's hard to find well paying jobs. A lot of graduates try and stay and leave within 5 years for the rest of the country. To be fair it's a state problem, not just the city.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 07, 2017, 10:11:15 AM
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Shawn Johnson‏ @SJohnsonWPR  13m

WI's rankings in private sector job growth since @GovWalker took office:

2011: 35th
2012: 36th
2013: 38th
2014: 35th
2015: 33rd
2016: 33rd

But remember it's all Doyle's fault.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: henster on June 08, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
I hope Mahlon Mitchell or Susan Hepp step up and run either would be intriguing candidates.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 08, 2017, 10:02:12 PM
I hope Dems get a decent candidate, this will be a major battleground in 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: henster on June 08, 2017, 10:08:35 PM
I hope Dems get a decent candidate, this will be a major battleground in 2020.

It makes no sense not to, they are putting Baldwin at risk with a weak Gov nominee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Pollster on June 09, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Baldwin votes reliably with Elizabeth Warren and is very much in the mold of Russ Feingold. She will likely benefit from being a good fit for the Democratic electorate of 2018, despite not being an ideal fit for the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Koharu on June 10, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
I know Wisconsin seems to have a pretty awful "bench" of Democrats, but isn't there someone better than Soglin? Even in Madison he isn't as popular as you would expect, and I haven't heard anyone particularly excited about him tossing out the possibility of running for governor.

Honestly, even outside my political beliefs and just as an observer, it would be very frustrating to see Walker win again just because there's no decent competition. I feel like any decent challenge (even from a different Republican in the primaries) would knock him out of the race. He's not that strong of a candidate, but he holds on.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 10, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
I know Wisconsin seems to have a pretty awful "bench" of Democrats, but isn't there someone better than Soglin? Even in Madison he isn't as popular as you would expect, and I haven't heard anyone particularly excited about him tossing out the possibility of running for governor.

Honestly, even outside my political beliefs and just as an observer, it would be very frustrating to see Walker win again just because there's no decent competition. I feel like any decent challenge (even from a different Republican in the primaries) would knock him out of the race. He's not that strong of a candidate, but he holds on.

Schilling would be the strongest imo but she isn't running. Looking like Vinehout will probably run, she'd be the second strongest. Anyone else that I can think of at this point would be awful.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on June 14, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
Wisconsin Assembly working on a call for a constitutional convention for a balanced budget amendment. Scary to think how close it is, if enough states pass it the 1st Amendment is one that will be gone for sure, no matter what they say the reason they're calling it is for.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 14, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
Wisconsin Assembly working on a call for a constitutional convention for a balanced budget amendment. Scary to think how close it is, if enough states pass it the 1st Amendment is one that will be gone for sure, no matter what they say the reason they're calling it is for.

Luckily, both Delaware and Maryland have rescinded their prior call.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 14, 2017, 02:41:19 PM
Wisconsin Assembly working on a call for a constitutional convention for a balanced budget amendment. Scary to think how close it is, if enough states pass it the 1st Amendment is one that will be gone for sure, no matter what they say the reason they're calling it is for.
It is undeniable that a Constitutional Convention would be an easy way for a dictator to seize power. If you get, say, twenty-six delegates in your inner circle elected, assuming each state elects one delegate, you could easily become an absolute monarch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Virginiá on June 14, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
It is undeniable that a Constitutional Convention would be an easy way for a dictator to seize power. If you get, say, twenty-six delegates in your inner circle elected, assuming each state elects one delegate, you could easily become an absolute monarch.

But 3/4th of the states would have to ratify those amendments. It would take very wide consensus for a dictator to seize power.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 15, 2017, 09:47:30 AM
Quote
Scott Bauer‏
Verified account
@sbauerAP

Breaking on @AP  Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman will not run for re-election in 2018


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Wiz in Wis on June 15, 2017, 09:55:05 AM
Soglin would be the Corbyn of the Wisconsin Dems. Old, stale Dem, no new ideas, lives in the past. Loved in Madison but from what I can tell really hasn't done much of anything lately.

Madison's economy is bombing, while the rest of the state is spotty. I think that could be a plus. He's also actually more fiscally responsible than would would assume. Yet I agree, his past would be problematic. Vinehout is the best choice. I still think almost anyone could beat Walker (and he could beat anyone). Trump's approval will play a big part.

It's booming but it still hasn't really produced that many good paying jobs. Epic is a diploma mill that grinds out college graduates as it works them to death and the government is the only other large employer. From what I hear it's hard to find well paying jobs. A lot of graduates try and stay and leave within 5 years for the rest of the country. To be fair it's a state problem, not just the city.

I'm going to disagree here. Madison is actually a pretty easy place to find a good paying job, even aside from Epic. There are a lot of bio-tech and finance firms here. They are building housing everywhere. Aside from Madison, Wisconsin is completely flat in terms of job/population growth.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Wiz in Wis on June 15, 2017, 09:56:45 AM
Quote
Scott Bauer‏
Verified account
@sbauerAP

Breaking on @AP  Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman will not run for re-election in 2018

Wow... that seat just became hella competitive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on June 15, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
Quote
Scott Bauer‏
Verified account
@sbauerAP

Breaking on @AP  Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman will not run for re-election in 2018

Yikes, his seat is now gone for Republicans IMO. Not feeling great about the Senate race either, honestly. Looks like WI Dems will get a lucky break for once in 2018, like VA Republicans did in 2009 and 2010. Walker should be very worried about all of this.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 15, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
Yeah, Dems need WI badly, its a critical state for Dems in 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Kingpoleon on June 15, 2017, 10:27:26 PM
It is undeniable that a Constitutional Convention would be an easy way for a dictator to seize power. If you get, say, twenty-six delegates in your inner circle elected, assuming each state elects one delegate, you could easily become an absolute monarch.

But 3/4th of the states would have to ratify those amendments. It would take very wide consensus for a dictator to seize power.

Theoretically, they could suspend that rule.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: LabourJersey on June 16, 2017, 10:36:22 AM
It is undeniable that a Constitutional Convention would be an easy way for a dictator to seize power. If you get, say, twenty-six delegates in your inner circle elected, assuming each state elects one delegate, you could easily become an absolute monarch.

But 3/4th of the states would have to ratify those amendments. It would take very wide consensus for a dictator to seize power.

Theoretically, they could suspend that rule.

How?

The people on this forum screaming about how "Con Con II" will be the end of the American Experiment need to calm down. There is no way a constitutional amendment could get passed anyway, since you can't get 38 state legislatures to agree on anything anyway


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Young Conservative on June 16, 2017, 05:23:55 PM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 17, 2017, 01:27:42 AM
Because up until recently, Wisconsin has been a Democratic leaning state.  And to see a GOPer, even if it is Walker, winning 3 times in a row is hard, very hard.  And hopefully, Ryan loses as well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 17, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
Of course Walker, Hogan and Sununu, aren't as vulnerable as Governor Rauner.  But, if you look at the landscape, its very hard to see Walker winning 3 terms. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on June 17, 2017, 10:16:56 AM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.

Nah, of course not, but WI tends to be very favorable to Democrats in off-year elections, especially when a Republican is president. I still think Walker's race is Lean R for sure, but the Supreme Court race and the Senate race are probably Lean D at this point, unfortunately. Still, I'm definitely not making any confident predictions at this point, I'll leave that to other users.

But I don't think Republicans should get their hopes up here, honestly.

Unfortunately? Republicans have been thrashing the state for years at practically all levels. Their only defense is "muh Doyle" even in 2017.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 17, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.

Nah, of course not, but WI tends to be very favorable to Democrats in off-year elections, especially when a Republican is president. I still think Walker's race is Lean R for sure, but the Supreme Court race and the Senate race are probably Lean D at this point, unfortunately. Still, I'm definitely not making any confident predictions at this point, I'll leave that to other users.

But I don't think Republicans should get their hopes up here, honestly.

The State Supreme Court race is an outright toss-up at this point. I don't even think we know who the candidates are yet, and the race is an officially non-partisan spring election. How people claim to know which party will win that is beyond me.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 17, 2017, 11:04:12 AM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.

Nah, of course not, but WI tends to be very favorable to Democrats in off-year elections, especially when a Republican is president. I still think Walker's race is Lean R for sure, but the Supreme Court race and the Senate race are probably Lean D at this point, unfortunately. Still, I'm definitely not making any confident predictions at this point, I'll leave that to other users.

But I don't think Republicans should get their hopes up here, honestly.

The State Supreme Court race is an outright toss-up at this point. I don't even think we know who the candidates are yet, and the race is an officially non-partisan spring election. How people claim to know which party will win that is beyond me.

Partisan redistricting Crt fight in WI and PA will influence the outcomes of these elections in the Democrats favor. The GOP has maxed many of its gains.  Don't forget the Trump GOP bill that gets rid of medicaid expansion, is the same bill Walker championed(Expanding Obamacare) in his reelection fight.  Dems have reason to believe they will win in 2018.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: TJ in Oregon on June 17, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.

Nah, of course not, but WI tends to be very favorable to Democrats in off-year elections, especially when a Republican is president. I still think Walker's race is Lean R for sure, but the Supreme Court race and the Senate race are probably Lean D at this point, unfortunately. Still, I'm definitely not making any confident predictions at this point, I'll leave that to other users.

But I don't think Republicans should get their hopes up here, honestly.

The State Supreme Court race is an outright toss-up at this point. I don't even think we know who the candidates are yet, and the race is an officially non-partisan spring election. How people claim to know which party will win that is beyond me.

Partisan redistricting Crt fight in WI and PA will influence the outcomes of these elections in the Democrats favor. The GOP has maxed many of its gains.  Don't forget the Trump GOP bill that gets rid of medicaid expansion, is the same bill Walker championed(Expanding Obamacare) in his reelection fight.  Dems have reason to believe they will win in 2018.

Oh, I think Tammy Baldwin will win. But the Supreme Court is a non-partisan spring election often done by itself. Its dynamics could be very isolated from the larger context.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 17, 2017, 11:40:12 AM
The same people predicting this race and other Wisconsin races as Democrat pickups are those who pronounced Ron Johnson dead on arrival. I just thought I better mention that.

Nah, of course not, but WI tends to be very favorable to Democrats in off-year elections, especially when a Republican is president. I still think Walker's race is Lean R for sure, but the Supreme Court race and the Senate race are probably Lean D at this point, unfortunately. Still, I'm definitely not making any confident predictions at this point, I'll leave that to other users.

But I don't think Republicans should get their hopes up here, honestly.

The State Supreme Court race is an outright toss-up at this point. I don't even think we know who the candidates are yet, and the race is an officially non-partisan spring election. How people claim to know which party will win that is beyond me.

Partisan redistricting Crt fight in WI and PA will influence the outcomes of these elections in the Democrats favor. The GOP has maxed many of its gains.  Don't forget the Trump GOP bill that gets rid of medicaid expansion, is the same bill Walker championed(Expanding Obamacare) in his reelection fight.  Dems have reason to believe they will win in 2018.

Oh, I think Tammy Baldwin will win. But the Supreme Court is a non-partisan spring election often done by itself. Its dynamics could be very isolated from the larger context.

I think Dems/lefties missed out greatly by not putting up a challenger in this year's race. The anti-Trump folks were in high gear supporting Evers and they might have been able to push a challenger over the top.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 17, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
Kathleen Vinehout is a challenger that Dems will put up.  And WI tend to lean one way or the other at the end.  I do hope the Dems steal this race from Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on June 17, 2017, 05:19:04 PM
Oh, I think Tammy Baldwin will win. But the Supreme Court is a non-partisan spring election often done by itself. Its dynamics could be very isolated from the larger context.

Hopefully you're right, but my impression is that the fact that the election is "non-partisan" actually helps Democrats quite a bit. Also, it's an off-year special election, which means Democrats should do better than in a normal midterm. I'm just worried that this will turn out like all those PA Supreme Court elections, but we'll see.

Btw: Who do you think would be the strongest Republican challenger to Baldwin? Eric Hovde? I think the race can be won by the GOP, but a lot would have to go right for them to have a chance.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on June 19, 2017, 01:08:01 PM
Lt. Gov Rebecca Kleefisch will not run for the Senate seat, will run again for Lt. Gov.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: krazen1211 on June 19, 2017, 05:37:06 PM
No redistricting for Wisconsin! Big Neil G to the rescue.

Link (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/19/supreme-court-to-hear-partisan-gerrymandering-case-239710)


The justices voted 5-4 to stay a requirement that the state file a new redistricting plan by Nov. 1. All four justices nominated by Democratic presidents dissented.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on June 19, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
There's no real big House races and the Gov race is a foregone conclusion.  But, the one in PA with PA 06, 07 and 08 at stake will matter in control of the House.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: krazen1211 on June 19, 2017, 08:23:26 PM
There's no real big House races and the Gov race is a foregone conclusion.  But, the one in PA with PA 06, 07 and 08 at stake will matter in control of the House.

PA-17 is a district that Trump won by 10 points that will have to expand by something like 80k red voters.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: RogueBeaver on June 28, 2017, 10:40:15 AM
Vinehout exploring. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/kathleen-vinehout-registers-committee-to-run-for-governor/article_899852e5-d99a-5b81-b0b9-d2524df6199b.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on June 28, 2017, 01:11:42 PM
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Gov. Scott Walker: job approval 48%, disapproval 48%. In March, it was 45%-48%. #mulawpoll

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First MU Law poll since Oct 2014 in which Walker disapproval was not higher than approval. #mulawpoll

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Sen. Tammy Baldwin: 38% approval, 38% disapproval. In March, it was 40%-35%. #mulawpoll

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Sen. Ron Johnson: 39% approval, 32% disapproval. In March, it was 39%-34%. #mulawpoll

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Speaker Paul Ryan: 44% favorable, 44% unfavorable. In October, it was 45%-38%. #mulawpoll

Full results: http://law.marquette.edu/poll/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: BudgieForce on June 28, 2017, 01:13:23 PM
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Gov. Scott Walker: job approval 48%, disapproval 48%. In March, it was 45%-48%. #mulawpoll

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First MU Law poll since Oct 2014 in which Walker disapproval was not higher than approval. #mulawpoll

Wisconsin deserves him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: heatcharger on June 28, 2017, 01:16:08 PM
Hopefully we'll be able to triage this stupid state in favor of Arizona soon enough.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: BudgieForce on June 28, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
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Gov. Scott Walker: job approval 48%, disapproval 48%. In March, it was 45%-48%. #mulawpoll

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First MU Law poll since Oct 2014 in which Walker disapproval was not higher than approval. #mulawpoll

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Sen. Tammy Baldwin: 38% approval, 38% disapproval. In March, it was 40%-35%. #mulawpoll

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Sen. Ron Johnson: 39% approval, 32% disapproval. In March, it was 39%-34%. #mulawpoll

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Speaker Paul Ryan: 44% favorable, 44% unfavorable. In October, it was 45%-38%. #mulawpoll

Full results: http://law.marquette.edu/poll/

Most of that seems like MoE more than anything else.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: krazen1211 on June 28, 2017, 02:36:09 PM
Tammy Baldwin must be scared with only 38%!

Walker will win again by 5.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on July 18, 2017, 11:00:18 PM
Kind of old news, but this broke the day after the last post in this thread: Vinehout has formed an exploratory committee.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/kathleen-vinehout-registers-committee-to-run-for-governor/article_899852e5-d99a-5b81-b0b9-d2524df6199b.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Evers is in
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2017, 01:26:24 PM
Tony Evers is in:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Evers is in
Post by: GlobeSoc on July 21, 2017, 01:36:44 PM

Vinehout exploring. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/kathleen-vinehout-registers-committee-to-run-for-governor/article_899852e5-d99a-5b81-b0b9-d2524df6199b.html)

Could Vinehout enter a downballot race?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: KingSweden on July 21, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
Evers is a good get. Still have this as Lean R though


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2017, 01:49:58 PM
Best thing about Evers is even if he loses he still gets to stay on as the State Superintendent and would have 3 years before he'd have to run again.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on July 21, 2017, 02:18:51 PM
He's probably the best Democrats are going to get, so that's good.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MasterJedi on July 21, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
He's probably the best Democrats are going to get, so that's good.

That's likely Vinehout.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on July 21, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
Evers!!!!??? Oh yeah! I'm all in for him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on July 21, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
He's probably the best Democrats are going to get, so that's good.

That's likely Vinehout.

I like them both, and since I'm not in Wisconsin I don't need to choose. Evers does have a track record of statewide landslides though, most recently his 40% romp a few months ago. Voters know him and have voted for him before. He's inoffensive and has a winnig coalition.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on July 21, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
He's probably the best Democrats are going to get, so that's good.

That's likely Vinehout.

I like them both, and since I'm not in Wisconsin I don't need to choose. Evers does have a track record of statewide landslides though, most recently his 40% romp a few months ago. Voters know him and have voted for him before. He's inoffensive and has a winnig coalition.

It's landslides in nonpartisan races (no party label) that take place in the spring. A positive for Evers, but not a be all end all.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 15, 2017, 09:09:16 AM
A new candidate has thrown his hat into the ring, Dana Wachs (D- Eau Claire).

https://www.danawachs.com

He has been making waves in my newsfeed and seems to have a solid image among those who know him. It seems like Wisconsin is drawing some good challengers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: mcmikk on August 15, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
I'm not about to go through this 38 page thread so I don't know for sure. Has anyone mentioned Andy Gronik yet?

https://andygronik.com/

He's a progressive businessman who wants to restore collective bargaining rights stripped away by Walker, wants to accept the ACA money Walker rejected, among other things. I don't think he has any particular aspect of him that sets him apart from other potential challengers, but what do you guys think of him? How would he fare in a primary/general election?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 15, 2017, 04:43:49 PM
I'm not about to go through this 38 page thread so I don't know for sure. Has anyone mentioned Andy Gronik yet?

https://andygronik.com/

He's a progressive businessman who wants to restore collective bargaining rights stripped away by Walker, wants to accept the ACA money Walker rejected, among other things. I don't think he has any particular aspect of him that sets him apart from other potential challengers, but what do you guys think of him? How would he fare in a primary/general election?

Generic and running on unions as the main message may be a negative in Wisconsin at this point. Evers is definitely much better.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 16, 2017, 05:51:17 PM
Any updates on Soglin's potential entrance into the Governor's race?

Nope, and I hope there isn't any.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: mcmikk on August 17, 2017, 12:09:12 AM
Any updates on Soglin's potential entrance into the Governor's race?

Nope, and I hope there isn't any.
Being a longtime mayor and a "muh Madison libruhl" would sink him instantly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 20, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
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In Wisconsin, 38% have a positive opinion of U.S. Senator Tammy Baldwin. 33% have an
unfavorable one, and 30% have either never heard of her or are unsure how to rate Baldwin.

Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s favorable score is upside, 39% to 53%. Seven percent
have either never heard of Walker or are unsure how to rate him.


http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/PAPolls/PA170813/NBC%20News_Marist%20Poll_Michigan_Wisconsin_Pennsylvania_Written%20Summary%20of%20Findings_August%202017.pdf

That's actually pretty bad for Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Holmes on August 20, 2017, 11:05:06 AM
That's two recent polls with Walker's numbers underwater. Maybe he's ot as invincible as some people think.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on August 20, 2017, 11:56:15 AM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016, and Marquette showed much better numbers for Walker. He definitely isn't "finished", lol.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Pollster on August 20, 2017, 12:04:46 PM
Has Russ Feingold ruled this race out?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Gass3268 on August 20, 2017, 03:02:40 PM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016, and Marquette showed much better numbers for Walker. He definitely isn't "finished", lol.

Even if you add 5 points for potential hidden Republicans, its still terrible. Also the Marquette poll was before the $3,000,000,000 Foxconn boondoggle.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 20, 2017, 03:03:42 PM
Has Russ Feingold ruled this race out?

Not to my knowledge, but we have good candidates in the running or mulling to run already, namely Vinehout and Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Virginiá on August 20, 2017, 03:34:10 PM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016

Which states? I couldn't find any for Wisconsin/Michigan. There are ones for Illinois in like March and one for Iowa in August. The IA poll didn't seem that out of step with what you might expect then.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: PragmaticPopulist on August 20, 2017, 03:56:55 PM
In the Marist Poll of PA, MI, and WI, Trump is furthest in negative territory in WI. That probably won't bode well for the WI GOP. Maybe 2018 will be like 2010, where WI went from a D trifecta to and R trifecta in a single election, except it goes from an R trifecta to a D trifecta.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on August 20, 2017, 04:00:08 PM
In the Marist Poll of PA, MI, and WI, Trump is furthest in negative territory in WI. That probably won't bode well for the WI GOP. Maybe 2018 will be like 2010, where WI went from a D trifecta to and R trifecta in a single election, except it goes from an R trifecta to a D trifecta.

As much as I'd like to dream, that's extreamly unlikely.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Kamala on August 20, 2017, 04:20:40 PM
Ugh, if only Vinehout hadn't been in that car crash in 2014. She'd have been a much much better candidate than the Some Lady Mary Burke, and could've replicated Tom Wolf's victory, especially thanks to her appeal to western Wisconsin.

Then she would probably cruise to reelection in 2018, everything being the same, and probably be on veep shortlists or even an outside presidential campaign in 2020.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Xing on August 20, 2017, 05:26:42 PM
That's two recent polls with Walker's numbers underwater. Maybe he's ot as invincible as some people think.

He's obviously not safe. If 2018 is a bad year for Republicans and Democrats land a decent candidate (granted neither of those are given), muh "WI GOP machine" isn't going to be enough to save him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: MT Treasurer on August 21, 2017, 12:20:05 AM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016

Which states? I couldn't find any for Wisconsin/Michigan. There are ones for Illinois in like March and one for Iowa in August. The IA poll didn't seem that out of step with what you might expect then.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=242977.0

Also:

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

But yeah, they didn't poll WI in 2016. It was Marquette that showed Clinton up 6 in November, not NBC/Marist.

Look, I'm not saying he won't face a tough reelection battle, but it's way too early to count him out. Saying that there is no way he can win and basing it on numbers from a pollster who did poorly in 2016 and doing so 15 months before the election is ridiculous. WI isn't IL, as I'm sure Ron Johnson will tell you.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: mcmikk on August 21, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016

Which states? I couldn't find any for Wisconsin/Michigan. There are ones for Illinois in like March and one for Iowa in August. The IA poll didn't seem that out of step with what you might expect then.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=242977.0

Also:

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

But yeah, they didn't poll WI in 2016. It was Marquette that showed Clinton up 6 in November, not NBC/Marist.

Look, I'm not saying he won't face a tough reelection battle, but it's way too early to count him out. Saying that there is no way he can win and basing it on numbers from a pollster who did poorly in 2016 and doing so 15 months before the election is ridiculous. WI isn't IL, as I'm sure Ron Johnson will tell you.

I'm still bitter about Ron Johnson...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: pbrower2a on August 21, 2017, 07:09:41 AM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016

Which states? I couldn't find any for Wisconsin/Michigan. There are ones for Illinois in like March and one for Iowa in August. The IA poll didn't seem that out of step with what you might expect then.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=242977.0

Also:

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

But yeah, they didn't poll WI in 2016. It was Marquette that showed Clinton up 6 in November, not NBC/Marist.

Look, I'm not saying he won't face a tough reelection battle, but it's way too early to count him out. Saying that there is no way he can win and basing it on numbers from a pollster who did poorly in 2016 and doing so 15 months before the election is ridiculous. WI isn't IL, as I'm sure Ron Johnson will tell you.

I'm still bitter about Ron Johnson...

One of the best Senators money can buy -- an empty suit who believes that no human suffering is excessive so long as it enriches and pampers elites.

The 2016 election made me regret that I am an American.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Parisi not running
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 21, 2017, 08:59:22 AM
Marist did terribly in the Midwest in 2016

Which states? I couldn't find any for Wisconsin/Michigan. There are ones for Illinois in like March and one for Iowa in August. The IA poll didn't seem that out of step with what you might expect then.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=242977.0

Also:

It should be noted that NBC News/Marist had Hillary winning PA by 12 points in mid-October.

But yeah, they didn't poll WI in 2016. It was Marquette that showed Clinton up 6 in November, not NBC/Marist.

Look, I'm not saying he won't face a tough reelection battle, but it's way too early to count him out. Saying that there is no way he can win and basing it on numbers from a pollster who did poorly in 2016 and doing so 15 months before the election is ridiculous. WI isn't IL, as I'm sure Ron Johnson will tell you.

I'm still bitter about Ron Johnson...

Same :/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: MasterJedi on August 22, 2017, 08:39:07 AM
Evers declaring his campaign for Governor so it's official. Vinehout is the best choice IMO but he's not a bad one either, he's not that offensive to anyone.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: windjammer on August 22, 2017, 08:44:14 AM
Evers declaring his campaign for Governor so it's official. Vinehout is the best choice IMO but he's not a bad one either, he's not that offensive to anyone.
She's going to run or that is unlikely?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: MasterJedi on August 22, 2017, 08:46:06 AM
Evers declaring his campaign for Governor so it's official. Vinehout is the best choice IMO but he's not a bad one either, he's not that offensive to anyone.
She's going to run or that is unlikely?

She has an exploratory committee and I've heard there are signs for her in Madison area, I'd say she'll run but not official yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on August 22, 2017, 08:48:27 AM
Evers declaring his campaign for Governor so it's official. Vinehout is the best choice IMO but he's not a bad one either, he's not that offensive to anyone.
She's going to run or that is unlikely?

She has an exploratory committee and I've heard there are signs for her in Madison area, I'd say she'll run but not official yet.

I think she runs too, but Wachs running raises some doubts for me. I don't know if he would run if Vinehout was considering their territory overlaps.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: windjammer on August 22, 2017, 08:51:19 AM
Has Walker become more vulnerable?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on August 22, 2017, 09:01:23 AM
Some PPP polls by State Senate District:

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Walker even or popular in Central Wisconsin and unpopular in Western Wisconsin. Vinehout or Wachs would be a great to exploit that unpopularity in that region.




Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 22, 2017, 09:11:37 AM
Yeah, Wachs is a surprise, but I still think Evers is the best shot even though Vinehout has a fair bit of excitement behind her even though she hasn't declared yet, officially that is.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: PragmaticPopulist on August 22, 2017, 09:11:48 AM
Some PPP polls by State Senate District:

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Walker even or popular in Central Wisconsin and unpopular in Western Wisconsin. Vinehout or Wachs would be a great to exploit that unpopularity in that region.



Interesting, because Western Wisconsin has been drifting rightward over the past decade. It could trickle into congressional races, making Ron Kind in WI-03 safe (I suspected the NRCC would give him a pass anyway), and could make Sean Duffy in WI-07 vulnerable.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Ebsy on August 23, 2017, 01:15:38 PM
Duffy should definitely have a serious challenger in the general. He probably won't lose, but he might, and congressional majorities are made up of "mights".


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Blackacre on August 23, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Wiki has former ambassador Daniel Speckhard as a potential candidate, whats the deal with him?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 24, 2017, 10:06:48 AM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 24, 2017, 01:59:08 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?

So far, I like how he's presenting himself. I'm a bit pushed back by the fact that he uses Trump's remarks on Walker during the primary, but it may be a great move for moderates. I think he knows what he's doing. He's been very successful.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Ebsy on August 24, 2017, 05:21:12 PM
We need some polls of Evers vs. Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Kingpoleon on August 24, 2017, 08:27:44 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think he has the looks for it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 24, 2017, 08:43:38 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?

So far, I like how he's presenting himself. I'm a bit pushed back by the fact that he uses Trump's remarks on Walker during the primary, but it may be a great move for moderates. I think he knows what he's doing. He's been very successful.

I thought those comments were particularly powerful. Even if Trump remains unpopular in Wisconsin next year, it'd be malpractice not to use that against Walker next year, particularly in Trumpy areas like western Wisconsin.

Yeah, that's what I mean by "he knows what he's doing." He understands the state well, so I'm trusting his moves here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 24, 2017, 09:41:33 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?

So far, I like how he's presenting himself. I'm a bit pushed back by the fact that he uses Trump's remarks on Walker during the primary, but it may be a great move for moderates. I think he knows what he's doing. He's been very successful.

I thought those comments were particularly powerful. Even if Trump remains unpopular in Wisconsin next year, it'd be malpractice not to use that against Walker next year, particularly in Trumpy areas like western Wisconsin.

Yeah, that's what I mean by "he knows what he's doing." He understands the state well, so I'm trusting his moves here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: BuckeyeNut on August 24, 2017, 11:55:40 PM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on August 25, 2017, 06:29:25 AM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

No need to sound "fired up" in local Wisconsin politics. It's practically the norm to be exactly the opposite.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Kingpoleon on August 25, 2017, 06:43:52 AM
Kathleen Vinehout sounds fine to me... Is Dave Cieslewicz or Chris Abele likely to end up on the bottom of the Democratic ticket?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: BuckeyeNut on August 25, 2017, 09:00:17 AM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

No need to sound "fired up" in local Wisconsin politics. It's practically the norm to be exactly the opposite.

Really? We saw how control v emotion worked out the last cycle.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 25, 2017, 09:41:41 AM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

No need to sound "fired up" in local Wisconsin politics. It's practically the norm to be exactly the opposite.

Really? We saw how control v emotion worked out the last cycle.
Yes, but at the same time 45 carried Wisconsin, we reelected a dead-behind-the-eyes, cookie cutter Republican as our Senator over Russ freakin' Feingold. Ron Johnson doesn't exactly have much in the charisma department.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 25, 2017, 09:42:14 AM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

To be fair, people have to take Viagra to feel excited about Scott Walker
lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: UncleSam on August 25, 2017, 10:34:04 AM
Those PPP pos with their leading questions on Foxconn THEN the questions on environmental policy hahaha that's practically polling industry malpractice

Like that's actually so amateurish it's insane, I have to believe they did that on purpose.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Ebsy on August 25, 2017, 06:44:44 PM
Those PPP pos with their leading questions on Foxconn THEN the questions on environmental policy hahaha that's practically polling industry malpractice

Like that's actually so amateurish it's insane, I have to believe they did that on purpose.
Yeah but that is all after the toplines so who really cares?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Young Conservative on August 25, 2017, 07:59:05 PM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

No need to sound "fired up" in local Wisconsin politics. It's practically the norm to be exactly the opposite.

Really? We saw how control v emotion worked out the last cycle.
Yes, but at the same time 45 carried Wisconsin, we reelected a dead-behind-the-eyes, cookie cutter Republican as our Senator over Russ freakin' Feingold. Ron Johnson doesn't exactly have much in the charisma department.
Johnson has charisma in the same way Walker does: perfect, aggressive normality.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 25, 2017, 08:32:43 PM
I love Evers' message, but he needs to be able to sound fired up, which I never got in the video.

No need to sound "fired up" in local Wisconsin politics. It's practically the norm to be exactly the opposite.

Really? We saw how control v emotion worked out the last cycle.
Yes, but at the same time 45 carried Wisconsin, we reelected a dead-behind-the-eyes, cookie cutter Republican as our Senator over Russ freakin' Feingold. Ron Johnson doesn't exactly have much in the charisma department.
Johnson has charisma in the same way Walker does: perfect, aggressive normality.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Nhoj on August 30, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think he has the looks for it.
have you seen what Wi Gov's look like?

Anyways why are people surprised Walker is unpopular when we still don't have a budget?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on August 30, 2017, 10:03:07 PM
So it appears that Tony Evers is in. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWpWqVg5SvQ&ab_channel=TonyForWisconsin) He officially announced yesterday. He made a 15 minute announcement speech where he espoused many progressive values and he often seemed to link his ideas back to children and his career in education. He also made a 3 minute video which I have linked to here. What do y'all think of it?
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't think he has the looks for it.
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: _ on August 31, 2017, 07:33:38 AM
Haha this is it guys, we've finally got Walker doomed, he's dead.

Note:  This is sarcasm, I seriously doubt Walker goes down next year, Lean R but closer to tossup this time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: windjammer on August 31, 2017, 07:52:01 AM
Haha this is it guys, we've finally got Walker doomed, he's dead.
???


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on August 31, 2017, 07:52:23 AM
Haha this is it guys, we've finally got Walker doomed, he's dead.
Walker's chances I think are lower than they were in 2012 and 2014, but he really isn't doomed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: GlobeSoc on August 31, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
http://www.cbs58.com/news/milwaukee-county-sheriff-david-clarke-has-resigned (http://www.cbs58.com/news/milwaukee-county-sheriff-david-clarke-has-resigned)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: MasterJedi on September 19, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
1. Walker said he will likely announce on November 3.

2. Clarke has to fix his thesis or he could have it taken away. HAHAHA


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Figueira on September 20, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Tilt R at this point. My main concern was that Democrats didn't have a strong candidate, but Evers looks reasonably strong.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 20, 2017, 08:41:38 PM
Tilt R at this point. My main concern was that Democrats didn't have a strong candidate, but Evers looks reasonably strong.

Evers is as strong as they get. He's a top recruitment.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Ye We Can on September 22, 2017, 09:58:16 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if this goes D. Is Vinehout gonna run against Evers?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Xing on September 23, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
No one's saying that Walker is done for, but I think a lot of us are realizing that he actually is vulnerable and could lose, provided someone like Evers proves to be a good candidate. Still Tilt R, but well see what happens.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Koharu on September 24, 2017, 05:14:11 PM
It just doesn't seem like there's a good Dem who is strong enough to pull together the party here. Everything is so fractured. As it stands, I see a really low turnout on the Dem side for the primary and things not pulling together before the general. Walker could win just because the Dems can't get their act together at the state level.

I'm also terribly afraid for Tammy Baldwin. She's done excellently, but if the Dem turnout is low because of the previously mentioned governor mess, she's toast.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: TheSaint250 on September 24, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
It just doesn't seem like there's a good Dem who is strong enough to pull together the party here. Everything is so fractured. As it stands, I see a really low turnout on the Dem side for the primary and things not pulling together before the general. Walker could win just because the Dems can't get their act together at the state level.

I'm also terribly afraid for Tammy Baldwin. She's done excellently, but if the Dem turnout is low because of the previously mentioned governor mess, she's toast.

I think Baldwin will be fine. crossover appeal(?)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on September 25, 2017, 06:57:46 AM
It just doesn't seem like there's a good Dem who is strong enough to pull together the party here. Everything is so fractured. As it stands, I see a really low turnout on the Dem side for the primary and things not pulling together before the general. Walker could win just because the Dems can't get their act together at the state level.

I'm also terribly afraid for Tammy Baldwin. She's done excellently, but if the Dem turnout is low because of the previously mentioned governor mess, she's toast.

I think Baldwin will be fine. crossover appeal(?)
>implying The Plank has any crossover appeal as a gay female uber-leftie, she's no Herb Kohl.

I do think she's still favored at the moment because I still believe Wisconsin is a battleground, not suddenly Titanium R, but 2018 will be a big test to see if Wisconsin is truly shifting to the right for good or if it will remain a major battleground.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Littlefinger on September 25, 2017, 04:04:03 PM
Kathleen Vinehout officially in

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/  (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Kamala on September 25, 2017, 04:07:03 PM
Kathleen Vinehout officially in

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/  (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/)

I like her more than Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 25, 2017, 04:09:08 PM
Kathleen Vinehout officially in

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/  (http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/25/wisconsin-sen-kathleen-vinehout-latest-democrat-run-governor/699981001/)

I like her more than Evers.

We have good options.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Nhoj on September 27, 2017, 02:41:27 AM
So the WI GOP is running radio ads thanking Walker for his tax cuts apparently. Perhaps trying to boost his approvals ahead of his reelection campaign announcement.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on September 27, 2017, 11:50:35 AM
I'm currently torn between Vinehout and Wachs.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: MasterJedi on September 28, 2017, 09:26:23 AM
All three are strong candidates, will support Vinehout and vote for whoever wins in the end.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 28, 2017, 10:30:40 AM
All three are strong candidates, will support Vinehout and vote for whoever wins in the end.

What makes you favor Vinehout over Wachs or Evers?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: redjohn on September 28, 2017, 11:37:17 AM
It says a lot about the state of WI Dems when Evers is the best candidate. Walker will win, probably by a larger margin than 2014.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 28, 2017, 11:41:03 AM
It says a lot about the state of WI Dems when Evers is the best candidate. Walker will win, probably by a larger margin than 2014.

uh... lol.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: UncleSam on September 28, 2017, 11:54:15 AM
While Evers is a bad candidate for Governor, I doubt Walker will win by much if he wins at all. WI is super elastic and the most traditionally Democratic of the Trump Rust Belt states.

Of course, WI is also shifting right so that'll give help Walker, and IMO Walker is a clear favorite. But the polarization and traditional liberalism run deep in WI, and there's no chance of a landslide imo


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: MasterJedi on September 29, 2017, 07:11:16 AM
All three are strong candidates, will support Vinehout and vote for whoever wins in the end.

What makes you favor Vinehout over Wachs or Evers?

She's liberal enough for the party but not from Milwaukee or Madison so can't be painted as such by Walker and the party. She's also from an area of the state the party needs to win to beat Walker and can relate to rural issues more.


On a side note, reported today that Vos told Walker he wouldn't forget the vetoes he made in the budget. Got the Republican morons coming out in waves thinking Vos is a liberal and then when corrected stating he's a RINO. So little intelligence in these guys.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on October 16, 2017, 10:30:54 AM
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Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on October 16, 2017, 11:03:07 AM
Governor Evers when


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 16, 2017, 11:04:33 AM
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Jason Stein‏
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@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.

That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on October 16, 2017, 11:19:45 AM
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Jason Stein‏
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Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.
That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.
What about him makes you say that?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 16, 2017, 11:30:24 AM
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Jason Stein‏
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@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.
That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.
What about him makes you say that?

He knows the electorate well, and his election results/rhetoric backs that up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 16, 2017, 11:43:09 AM
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Jason Stein‏
Verified account
@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.

That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.

I wonder if Evers will try to convince Vinehout to run in the LG primary as sort of a unity non-Madison/Milwaukee-based ticket. I think they'd be well-balanced geographically.

That would be an interesting choice, and would absolutely neutralize Walker's talking points.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on October 16, 2017, 07:56:32 PM
Quote
Jason Stein‏
Verified account
@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.

That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.

I wonder if Evers will try to convince Vinehout to run in the LG primary as sort of a unity non-Madison/Milwaukee-based ticket. I think they'd be well-balanced geographically.

That would be an interesting choice, and would absolutely neutralize Walker's talking points.
I say that would be a good idea. Evers is a much stronger and more personally preferable candidate than Vinehout imo, but Republicans attacks on "muh Madison/Milwaukee liberal urban elite" would be less strong if the whole ticket hailed from outside there(doesn't mean they won't try, but still). Excited to see the Kohl endorsement. I wonder if Evers will have access to any of that sweet sweet Herb Kohl money.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Holmes on October 16, 2017, 07:57:54 PM

January 2019


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 16, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
Quote
Jason Stein‏
Verified account
@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.

That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.

I wonder if Evers will try to convince Vinehout to run in the LG primary as sort of a unity non-Madison/Milwaukee-based ticket. I think they'd be well-balanced geographically.

That would be an interesting choice, and would absolutely neutralize Walker's talking points.
*snip* I wonder if Evers will have access to any of that sweet sweet Herb Kohl money.

I highly doubt it since Dan Kohl is running a pretty competitive congressional campaign against Grothman.  That's probably the priority for the Kohl family this cycle.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Wiz in Wis on October 17, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Quote
Jason Stein‏
Verified account
@jasonmdstein

Former U.S. Herb Kohl is about to endorse @WISuptTonyEvers in the Democratic primary for governor, one of the bigger endorsements so far.

That's BIG, but it doesn't surprise me. Evers is a powerhouse in Wisconsin.

I wonder if Evers will try to convince Vinehout to run in the LG primary as sort of a unity non-Madison/Milwaukee-based ticket. I think they'd be well-balanced geographically.

That would be an interesting choice, and would absolutely neutralize Walker's talking points.
*snip* I wonder if Evers will have access to any of that sweet sweet Herb Kohl money.

I highly doubt it since Dan Kohl is running a pretty competitive congressional campaign against Grothman.  That's probably the priority for the Kohl family this cycle.

You know Herb is personally worth several hundred million, right... I think he could drop a lot in two places.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Wiz in Wis on October 17, 2017, 11:56:51 AM
Evers has to be the favorite right now, if only because Wachs and Vinehout share a regional base, and Wachs just got endorsed by Dave Obey.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on October 19, 2017, 06:41:44 AM
Evers has to be the favorite right now, if only because Wachs and Vinehout share a regional base, and Wachs just got endorsed by Dave Obey.

Evers really should probably point out to Vinehout that she probably has no chance in the primary and get her to run as his LG. She'd help him balance the ticket with a woman and she's from a key part of the state.
I agree, plus the WI GOP can't attack them very well for being "muh liberal Madison elitists" and Democrats don't want to have a super competitive primary. Imo Evers is my personal favorite and also the favorite to win the nomination. I think he would be a stronger GE candidate than Vinehout.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: mcmikk on October 19, 2017, 06:44:34 AM
Evers has to be the favorite right now, if only because Wachs and Vinehout share a regional base, and Wachs just got endorsed by Dave Obey.

Wait, is the Obey endorsement supposed to be a negative or am I reading this wrong...?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: VPH on October 19, 2017, 10:23:09 AM
I quite like Wachs, but Evers definitely looks to be the frontrunner.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 19, 2017, 10:34:40 AM
Evers has to be the favorite right now, if only because Wachs and Vinehout share a regional base, and Wachs just got endorsed by Dave Obey.

Evers really should probably point out to Vinehout that she probably has no chance in the primary and get her to run as his LG. She'd help him balance the ticket with a woman and she's from a key part of the state.
I agree, plus the WI GOP can't attack them very well for being "muh liberal Madison elitists" and Democrats don't want to have a super competitive primary. Imo Evers is my personal favorite and also the favorite to win the nomination. I think he would be a stronger GE candidate than Vinehout.

My thoughts


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Gass3268 on October 26, 2017, 09:56:00 AM
Scott Walker 43%
Democratic Opponent 48%

Source (https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PPP_Release_Wisconsin102617.pdf)

Evers is as close as you get to "Generic Democrat" or "Democratic Opponent."


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gass3268 on October 26, 2017, 10:02:14 AM
Walkers Approval:

Approve 43%
Disapprove 49%

One of the more tricky numbers for Walker:

Do you think Scott Walker is too supportive of Donald Trump, not supportive enough of Trump, or supports Trump about the right amount?
44% Too supportive ................................................
13% Not supportive enough ....................................
35% About the right amount .................................... 
8% Not sure ..........................................................


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Gass3268 on October 26, 2017, 10:13:25 AM
Tossup. It's criminal negligence if Dems don't run ads of Trump bashing Walker in rural/suburbs

Claire McCaskill would do it


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater
Post by: Gustaf on October 26, 2017, 11:26:13 AM

The potential for Governor Whenevers is pretty good there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Free Bird on October 27, 2017, 06:18:18 AM
Again measuring the drapes a year out. Governor Burke approves.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on October 27, 2017, 07:31:17 AM
Again measuring the drapes a year out. Governor Burke approves.

IIRC, Burke was always considered the underdog. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Wiz in Wis on October 27, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
At this point in 2013, PPP had Burke down 6 to Walker:

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/voters-split-on-walker-he-leads-head-to-heads/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Figueira on October 27, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Let's avoid drape-measuring, but Evers vs. Walker sounds like a tossup to me.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: IceSpear on October 27, 2017, 04:47:20 PM
Again measuring the drapes a year out. Governor Burke approves.

IIRC, Burke was always considered the underdog. 

Yeah, Gov. Crist would fit better. Or if you want to stick to WI, Gov. Barret.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on October 27, 2017, 06:24:24 PM
Again measuring the drapes a year out. Governor Burke approves.
Excitement is not measuring drapes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on October 27, 2017, 06:29:40 PM

That sounds like a proverb. :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: The Other Castro on October 31, 2017, 09:44:43 PM
"Madison Mayor Paul Soglin says he will 'most likely' run for governor in 2018"

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Madison Mayor Paul Soglin said Tuesday he will “most likely” run for governor and will make a formal announcement in early 2018.

In an interview with the Cap Times, Soglin said he wanted to see the city budget formalized and adopted in early November and then wait beyond end-of-year holidays to when people are paying more attention to public affairs.

“I’ll have an announcement after the first of the year and it is most likely I will run,” Soglin said.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/madison-mayor-paul-soglin-says-he-will-most-likely-run/article_7bdfbd6b-242f-5e11-ba96-74bfb0686ead.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 31, 2017, 09:59:46 PM
"Madison Mayor Paul Soglin says he will 'most likely' run for governor in 2018"

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Madison Mayor Paul Soglin said Tuesday he will “most likely” run for governor and will make a formal announcement in early 2018.

In an interview with the Cap Times, Soglin said he wanted to see the city budget formalized and adopted in early November and then wait beyond end-of-year holidays to when people are paying more attention to public affairs.

“I’ll have an announcement after the first of the year and it is most likely I will run,” Soglin said.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/madison-mayor-paul-soglin-says-he-will-most-likely-run/article_7bdfbd6b-242f-5e11-ba96-74bfb0686ead.html

Good lord, no, no, no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 31, 2017, 10:05:25 PM
What's the probability of him winning the primary if he enters?

Really low, or so I hope.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Gass3268 on October 31, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
What's the probability of him winning the primary if he enters?

Really low, or so I hope.

He'd probably get Bernie's endorsement.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 31, 2017, 10:13:16 PM
What's the probability of him winning the primary if he enters?

Really low, or so I hope.

He'd probably get Bernie's endorsement.

And I will gladly go against it. I really doubt Soglin has the chops to win the primary, much less the nomination. My main concern is how heavy a pull he has in Madison and how much of that he can replicate in the primary. He's been entrenched for a while.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: heatcharger on October 31, 2017, 10:33:33 PM
Arch, why don't you like him? Is it because he's a bad mayor or is the whole Castro support too much to handle?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Dr. Arch on October 31, 2017, 10:43:33 PM
Arch, why don't you like him? Is it because he's a bad mayor or is the whole Castro support too much to handle?

Hmm... how do I explain it. He's been an institution in Madison for way too long and supports questionable policies and takes questionable positions:

1) On Trump post-election:

https://isthmus.com/news/news/madison%E2%80%99s-lefty-mayor-has-hope-for-trump/

2) Attempting to implement measures to prevent the homeless from sleeping in certain areas rather than working to end the problem:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/mayor-paul-soglin-reintroduces-proposal-to-limit-sleeping-by-homeless/article_fdfb189a-23e1-5bc5-82fa-047d41505d89.html

3) Running his mouth on job creation (false claims)

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jul/05/paul-soglin/madison-mayor-understates-wisconsin-job-growth-ove/

So on and so forth. His ties to Castro won't help his image statewide, and the fact that he is literally THE MAYOR of Madison does nothing to stop Walker's electoral stupidity machine of "muh surrounded buh realituh."

Then there's the fact that he's been here for so long, and we've had other options, and we've ditched them in favor of keeping this guy in there. The older voters in the city, especially, love him.

I just think, no, I'm pretty sure he's going to end up being another Barrett should he win the primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: mcmikk on November 01, 2017, 05:35:47 PM
"Madison Mayor Paul Soglin says he will 'most likely' run for governor in 2018"

Quote
Madison Mayor Paul Soglin said Tuesday he will “most likely” run for governor and will make a formal announcement in early 2018.

In an interview with the Cap Times, Soglin said he wanted to see the city budget formalized and adopted in early November and then wait beyond end-of-year holidays to when people are paying more attention to public affairs.

“I’ll have an announcement after the first of the year and it is most likely I will run,” Soglin said.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/madison-mayor-paul-soglin-says-he-will-most-likely-run/article_7bdfbd6b-242f-5e11-ba96-74bfb0686ead.html
Dear god please no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: mcmikk on November 01, 2017, 05:36:36 PM
Arch, why don't you like him? Is it because he's a bad mayor or is the whole Castro support too much to handle?

Hmm... how do I explain it. He's been an institution in Madison for way too long and supports questionable policies and takes questionable positions:

1) On Trump post-election:

https://isthmus.com/news/news/madison%E2%80%99s-lefty-mayor-has-hope-for-trump/

2) Attempting to implement measures to prevent the homeless from sleeping in certain areas rather than working to end the problem:

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/mayor-paul-soglin-reintroduces-proposal-to-limit-sleeping-by-homeless/article_fdfb189a-23e1-5bc5-82fa-047d41505d89.html

3) Running his mouth on job creation (false claims)

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/jul/05/paul-soglin/madison-mayor-understates-wisconsin-job-growth-ove/

So on and so forth. His ties to Castro won't help his image statewide, and the fact that he is literally THE MAYOR of Madison does nothing to stop Walker's electoral stupidity machine of "muh surrounded buh realituh."

Then there's the fact that he's been here for so long, and we've had other options, and we've ditched them in favor of keeping this guy in there. The older voters in the city, especially, love him.

I just think, no, I'm pretty sure he's going to end up being another Barrett should he win the primary.
Also my thoughts exactly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - PPP has Walker down to Democratic Opponent
Post by: Wiz in Wis on November 02, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
As a Madison resident, I can say that Soglin's aura here is vastly overstated. He may win mayoral races against novices, but he's not going to get that advantage against someone like Tony Evers.

And if he DOES win the primary, I can say 100% we are screwed. Even if he wins the general, he's a giant piece of crap.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 13, 2017, 10:15:07 AM
Mahlon Mitchell, State President of The Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin, announces that he'll be running for Governor. (https://twitter.com/MahlonMitchell)

He was the LG candidate during the 2012 recall elections.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: MasterJedi on November 13, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
Mahlon Mitchell, State President of The Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin, announces that he'll be running for Governor. (https://twitter.com/MahlonMitchell)

He was the LG candidate during the 2012 recall elections.

I don't get why these relatively unknown politicians who clearly can't win will jump in and waste millions doing it.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 13, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
Mahlon Mitchell, State President of The Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin, announces that he'll be running for Governor. (https://twitter.com/MahlonMitchell)

He was the LG candidate during the 2012 recall elections.

I don't get why these relatively unknown politicians who clearly can't win will jump in and waste millions doing it.

Ego. They think they're too good for a state House or a state Senate seat, and they think they themselves are going to be the one who is going to beat the odds.

TBF to Mitchell, there are almost never open House or Senate seats in the Madison area.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 13, 2017, 01:19:34 PM
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Theo Keith‏
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@TheoKeith
1m

.@RepGwenMoore endorses @MahlonMitchell for governor. Was just announced by Moore's son, MKE Co Supervisor Supreme Moore Omokunde.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 13, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
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Theo Keith‏
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@TheoKeith
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.@RepGwenMoore endorses @MahlonMitchell for governor. Was just announced by Moore's son, MKE Co Supervisor Supreme Moore Omokunde.

K, don't care


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: henster on November 13, 2017, 09:26:29 PM
Mitchell seems like he can energize the Dem base much better than Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 13, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
Mitchell seems like he can energize the Dem base much better than Evers.

lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 17, 2017, 02:01:04 PM
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Patrick Marley‏
 
Former GOP state Sen. Mike Ellis assessed the Democratic field of candidates for governor today. I'll summarize it in this thread.

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Patrick Marley‏

He called @Tony4WI the frontrunner and a "heckuva nice guy."

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Patrick Marley‏

He said @McDenimRebel is a couple of steps down from Evers.

Ellis worked w/ McCabe on campaign finance reform for years.

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Patrick Marley‏

On @andygronik, Ellis said simply, "Forget it."

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Patrick Marley‏

He put @VinehoutK at the same level as McCabe, called her "very nice," intelligent and a "legitimate" candidate. But: "Nobody really knows who she is."

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Patrick Marley‏

Ellis on @DanaJWachs: "Never heard of him."

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Patrick Marley‏

Wachs and Ellis served in the Legislature together for four years (though in different houses).

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Ellis compared Matt Flynn to himself because they're both in their 70s.

"What do you do with a guy that's in his 70s," he joked.

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Patrick Marley‏

Of @MahlonMitchell, Ellis said, "No one remembers he ran for lieutenant governor" in the 2012 recall.

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Patrick Marley‏

Madison Mayor @Paulsoglin is also flirting with a run for governor. "I think he's just having some fun," Ellis said.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 17, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
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Patrick Marley‏
 
Former GOP state Sen. Mike Ellis assessed the Democratic field of candidates for governor today. I'll summarize it in this thread.

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Patrick Marley‏

He called @Tony4WI the frontrunner and a "heckuva nice guy."

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Patrick Marley‏

He said @McDenimRebel is a couple of steps down from Evers.

Ellis worked w/ McCabe on campaign finance reform for years.

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Patrick Marley‏

On @andygronik, Ellis said simply, "Forget it."

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Patrick Marley‏

He put @VinehoutK at the same level as McCabe, called her "very nice," intelligent and a "legitimate" candidate. But: "Nobody really knows who she is."

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Patrick Marley‏

Ellis on @DanaJWachs: "Never heard of him."

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Patrick Marley‏

Wachs and Ellis served in the Legislature together for four years (though in different houses).

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Patrick Marley‏

Ellis compared Matt Flynn to himself because they're both in their 70s.

"What do you do with a guy that's in his 70s," he joked.

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Patrick Marley‏

Of @MahlonMitchell, Ellis said, "No one remembers he ran for lieutenant governor" in the 2012 recall.

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Patrick Marley‏

Madison Mayor @Paulsoglin is also flirting with a run for governor. "I think he's just having some fun," Ellis said.
This guy is probably right, to be honest. Evers is by far the best candidate. Vinehout is second-best, Wachs I suppose is third, and everyone else running is a nobody.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on November 20, 2017, 12:59:35 PM
Evers is still the favorite, but I think Mitchell has a real chance in a very large field, if only because he will clean up in Milwaukee with Moore's machine behind him. He's also got the firefighters union. I'd put him at #2 right now, just past Vinehout.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 20, 2017, 01:12:37 PM
Evers is still the favorite, but I think Mitchell has a real chance in a very large field, if only because he will clean up in Milwaukee with Moore's machine behind him. He's also got the firefighters union. I'd put him at #2 right now, just past Vinehout.

Mitchell could probably get the possibly get the pull of all the unions in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: BuckeyeNut on November 20, 2017, 07:39:39 PM
How is the LtG determined in WI? Do candidates declare their intended at filing, or only after the primary? If the latter, would Evers/Vinehout be strong?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: henster on November 20, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Mitchell being the nominee helps Baldwin a lot, he might be able to fix Dems turnout problem with black voters in Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 20, 2017, 08:46:57 PM
Mitchell being the nominee helps Baldwin a lot, he might be able to fix Dems turnout problem with black voters in Milwaukee.

And simultaneously lose the governor's race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI GOP sues Evers, then prevents his getting a lawyer
Post by: mcmikk on November 24, 2017, 08:16:57 PM
The WI GOP really is the worst of the worst. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/11/22/gov-scott-walker-ag-brad-schimel-block-tony-evers-getting-his-own-attorney/890242001/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI GOP sues Evers, then prevents his getting a lawyer
Post by: junior chįmp on November 24, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
The WI GOP really is the worst of the worst. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2017/11/22/gov-scott-walker-ag-brad-schimel-block-tony-evers-getting-his-own-attorney/890242001/)

No match for the NYGOP...you'd think they'd soften up but nope


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 28, 2017, 07:32:56 AM
Tony Evers responded to this pretty well tbh. (https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/935147755399516160) Not sure if this is gonna change the minds of any #DrainTheSwamp folks, but oh well.

#bygolly


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 28, 2017, 08:22:39 AM
Tony Evers [urlhttps://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/935147755399516160]responded to this pretty well tbh.[/url] Not sure if this is gonna change the minds of any #DrainTheSwamp folks, but oh well.

#bygolly

Walker is scum.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 28, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
Tony Evers [urlhttps://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/935147755399516160]responded to this pretty well tbh.[/url] Not sure if this is gonna change the minds of any #DrainTheSwamp folks, but oh well.

#bygolly

Walker is scum.
Shocker. I'd rather Vukmir win the primary so I can watch her get clobbered along with the rest of the state GOP establishment. Opportunist Trumpists like Nicholson are preferable to the WI GOP.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on November 28, 2017, 06:08:49 PM
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Tony Evers- 49.4%

Scott Walker- 48.8%

what do WIers think


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 28, 2017, 06:17:18 PM

Tony Evers- 49.4%

Scott Walker- 48.8%

what do WIers think

I think Evers can easily break 50% with that map. He'd probably pick up Door County and Racine.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: IceSpear on November 28, 2017, 06:22:18 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 28, 2017, 06:24:10 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

No. He's plagued by FoxConn backroom deals, the attorney scandal with Evers, and the fact that nothing positive has really gotten done in the last 8 years. If Wisconsin follows suit with its history, it should flip.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 28, 2017, 06:55:41 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

No. He's plagued by FoxConn backroom deals, the attorney scandal with Evers, and the fact that nothing positive has really gotten done in the last 8 years. If Wisconsin follows suit with its history, it should flip.
This. Not to mention he has some pretty bad numbers to be going into 2018 with (https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PPP_Release_Wisconsin102617.pdf), and liberals have some pretty good numbers. Democrats have a bouquet of issues that they can go to town on Walker with. Foxconn, obviously, but also infrastructure, education(Evers would be good at that), gerrymandering, Medicaid expansion, etc.

The PPP poll I linked to has Medicaid expansion at 59% support. Walker has refused to expand it. 44% think that the state legislative districts are not fairly drawn, and 63% think they should be drawn by an independent commission. 57% are very concerned with the waiving away of environmental regulations on behalf of Foxconn. 38%(still a plurality) think that public roads have gotten worse under the Walker administration. 49%(plurality) think Walker is only making the deal with Foxconn to help him get reelected. 48% think public schools have gotten worse under Walker. 44% think Walker is too much of a Trump lackey. 44% support the ACA compared to 38% opposition. 56% at least somewhat support sanctuary cities.

These are just really lackluster numbers for Walker, and conservatives in general. Needless to say, my bets are on him losing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: libertpaulian on November 28, 2017, 07:34:41 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

No. He's plagued by FoxConn backroom deals, the attorney scandal with Evers, and the fact that nothing positive has really gotten done in the last 8 years. If Wisconsin follows suit with its history, it should flip.
This. Not to mention he has some pretty bad numbers to be going into 2018 with (https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PPP_Release_Wisconsin102617.pdf), and liberals have some pretty good numbers. Democrats have a bouquet of issues that they can go to town on Walker with. Foxconn, obviously, but also infrastructure, education(Evers would be good at that), gerrymandering, Medicaid expansion, etc.

The PPP poll I linked to has Medicaid expansion at 59% support. Walker has refused to expand it. 44% think that the state legislative districts are not fairly drawn, and 63% think they should be drawn by an independent commission. 57% are very concerned with the waiving away of environmental regulations on behalf of Foxconn. 38%(still a plurality) think that public roads have gotten worse under the Walker administration. 49%(plurality) think Walker is only making the deal with Foxconn to help him get reelected. 48% think public schools have gotten worse under Walker. 44% think Walker is too much of a Trump lackey. 44% support the ACA compared to 38% opposition. 56% at least somewhat support sanctuary cities.

These are just really lackluster numbers for Walker, and conservatives in general. Needless to say, my bets are on him losing.
Do these views on the issues necessarily translate to anti-Walker votes, though?

I'm fairly liberal-ish on immigration, for example, but I wouldn't necessarily vote for a Democrat based on that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 28, 2017, 07:36:02 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

No. He's plagued by FoxConn backroom deals, the attorney scandal with Evers, and the fact that nothing positive has really gotten done in the last 8 years. If Wisconsin follows suit with its history, it should flip.
This. Not to mention he has some pretty bad numbers to be going into 2018 with (https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PPP_Release_Wisconsin102617.pdf), and liberals have some pretty good numbers. Democrats have a bouquet of issues that they can go to town on Walker with. Foxconn, obviously, but also infrastructure, education(Evers would be good at that), gerrymandering, Medicaid expansion, etc.

The PPP poll I linked to has Medicaid expansion at 59% support. Walker has refused to expand it. 44% think that the state legislative districts are not fairly drawn, and 63% think they should be drawn by an independent commission. 57% are very concerned with the waiving away of environmental regulations on behalf of Foxconn. 38%(still a plurality) think that public roads have gotten worse under the Walker administration. 49%(plurality) think Walker is only making the deal with Foxconn to help him get reelected. 48% think public schools have gotten worse under Walker. 44% think Walker is too much of a Trump lackey. 44% support the ACA compared to 38% opposition. 56% at least somewhat support sanctuary cities.

These are just really lackluster numbers for Walker, and conservatives in general. Needless to say, my bets are on him losing.
Do these views on the issues necessarily translate to anti-Walker votes, though?

I'm fairly liberal-ish on immigration, for example, but I wouldn't necessarily vote for a Democrat based on that.


Perhaps not one, but there's been quite a number racking up against him over the last few years.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 29, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

No. He's plagued by FoxConn backroom deals, the attorney scandal with Evers, and the fact that nothing positive has really gotten done in the last 8 years. If Wisconsin follows suit with its history, it should flip.
This. Not to mention he has some pretty bad numbers to be going into 2018 with (https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/PPP_Release_Wisconsin102617.pdf), and liberals have some pretty good numbers. Democrats have a bouquet of issues that they can go to town on Walker with. Foxconn, obviously, but also infrastructure, education(Evers would be good at that), gerrymandering, Medicaid expansion, etc.

The PPP poll I linked to has Medicaid expansion at 59% support. Walker has refused to expand it. 44% think that the state legislative districts are not fairly drawn, and 63% think they should be drawn by an independent commission. 57% are very concerned with the waiving away of environmental regulations on behalf of Foxconn. 38%(still a plurality) think that public roads have gotten worse under the Walker administration. 49%(plurality) think Walker is only making the deal with Foxconn to help him get reelected. 48% think public schools have gotten worse under Walker. 44% think Walker is too much of a Trump lackey. 44% support the ACA compared to 38% opposition. 56% at least somewhat support sanctuary cities.

These are just really lackluster numbers for Walker, and conservatives in general. Needless to say, my bets are on him losing.
Do these views on the issues necessarily translate to anti-Walker votes, though?

I'm fairly liberal-ish on immigration, for example, but I wouldn't necessarily vote for a Democrat based on that.


Not necessarily, no. But it shows that liberals generally have the advantage right now. I'm more minding the numbers on Medicaid expansion, education, infrastructure, various Foxconn shenanigans, and gerrymandering, all issues where Walker has a pretty bad track record on. Democrats(hopefully Evers) can make hay of these issues in the general election, especially in a national environment that will likely be heavily slanted against Walker. Basically, I'm not buying the hot takes saying this contest is Lean or Likely R. It's pure toss-up at this point until we can get more accurate readings on the race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: MasterJedi on November 30, 2017, 10:22:49 AM
Right now he's getting destroyed because he's spending $8 million to try and lure out of state residents in to fill jobs. He chased everyone away and then wants them back, because out of state white workers are preferable then creating public transit for inner city workers to actually get to jobs if they don't have a car.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 30, 2017, 10:28:00 AM

Tony Evers- 49.4%

Scott Walker- 48.8%

what do WIers think

I think Evers can easily break 50% with that map. He'd probably pick up Door County and Racine.

I don't see a Democratic win in the state that doesn't include Grant and Lafayette counties. Winnebago is a county that would probably flip in a Democratic win.

Also Trempleau County is pretty much gone for the Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: KingSweden on November 30, 2017, 11:24:57 AM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on November 30, 2017, 12:19:17 PM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?

If the elections in Virginia were any indication, these Assembly districts need to be on the top of the list:

13, 14, 23, 24,


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on November 30, 2017, 05:42:30 PM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 30, 2017, 11:39:13 PM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.

Which means nothing with the current gerrymander. In fact, Democrats had won the legislative race popular vote or lost it narrowly this whole time, and they're down dozens of seats anyways.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Virginiá on November 30, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.

Which means nothing with the current gerrymander. In fact, Democrats had won the legislative race popular vote or lost it narrowly this whole time, and they're down dozens of seats anyways.

Unless SCOTUS rules against partisan gerrymandering and orders the Assembly map redrawn (the effects of which may not be felt until the 2020 election), the real action is in the state Senate, right? Is it conceivable that Democrats could build even a bare majority for themselves if 2018 and 2020 are both favorable to them?

Also, it's worth mentioning that if Democrats did have a wave-like performance in Wisconsin, it could knock out Walker and maybe a row office or two. That would ensure a more fair round of redistricting in 2021-2022.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on December 01, 2017, 07:43:55 AM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.

Which means nothing with the current gerrymander. In fact, Democrats had won the legislative race popular vote or lost it narrowly this whole time, and they're down dozens of seats anyways.

Unless SCOTUS rules against partisan gerrymandering and orders the Assembly map redrawn (the effects of which may not be felt until the 2020 election), the real action is in the state Senate, right? Is it conceivable that Democrats could build even a bare majority for themselves if 2018 and 2020 are both favorable to them?

Also, it's worth mentioning that if Democrats did have a wave-like performance in Wisconsin, it could knock out Walker and maybe a row office or two. That would ensure a more fair round of redistricting in 2021-2022.
My prediction is that Walker goes down. I think whichever party wins the Senate race is also winning the Governor's mansion, and since I really can't see Baldwin losing, I can't really see Walker losing either, unless both contests end up razor-thin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: IceSpear on December 01, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.

Which means nothing with the current gerrymander. In fact, Democrats had won the legislative race popular vote or lost it narrowly this whole time, and they're down dozens of seats anyways.

Unless SCOTUS rules against partisan gerrymandering and orders the Assembly map redrawn (the effects of which may not be felt until the 2020 election), the real action is in the state Senate, right? Is it conceivable that Democrats could build even a bare majority for themselves if 2018 and 2020 are both favorable to them?

Also, it's worth mentioning that if Democrats did have a wave-like performance in Wisconsin, it could knock out Walker and maybe a row office or two. That would ensure a more fair round of redistricting in 2021-2022.
My prediction is that Walker goes down. I think whichever party wins the Senate race is also winning the Governor's mansion, and since I really can't see Baldwin losing, I can't really see Walker losing either, unless both contests end up razor-thin.

People also said that about the recall though. Yet both Walker and Obama won easily, even with the granny killer on the ticket.

That said, I never really bought that line of reasoning. There was obviously going to be a contingent of voters that may not have liked Walker and/or were not solid supporters, but thought the recall went too far. No doubt that Baldwin/Walker voters would be totally schizophrenic, but it wouldn't be the first nor the last time voters showed that type of schizophrenia. Lol

Personally, I think he's in for the toughest fight of his political career, but is slightly favored. If there does end up being a wave though, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended up getting pulled under.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on December 01, 2017, 02:02:28 PM
What are the rough outlines of state legislature offensive opportunities for Democrats?
Dems currently lead the generic legislative ballot 44-41, if that's any indication.

Which means nothing with the current gerrymander. In fact, Democrats had won the legislative race popular vote or lost it narrowly this whole time, and they're down dozens of seats anyways.

Unless SCOTUS rules against partisan gerrymandering and orders the Assembly map redrawn (the effects of which may not be felt until the 2020 election), the real action is in the state Senate, right? Is it conceivable that Democrats could build even a bare majority for themselves if 2018 and 2020 are both favorable to them?

Also, it's worth mentioning that if Democrats did have a wave-like performance in Wisconsin, it could knock out Walker and maybe a row office or two. That would ensure a more fair round of redistricting in 2021-2022.
My prediction is that Walker goes down. I think whichever party wins the Senate race is also winning the Governor's mansion, and since I really can't see Baldwin losing, I can't really see Walker losing either, unless both contests end up razor-thin.

People also said that about the recall though. Yet both Walker and Obama won easily, even with the granny killer on the ticket.

That said, I never really bought that line of reasoning. There was obviously going to be a contingent of voters that may not have liked Walker and/or were not solid supporters, but thought the recall went too far. No doubt that Baldwin/Walker voters would be totally schizophrenic, but it wouldn't be the first nor the last time voters showed that type of schizophrenia. Lol

Personally, I think he's in for the toughest fight of his political career, but is slightly favored. If there does end up being a wave though, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he ended up getting pulled under.
One problem with that: The recall was not on the same day as the general election in 2012. The recall took place in June.

Regardless, I think the race is pure toss-up at this point. Walker as well as the various Democrats running have their own advantages and disadvantages, and there are just too many variables for me to make a good judgement at this point.

If the political landscape stays as it is, and Evers emerges as the nominee, or it looks like Tammy Baldwin is headed towards routing her opponent, I would probably say then that Walker is the underdog. For now, it's even.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Nhoj on December 02, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
Evers is still the favorite, but I think Mitchell has a real chance in a very large field, if only because he will clean up in Milwaukee with Moore's machine behind him. He's also got the firefighters union. I'd put him at #2 right now, just past Vinehout.

Mitchell could probably get the possibly get the pull of all the unions in Wisconsin.
You think the teachers unions would back him over Evers? I find that highly unlikely.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on December 02, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
Evers is still the favorite, but I think Mitchell has a real chance in a very large field, if only because he will clean up in Milwaukee with Moore's machine behind him. He's also got the firefighters union. I'd put him at #2 right now, just past Vinehout.

Mitchell could probably get the possibly get the pull of all the unions in Wisconsin.
You think the teachers unions would back him over Evers? I find that highly unlikely.
I agree. Also, nice sig Nhoj


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: MasterJedi on December 04, 2017, 09:05:02 AM
https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2017/12/4/wisconsin-childhood-trauma-data-explodes-myth-of-not-in-my-small-town.html (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2017/12/4/wisconsin-childhood-trauma-data-explodes-myth-of-not-in-my-small-town.html)

Good article on rural poverty/heroin epidemic. Basically exploding away the myth that it doesn't happen in the perfect, small, god fearing, conservative small towns.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Gass3268 on December 04, 2017, 09:23:10 AM
Evers is still the favorite, but I think Mitchell has a real chance in a very large field, if only because he will clean up in Milwaukee with Moore's machine behind him. He's also got the firefighters union. I'd put him at #2 right now, just past Vinehout.

Mitchell could probably get the possibly get the pull of all the unions in Wisconsin.
You think the teachers unions would back him over Evers? I find that highly unlikely.
I agree. Also, nice sig Nhoj

Yeah, it would make sense for the teachers to back Evers. I was thinking more the trades unions and probably SEIU.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: RussFeingoldWasRobbed on December 06, 2017, 02:59:18 PM
Good candidates.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: redjohn on December 06, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

It's a tossup, but it depends on the candidate. Evers will lose to Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on December 07, 2017, 12:01:49 AM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?

It's a tossup, but it depends on the candidate. Evers will lose to Walker.
You don't think Walker's bubblers with that Foxconn fiasco and just general fatigue is enough to do him in


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: mcmikk on December 07, 2017, 07:55:41 AM
So Wisconsin posters: If you had to put money on it right now, does Walker win re-election?
Tossup, but I'm gonna predict that Evers pulls it out. He's the best that Wisconsin Dems have. Republicans/conservatives have lackluster numbers here and Democrats/liberals have good numbers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Arkansas Yankee on December 11, 2017, 03:07:30 AM
Here is a report of the Wisconsin Department of Justice into the leak ofthe information in the Joh Doe investigation of Walker.  It should help all Wisconsin Republicans. Though a crime was committed, it recommends bar action and contempt proceedingascist  against the Democrat scumbags that ran this fascist investigation.  Don’t you Dememocrats activities by Republican ever talk about fascist investigations. We have never gone this far.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/07/bombshell-report-political-persecution-scott-walker-swept-high-level-gop-officials/

https://cdn.wrn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Report-of-the-Attorney-General-Signed-UNSEALED.pdf

Nothing but secret Star Chamber.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: UncleSam on December 11, 2017, 04:08:56 AM
Here is a report of the Wisconsin Department of Justice into the leak ofthe information in the Joh Doe investigation of Walker.  It should help all Wisconsin Republicans. Thoughts a crime was committed, it recommends bar action and contempt proceedingascist  against the Democrat scumbags that ran this fascist investigation.  Don’t you Dememocrats activities by Republican ever talk about fascist investigations. We have never gone this far.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/07/bombshell-report-political-persecution-scott-walker-swept-high-level-gop-officials/

https://cdn.wrn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Report-of-the-Attorney-General-Signed-UNSEALED.pdf

Nothing but secret Star Chamber.

Were you distracted by the child porn you were watching while typing this or something? Nothing in that paragraph makes even a modicum of sense.
Anyone who reads the links can understand perfectly lol.

But ya call people you dislike pedophiles over and over until they admit they were wrong, that'll work out.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: Arkansas Yankee on December 11, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
Here is a report of the Wisconsin Department of Justice into the leak ofthe information in the Joh Doe investigation of Walker.  It should help all Wisconsin Republicans. Thoughts a crime was committed, it recommends bar action and contempt proceedingascist  against the Democrat scumbags that ran this fascist investigation.  Don’t you Dememocrats activities by Republican ever talk about fascist investigations. We have never gone this far.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/07/bombshell-report-political-persecution-scott-walker-swept-high-level-gop-officials/

https://cdn.wrn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Report-of-the-Attorney-General-Signed-UNSEALED.pdf

Nothing but secret Star Chamber.

Were you distracted by the child porn you were watching while typing this or something? Nothing in that paragraph makes even a modicum of sense.
Anyone who reads the links can understand perfectly lol.

But ya call people you dislike pedophiles over and over until they admit they were wrong, that'll work out.

Let me make it clear.  I always disliked Moore.  I thought I could save the seat and still get rid of Moore.
When I determined that was probably not possible, I changed.

Is it not interesting that the State that was the home of La Follette (the original Bernie) and the home of the Progressive Party is the state that set up a star chamber in the form of the John Doe investigation.  Progressives claim to be the true lovers of liberty.  Really?

Moore is still not a Pedophile.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: uti2 on December 11, 2017, 03:49:48 PM
The WI GOP is one of the few competent GOP state parties left, but this will probably still be Walker's toughest race so far. Tossup at this point, and it would help if the GOP actually got a decent candidate to run for Senate. Gun to my head... Walker wins by 2-3 points, but 2018 will show what a strong candidate Ron Johnson actually is.

Johnson won less votes than Baldwin '12 and Feingold '04.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Mahlon Mitchell In
Post by: uti2 on December 11, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
^ But I suppose you can call Johnson a loyal GOP soldier to the bitter end, he's useful in that capacity - similar to Walker. He's not the kind of candidate to get cold feet over an issue.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license
Post by: Gass3268 on December 11, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license (http://host.madison.com/entertainment/dining/bars_and_clubs/mayor-paul-soglin-vetoes-taco-bell-liquor-license/article_7f7c0b91-4d29-50d1-82ee-ddc0a85a7cc3.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Arkansas Yankee on December 11, 2017, 04:56:35 PM
Third terms are often difficult for voters to swallow.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license
Post by: BuckeyeNut on December 12, 2017, 12:10:23 AM
Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license (http://host.madison.com/entertainment/dining/bars_and_clubs/mayor-paul-soglin-vetoes-taco-bell-liquor-license/article_7f7c0b91-4d29-50d1-82ee-ddc0a85a7cc3.html)

HP


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on December 12, 2017, 12:17:15 AM
Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license (http://host.madison.com/entertainment/dining/bars_and_clubs/mayor-paul-soglin-vetoes-taco-bell-liquor-license/article_7f7c0b91-4d29-50d1-82ee-ddc0a85a7cc3.html)

Freedom Veto (the fewer people going to Taco Bell, the better!)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Virginiá on December 12, 2017, 02:08:50 AM
Third terms are often difficult for voters to swallow.

The candidate is also much more likely to get caught in an unfavorable midterm environment, given that after 8 years, the White House usually changes hands (at least in the modern era). Walker has always had the benefit of a riled up Republican base, as he ran under Obama, whose midterms were just plain brutal to Democrats. The only debatable election was Walker's recall, which iirc was in June 2012, where Obama was still about as popular as he was in Nov 2010.

Now Walker has to run in a midterm under a deeply unpopular Republican president who has almost single-handedly riled up the Democratic Party in ways not seen since 2006, or perhaps even generations, depending on how you view the surge of activism and political engagement on the left. So I think it is fair to say that Walker is in for the toughest election of his career.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: ElectionsGuy on December 12, 2017, 02:25:40 AM
If I had to say who wins I will say Walker in a tough fight but there's very valid reasons to believe this election won't be like his last three and odds are he will have to overcome a Democratic favored environment.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on December 13, 2017, 02:19:58 PM

but enough about Taco Bell


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: junior chįmp on December 13, 2017, 02:27:31 PM
If I had to say who wins I will say Walker in a tough fight but there's very valid reasons to believe this election won't be like his last three and odds are he will have to overcome a Democratic favored environment.

Been saying it for months on here. Walker is a goner. Wisconsin will be blue again in 2018


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license
Post by: Wiz in Wis on December 14, 2017, 06:33:27 PM
Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license (http://host.madison.com/entertainment/dining/bars_and_clubs/mayor-paul-soglin-vetoes-taco-bell-liquor-license/article_7f7c0b91-4d29-50d1-82ee-ddc0a85a7cc3.html)

Freedom Veto (the fewer people going to Taco Bell, the better!)

Ironically, Soglin's micro-managing of Madison's restaurant scene is one of the main reasons I would never support him in a primary. He's a very "you kids! get off my lawn" mayor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Wiz in Wis on December 14, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Also, don't know if anyone has noticed here, but former state Assemblywoman Kelda Helen Roys has entered the race for governor.

At the risk of sounding sexist, she's easily the most easy on the eyes candidate we have for Governor.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2017/12/07/bice-ex-rep-kelda-roys-joins-packed-field-dems-hoping-challenge-gov-scott-walker/930913001/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 14, 2017, 07:09:50 PM
Also, don't know if anyone has noticed here, but former state Assemblywoman Kelda Helen Roys has entered the race for governor.

At the risk of sounding sexist, she's easily the most easy on the eyes candidate we have for Governor.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2017/12/07/bice-ex-rep-kelda-roys-joins-packed-field-dems-hoping-challenge-gov-scott-walker/930913001/
Meh


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license
Post by: Badger on December 14, 2017, 11:46:34 PM
Soglin vetoes Taco Bell liquor license (http://host.madison.com/entertainment/dining/bars_and_clubs/mayor-paul-soglin-vetoes-taco-bell-liquor-license/article_7f7c0b91-4d29-50d1-82ee-ddc0a85a7cc3.html)

HP


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Nhoj on December 15, 2017, 03:45:55 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.

Also while soglin sounds like a HP, who eats at taco bell in madison? surely there is some good local mexican places.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on December 16, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.

Also while soglin sounds like a HP, who eats at taco bell in madison? surely there is some good local mexican places.
Stoned UW students who really really want some Taco Bell?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: mcmikk on December 16, 2017, 03:11:43 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.
What's so interesting about SD 10, exactly?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: TJ in Oregon on December 16, 2017, 08:24:49 PM
This kind of stuff is the reason why I always vote for Soglin. He's sorta crazy and hackish in many ways but he'll ensure the hedonists don't totally run amok. I think a helpful comparison is Soglin as the Madison version of Jerry Brown.

That being said, his vision for State Street as primarily a shopping district rather than an entertainment district is silly. There's no way he can fill the place with shops selling knick knacks and incense.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Badger on December 16, 2017, 10:40:32 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.

Also while soglin sounds like a HP, who eats at taco bell in madison? surely there is some good local mexican places.
Stoned UW students who really really want some Taco Bell?

Especially at that time of night and who don't want a sit-down meal


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Gass3268 on December 19, 2017, 12:14:25 PM
Pretty amazing ad from Evers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=H9mxiAJJUuM)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Nhoj on December 19, 2017, 01:46:52 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.
What's so interesting about SD 10, exactly?
There is a special election? that's about it. Seeing how democrats have been improving in specials nationwide it may be interesting to watch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: henster on December 19, 2017, 05:55:22 PM
Mitchell seems way more energetic and dynamic than Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: junior chįmp on December 26, 2017, 10:42:12 PM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: mcmikk on December 26, 2017, 11:40:03 PM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/
Let's hope. This deal is so unbelievably trash and I hope it brings Walker down so we can get a liberal in there that isn't gonna give away 4 billion dollars to a foreign corporation. We won't even break even on this investment for several decades at best.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Former Kentuckian on December 26, 2017, 11:43:34 PM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on December 26, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot
Hopefully he loses reelection.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Virginiá on December 27, 2017, 12:12:36 AM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot

From the party of fiscal responsibility, my dudes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: mcmikk on December 27, 2017, 01:59:01 AM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot

From the party of fiscal responsibility, my dudes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Dr. Arch on December 27, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot

From the party of fiscal responsibility, my dudes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: MasterJedi on December 27, 2017, 10:35:58 AM
Walker has been saying there's no money for the roads and has been begging the feds for billions to help, but they "found" $100 million more for road expansion by Foxconn. So likely more bonds and deferring interest, yay. -_-


Also, Soglin needs to GTFO.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Wiz in Wis on December 27, 2017, 01:11:37 PM
Since i live in the district next to SD 10, I have been hearing radio ads for the republican primary. pretty typical stuff other than Zimmerman has been running attack ads against Jarchow for not being 100% loyal to walker. i do see that Jarchow has locked up most of the endorsements from current and former elected officials including the third HD Rep in SD 10.
What's so interesting about SD 10, exactly?
There is a special election? that's about it. Seeing how democrats have been improving in specials nationwide it may be interesting to watch.

This is actually in the NW corner of the state, near Minneapolis-St Paul. I do think that it's possible, though not likely, that this seat could flip. It's closest analogue in my mind is GA-06.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: henster on December 28, 2017, 01:50:32 AM
WI Dems should really run on investing in rural infastructure and schools. Walker has won by using rural resentment pitting urban vs. rural while not actually doing anything for rural communities.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: mcmikk on December 28, 2017, 07:47:08 PM
WI Dems should really run on investing in rural infastructure and schools. Walker has won by using rural resentment pitting urban vs. rural while not actually doing anything for rural communities.
This, with particular focus on the large strip of Obama-Trump counties in Western Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: mcmikk on December 28, 2017, 09:26:06 PM
WI Dems should really run on investing in rural infastructure and schools. Walker has won by using rural resentment pitting urban vs. rural while not actually doing anything for rural communities.
This, with particular focus on the large strip of Obama-Trump counties in Western Wisconsin.

Evers/Vinehout ticket needs to be in the works, like, yesterday.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Badger on December 28, 2017, 10:15:02 PM
Well well well....turns out Scott Walker's Foxconn boondoggle will now cost $4.5 billion (up from $3 billion). Bye bye Walker

Quote
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

Trump and Scott Walker have touted the Foxconn deal as a big win for Wisconsin. But the initial $3,000,000,000 subsidy to the Taiwanese company, which was already the largest in the state's history, has recently risen to $4,500,000,000.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2017/12/21/murphys-law-foxconn-subsidy-now-exceeds-4-billion/

Walker is such an idiot

From the party of fiscal responsibility, my dudes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Gass3268 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:17 PM
Soglin is probably going to enter the race next week, in the meantime he and Walker have gotten into a twitter battle:

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Paul Soglin‏
@Paulsoglin
Following Following @Paulsoglin
More
@scottwalker is more concerned about Fidel Castro than the people of Ashland and Fond du Lac who watch their children and grandchildren flee the state. We need a leader who can create jobs without mortgaging the ranch.  Fix the roads @governorpothole


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: MT Treasurer on January 05, 2018, 02:43:46 PM
I know this isn't a thread for discussing the Senate race, but thoughts on this? (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tammy-baldwin-wisconsin_us_5a4bd21ce4b0b0e5a7a91159)

Mostly hype/hot air IMO, but kinda odd how much conservative groups are spending here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Virginiá on January 05, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
I know this isn't a thread for discussing the Senate race, but thoughts on this? (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tammy-baldwin-wisconsin_us_5a4bd21ce4b0b0e5a7a91159)

Mostly hype/hot air IMO, but kinda odd how much conservative groups are spending here.

Not much evidence that a few million in ads 10-11 months out from the election will have even a small impact on the result. They are just lighting money on fire. No one is going to remember any of this a month from now, let alone in November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: IceSpear on January 06, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
I know this isn't a thread for discussing the Senate race, but thoughts on this? (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tammy-baldwin-wisconsin_us_5a4bd21ce4b0b0e5a7a91159)

Mostly hype/hot air IMO, but kinda odd how much conservative groups are spending here.

Not much evidence that a few million in ads 10-11 months out from the election will have even a small impact on the result. They are just lighting money on fire. No one is going to remember any of this a month from now, let alone in November.

Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Former Kentuckian on January 06, 2018, 01:58:39 PM
I know this isn't a thread for discussing the Senate race, but thoughts on this? (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tammy-baldwin-wisconsin_us_5a4bd21ce4b0b0e5a7a91159)

Mostly hype/hot air IMO, but kinda odd how much conservative groups are spending here.

Not much evidence that a few million in ads 10-11 months out from the election will have even a small impact on the result. They are just lighting money on fire. No one is going to remember any of this a month from now, let alone in November.

Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.

2014 was a Democratic midterm, though. Baldwin is facing a much better environment than all of those candidates.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Virginiá on January 06, 2018, 04:36:03 PM
Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.

Is there actual evidence that was the (or a major) reason for their defeat, or was it just the case that there were early ads, and it so happened that the race tightened later on, and they lost, so people just assumed it was because of the ads? Looking at the NC polls from 2014, Hagan's weakening in October through election day seems more consistent with an intensifying election where voters started making their minds up. Otherwise not much else seemed to change.

I don't think I've seen a single study that showed political ads really have much impact at all, at least on high-profile races, and when they do, it is short-term only, and wears off within a couple weeks. I used to put a lot more stock into them, but over the past 2 years, it has been really hard to find a very clear-cut instance where they played a notable part.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Pollster on January 06, 2018, 06:08:43 PM
Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.

Is there actual evidence that was the (or a major) reason for their defeat, or was it just the case that there were early ads, and it so happened that the race tightened later on, and they lost, so people just assumed it was because of the ads? Looking at the NC polls from 2014, Hagan's weakening in October through election day seems more consistent with an intensifying election where voters started making their minds up. Otherwise not much else seemed to change.

I don't think I've seen a single study that showed political ads really have much impact at all, at least on high-profile races, and when they do, it is short-term only, and wears off within a couple weeks. I used to put a lot more stock into them, but over the past 2 years, it has been really hard to find a very clear-cut instance where they played a notable part.

Ads are often much more effective in primary races, where party polarization plays less of a factor and voters are more easily won over on persuasion, with exceptions.

Good, positive ads can put a candidate on the map. In Kander's race last year we saw a major bump after the gun ad went up. This effect is usually seen with positive ads for candidates with low name recognition. If a campaign for an established candidate releases a strong ad (positive or negative), the goal is usually to generate favorable headlines and media coverage, such as HRC's 2008 phone call ad or her 2016 "children are listening" ad.

Attack ads - if they're good - have generally the same intended effect, but to weaken candidates with low name recognition instead of boost them. Occasionally a good attack ad can also drag down what we call a "known unknown" - a candidate with high name recognition but who has baggage or other vulnerabilities of some kind that the electorate at-large is unaware of or not thinking/hearing about. Mitt Romney deployed this tactic effectively against Newt Gingrich in Iowa 2012.

Bad ads can backfire on a candidate, but as you noted this effect often wears off in due time. Timing is important though, as Liddy Dole learned in 2008.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: IceSpear on January 07, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.

Is there actual evidence that was the (or a major) reason for their defeat, or was it just the case that there were early ads, and it so happened that the race tightened later on, and they lost, so people just assumed it was because of the ads? Looking at the NC polls from 2014, Hagan's weakening in October through election day seems more consistent with an intensifying election where voters started making their minds up. Otherwise not much else seemed to change.

I don't think I've seen a single study that showed political ads really have much impact at all, at least on high-profile races, and when they do, it is short-term only, and wears off within a couple weeks. I used to put a lot more stock into them, but over the past 2 years, it has been really hard to find a very clear-cut instance where they played a notable part.

Well, before the ads they had high approval ratings, and after the ads they had horrible approval ratings. Of course, that could've been due to external events as well, like the political environment worsening for the Democrats, the Obamacare website malfunctioning, etc. I was actually referring to the early attack ads that softened up their approvals, not the mid-late 2014 ads once the campaign season heated up. The damage had already been done by then.

It makes sense to test the waters and see if Baldwin can be softened up considering she lacks a strong personal brand, Walker is seen as the favorite to be re-elected, and it's not like the GOP is lacking in Koch money.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Mike Thick on January 07, 2018, 06:54:31 PM
Vukmir probably has a ton of fundraising connections from her time at ALEC. The fact that Nicholson is clearly a very ambitious guy can't hurt either -- people want to get a foot in the door with him just like they did with Greitens and Cotton.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Gass3268 on January 09, 2018, 09:29:55 AM
An old poll taken for the rightwing Wisconsin Manufactures & Commerce by the rightwing leaning Tarrance Group:

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Theo Keith
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@TheoKeith

.@WisconsinMC poll shows @ScottWalker approval rating at 48-48. @tammybaldwin is at 46-42. And the poll shows @realDonaldTrump still upside down in Wisconsin, 38-57.  Poll conducted by The Tarrance Group from Dec. 5-7.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 09, 2018, 11:56:59 AM
An old poll taken for the rightwing Wisconsin Manufactures & Commerce by the rightwing leaning Tarrance Group:

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Theo Keith
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.@WisconsinMC poll shows @ScottWalker approval rating at 48-48. @tammybaldwin is at 46-42. And the poll shows @realDonaldTrump still upside down in Wisconsin, 38-57.  Poll conducted by The Tarrance Group from Dec. 5-7.


He's deep underwater in Wisconsin, more than it seems. As you can see by Baldwin's and Walker's numbers, Wisconsin is heavily polarized and normal disapprovals and approvals are in single digits in one way or another. To be near 60% disapproval in Wisconsin (regardless of party) means that you're dead meat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin vetoes Taco Bell's liquor license
Post by: IceSpear on January 09, 2018, 12:34:52 PM
Early ads did pretty well at destroying the popularity of Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, etc. in 2014.

Is there actual evidence that was the (or a major) reason for their defeat, or was it just the case that there were early ads, and it so happened that the race tightened later on, and they lost, so people just assumed it was because of the ads? Looking at the NC polls from 2014, Hagan's weakening in October through election day seems more consistent with an intensifying election where voters started making their minds up. Otherwise not much else seemed to change.

I don't think I've seen a single study that showed political ads really have much impact at all, at least on high-profile races, and when they do, it is short-term only, and wears off within a couple weeks. I used to put a lot more stock into them, but over the past 2 years, it has been really hard to find a very clear-cut instance where they played a notable part.

Well, before the ads they had high approval ratings, and after the ads they had horrible approval ratings. Of course, that could've been due to external events as well, like the political environment worsening for the Democrats, the Obamacare website malfunctioning, etc. I was actually referring to the early attack ads that softened up their approvals, not the mid-late 2014 ads once the campaign season heated up. The damage had already been done by then.

It makes sense to test the waters and see if Baldwin can be softened up considering she lacks a strong personal brand, Walker is seen as the favorite to be re-elected, and it's not like the GOP is lacking in Koch money.

Is there a reason Walker is favored given his low approvals and the national environment? Is it his war chest and a split D field? Those alone don’t sound compelling enough IMO

Probably that plus him winning 3 times and Wisconsin swinging to the right. Plus muh incumbency of course.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 10, 2018, 09:29:38 AM
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 10, 2018, 09:42:15 AM
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WISCTV News 3‏
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor

Ugggghhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: MasterJedi on January 10, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
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WISCTV News 3‏
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor

Ugggghhhhhhhhhhh

It almost seems like Soglin wants Walker to win...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 10, 2018, 09:54:12 AM
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WISCTV News 3‏
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor

Ugggghhhhhhhhhhh

I really don't think he's going to have much support outside of Madison. I think Mitchell has a better chance as the progressive/liberal/ insurgent, given his labor connections and the probable benefit of having Gwen Moore's support in Milwaukee. I also agree with TJ's analogy with Jerry Brown.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 10, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
Rep Mandela Barnes (D-Mke) running for Lt. Gov.

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/mandela-barnes-announces-run-for-wisconsin-lieutenant-governor/ (https://urbanmilwaukee.com/pressrelease/mandela-barnes-announces-run-for-wisconsin-lieutenant-governor/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 10, 2018, 04:40:35 PM
I've been a fan of Barnes for a while and am happy to see him enter the race. Who does he support in the Governor's race, FWIW?

I doubt he'd declare in support of anyone. That would make him winning and someone else winning the gov primary... awkward.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Dr. MB on January 10, 2018, 06:34:20 PM
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WISCTV News 3‏
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor
Endorsed with Mitchell as second pick.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: MasterJedi on January 11, 2018, 11:11:40 AM
Barnes is a Chris Larson puppet, won't support him.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 11, 2018, 03:35:19 PM
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WISCTV News 3‏
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BREAKING: Madison Mayor Paul Soglin officially announces candidacy for governor
Endorsed with Mitchell as second pick.

Why? Do you want Walker re-elected?


Title: Wisconsin Megathread - Evers Emerges as Frontrunner
Post by: mcmikk on January 11, 2018, 07:20:32 PM
A new poll just released by PPP (https://twitter.com/jessieopie/status/951600022415659010) has Evers leading the field at 29%, with the second best(Vinehout) at 11%. 28% are undecided.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Kamala on January 11, 2018, 07:23:15 PM
An Evers/Vinehout ticket would be amazing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Doimper on January 11, 2018, 07:29:47 PM
Evers is the best we've got, right? Coolio.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Pollster on January 11, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
Evers/Vinehout teaming up would probably be the strongest option for Dems, right?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: mcmikk on January 11, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
Evers/Vinehout teaming up would probably be the strongest option for Dems, right?

Yeah, I'd say so. Problem is, Wisconsin doesn't have running mates. The primaries for Governor and Lieutenant Governor are separate, and the winners run on the same general election ticket.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: BuckeyeNut on January 11, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
Evers/Vinehout teaming up would probably be the strongest option for Dems, right?

Yeah, I'd say so. Problem is, Wisconsin doesn't have running mates. The primaries for Governor and Lieutenant Governor are separate, and the winners run on the same general election ticket.

Any chance she drops down?

And who's running for Lt. Governor, anyway?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Pollster on January 11, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
What are the odds Evers wins but Kleefisch is re-elected? Is she likely to outperform or underperform Walker?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Kamala on January 11, 2018, 07:57:31 PM
What are the odds Evers wins but Kleefisch is re-elected? Is she likely to outperform or underperform Walker?

The primaries are separate but the Governor and LtG run on the same ticket


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: BuckeyeNut on January 11, 2018, 08:05:29 PM
What are the odds Evers wins but Kleefisch is re-elected? Is she likely to outperform or underperform Walker?

The primaries are separate but the Governor and LtG run on the same ticket

Except for the recall, which was separate for both Gov and LtG?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Kamala on January 11, 2018, 08:08:09 PM
What are the odds Evers wins but Kleefisch is re-elected? Is she likely to outperform or underperform Walker?

The primaries are separate but the Governor and LtG run on the same ticket

Except for the recall, which was separate for both Gov and LtG?

I assume a recall can only target one elected official, so they were both recalled separately.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: mcmikk on January 11, 2018, 09:36:34 PM
Evers/Vinehout teaming up would probably be the strongest option for Dems, right?

Yeah, I'd say so. Problem is, Wisconsin doesn't have running mates. The primaries for Governor and Lieutenant Governor are separate, and the winners run on the same general election ticket.

Any chance she drops down?

And who's running for Lt. Governor, anyway?

3 people, the most notable imo being Mandela Barnes, a former State Rep. I don't really know much about any of them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 11, 2018, 11:11:15 PM
Go Evers!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: mcmikk on January 12, 2018, 07:35:18 AM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: MasterJedi on January 12, 2018, 09:44:32 AM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: mcmikk on January 16, 2018, 02:37:06 PM
Evers' fundraising numbers are in. (https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/953315136412049411) He currently boasts "2400+" donors, an average donation of $85.23, donors from 71 of Wisconsin's 72 counties, with 94% of his donations coming from Wisconsin. He's currently raised $312,000 without loaning his campaign any money. (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/953320840661266433)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Doimper on January 16, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
Evers' fundraising numbers are in. (https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/953315136412049411) He currently boasts "2400+" donors, an average donation of $85.23, donors from 71 of Wisconsin's 72 counties, with 94% of his donations coming from Wisconsin. He's currently raised $312,000 without loaning his campaign any money. (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/953320840661266433)

Wonder what the odd county out is?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 16, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Evers' fundraising numbers are in. (https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/953315136412049411) He currently boasts "2400+" donors, an average donation of $85.23, donors from 71 of Wisconsin's 72 counties, with 94% of his donations coming from Wisconsin. He's currently raised $312,000 without loaning his campaign any money. (https://twitter.com/sbauerAP/status/953320840661266433)

Wonder what the odd county out is?

Either Florence or Menominee


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 16, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
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Scott Bauer
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.@ScottWalker fundraising numbers for the past six months at $3.7 million puts him ahead of Democratic field, which brought in about $2.3 million, but behind what Walker did four years ago heading into last re-elect, when he raised $5.1 million over that period

Walker is behind where he was in fundraising compared to 4 years ago.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 16, 2018, 10:25:41 PM
If the Governor's election goes anything like SD-10 went today, Walker is done.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: mcmikk on January 16, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
If the Governor's election goes anything like SD-10 went today, Walker is done.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on January 16, 2018, 11:03:30 PM
how did Trump do in the district that flipped tonight?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 16, 2018, 11:04:15 PM
how did Trump do in the district that flipped tonight?

55-38


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 17, 2018, 09:34:09 AM
If SD-10/AD-58 are any indicator of how things will be in November here are my ratings (I'm probably a bit too cautious here):

SD-01 - Lean R (Toss-Up in the Special Election)
SD-03 - Safe D
SD-05 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-07 - Safe D
SD-09 - Likely R
SD-11 - Lean R
SD-13 - Lean R
SD-15 - Safe D
SD-17 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-19 - Toss Up (Calling A Dem Pick Up Right Now)
SD-21 - Likely R
SD-23 - Lean R
SD-25 - Likely D
SD-27 - Safe D
SD-29 - Likely R
SD-31 - Likely D
SD-33 - Likely R


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: windjammer on January 17, 2018, 09:38:07 AM
If SD-10/AD-58 are any indicator of how things will be in November here are my ratings (I'm probably a bit too cautious here):

SD-01 - Lean R (Toss-Up in the Special Election)
SD-03 - Safe D
SD-05 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-07 - Safe D
SD-09 - Likely R
SD-11 - Lean R
SD-13 - Lean R
SD-15 - Safe D
SD-17 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-19 - Toss Up (Calling A Dem Pick Up Right Now)
SD-21 - Likely R
SD-23 - Lean R
SD-25 - Likely D
SD-27 - Safe D
SD-29 - Likely R
SD-31 - Likely D
SD-33 - Likely R
When is scheduled the SD-01's special election?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 17, 2018, 09:48:19 AM
If SD-10/AD-58 are any indicator of how things will be in November here are my ratings (I'm probably a bit too cautious here):

SD-01 - Lean R (Toss-Up in the Special Election)
SD-03 - Safe D
SD-05 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-07 - Safe D
SD-09 - Likely R
SD-11 - Lean R
SD-13 - Lean R
SD-15 - Safe D
SD-17 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-19 - Toss Up (Calling A Dem Pick Up Right Now)
SD-21 - Likely R
SD-23 - Lean R
SD-25 - Likely D
SD-27 - Safe D
SD-29 - Likely R
SD-31 - Likely D
SD-33 - Likely R
When is scheduled the SD-01's special election?

Not sure if a date has been scheduled yet. It is possible that they just wait until November.

Edit: Walker has been resistant to calling special elections for SD-01 and AD-42. AD-42 would probably be a flip with the current environment.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Gass3268 on January 17, 2018, 10:00:27 AM
Foxconn Deal is going to cost Wisconsin taxpayers $4.5 billion! (http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/369235-wisconsin-foxconn-deal-to-cost-public-45-billion)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 17, 2018, 10:26:43 AM
If SD-10/AD-58 are any indicator of how things will be in November here are my ratings (I'm probably a bit too cautious here):

SD-01 - Lean R (Toss-Up in the Special Election)
SD-03 - Safe D
SD-05 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-07 - Safe D
SD-09 - Likely R
SD-11 - Lean R
SD-13 - Lean R
SD-15 - Safe D
SD-17 - Lean D (Dem Pick Up)
SD-19 - Toss Up (Calling A Dem Pick Up Right Now)
SD-21 - Likely R
SD-23 - Lean R
SD-25 - Likely D
SD-27 - Safe D
SD-29 - Likely R
SD-31 - Likely D
SD-33 - Likely R

I'd shift SD-01, SD-09, SD-23, and SD-29 all one notch Dem using your rankings.

It should be noted that SD-10 had 2 UW campuses (River Falls & Stout) in it. While we don't know what the turnout was, the Dem won landslides in Dunn and Pierce counties. That should make SD-17 (Platteville) a pickup and SD-31 (Eau Claire) an easy hold.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Wiz in Wis on January 19, 2018, 03:39:12 PM
Not that he a shot in hell at winning, but:

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Today, Mahlon Mitchell’s campaign for governor announced that it has raised nearly $310,000 in just 7 weeks. Additionally, his campaign reported having $242,000 in cash on hand.

The news comes in the wake of multiple high-profile endorsements of Mitchell’s candidacy- from Congresswoman Gwen Moore, Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney, Amalgamated Transit Union Local 998, International Association of Firefighters, Professional Firefighters of Wisconsin, and Operating Engineers Local 139, who had previously supported Scott Walker’s candidacy.

“I’m honored by the support we have been able to generate in such a short time,” Mitchell said. “I plan to have the resources to take on and defeat Scott Walker in November. As I meet with voters all across this great state, one thing is clear: they are ready for change. Scott Walker has had eight long years to lead- and he has failed to do so. I’m running for governor because it’s time for new leadership- leadership that turns the page on Walker’s divisiveness and brings Wisconsinites together to build a better future for our state.”

Yeah, why would the young African American have a shot at winning in this large field of other credible challengers

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Soglin In
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 19, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
Not that he a shot in hell at winning, but:

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Today, Mahlon Mitchell’s campaign for governor announced that it has raised nearly $310,000 in just 7 weeks. Additionally, his campaign reported having $242,000 in cash on hand.

The news comes in the wake of multiple high-profile endorsements of Mitchell’s candidacy- from Congresswoman Gwen Moore, Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney, Amalgamated Transit Union Local 998, International Association of Firefighters, Professional Firefighters of Wisconsin, and Operating Engineers Local 139, who had previously supported Scott Walker’s candidacy.

“I’m honored by the support we have been able to generate in such a short time,” Mitchell said. “I plan to have the resources to take on and defeat Scott Walker in November. As I meet with voters all across this great state, one thing is clear: they are ready for change. Scott Walker has had eight long years to lead- and he has failed to do so. I’m running for governor because it’s time for new leadership- leadership that turns the page on Walker’s divisiveness and brings Wisconsinites together to build a better future for our state.”

Yeah, why would the young African American have a shot at winning in this large field of other credible challengers

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Mitchell already has a record of failure. No thanks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: Gass3268 on January 20, 2018, 03:46:06 PM
Here are some SD-10 maps if anyone is interested:

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Source (https://twitter.com/JZTessler/status/953744928932278273)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on January 22, 2018, 03:16:55 PM
Walker looking to shore up Obamacare marketplace in WI:

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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) is looking to stabilize the state's ObamaCare marketplace after Republicans failed to repeal and replace the law last year.
...
Walker said he will seek federal permission to set up a reinsurance program, which provides payments to plans that cover higher-cost enrollees in an effort to lower premiums for everyone else.
Walker also said he will ask state lawmakers to codify in state law protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/370128-wisconsins-republican-governor-looks-to-shore-up-obamacare


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: Dr. Arch on January 22, 2018, 03:36:11 PM
Walker looking to shore up Obamacare marketplace in WI:

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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) is looking to stabilize the state's ObamaCare marketplace after Republicans failed to repeal and replace the law last year.
...
Walker said he will seek federal permission to set up a reinsurance program, which provides payments to plans that cover higher-cost enrollees in an effort to lower premiums for everyone else.
Walker also said he will ask state lawmakers to codify in state law protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/370128-wisconsins-republican-governor-looks-to-shore-up-obamacare

lol, I hate that he's such a snake.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: IceSpear on January 22, 2018, 03:48:24 PM
I wonder how many Walker/Baldwin voters there's going to be in the WOW counties. I'm also curious if there's going to end up being more there or in the rurals.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: junior chįmp on January 22, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
Walker looking to shore up Obamacare marketplace in WI:

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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) is looking to stabilize the state's ObamaCare marketplace after Republicans failed to repeal and replace the law last year.
...
Walker said he will seek federal permission to set up a reinsurance program, which provides payments to plans that cover higher-cost enrollees in an effort to lower premiums for everyone else.
Walker also said he will ask state lawmakers to codify in state law protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/370128-wisconsins-republican-governor-looks-to-shore-up-obamacare

Like I said: Walker is finished


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: mcmikk on January 22, 2018, 08:14:14 PM
I wonder how many Walker/Baldwin voters there's going to be in the WOW counties. I'm also curious if there's going to end up being more there or in the rurals.

That will be interesting to see, if there are any. Walker hasn't exactly distanced himself from Trump. He wanks Trump off constantly ever since he won the nomination. That said, I'm thinking there will be more in WOW than in rural areas, unless the Gov nominee ends up being Paul Soglin or someone like that. But it won't, it will be Evers. Walker was successfully able to prey on rural-urban resentment in previous campaigns, but since Evers isn't from Madison or Milwaukee, and is generally pretty inoffensive and seems like a guy that can communicate with rural voters particularly in Western Wisconsin. As for Baldwin, she has her own strengths and she's pretty good in Western Wisconsin so I'm thinking she and Evers will get similar margins there.

TLDR chances are if Baldwin does significantly better than Evers, it will be because of ticket splitters in WOW. That's my hunch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 23, 2018, 01:06:17 AM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: mcmikk on January 23, 2018, 07:49:08 AM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.

Ones in WOW, where Ron Johnson outperformed Trump by roughly 30,000 votes in 2016, and in a midterm where upballot trends will start to translate downballot. See: Arkansas Senate Election, 2010.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: IceSpear on January 23, 2018, 03:23:02 PM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.

Is it really hard to see how McCain, Romney, etc. differ drastically from Trump?

I doubt they'll "vote against all Republicans" though. My guess is they still come in heavy for Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: Gustaf on January 24, 2018, 08:50:52 AM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.

Is it really hard to see how McCain, Romney, etc. differ drastically from Trump?

I doubt they'll "vote against all Republicans" though. My guess is they still come in heavy for Walker.

I mean, don't the results in places like NOVA suggest there are indeed a bunch of such voters?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: 💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his) on January 24, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.

Is it really hard to see how McCain, Romney, etc. differ drastically from Trump?

I doubt they'll "vote against all Republicans" though. My guess is they still come in heavy for Walker.

I mean, don't the results in places like NOVA suggest there are indeed a bunch of such voters?

Yes, although WOW has a lot more of these consistent-R voters than NoVa, the latter of which had a lot of its moderate R support fall through in 2006-2008 (when Tom Davis and John Warner retired). Then again, the Republican last state-office holders in Northern Virginia (finally) got voted out this year. I think it's possible a lot of these voters defect for just this cycle in WOW but I still have a hard time seeing them leaving Walker. Then again, the main story in Virginia was Fairfax/PW/LoCo Republicans ditching their incumbent Republican delegates, so maybe this is possible. I'm still hoping that we can win the race by swinging Driftless area Dems rather than hoping for WOW defections.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Gass3268 on February 19, 2018, 11:39:39 PM
Conservative Justice Michael Gableman decided not to run for reelection this year and there are three people running to replace him: Madison business attorney Tim Burns, Milwaukee County Judge Rebecca Dallet and Sauk County Judge Michael Screnock. Burns and Dallet are liberals and Screnock is the conservative.

Top two will go on to face each other in the main spring election on April 3, 2018. Given the national environment, there is a good chance that the liberals could take the seat and move the court back to only a 4-3 advantage for the conservatives. It also is just another example of how much folks screwed up with no liberal running last year when Tony Evers dominated his race for State Superintendent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 19, 2018, 11:41:51 PM
I don’t see a way for conservatives to hold this seat, honestly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 19, 2018, 11:50:26 PM
I don’t see a way for conservatives to hold this seat, honestly.

Maybe there's even a surprise and both left-leaning judges advance to the general. I'm throwing my support for Tim.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - SD-10 Maps
Post by: Tintrlvr on February 19, 2018, 11:58:56 PM
I'm having a tough time picturing what sort of Milwaukee suburban voter voted for Bush twice, voted for McCain and Romney, and voted for Walker three times amongst all that, but then considered Trump a bridge too far and is now voting against all Republicans because of that.

Is it really hard to see how McCain, Romney, etc. differ drastically from Trump?

I doubt they'll "vote against all Republicans" though. My guess is they still come in heavy for Walker.

I mean, don't the results in places like NOVA suggest there are indeed a bunch of such voters?

Certainly - although demographic change is way underrated as a cause of shifts in NOVA and to a lesser extent in other suburban areas around the country. A lot of McCain 2008 voters were dead by 2016, and most voters who moved in (or turned 18) after 2008 voted for Clinton. In much of the country, this trend was offset (or completely overshadowed) by a lot of Kerry 2004/Obama 2008 voters switching to Romney, or sticking with Obama in 2012 and then switching to Trump, but those types of voters are thin on the ground in wealthier suburban areas, while demographic change is happening faster in urban and suburban areas than in rural areas (and faster in some urban and suburban areas than in others).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: KingSweden on February 20, 2018, 12:04:08 AM
Tim Burns follows me on Twitter so I'm, whether I like it or not, obligated to give him my full moral support. Is he favored to receive a higher % vs. Dallet?

There’s an outside chance (unlikely IMO) both liberals advance. My read is that Dallet is favored, though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Koharu on February 20, 2018, 09:54:07 AM
I haven't heard much about who is favored, but the statewide and Dane county Dems are pushing hard for Burns. Mark Pocan also endorsed him. My vote will be for Dallet, based on their interviews with various newspapers and such.

Heading to the polling place here in the next few hours, so I'll report on how things look there, as well as behavior of the poll volunteers. At the 2016 general, my husband got turned away for his ID address not matching his polling address, which is not how the law works. Luckily he knew that, as I also have an ID with our old address on it, and voted before him, so he pressed the worker and was allowed to vote. But I am afraid that other people may have been turned away.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Koharu on February 20, 2018, 09:57:44 AM
Oh, is there any sort of polling that's been done on the Democratic primary candidates for governor? The field is flooded, and I'd kind of like to see which way the winds are blowing...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Tekken_Guy on February 20, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Screnock was endorsed by the NRA one day before the Parkland shooting. This election will certainly be a referendum on gun politics.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: MasterJedi on February 20, 2018, 10:42:14 AM
Moved last fall, think I figured out where I'm supposed to vote, we'll find out if I'm right after work. Just the State SC and local school board election to vote in. The school board has it split between those who are infuriated the school board passed an energy saves/repair motion last year without letting the voters try and vote it down. Will be voting for those in favor of the correct use of power/not the morons who want to pay nothing for schools.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Koharu on February 20, 2018, 10:54:46 AM
Moved last fall, think I figured out where I'm supposed to vote, we'll find out if I'm right after work. Just the State SC and local school board election to vote in. The school board has it split between those who are infuriated the school board passed an energy saves/repair motion last year without letting the voters try and vote it down. Will be voting for those in favor of the correct use of power/not the morons who want to pay nothing for schools.

Super easy to look up in WI: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: MasterJedi on February 20, 2018, 10:58:15 AM
Moved last fall, think I figured out where I'm supposed to vote, we'll find out if I'm right after work. Just the State SC and local school board election to vote in. The school board has it split between those who are infuriated the school board passed an energy saves/repair motion last year without letting the voters try and vote it down. Will be voting for those in favor of the correct use of power/not the morons who want to pay nothing for schools.

Super easy to look up in WI: https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/

Thanks, it is showing the correct area. They just moved the polling places out of schools in my new city so I wasn't sure if it would have been correct, but thankfully it is.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Koharu on February 20, 2018, 11:00:29 AM
IIRC it's run by what used to be the GAB. The folks there try to stay on top of things.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: redjohn on February 20, 2018, 11:20:01 AM
Voted for Tim Burns. Hoping Dallet and Burns make it through the primary, but questioning whether even low turnout could leave the field with just two left-wingers. Guess we'll find out later.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 12:04:52 PM
Voted for Tim Burns. Hoping Dallet and Burns make it through the primary, but questioning whether even low turnout could leave the field with just two left-wingers. Guess we'll find out later.

Pretty much this.

Two votes for Tim from my household :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 20, 2018, 12:17:58 PM
I think I'm leaning towards Dallet in the primary only because I fear that Burns might lose the general. If it's Dallet vs Burns I'd probably vote Burns. Weird.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: MasterJedi on February 20, 2018, 12:19:34 PM
I think I'm leaning towards Dallet in the primary only because I fear that Burns might lose the general. If it's Dallet vs Burns I'd probably vote Burns. Weird.

That's where my mind is going right now too.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 12:59:44 PM
Walker's approval is nearly identical to Trump's in a new PPP poll:

Walker:
Approve 43%
Disapprove 52%

Trump:
Approve 44%
Disapprove 52%

Obviously, not good for Walker

Source (http://www.thewheelerreport.com/wheeler_docs/files/0219lgbtpoll.pdf)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: redjohn on February 20, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
Walker's approval is nearly identical to Trump's in a new PPP poll:

Walker:
Approve 43%
Disapprove 52%

Trump:
Approve 44%
Disapprove 52%

Obviously, not good for Walker


Trump's approval doesn't look bad in Wisconsin. 44% approve (MOE not on document), Trump received 47.22% of the vote (only about 3% higher than approval rating), and presumably, some chunk of the unsure 4% will vote for Trump. The disapprove vote won't go solely to Democrats; 6.33% of the vote in 2016 went to other candidates. Subtract six percent from the "disapprove", give Trump the benefit of the MOE, and you have a real problem if Democrats are once again virtually tied in Wisconsin. Walker's approval rating is definitely looking bad for Republicans because third-party gubernatorial candidates only received about 1% in the last election, but Trump is looking steadier than some would lead you to believe.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Holmes on February 20, 2018, 01:17:14 PM
It's folly to extrapolate results for an election over 2 years from now based on one poll.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 01:19:19 PM
It's folly to extrapolate results for an election over 2 years from now based on one poll.

PPP has also leaned to the right since Trump has been President.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: MasterJedi on February 20, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
It's folly to extrapolate results for an election over 2 years from now based on one poll.

For Walker at least we can use it, election is this fall. Hope he can get slapped out of office.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Koharu on February 20, 2018, 02:25:16 PM
I was voter #340 at around 1 this afternoon at the Verona library. Was very dead when I was there, but I'm betting most of the votes in Verona are in the evening. No hiccoughs with ID this time, and there were informative signs about the process, so overall it seems like the poll workers are more comfortable with how things go now than they were in November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Nhoj on February 20, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
I had to re register, but since im still in the same town wasn't hard to do. Was around 35 votes so far which I would say is low even for here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 02:42:38 PM
I had to re register, but since im still in the same town wasn't hard to do. Was around 35 votes so far which I would say is low even for here.

I was 60 at my ward really early in the morning, which is pretty high.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
City of Madison was already to the statewide spring primary average by 11 AM:

Quote
Madison WI Clerk‏
Verified account
@MadisonWIClerk


Replying to @PollsAndVotes
City of Madison is at 7.12% turnout as of 11 am.

Quote
Charles Franklin
‏@PollsAndVotes
 
Charles Franklin Retweeted Madison WI Clerk
Dane county ranked 5th in 2014 midterm turnout among 72 Wisc counties. (After Ozaukee, Waukesha, Door and Washington)

Avg spring primary statewide turnout is 7.8%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 20, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
City of Madison was already to the statewide spring primary average by 11 AM:

Quote
Madison WI Clerk‏
Verified account
@MadisonWIClerk


Replying to @PollsAndVotes
City of Madison is at 7.12% turnout as of 11 am.

Quote
Charles Franklin
‏@PollsAndVotes
 
Charles Franklin Retweeted Madison WI Clerk
Dane county ranked 5th in 2014 midterm turnout among 72 Wisc counties. (After Ozaukee, Waukesha, Door and Washington)

Avg spring primary statewide turnout is 7.8%.

Dane punched way above it's weight last spring too, which is part of the reason Evers crushed it in the DPI election. This is probably very good news for Burns, assuming that Dane is over-performing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
City of Madison was already to the statewide spring primary average by 11 AM:

Quote
Madison WI Clerk‏
Verified account
@MadisonWIClerk


Replying to @PollsAndVotes
City of Madison is at 7.12% turnout as of 11 am.

Quote
Charles Franklin
‏@PollsAndVotes
 
Charles Franklin Retweeted Madison WI Clerk
Dane county ranked 5th in 2014 midterm turnout among 72 Wisc counties. (After Ozaukee, Waukesha, Door and Washington)

Avg spring primary statewide turnout is 7.8%.

Dane punched way above it's weight last spring too, which is part of the reason Evers crushed it in the DPI election. This is probably very good news for Burns, assuming that Dane is over-performing.

Yep, seems in line with my ward.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say Burns places 1st, though I'm not sure about who else advances.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Doimper on February 20, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
When will results come in?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 06:19:57 PM
Burns has run an interesting campaign. He's been a very open liberal progressive Democrat, and makes no bones about it. He openly derides the notion that the judicial is an apolitical, nonpartisan entity, and that that thinking is what caused all these right-wing judges to get in there in the first place. I admire his boldness, and his offbeat, unorthodox campaign is very appealing to me, potentially because it reminds me of someone I am a bit fond of ;)

Needless to say, I'll be rooting for him. I'm excited to see progressives finally start taking back the state Supreme Court. It would be great to see the two liberals advance and the horrendous WI GOP gets locked out of the General, but at the same time it would be nice to see the conservative get smacked in a head-to-head.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 06:20:28 PM

Polls close at 9 PM EST.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Tomorrow
Post by: Doimper on February 20, 2018, 06:26:30 PM

Cool, thanks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
Anyone have a link for results?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Jeppe on February 20, 2018, 09:03:14 PM
https://t.co/WZFnhdMiLu (https://t.co/WZFnhdMiLu)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 09:04:01 PM
Anyone have link with a map? xD


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:11:52 PM

Here you go (https://www.wisconsinvote.org/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
About 7% in:

Screnock - 11,125
Dallet - 9,996
Burns - 4,599



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 09:20:28 PM
Things aren't looking peachy for Burns. :/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: redjohn on February 20, 2018, 09:21:16 PM
Looks like Dallet vs Screnock. Oh well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:21:21 PM
About 16 in:

Screnock - 44,301
Dallet - 29,230
Burns - 11,991

About half of Waukesha County just dropped


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Things aren't looking peachy for Burns. :/

Nothing from Dane County yet


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 09:22:06 PM
Things aren't looking peachy for Burns. :/
Be careful what you wish for, he's a guy so extreme that he could be removed from the court a la Rose Bird or Roy Moore


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
Live results by county available here. (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/2/20/february-2018-milwaukee-area-primary-election-results.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 09:23:35 PM
Screnock got what he needed from Waukesha. It looks like Dallet v Scenock in the GE.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:23:41 PM
Dallet up big in Dane County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:26:28 PM
Goddamn, Waukesha turns out for these primaries.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
Screnock is doing well in Milwaukee county, let's hope that what's left is the city.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:29:24 PM
Screnock got what he needed from Waukesha. It looks like Dallet v Scenock in the GE.

Screnock still has another 18,000 votes coming his way from Waukesha as well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:29:48 PM
Quote
Decision Desk HQ

Verified account
 
@DecisionDeskHQ
 3m3 minutes ago
More
In Wisconsin, we project that Michael Screnock and Rebecca Dallet will advance to the general election for Wisconsin State Supreme Court


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:30:55 PM
Screnock is doing well in Milwaukee county, let's hope that what's left is the city.

I remember Scott Walker led in Milwaukee County returns in 2010, 2012, and 2014. Calm the hell down

We can't let him hit 50%, and he stands a fighting chance.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:31:44 PM
Screnock is doing well in Milwaukee county, let's hope that what's left is the city.

I remember Scott Walker led in Milwaukee County returns in 2010, 2012, and 2014. Calm the hell down

We can't let him hit 50%, and he stands a fighting chance.

Yeah, but that really isn't a massive deal.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:32:21 PM
Screnock getting 40% in Milwaukee county with 80% reporting. That is not good.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 09:32:48 PM
I remember that Kloppenburg won the primary by a plurality only to lose the GE in an inverse situation, so rest assured.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:33:35 PM
Screnock getting 40% in Milwaukee county with 80% reporting. That is not good.

Exactly PNM, you really should stop snoozing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:34:06 PM
Screnock getting 40% in Milwaukee county with 80% reporting. That is not good.

This is what elections look like in Milwaukee County if the minority voters aren't enthused.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 09:34:25 PM
Screnock getting 40% in Milwaukee county with 80% reporting. That is not good.
That will drop(usually the precincts that are last to report are ones from downtown Milwaukee) but it's still a good sign nonetheless


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
Screnock getting 40% in Milwaukee county with 80% reporting. That is not good.

Exactly PNM, you really should stop snoozing.

Jesus Christ. How much you want to bet he doesn’t end up that close to 40 when the rest of Milwaukee counts?

OFC not, but it will be around 36-37% which aint great.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:35:55 PM
On the other hand, Screnock having unimpressive showings in Kenosha and Ozaukee counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:36:32 PM
Big dump for Dallet and Burns out of Dane County.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:36:49 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   41,842   17%   
Rebecca Dallet   93,234   38%   
Michael Screnock   110,012   45%   
37% reporting (1298 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
Burns might win Ashland County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 20, 2018, 09:38:46 PM
Screnock doing well in the Green Bay area, but only 18/91 precincts in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Screnock doing well in the Green Bay area, but only 18/91 precincts in.

Yet not doing that well in Winnebago County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on February 20, 2018, 09:40:29 PM
It seems like the results are less polarized. Screnock doing better than usual conservatives in blue areas, doing worse in red areas (besides WoW)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:41:20 PM
Keep an eye out on Washington County, it will probably be a large victory for Screnock. Turnout is key though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
93% of Milwaukee now in and Screnock getting 39%. Looks like certain people were wrong.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:42:34 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   42,963   17%   
Rebecca Dallet   95,151   38%   
Michael Screnock   112,586   45%   
39% reporting (1351 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 09:43:19 PM
93% of Milwaukee now in and Screnock getting 39%. Looks like certain people were wrong.
But the remaining precincts are majority-minority so he'll end up with 36-37%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:43:46 PM
Washington County just dump almost all of their votes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:45:11 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   44,858   16%   
Rebecca Dallet   99,544   37%   
Michael Screnock   128,041   47%   
41% reporting (1430 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:45:18 PM
Burns doing really well on the Lake Superior Shoreline counties that swung hard to Trump


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:45:37 PM
Can Screnock be held under 50?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:46:20 PM

If he goes over 50 does he just win the seat today?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 09:46:57 PM

If he goes over 50 does he just win the seat today?
No, it goes to a runoff no matter what


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:48:09 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   51,230   17%   
Rebecca Dallet   109,767   37%   
Michael Screnock   132,902   45%   
44% reporting (1516 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Journal Sentinel calls it for Dallet and Screnock. (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/2/20/february-2018-milwaukee-area-primary-election-results.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:49:10 PM
So is Screnock gonna get pinned under 50 or not?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 09:49:53 PM
Western WI is looking good, and parts of eastern are not going for Screnock for as much as I thought they would.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:50:02 PM
So is Screnock gonna get pinned under 50 or not?

Most likely, but even if he got to 50% there would be a runoff anyway.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
So is Screnock gonna get pinned under 50 or not?

Most likely, but even if he got to 50% there would be a runoff anyway.

IK, but I just wanna see dems win the majority of the pv in the state again.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:51:26 PM
So is Screnock gonna get pinned under 50 or not?

Most likely, but even if he got to 50% there would be a runoff anyway.

IK, but I just wanna see dems win the majority of the pv in the state again.

True. I think they will.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Oryxslayer on February 20, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
Please remember how things go (or used to go) in Wisconsin: dem leaning areas tend to come in later in the night, with republicans pulling out ahead early.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 09:52:58 PM
It's hard to tell at this point, the reults are less polarized than a partisan election but almost all of Milwaukee and Dane are in


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 20, 2018, 09:53:39 PM
Dallet is still heavily favored in April, obviously.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 09:53:49 PM
I'm making a county map of which party got the majority. Dems have already flipped Kenosha county from 2016, and it look like they're outperforming Clinton by a lot in western WI.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
I'm making a county map of which party got the majority. Dems have already flipped Kenosha county from 2016, and it look like they're outperforming Clinton by a lot in western WI.

Pretty much every Wisconsin Dem will. Clinton was uniquely awful for rural areas, including the swingy Driftless Region, Western WI. Hell, Feingold won 6 Trump counties in 2016.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 20, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Piss poor Milwaukee County turnout that Dallet will need to address in the runoff. If she can get more voters to turnout there she has it in the bag in April

She'll probably have it in the bag regardless.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 09:57:33 PM
Piss poor Milwaukee County turnout that Dallet will need to address in the runoff. If she can get more voters to turnout there she has it in the bag in April

Dane County is probably going to outvote Milwaukee, with about half of the population.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 09:59:00 PM
Exactly half of precincts in.

Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   55,046   17%   
Rebecca Dallet   118,460   37%   
Michael Screnock   144,715   45%   
50% reporting (1740 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:08:43 PM
Liberals didn't do so bad in Marathon County and unsurprisingly dominated in Eau Claire County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:11:48 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   67,719   18%   
Rebecca Dallet   139,563   37%   
Michael Screnock   171,487   45%   
62% reporting (2167 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:14:59 PM
Liberals won Iron County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
Democrats looks like they'll end up getting 54-55% of the vote. That's huge.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:18:30 PM
Screnock underperformed Walker in Waukesha County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 10:19:26 PM
Looks like we win the pv, good!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on February 20, 2018, 10:19:44 PM
Looks like Screnock did a lot better than Trump in WoW and milwaukee, slightly better in most of eastern WI, and did a lot worse in most of the rest of the state (particularly western WI)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:20:24 PM
Liberals won over 60% in Vernon County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 20, 2018, 10:22:32 PM
Screnock underperformed Walker in Waukesha County

But outperformed Johnson ’16 (albeit only narrowly).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 10:22:53 PM
Yall think we will win Racine county tonight?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:23:48 PM
Yall think we will win Racine county tonight?

Considering how poor minority turnout was in Milwaukee County, no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:31:40 PM
Yall think we will win Racine county tonight?

Considering how poor minority turnout was in Milwaukee County, no.

Yeah, Screnock got 57% of the vote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
Screnock creeping back up

Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   79,176   17%   
Rebecca Dallet   163,598   36%   
Michael Screnock   211,720   47%   
77% reporting (2693 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:33:53 PM
Wow, Screnock only got about 12% of the vote in Crawford County.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:36:25 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   81,620   18%   
Rebecca Dallet   168,029   36%   
Michael Screnock   216,702   46%   
80% reporting (2786 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:37:16 PM
Wow, Screnock only got about 12% of the vote in Crawford County.

Nvm, it was a typo, he got 42%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:37:59 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   82,985   18%   
Rebecca Dallet   170,099   36%   
Michael Screnock   219,454   46%   
83% reporting (2879 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:40:22 PM
Liberals won Outagamie County


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on February 20, 2018, 10:43:03 PM
The terrible Milwaukee performance is really pulling the leftwing down. Dallet is going to want to juice turnout up in April.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 20, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
Liberals win St Croix County - Driftless Region is not liking Screnock.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:45:01 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   86,313   18%   
Rebecca Dallet   175,805   36%   
Michael Screnock   228,831   47%   
88% reporting (3070 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 10:46:20 PM
Lol at Menominee county.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 10:48:05 PM
Final Dane dump.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: MT Treasurer on February 20, 2018, 10:48:38 PM
Liberals won Brown County!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Sestak on February 20, 2018, 10:48:53 PM
Justice of the Supreme Court - Wisconsin
NAME   VOTES   PCT.   
Tim Burns   88,064   18%   
Rebecca Dallet   178,618   36%   
Michael Screnock   231,697   46%   
91% reporting (3157 of 3480 precincts)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 10:49:04 PM
Western Wisconsin turning swinging hard left.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:49:24 PM

Liberals got 83% of the vote there, lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 10:50:13 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on February 20, 2018, 10:50:44 PM

Dane did really well tonight, I was very happy there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:52:22 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.

Not sure on Monroe


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Here is the combo map so far:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 20, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
Liberals win Winnebago


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 10:55:37 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.
Screnock is from sauk and Trump won 60% of the vote there


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 20, 2018, 10:56:07 PM
It would be interesting to see Western Counties Liberal v. Obama 2012 numbers. It's vital for Dem futures in Wisconsin to crush it in the Driftless area and not be totally slaughtered in the Twin Cities suburbs.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 10:56:27 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.
Screnock is from sauk and Trump won 60% of the vote there

Nope. Sauk was a Trump +0.4 county.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 10:58:28 PM
Haha, Liberals won Onedia way up in the Northwoods.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Pandaguineapig on February 20, 2018, 10:59:21 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.
Screnock is from sauk and Trump won 60% of the vote there

Nope. Sauk was a Trump +0.4 county.

My bad, mistook it for an adjacent county. But Screnock still is their ciruit judge


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:04:22 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.

Not sure on Monroe

I was wrong!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:06:20 PM
Someone was asking about the Minneapolis burbs.

Polk county went from 61-33 Trump to 51-49 Screnock
Saint Croix went from 55-37 Trump to 52-48 Liberals.
Pierce went from 53-39 Trump to 55-45 Liberals.
Dunn went from 52-41 Trump to 57-43 Liberals.

 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:09:04 PM
Biggest swing was Pepin county, went from 59-36 Trump to 56-44 Liberals.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
Dane County turnout was at 25.5%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:10:55 PM

Holy.... Pretty sure 2016 spring primary was like 18%




Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:11:48 PM
Still zero reports from Door, Lincoln, Sauk, Sawyer counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:12:39 PM
Still zero reports from Door, Lincoln, Sauk, Sawyer counties.

Door is in! Dallet won outright!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:13:52 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.

Not sure on Monroe

I was wrong!
What was Monroe? The county figures don’t work for me on iphone

51-49 Liberals.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
Still nothing from Door, Douglas, Sauk, and Monroe, all of which will be easy liberal wins.

Not sure on Monroe

I was wrong!
What was Monroe? The county figures don’t work for me on iphone

Burns 457 17%
Dallet 864 33%
Screnock 1,293 49%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:14:50 PM
Horrendous showing for Screnock in Door County - loses 61-39 to the Liberals.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: LimoLiberal on February 20, 2018, 11:21:03 PM
It's currently Liberals 53.6 to Screnick 46.4


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on February 20, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
This election shows just how important Milwaukee county is for dems in Wisconsin. They did very well outside of Milwaukee and WoW, but the margin isn't nearly as good as that would reflect because of poor performance and turnout in Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 20, 2018, 11:35:35 PM
Someone was asking about the Minneapolis burbs.

Polk county went from 61-33 Trump to 51-49 Screnock
Saint Croix went from 55-37 Trump to 52-48 Liberals.
Pierce went from 53-39 Trump to 55-45 Liberals.
Dunn went from 52-41 Trump to 57-43 Liberals.

 
What the hell is going on in St. Croix county and surrounding areas? The special election was a huge trend left and now tonight. This place region withstood the Obama Badger state sweep of '08. Hudson just doesn't seem like a place that would be open to voting Dem downballot. It's not known for manufacturing tendencies, wealthy champagne liberalism, and it's mostly white flight from the Twin Cities.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:36:00 PM
This election shows just how important Milwaukee county is for dems in Wisconsin. They did very well outside of Milwaukee and WoW, but the margin isn't nearly as good as that would reflect because of poor performance and turnout in Milwaukee.

Yup, margin actually wasn't too different than what Walker did in 2014.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 20, 2018, 11:38:19 PM
Someone was asking about the Minneapolis burbs.

Polk county went from 61-33 Trump to 51-49 Screnock
Saint Croix went from 55-37 Trump to 52-48 Liberals.
Pierce went from 53-39 Trump to 55-45 Liberals.
Dunn went from 52-41 Trump to 57-43 Liberals.

 
What the hell is going on in St. Croix county and surrounding areas? The special election was a huge trend left and now tonight. This place region withstood the Obama Badger state sweep of '08. Hudson just doesn't seem like a place that would be open to voting Dem downballot. It's not known for manufacturing tendencies, wealthy champagne liberalism, and it's mostly white flight from the Twin Cities.

New trends and shifts arise as new voting constituencies form. In this case, it's likely a hard swing against the brand of politics Trump has championed into the Republican party and to the "conservative" brand as a result.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: TJ in Oregon on February 20, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Someone was asking about the Minneapolis burbs.

Polk county went from 61-33 Trump to 51-49 Screnock
Saint Croix went from 55-37 Trump to 52-48 Liberals.
Pierce went from 53-39 Trump to 55-45 Liberals.
Dunn went from 52-41 Trump to 57-43 Liberals.

 
What the hell is going on in St. Croix county and surrounding areas? The special election was a huge trend left and now tonight. This place region withstood the Obama Badger state sweep of '08. Hudson just doesn't seem like a place that would be open to voting Dem downballot. It's not known for manufacturing tendencies, wealthy champagne liberalism, and it's mostly white flight from the Twin Cities.

New trends and shifts arise as new voting constituencies form. In this case, it's likely a hard swing against the brand of politics Trump has championed into the Republican party and to the "conservative" brand as a result.

Most likely there is simply a turnout difference between the two parties as far as who would bother showing up for a (nominally) nonpartisan spring primary election.

These numbers look vaguely good for the Democrats but I wouldn't read much into it. The real election is in a couple months. I'm not saying Dallet won't win, but it isn't as simple as adding the two Dems' percentages together and comparing to Screnock.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 20, 2018, 11:53:57 PM
I assume the problems in Milwaukee would be fixed by black turnout during the regular election, however the numbers in Kenosha and Racine counties are outright brutal for the Dems.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:56:54 PM
Liberals won Sauk, Screnock's home county.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 20, 2018, 11:58:48 PM
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Here is what the combo map looks like now. I'm going to bed, hopefully we're at 100% by the time I wake up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 21, 2018, 12:02:02 AM
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Here is what the combo map looks like now. I'm going to bed, hopefully we're at 100% by the time I wake up.
Great map. Eyeballing it, I think Liberals might have won Duffy's district and (of course the Madison/Milwaukee/Driftless triad), but I'm not totally sure. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 21, 2018, 07:44:06 AM
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Here is what the combo map looks like now. I'm going to bed, hopefully we're at 100% by the time I wake up.

Looks good, this is about what Democrats need to win statewide. As important as turnout in Madison and Milwaukee are, Driftless pretty much decides elections here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Koharu on February 21, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
It's important to note that Dallet was not endorsed by the Democratic party and that she very much ran as a non-partisan. She may be more left-leaning, but using this election to try to call trends is going to be very misleading.

Regarding Milwaukee county: This is where, unfortunately, the ID laws have had the biggest impact. This was seen in the 2016 general election, too, and I think it will continue to depress turnout in the Milwaukee and surrounding area, especially for Democrats.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
Final map by party total, 100% Reporting:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2018, 10:30:04 AM
Final map by party total, 100% Reporting:

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Solid map. Racine is really the odd duck here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: windjammer on February 21, 2018, 10:30:36 AM
Who is the favorite to win the run off?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2018, 10:33:12 AM

Should be Dallet. She did really well in the Driftless region.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2018, 10:47:19 AM

Should be Dallet. She did really well in the Driftless region.

What's really impressive to me, frankly, is Dane County. Yes, the liberals combined did really well out west, but Dane turned in an 83-17 liberal win with 25% turnout. That's outstanding.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 21, 2018, 10:51:40 AM

Should be Dallet. She did really well in the Driftless region.

What's really impressive to me, frankly, is Dane County. Yes, the liberals combined did really well out west, but Dane turned in an 83-17 liberal win with 25% turnout. That's outstanding.

Yeah, especially in an election where turnout is expected in the single digits--all good signs.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on February 21, 2018, 11:18:12 AM
Yes the results in most of the state were very good for liberals... but the results in milwaukee were just pathetic and milwaukee county is the most populated.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: junior chįmp on February 21, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 21, 2018, 11:32:43 AM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?
Nah, I don’t see any Dem candidate inspiring the Driftless area while at the same time reducing losses in Walker’s WOW base.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 21, 2018, 12:13:13 PM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?
Nah, I don’t see any Dem candidate inspiring the Driftless area while at the same time reducing losses in Walker’s WOW base.

Why would Burns/Dallet over perform in the Driftless but the governors candidates would not?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on February 21, 2018, 12:18:57 PM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?
Nah, I don’t see any Dem candidate inspiring the Driftless area while at the same time reducing losses in Walker’s WOW base.

Why would Burns/Dallet over perform in the Driftless but the governors candidates would not?
Due to the nature of the race, the Liberals were able to blur party lines in a way a Gubernatorial candidate practically can’t.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: mcmikk on February 21, 2018, 05:19:56 PM

Should be Dallet. She did really well in the Driftless region.

What's really impressive to me, frankly, is Dane County. Yes, the liberals combined did really well out west, but Dane turned in an 83-17 liberal win with 25% turnout. That's outstanding.

Yeah, especially in an election where turnout is expected in the single digits--all good signs.

Yep. Dane County has plenty of #Resistance types who are fired up and you can bet that turnout will be pretty juiced up there in the General as well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Koharu on February 23, 2018, 09:22:43 AM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?
Nah, I don’t see any Dem candidate inspiring the Driftless area while at the same time reducing losses in Walker’s WOW base.

Not even Vinehout? I think she has the best chance at wider appeal. Unfortunately, I don't think she'll do well in the primary, since Dane county seems bleh on her.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 23, 2018, 09:29:25 AM
So, based on these results, can we all finally agree that Scott Walker is finished?
Nah, I don’t see any Dem candidate inspiring the Driftless area while at the same time reducing losses in Walker’s WOW base.

Not even Vinehout? I think she has the best chance at wider appeal. Unfortunately, I don't think she'll do well in the primary, since Dane county seems bleh on her.

To be honest, I listened to her in forums and talks, and she did not impress me.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wiz in Wis on February 23, 2018, 10:20:03 AM
I still don't get the argument that Dallet/Burns are better suited to the Driftless region than would be Evers/Mitchell, etc. Dallet is from Milwaukee, Burns is from Madison.

I mean, Screnock is from Sauk County! He's from that region! Why would Walker do better there than a native son?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 23, 2018, 04:42:36 PM
I still don't get the argument that Dallet/Burns are better suited to the Driftless region than would be Evers/Mitchell, etc. Dallet is from Milwaukee, Burns is from Madison.

I mean, Screnock is from Sauk County! He's from that region! Why would Walker do better there than a native son?

Because there is no serious argument that the driftless area is titanium Walker. He was just lucky to have run in very Republican-friendly years

Burke didn't even do that bad in the Driftless Area. She did better than Barrett and even better than Hillary in most counties (Hillary did better in Eau Claire and La Crosse counties).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Skill and Chance on February 26, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
The almost Obama 2008 level rural west/MSP exurb overperformance combined with the left tanking in Milwaukee and the other cities along Lake Michigan makes this result look really odd.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: CatoMinor on February 27, 2018, 05:29:45 PM
Menominee County was oddly close.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Gass3268 on February 27, 2018, 05:33:28 PM
The almost Obama 2008 level rural west/MSP exurb overperformance combined with the left tanking in Milwaukee and the other cities along Lake Michigan makes this result look really odd.

Suggests to me that minority voters didn’t turnout, the heavily German and Dutch areas stuck with the right, while the Norwegians, Finns, and Poles went with the left.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Holmes on February 27, 2018, 05:37:32 PM

It does seem to vote oddly in non-partisan races.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: GlobeSoc on February 27, 2018, 05:43:56 PM

It does seem to vote oddly in non-partisan races.

Maybe low Native American turnout?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 01:31:33 PM
Wisconsin has a mixed to negative opinion on the Foxconn deal:

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‏@MULawPoll

Strongest support of Foxconn is in Milwaukee area outside of the city of Milwaukee. Only region of the state with over 50% support of Foxconn subsidy. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll
 
City residents much less likely than other metro area residents to think Foxconn benefits outweigh the state subsidy. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

Support of state’s Foxconnn subsidy is lower in Madison, Green Bay and north and west areas of the state. #mulawpoll

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‏@SJohnsonWPR

Some statewide Foxconn numbers in the latest Marquette poll.

Was WI's Foxconn deal worth it?
38% - yes
49% - no
13% - don't know
......
Will businesses near me benefit from Foxconn?
25% - yes
66% - no
8% - don't know


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Supreme Court Primary Results
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 05, 2018, 01:34:48 PM
Wisconsin has a mixed to negative opinion on the Foxconn deal:

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

Strongest support of Foxconn is in Milwaukee area outside of the city of Milwaukee. Only region of the state with over 50% support of Foxconn subsidy. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll
 
City residents much less likely than other metro area residents to think Foxconn benefits outweigh the state subsidy. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

Support of state’s Foxconnn subsidy is lower in Madison, Green Bay and north and west areas of the state. #mulawpoll

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Shawn Johnson
‏@SJohnsonWPR

Some statewide Foxconn numbers in the latest Marquette poll.

Was WI's Foxconn deal worth it?
38% - yes
49% - no
13% - don't know
......
Will businesses near me benefit from Foxconn?
25% - yes
66% - no
8% - don't know

Basically WOW v. everyone else. Looks like the pre-2016 Dem coalition being reassembled right there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
On Guns:

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‏@MULawPoll
 
On gun issues: 81% of WI voters support background checks on private gun sales and sales at gun shows, with 16% opposed. #mulawpoll

This is actually 8 point swing to opposed since June of 2016.

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‏@MULawPoll
 
56% favor ban on assault-style weapons, while 40% oppose a ban. Last time we asked, in March 2013, it was 54% in favor of ban, 43% opposed. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

12% think new gun laws would reduce mass shootings a great deal, 22% say they would reduce mass shootings a moderate amount. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

19% percent say new gun laws would reduce mass shooting a little, while 43% say they would have no effect at all on mass shootings. #mulawpoll

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‏@MULawPoll
 
Statewide, 44% of votes live in households with guns, 48% do not. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: junior chįmp on March 05, 2018, 01:49:50 PM
Like I've been saying for a year: Walker is finished


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 01:52:10 PM
Miscellaneous State Questions:

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll
 
Wisconsin: 53% say state is headed in the right direction, 44% say it is on the wrong track. In June, 53% right track, 42% wrong track. #mulawpoll


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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

63% of voters would rather increase public school spending than reduce property taxes; 33% favor reducing property taxes. In March 2014, it was 49% to reduce property taxes, 46% to increase public school spending. #mulawpoll

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‏@MULawPoll

Act 10, passed in 2011 limiting public employee union powers: 46% say keep it as is, 41% favor returning to collective bargaining. #mulawpoll

Was 50-43 in June 2012.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: MT Treasurer on March 05, 2018, 01:53:36 PM
Walker approval: 47/47. Was 48/48 in June 2017 and 45/48 in March 2017.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 01:54:51 PM
Walker Approval:

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‏@MULawPoll

Gov. Walker job rating: 47% approve, 47% disapprove. In June 2017, it was 48% and 48%. In March 2017, it was 45% approve, 48% disapprove. #mulawpoll

Democratic Challengers:

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‏@MULawPoll
 
Substantial majority of the public has not yet formed opinions of Democratic candidates for governor or GOP candidates for Senate. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

Tony Evers is best known of Dem gov candidates, with 20% favorable, 13% unfavorable, 66% don’t know enough or no opinion. #mulawpoll

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‏@MULawPoll

Favorables on other Dem candidates include: Soglin, 15%; Flynn, 13%; Vinehout, 12%; McCabe, 9%; Mitchell, 7%; Wachs, 7%; Gronik, 4%; Roys, 4%. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 02:00:09 PM
Lol

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‏@MULawPoll

WI Supreme Court race: Dallet, 14% favorable, 9% unfavorable, and Screnock 10% favorable and 9% unfavorable. #mulawpoll

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MULawPoll
‏@MULawPoll

With a month until the Supreme Court election, over 75% of voters say they haven’t heard enough or have no opinion on favorability of each candidate. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Littlefinger on March 05, 2018, 02:02:57 PM
Evers leading Dem Primary 18% to Soglin 9% and Flynn 7%.

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Evers favored by 18% who say they will vote in Dem primary for gov, Soglin by 9%, Flynn by 7%. Others at 6% or lower. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
The best number for Democrats in this poll:

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54% of Republicans, 64% of Democrats, 46% of independents say they are very enthusiastic about voting. #mulawpoll

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In March 2014, the “very enthusiastic” figures were 55% of Republicans, 52% of Democrats, and 42% of independents. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 05, 2018, 02:07:54 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
Immigration:

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Support for undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children: 86% say they should be allowed to stay and apply for citizenship. #mulawpoll

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Building a wall on Mexican border: 59% of WI voters oppose, 37% favor. #mulawpoll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 05, 2018, 02:09:37 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: mcmikk on March 06, 2018, 03:46:19 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 07, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Gass3268 on March 07, 2018, 10:55:44 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

He's doing his usual run fast to the middle in the second half of the term, after going hard right during the first half and sadly it works. I agree no one knows who he's running against and if it keeps up into the Summer it really does make Evers the best choice as at least he's been on a statewide ballot multiple times.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: Arkansas Yankee on March 08, 2018, 12:34:57 AM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

The stupid attempt to recall Walker permitted him to build an organization to survive the recall and get him re-elected.  He may be able to gear up that organization again for a third time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: BuckeyeNut on March 08, 2018, 12:56:48 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

The stupid attempt to recall Walker permitted him to build an organization to survive the recall and get him re-elected.  He may be able to gear up that organization again for a third time.

You mean fourth.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: redjohn on March 08, 2018, 01:13:39 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

The stupid attempt to recall Walker permitted him to build an organization to survive the recall and get him re-elected.  He may be able to gear up that organization again for a third time.

Exactly. This is not a race that's looking favorable for Dems... Evers is a lousy candidate. He's not inspiring or remotely interesting, and he'll lose to Walker, for whom the burbs and rural areas will actually show up for. He'll get disastrous numbers in Milwaukee, where Democratic turnout has dropped in recent years. I'll be voting for Mitchell, who actually stands a chance against Walker. If Evers wins the primary, Dems are toast.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: TJ in Oregon on March 08, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

He's doing his usual run fast to the middle in the second half of the term, after going hard right during the first half and sadly it works. I agree no one knows who he's running against and if it keeps up into the Summer it really does make Evers the best choice as at least he's been on a statewide ballot multiple times.

I doubt that really matters much, considering 66% still don't know who he is. Whomever the Democrats nominate will more or less have a fresh chance to define themselves (or fail to do so) in the general election.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - New Marquette Poll
Post by: mcmikk on March 08, 2018, 06:22:55 PM
Horrid numbers for the Dems in this poll. Walker treading even with all his struggles means he can only improve in his numbers from here.

Not with a 12% gap in voter enthusiasm.

It will be hard for him, but he's in a better position right now than I thought he would be by the end of his presidential run. Being back to 47/47 really does mean he has a fighting chance to get a third term, especially considering that no one knows the people running against him! Sure, he'll need to find a way to get Republicans to turn out and vote for him, which is easier said than done, but if anyone can find a way, my money would be on Scott Walker.

The stupid attempt to recall Walker permitted him to build an organization to survive the recall and get him re-elected.  He may be able to gear up that organization again for a third time.

Exactly. This is not a race that's looking favorable for Dems... Evers is a lousy candidate. He's not inspiring or remotely interesting, and he'll lose to Walker, for whom the burbs and rural areas will actually show up for. He'll get disastrous numbers in Milwaukee, where Democratic turnout has dropped in recent years. I'll be voting for Mitchell, who actually stands a chance against Walker. If Evers wins the primary, Dems are toast.

Lol.

Evers will do fine in rural areas. This meme that Driftless is Titanium Walker is so laughable. In recent elections since Trump was inaugurated Dems have been dominating in Driftless(including Evers himself in 2017). Walker just happened to run in good Republican years. We don't need huge turnout in Milwaukee County. We need Dane County juiced up in turnout numbers(and in the few statewide elections there have been, they've been punching above their weight considerably), as well as winning Driftless, which is looking pretty likely at this juncture.


Title: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Gass3268 on March 09, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: Basically every Democratic candidate running supports some form of Marijuana legalization (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2018/03/09/bice-wisconsin-democratic-guv-candidates-make-blunt-appeal-marijuana-advocates/361498002/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Dr. MB on March 09, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: Basically every Democratic candidate running supports some form of Marijuana legalization (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2018/03/09/bice-wisconsin-democratic-guv-candidates-make-blunt-appeal-marijuana-advocates/361498002/)
Great!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 10, 2018, 09:34:42 PM
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: Basically every Democratic candidate running supports some form of Marijuana legalization (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/daniel-bice/2018/03/09/bice-wisconsin-democratic-guv-candidates-make-blunt-appeal-marijuana-advocates/361498002/)
Great!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 14, 2018, 04:50:05 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.





Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 14, 2018, 04:51:01 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.





Vote has been ultra locked in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: junior chįmp on March 14, 2018, 04:55:27 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.

https://twitter.com/journalistish/status/973979870068912129

https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/973990074890248192

Jesus Christ I can't wait to see Scott Walker lose


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on March 14, 2018, 04:55:58 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.

https://twitter.com/journalistish/status/973979870068912129

https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/973990074890248192

Jesus Christ I can't wait to see Scott Walker lose


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Doimper on March 14, 2018, 04:59:17 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.

https://twitter.com/journalistish/status/973979870068912129

https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/973990074890248192

Jesus Christ I can't wait to see Scott Walker lose


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 14, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.

https://twitter.com/journalistish/status/973979870068912129

https://twitter.com/Tony4WI/status/973990074890248192

Jesus Christ I can't wait to see Scott Walker lose


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on March 14, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
Not necessarily relevant to the race, but I just want to say that Evers is a major FF.




I love Mitchell but this guy is Ultra Endorsed now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Virginiá on March 14, 2018, 06:54:12 PM
Crap I really want to see what Mondale originally wrote. Someone PM me please!

I only removed the tweet bbcode from some people's posts. I'm still unsure of what happens when a ton of people keep quoting the same embedded tweets causing it to load like 6-12 times every time a user views the page. Although it's different context, imgur blocked Atlas because people were using it a lot. I think Twitter alluded to similar viewing limits in their API documentation.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: _ on March 14, 2018, 07:22:24 PM
Good on Evers for supporting the Walkout, he'll definitely have the Youth vote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 14, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
Something I neglected to mention earlier is that Walker is coincidentally not at the Capitol today. Wonder why...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Gass3268 on March 15, 2018, 07:00:34 AM
Something I neglected to mention earlier is that Walker is coincidentally not at the Capitol today. Wonder why...

Not only was he not in the Capitol, he was in Florence, WI which is almost as far away as you can be from the Capitol and still be in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 16, 2018, 07:04:23 PM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Gass3268 on March 19, 2018, 09:15:56 AM
State Senator Terry Moulton (R-23: Chippewa Falls) is not seeking reelection (http://tp://www.nbc15.com/content/news/GOP-state-senator-wont-seek-re-election-477265123.html)

If the wave is as big as some of the special elections in the state have hinted at, this could flip.

District Map (http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/gisdocs/SenateMaps/Sen_23_Poster_Map.pdf)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 19, 2018, 10:56:32 AM
State Senator Terry Moulton (R-23: Chippewa Falls) is not seeking reelection (http://tp://www.nbc15.com/content/news/GOP-state-senator-wont-seek-re-election-477265123.html)

If the wave is as big as some of the special elections in the state have hinted at, this could flip.

District Map (http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/gisdocs/SenateMaps/Sen_23_Poster_Map.pdf)


Used to be held by Pat Krietlow (D), then before that Dave Zien (R). District inlcudes half of Marshfield and NE suburbs of Eau Claire (Chippewa Falls, Hallie, Altoona). Could be very swingy.

SD's 1, 5, 17, and now 23 are all up in 2018 and are no better for GOP than tossups at this point, given SD 10.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: MasterJedi on March 19, 2018, 11:01:27 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 19, 2018, 11:03:41 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!

the MKE County Dem Party is the most fragmented dumpster fire of a party in the state. Larson v Abele is a giant waste of time, and I hate all of them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Gass3268 on March 19, 2018, 11:08:28 AM
State Senator Terry Moulton (R-23: Chippewa Falls) is not seeking reelection (http://tp://www.nbc15.com/content/news/GOP-state-senator-wont-seek-re-election-477265123.html)

If the wave is as big as some of the special elections in the state have hinted at, this could flip.

District Map (http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/gisdocs/SenateMaps/Sen_23_Poster_Map.pdf)


Used to be held by Pat Krietlow (D), then before that Dave Zien (R). District inlcudes half of Marshfield and NE suburbs of Eau Claire (Chippewa Falls, Hallie, Altoona). Could be very swingy.

SD's 1, 5, 17, and now 23 are all up in 2018 and are no better for GOP than tossups at this point, given SD 10.

I'm going to be interested to see who all decides to step down this year with the oncoming wave. Still have until June 1st for the filling deadline.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 19, 2018, 11:21:18 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!

the MKE County Dem Party is the most fragmented dumpster fire of a party in the state. Larson v Abele is a giant waste of time, and I hate all of them.

Kinda fits the bill of the most fragmented city in the U.S.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: MasterJedi on March 19, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!

the MKE County Dem Party is the most fragmented dumpster fire of a party in the state. Larson v Abele is a giant waste of time, and I hate all of them.

Kinda fits the bill of the most fragmented city in the U.S.

You guys should read up on the wonder of a person that is Chris Larson. ::)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 19, 2018, 11:39:47 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!

the MKE County Dem Party is the most fragmented dumpster fire of a party in the state. Larson v Abele is a giant waste of time, and I hate all of them.

Kinda fits the bill of the most fragmented city in the U.S.

You guys should read up on the wonder of a person that is Chris Larson. ::)

I know him; I'm just saying MKE politics suck.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 19, 2018, 11:40:36 AM
You know, someone who I haven't seen many people talk about is this Mandela Barnes guy who's running for Lieutenant Governor. He's a former State Rep who got his seat from primarying the incumbent, and unsuccessfully attempted to primary a State Senate incumbent in 2016. He's young(only 31), African-American, and he has a good quality Twitter profile (https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela)(which I guess = charisma, or something).

Provided he wins the primary, I can see him become a rising star at some point the future. Thoughts, anyone?

http://www.mandelabarnes.com/

He's a Chris Larson crony, glad he lost!

the MKE County Dem Party is the most fragmented dumpster fire of a party in the state. Larson v Abele is a giant waste of time, and I hate all of them.

Kinda fits the bill of the most fragmented city in the U.S.

You guys should read up on the wonder of a person that is Chris Larson. ::)

Oh, I know Chris. He was my Senator when I lived in Oak Creek. He's a turd. I much prefer a similarly flawed Chris Abele. Honestly, the only MKE Dems I genuinely like as people are David Crowley and Gwen Moore.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 19, 2018, 04:48:25 PM
Anyone care to fill me on the horrors of Chris Larson?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Nhoj on March 20, 2018, 02:47:33 AM
State Senator Terry Moulton (R-23: Chippewa Falls) is not seeking reelection (http://tp://www.nbc15.com/content/news/GOP-state-senator-wont-seek-re-election-477265123.html)

If the wave is as big as some of the special elections in the state have hinted at, this could flip.

District Map (http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/gisdocs/SenateMaps/Sen_23_Poster_Map.pdf)

kathy bernier is already running for the republicans. Her assembly district should be even more flipable, of course that wont do much to cut into the R margin in the assembly.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: MasterJedi on March 20, 2018, 09:16:19 AM
Anyone care to fill me on the horrors of Chris Larson?

The two big ones I can remember were when he pushed and got a white candidate from the suburbs to represent a very heavy black majority district into office because the white area voted much more heavily in the primary. She was his handpicked person.

Also orchestrated Mandela Barnes rise and tried to do the same with knocking out Lena Taylor.

He also voted for the rebuild of the Estabrook damn even though taking it down would be the environmentally and fiscally better option. Support was for the few rich people along the man made lake a little upstream in the burbs.

There is a lot more that I can't remember but he wants to be King Larson while playing the people's progressive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 20, 2018, 11:31:06 AM
Anyone care to fill me on the horrors of Chris Larson?

The two big ones I can remember were when he pushed and got a white candidate from the suburbs to represent a very heavy black majority district into office because the white area voted much more heavily in the primary. She was his handpicked person.

Also orchestrated Mandela Barnes rise and tried to do the same with knocking out Lena Taylor.

He also voted for the rebuild of the Estabrook damn even though taking it down would be the environmentally and fiscally better option. Support was for the few rich people along the man made lake a little upstream in the burbs.

There is a lot more that I can't remember but he wants to be King Larson while playing the people's progressive.

To be fair, Sandy Pasch was already in the Assembly, and she was redistricted into a new district with more of MKE proper. When the incumbent AA Dem in that district didn't run for reelection (She was running for Senate, and lost that primary), Pasch did and held the seat, for one term. This is the problem with MKE dems. There are 5-6 coalitions that hate each other for stupid reasons and the groups often randomly line up in short term alliances that fall apart when one person is offended.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: MasterJedi on March 22, 2018, 01:00:49 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-judge-considering-forcing-walker-to-call-elections/2018/03/22/657079ac-2ddd-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-judge-considering-forcing-walker-to-call-elections/2018/03/22/657079ac-2ddd-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html)

Major blow to Walker, Judge orders him to call special elections.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: mcmikk on March 22, 2018, 04:48:20 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-judge-considering-forcing-walker-to-call-elections/2018/03/22/657079ac-2ddd-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-judge-considering-forcing-walker-to-call-elections/2018/03/22/657079ac-2ddd-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html)

Major blow to Walker, Judge orders him to call special elections.

LOL. So satisfying to finally see Slimy Scott's blatant power grabs go down in flames. I hope we actually win these ones.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: Gass3268 on March 27, 2018, 04:25:35 PM


Means that Governor Walker is going to have to call elections or be held contempt. It also means that if the special session law is passed, he will then have to cancel the elections he called.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: junior chįmp on March 27, 2018, 04:26:34 PM


Means that Governor Walker is going to have to call elections or be held contempt. It also means that if the special session law is passed, he will then have to cancel the elections he called.

Godamn I can't wait to see Scott Walker lose


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Almost all Dem Gov candidates support weed legalization
Post by: kph14 on March 27, 2018, 05:14:58 PM


Means that Governor Walker is going to have to call elections or be held contempt. It also means that if the special session law is passed, he will then have to cancel the elections he called.

Can the special election law be ex post facto?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 09:38:21 AM
The generally conservative Wisconsin State Journal endorses Rebecca Dallet. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/editorial/endorsement-rebecca-dallet-is-more-experienced-and-independent-deserves-election/article_97d4b2ea-a909-58b4-9739-754f90ce4d87.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on March 28, 2018, 10:18:29 AM
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/scott-walker-appealing-dane-county-judges-decisions-in-special-elections/article_1e861284-f2da-550b-8947-8b24b447eddd.html

Walker is appealing


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: KingSweden on March 28, 2018, 10:48:36 AM
The generally conservative Wisconsin State Journal endorses Rebecca Dallet. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/editorial/endorsement-rebecca-dallet-is-more-experienced-and-independent-deserves-election/article_97d4b2ea-a909-58b4-9739-754f90ce4d87.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)

Nice


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 28, 2018, 10:58:12 AM
The generally conservative Wisconsin State Journal endorses Rebecca Dallet. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/editorial/endorsement-rebecca-dallet-is-more-experienced-and-independent-deserves-election/article_97d4b2ea-a909-58b4-9739-754f90ce4d87.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)

Nice

He's going to lose again, they can't hold it for a hypothetical bill passing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 10:58:55 AM
The generally conservative Wisconsin State Journal endorses Rebecca Dallet. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/editorial/endorsement-rebecca-dallet-is-more-experienced-and-independent-deserves-election/article_97d4b2ea-a909-58b4-9739-754f90ce4d87.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)

Nice

He's going to lose again, they can't hold it for a hypothetical bill passing.

He really doesn't want the attack ads this fall of canceling an election that was already called.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 28, 2018, 11:17:34 AM
The generally conservative Wisconsin State Journal endorses Rebecca Dallet. (http://host.madison.com/wsj/opinion/editorial/endorsement-rebecca-dallet-is-more-experienced-and-independent-deserves-election/article_97d4b2ea-a909-58b4-9739-754f90ce4d87.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)

Nice

He's going to lose again, they can't hold it for a hypothetical bill passing.

He really doesn't want the attack ads this fall of canceling an election that was already called.



You have to wonder if Republicans are thinking they will be in power forever. They probably think they will be, then when it turns they will go agro about all the changes they made.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: windjammer on March 28, 2018, 01:00:50 PM
Can WI democrats flip WI House and WI senate?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 28, 2018, 01:04:20 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: YE on March 28, 2018, 01:06:31 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.

Totally ignoring Supreme court/special results I see.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 01:09:36 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.

The Driftless area is very swingy and they didn't crater there.

Senate is probably Lean R, Assembly is probably Likely R, but closer to Safe.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 28, 2018, 01:10:50 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.

Totally ignoring Supreme court/special results I see.
A "quasi-nonpartisan" Supreme Court race and local races don't change the fact that Walker's approval actually took a bounce early this year and as much as people hate him, they're not that motivated to turn him away. (Remember the stupidity that was the recall?)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 28, 2018, 01:57:37 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.

The Driftless area is very swingy and they didn't crater there.

Senate is probably Lean R, Assembly is probably Likely R, but closer to Safe.


This. Ignore the TX hack.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: redjohn on March 28, 2018, 02:08:09 PM
Severely unlikely, as they are packed in Dane County and Milwaukee, and seem to have cratered in the Driftless Area due to Clintonian/Sunbelt Billionaire identity politics.

Totally ignoring Supreme court/special results I see.
A "quasi-nonpartisan" Supreme Court race and local races don't change the fact that Walker's approval actually took a bounce early this year and as much as people hate him, they're not that motivated to turn him away. (Remember the stupidity that was the recall?)

To the contrary, the results of next Tuesday's Supreme Court race will tell us quite a bit about how the Wisconsin electorate is feeling. If Dallet wins (which she likely will), the margin will be telling, as well as whether turnout is still depressed in critical parts of the state. Driftless area can flip much quicker than some would expect. Will it be enough to flip either chamber this fall? We'll see. But don't write it off; it is possible (even if currently unlikely).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Virginiá on March 28, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
A "quasi-nonpartisan" Supreme Court race and local races don't change the fact that Walker's approval actually took a bounce early this year and as much as people hate him, they're not that motivated to turn him away. (Remember the stupidity that was the recall?)

A caveat being that his elections mostly took place under a Democratic president whose popularity was middling at best and comfortably unpopular at worst. Who is president at the time of these elections does in fact matter, even for gubernatorial elections. It's why Republicans won almost 1,000 legislative seats under Obama, and gained Govs offices in each midterm. It's why they so easily held the House for 6+ years and flipped the Senate to great effect in 2014. Walker has never seemed like a particularly overpowering candidate. He won comfortably - in two waves and a recall in 2012 (June, not November), but never blew his opponent out of the water. So what happens if November is as bad for Republicans as it was for Democrats in, say, 2010 or 2014?

My point being that I think maybe you aren't addressing the orange elephant in the room - a presidential elephant that is always in the room for every partisan (and sometimes even non-partisan) election this country has. 2018's Wisconsin gubernatorial election will not be based entirely on candidate quality, for better or worse.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 02:14:02 PM
Walker gets slapped down again:





Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 28, 2018, 02:31:40 PM
Walker gets slapped down again:





When will the assembly vote on the law that will overturn this decision?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 02:34:46 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 02:35:51 PM
Walker gets slapped down again:





When will the assembly vote on the law that will overturn this decision?

Not sure on the exact date, but it will be after the date the court set as a deadline.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 02:37:35 PM
If the Supreme Court rules for Walker, I'd expect this to be the biggest issue going into Tuesday's Supreme Court race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GlobeSoc on March 28, 2018, 02:42:20 PM
If the Supreme Court rules for Walker, I'd expect this to be the biggest issue going into Tuesday's Supreme Court race.

This is why I doubt that they'll rule for Walker - it would destroy Screnrock's chances a week out from the election. I severely doubt that the conservatives on the court bench are that dumb.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Ebsy on March 28, 2018, 03:23:07 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GlobeSoc on March 28, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

Paid for by the DGA


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 28, 2018, 03:25:24 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GlobeSoc on March 28, 2018, 03:40:11 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.

:O I somehow didn't expect that, even though they are corrupt billionaires to the core.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: KingSweden on March 28, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.

No as in “no more special elections” or “no more money for you”?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 28, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.

No as in “no more special elections” or “no more money for you”?

I would have to verify with the bill but I think it was to stop all special elections as being a waste of money and "against the voice of the people". ::)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Virginiá on March 28, 2018, 03:55:52 PM
I do recall seeing it mentioned that Walker/Republicans do want to risk Democrats reducing their majorities any further in case SCOTUS forces them to redraw their maps. They want as many seats as possible when/if that comes, in case anyone bucks leadership. I can't recall if that was an opinion or heard as actual reasoning from one or more Republican legislators.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Anna Komnene on March 28, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
Please change it to "Denies." It's making me twitch.  :-@


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 28, 2018, 05:21:20 PM
Please change it to "Denies." It's making me twitch.  :-@


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 28, 2018, 05:23:54 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Sestak on March 28, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
Who's Denys?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on March 28, 2018, 05:32:03 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.

No as in “no more special elections” or “no more money for you”?

I would have to verify with the bill but I think it was to stop all special elections as being a waste of money and "against the voice of the people". ::)

Elections are now against the voice of the people?  We're reaching new levels of doublethink.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: junior chįmp on March 28, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
Scott Walker's tears are my energy drink


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: KingSweden on March 28, 2018, 05:55:42 PM
Why can't Scott Walker obey the law?

The news even said he's scared of Democrats winning after the last special election and the Koch brothers told him no.

No as in “no more special elections” or “no more money for you”?

I would have to verify with the bill but I think it was to stop all special elections as being a waste of money and "against the voice of the people". ::)

There are a variety of special election laws around the country, and I’m ambivalent about which model is Best. That being said, what WI was up to was very capricious.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: redjohn on March 28, 2018, 06:04:01 PM
God, Walker is such a shameless hack. Hoping for a big Dallet victory next week to send him running scared.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 28, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
Miles made maps for the two special elections:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on March 28, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Miles made maps for the two special elections:

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So these districts are definitely winnable by Democrats who actually campaign @Hillary


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GlobeSoc on March 28, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
I'd say both elections are tossups based on those stats. The senate race is tilt R, however, and if I feel bold I might say the house race is tilt D.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: junior chįmp on March 28, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Scott Walker calls for special election June 12 after denied request to delay election

https://www.wtmj.com/news/court-refuses-walker-request-to-delay-special-election-order


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: GlobeSoc on March 28, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
Scott Walker calls for special election June 12 after denied request to delay election

https://www.wtmj.com/news/court-refuses-walker-request-to-delay-special-election-order

:)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: mcmikk on March 28, 2018, 11:38:39 PM
Every WI Dem needs to start calling him #SlimyScott. It fits him perfectly and it's catchy!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: windjammer on March 29, 2018, 05:43:08 AM
Gass, Masterjedi and Arch,
Is this winnable?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 29, 2018, 07:41:24 AM

I'm not the best with what's going on outstate so I'll leave that to the others.

As for me I'm just surprised Walker didn't try and go to the SC but knowing some of the members they probably told him it would be a bad idea.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 29, 2018, 07:47:42 AM

AD-42 is definitely more likely than SD-01; but with the Democrats seeing an almost 20 point swing in the last set of special elections, anything is possible.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Dr. Arch on March 29, 2018, 08:20:26 AM

Both of those are, especially given how Democrats picked up a seat in the deepest R parts of central western WI. The Door county seat seems like an easy pickup given the precedent so far.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 29, 2018, 09:21:44 AM

Both of those are, especially given how Democrats picked up a seat in the deepest R parts of central western WI. The Door county seat seems like an easy pickup given the precedent so far.

Population wise Door County only makes up like 1/6 of this district. Most of the population is in the southern part of the district. The Democrat will need to overperform in the cities and villages in the south such as Kimberly, Two Rivers, Little Chute, and the portion of Appleton that's in this district, in addition to Door County. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: mcmikk on March 29, 2018, 09:59:14 AM

Ouch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Ebsy on March 29, 2018, 10:07:20 AM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 29, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
Meet Caleb Frostman, Democratic candidate for SD-01 (https://www.calebfrostman.com/about-1/)

Quote
Caleb grew up in Green Bay and graduated from the UW-Madison Business School before pursuing a career in commercial real estate finance. He was thrilled to bring that experience home to northeast Wisconsin as the Door County Economic Development Corporation’s Executive Director.

Frostman sits on the Bay Area Workforce Development Board and serves on the boards of the Door County Visitor Bureau, Sturgeon Bay Visitor Center, Sunshine House, an organization that serves adults with disabilities, and the Advisory Council of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Door County. After college, he served as a Big Brother to the same Little for more than five years.

Frostman has been a passionate outdoorsman since childhood, including hunting deer, turkeys, waterfowl and bear. He fondly refers to hunting as “the most significant piece of my identity, just ahead of being a Green Bay Packers fan.”

()


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 29, 2018, 10:14:02 AM
Meet Caleb Frostman, Democratic candidate for SD-01 (https://www.calebfrostman.com/about-1/)

Quote
Caleb grew up in Green Bay and graduated from the UW-Madison Business School before pursuing a career in commercial real estate finance. He was thrilled to bring that experience home to northeast Wisconsin as the Door County Economic Development Corporation’s Executive Director.

Frostman sits on the Bay Area Workforce Development Board and serves on the boards of the Door County Visitor Bureau, Sturgeon Bay Visitor Center, Sunshine House, an organization that serves adults with disabilities, and the Advisory Council of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Door County. After college, he served as a Big Brother to the same Little for more than five years.

Frostman has been a passionate outdoorsman since childhood, including hunting deer, turkeys, waterfowl and bear. He fondly refers to hunting as “the most significant piece of my identity, just ahead of being a Green Bay Packers fan.”

()

Hope he does well. I want to see more of his types running everywhere in the Midwest, and less bland Ossoff clones.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: MasterJedi on March 29, 2018, 10:15:39 AM


They realized how bad this would hurt them if they kept pushing it. At least they're learning something in the era of Trump. They can't rely on blaming Obama to win votes anymore.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Gass3268 on March 29, 2018, 10:55:36 AM
Walker is having a hissy fit on twitter:











Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Doimper on March 29, 2018, 10:56:53 AM
What a loser.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Virginiá on March 29, 2018, 11:01:46 AM
I just love it when Republican politicians publicly speak out against Democratic efforts to fight Republican gerrymanders as some sinister scheme to rig the system in their favor.

They could just say nothing and not look like hypocrites. But nope, they have to chime in on everything, even their own corruption, and try to spit-shine it so they can act like they are honest and fair.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denys Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: mcmikk on March 29, 2018, 11:03:46 AM
Scott Walker's tears are my energy drink


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on March 29, 2018, 11:08:59 AM
This isn't going to motivate a demotivated base to come out and vote. Could even make them think it won't happen and they stay home.

But trying to use the "evil correct DC liberals" likely isn't going to help either.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: windjammer on March 29, 2018, 11:20:26 AM
Btw,
Who is the favorite for the WI Supreme Court election?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Ebsy on March 29, 2018, 11:20:54 AM
Btw,
Who is the favorite for the WI Supreme Court election?
Probably Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 29, 2018, 11:27:53 AM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on March 29, 2018, 11:29:31 AM
Walker is having a hissy fit on twitter:










Looks like someone is banking his reelection on this.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on March 29, 2018, 11:31:51 AM

With the large amounts of money the GOP is pumping into this race late, I would agree.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Wiz in Wis on March 29, 2018, 11:32:04 AM
Charles Franklin at Marquette suggests both of these races are at least as winnable as SD 10, with HD 42 probably more winnable

https://twitter.com/PollsAndVotes/status/979203446573293568


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: windjammer on March 29, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
And the other WI posters!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 29, 2018, 12:35:53 PM
Scott Walker didn't have a problem when Kansas-based Koch special interest groups pumped a boatload of money to elect his sorry ass governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: libertpaulian on March 29, 2018, 12:48:29 PM
Meet Caleb Frostman, Democratic candidate for SD-01 (https://www.calebfrostman.com/about-1/)

Quote
Caleb grew up in Green Bay and graduated from the UW-Madison Business School before pursuing a career in commercial real estate finance. He was thrilled to bring that experience home to northeast Wisconsin as the Door County Economic Development Corporation’s Executive Director.

Frostman sits on the Bay Area Workforce Development Board and serves on the boards of the Door County Visitor Bureau, Sturgeon Bay Visitor Center, Sunshine House, an organization that serves adults with disabilities, and the Advisory Council of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Door County. After college, he served as a Big Brother to the same Little for more than five years.

Frostman has been a passionate outdoorsman since childhood, including hunting deer, turkeys, waterfowl and bear. He fondly refers to hunting as “the most significant piece of my identity, just ahead of being a Green Bay Packers fan.”

()

Hope he does well. I want to see more of his types running everywhere in the Midwest, and less bland Ossoff clones.
If he evades gun control completely, he should have this in the bag.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Court Denies Extension To Call Special Elections
Post by: libertpaulian on March 29, 2018, 01:04:16 PM
Meet Caleb Frostman, Democratic candidate for SD-01 (https://www.calebfrostman.com/about-1/)

Quote
Caleb grew up in Green Bay and graduated from the UW-Madison Business School before pursuing a career in commercial real estate finance. He was thrilled to bring that experience home to northeast Wisconsin as the Door County Economic Development Corporation’s Executive Director.

Frostman sits on the Bay Area Workforce Development Board and serves on the boards of the Door County Visitor Bureau, Sturgeon Bay Visitor Center, Sunshine House, an organization that serves adults with disabilities, and the Advisory Council of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Door County. After college, he served as a Big Brother to the same Little for more than five years.

Frostman has been a passionate outdoorsman since childhood, including hunting deer, turkeys, waterfowl and bear. He fondly refers to hunting as “the most significant piece of my identity, just ahead of being a Green Bay Packers fan.”

()

Hope he does well. I want to see more of his types running everywhere in the Midwest, and less bland Ossoff clones.
If he evades gun control completely, he should have this in the bag.


Definitely has the extensive community connections that Patty Schactner seemed to have, that’s for sure
Plus, he's kinda hot...not that it should matter in politics, of course, but it's a nice side benefit. :D


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on March 29, 2018, 02:35:16 PM
Wisconsin Family Asks Screnock Ad to be taken down, re-victimizes family. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/29/family-calls-top-business-group-take-down-ad-statstate-supreme-court-tv-ad-outrages-family-sexual/469787002/)

One more reason to not vote for that piece of crap


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on March 31, 2018, 11:18:08 PM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 01, 2018, 12:00:42 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):



It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: mcmikk on April 01, 2018, 12:04:39 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):



It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yeah. The last non-Presidential primary record was set in 2017, when Evers spanked his opponent in a 70-30 landslide, lol.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 01, 2018, 12:52:23 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):



It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yet there is also this tidbit from "crucial" Waukesha County:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 01, 2018, 12:59:56 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):



It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yet there is also this tidbit from "crucial" Waukesha County:



Waukesha isn't crucial. We know what it's going to do. Western WI is.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 01, 2018, 01:04:48 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):

https://twitter.com/MadisonWIClerk/status/980203325093269504

It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yet there is also this tidbit from "crucial" Waukesha County:

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/979485042194898944

Waukesha isn't crucial. We know what it's going to do. Western WI is.

You don't know the "crucial" Waukesha County joke?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 01, 2018, 01:20:22 AM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):

https://twitter.com/MadisonWIClerk/status/980203325093269504

It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yet there is also this tidbit from "crucial" Waukesha County:

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/979485042194898944

Waukesha isn't crucial. We know what it's going to do. Western WI is.

You don't know the "crucial" Waukesha County joke?

Apparently not LOL


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: henster on April 01, 2018, 01:22:09 AM
Wisconsin Family Asks Screnock Ad to be taken down, re-victimizes family. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/29/family-calls-top-business-group-take-down-ad-statstate-supreme-court-tv-ad-outrages-family-sexual/469787002/)

One more reason to not vote for that piece of crap

Judicial elections are the worst, always with the X candidate loves child molesters/murders etc. It sucks how few people understand the legal system at all.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 02, 2018, 12:04:14 PM
Madison is jacked for the Supreme Court race on Tuesday (yes I know this means almost nothing):

https://twitter.com/MadisonWIClerk/status/980203325093269504

It's a big deal actually. That kind of turnout from Dane will crush Screnock.

Yet there is also this tidbit from "crucial" Waukesha County:

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/979485042194898944

Waukesha isn't crucial. We know what it's going to do. Western WI is.

You don't know the "crucial" Waukesha County joke?

Apparently not LOL

Quote
3. "Crucial" Waukesha county

Slate's Dave Weigel, one of the main perpetrators of this joke about an obscure county in Wisconsin, explains its origins:

In 2011, Democrats thought they had won the state Supreme Court race in WI — the first election since the big union-busting bill. The next day, an uncounted cache of votes from Waukesha County switched the result and the Republican won. Months later, the exact same thing happened in a State Senate race, so they went from thinking they'd won the Senate to not winning it.

In the end, Morsi couldn't make up for his lack of support in crucial Waukesha County. — daveweigel (@daveweigel) July 3, 2013

Looking tight on this House vote. Going to come down to crucial Waukesha County. — daveweigel (@daveweigel) January 2, 2013

Could help in crucial Waukesha County. RT @ryanavent: The Economist endorses Barack Obama: http://t.co/m3vUXFd0— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 1, 2012

17 Jokes That All Political Reporters And Junkies Love To Make On Twitter (http://www.businessinsider.com/political-reporter-twitter-jokes-2013-7)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 02, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
scott walktard tears taste like pancakes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:20:16 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.

Yeah, the whole state is gonna be buried in it. I'm voting in an hour though. :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:21:18 AM
Hope it snows 2 feet in Waukesha and NE Wisconsin :D


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:22:37 AM
Hope it snows 2 feet in Waukesha and NE Wisconsin :D

It's actually about a foot in NE Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 08:25:38 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.

Yeah, the whole state is gonna be buried in it. I'm voting in an hour though. :)

Lucky, needed to be at work at 7, just needs to hold off until 4:30 and let me get it done lol

Hoping Oak Creek doesn't go stupid full on right though. Whole hoopla over the school board doing its job instead of a referendum to save money by spending money (green/energy savings) and a crazy mayoral candidate who doesn't like the development going on.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 03, 2018, 09:15:28 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.

Yeah, the whole state is gonna be buried in it. I'm voting in an hour though. :)

South of Madison should be relatively unaffected. Not that there is a lot of Wisconsin south of Madison.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 03, 2018, 09:16:57 AM
Was voter 46 at 8 am in Madison Ward 9. Machine projected 2600 votes at that location based on AM turnout.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:30:27 AM
Was voter 46 at 8 am in Madison Ward 9. Machine projected 2600 votes at that location based on AM turnout.

I doubt it lasts or maybe the machine was off, but that projection would put it at amound Presidential level of turnout.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: The Dowager Mod on April 03, 2018, 09:32:06 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.

Yeah, the whole state is gonna be buried in it. I'm voting in an hour though. :)

South of Madison should be relatively unaffected. Not that there is a lot of Wisconsin south of Madison.

Hey now, Janesville is a lovely place.  :p


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 09:37:02 AM
Madison voters energized. Several friends casting their first votes (for Dallet, among others) today.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 09:40:41 AM
Madison is one of the only places where Democrats don't even need to invest in turnout operations in certain elections - a Republican president does all the work for them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Snowstorm already in progress up north, supposed to be double digits up there. Supposed to turn to a mix in SE WI sometime in the afternoon and full on snow at 6 so that will depress this election.

Hoping it holds off on snow until after 4:30 so I can vote and get my ass home.

Yeah, the whole state is gonna be buried in it. I'm voting in an hour though. :)

South of Madison should be relatively unaffected. Not that there is a lot of Wisconsin south of Madison.

Hey now, Janesville is a lovely place.  :p

A lot of locals seem to think it's a gleaming metropolis in the country lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:53:47 AM
Was voter 46 at 8 am in Madison Ward 9. Machine projected 2600 votes at that location based on AM turnout.

I doubt it lasts or maybe the machine was off, but that projection would put it at amound Presidential level of turnout.

Wisconsin, and the entire upper midwest as a whole tends to have higher turnout then the nation in every comparable election. I recall a piece from the 2006 midterm coverage discussing how Minnesota was expecting turnout just below presidential years because of the regions culture and tradition regarding elections.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: henster on April 03, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
Ugh, looks like a snow storm is hitting most of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 10:05:21 AM
Ugh, looks like a snow storm is hitting most of the state.

Generally will hit the north more than the south so deep red central WI will be affected the most.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 10:06:54 AM
Wonder how Milwaukee turnouts/votes today. The liberal-leaning candidates (combined) won with a 26-point margin there in the spring primary; Clinton won Milwaukee County by 37 points. Obviously a completely different electorate, but a big margin in Milwaukee probably hands it to Dallet. If Dallet can win most of the counties that swung to Trump, though, she may not need a Presidential-style margin in Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 10:10:16 AM
Wonder how Milwaukee turnouts/votes today. The liberal-leaning candidates (combined) won with a 26-point margin there in the spring primary; Clinton won Milwaukee County by 37 points. Obviously a completely different electorate, but a big margin in Milwaukee probably hands it to Dallet. If Dallet can win most of the counties that swung to Trump, though, she may not need a Presidential-style margin in Milwaukee.

I'm hoping to see Steve Taylor lose (doubt it) and the Treasury to not be eliminated (doubt it) otherwise it's just my school board that has any meaningful election going on.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:47:20 AM
63 voters at my ward at 9:00AM with a steady stream of people coming in as we left. We were in the 40s at the same time for the primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 10:51:15 AM
63 voters at my ward at 9:00AM with a steady stream of people coming in as we left. We were in the 40s at the same time for the primary.

Where are you in the state?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:57:09 AM
63 voters at my ward at 9:00AM with a steady stream of people coming in as we left. We were in the 40s at the same time for the primary.

Where are you in the state?

Madison, in the urban area, so turnout is up and up in Dane.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 03, 2018, 11:45:39 AM
Was voter 46 at 8 am in Madison Ward 9. Machine projected 2600 votes at that location based on AM turnout.

I doubt it lasts or maybe the machine was off, but that projection would put it at amound Presidential level of turnout.

Yeah, in hindsight, that seems really optimistic.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: KingSweden on April 03, 2018, 12:18:03 PM
Don’t see how Screnock wins this. Dallet by 6-8 IMO.

Let’s not overread early turnout reports...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 12:18:23 PM






Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
↑ Big turnout uptick as expected. Also, it hasn't started snowing yet in Dane and several co-workers already told me they're planning to vote after work, so expect that to keep going up relative to the whole state--especially up Nort.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 12:22:53 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 12:23:49 PM


So, Dane absentees alone are overwhelming the entirety of Waukesha.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 12:25:36 PM


So, Dane absentees alone are overwhelming the entirety of Waukesha.

I think they are both absentees.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 12:27:45 PM


So, Dane absentees alone are overwhelming the entirety of Waukesha.

I think they are both absentees.

That's not what it says. He makes the distinction in the Dane numbers, but not the Waukesha ones. This is why Twitter sucks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 12:45:44 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 12:56:30 PM



Blue wave imminent.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 01:01:59 PM
Cautiously optimistic...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 03, 2018, 01:12:09 PM


That's crazy. I wonder if it'll be repeated elsewhere. FTR, I already voted in Madison and it was brisk. Didn't feel quite presidential, but comparable to a mid-term.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
I'd wait and see. Never underestimate Waukesha's ability to pull votes out of its ass to save a Republican.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Koharu on April 03, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
I voted around 1 PM here in Verona, and my ballot was the 783rd one read by the scanner today, so it's looking like good turn-out in my part of Dane county. Really looking forward to the results of today's elections.

Doing a quick compare to the 2016 numbers in the presidential election, things are looking good, turnout-wise. So, uh. I think Dane county is a bit riled. I'm really looking forward to turnout numbers from today.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 01:38:39 PM
I'd wait and see. Never underestimate Waukesha's ability to pull votes out of its ass to save a Republican.

Oh, I imagine they are equally excited.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 01:47:38 PM
Washington County has already passed last year's Spring election turnout:





Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 01:54:44 PM
Milwaukee County turnout looks better than normal, but not to the crazy Dane or WOW county highs:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 01:57:46 PM
Not bad if even MKE is performing well. Signs look promising.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 02:00:36 PM
Washington County has already passed last year's Spring election turnout:





Good for Screnock. Milwaukee reports are good for Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 02:22:10 PM
↑ Even with all those turnout reports in WOW, Dane is still off the charts.

Anything from Western WI?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 02:53:30 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: rob in cal on April 03, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
   Got in some trading for Dallet at 70% chance to win.  Gotta think its more than that. Now closer to 80% at predict it.  Outside of Ossof's loss my usual winning strategy is bet for the Dem (or Dem backed candidate in this case) to win, unless odds are too strong.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 03:26:00 PM
No snow in Dane so far. Just drizzles and very light rain. The weather is cooperating.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on April 03, 2018, 03:26:11 PM


That's good and all, but isn't turnout high in WoW as well?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 03:38:06 PM
No snow in Dane so far. Just drizzles and very light rain. The weather is cooperating.

No snow in the Milwaukee area yet either. So while that helps WOW hopefully it dents the deep red north/central part of the state that has been getting hit all day.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 03:39:58 PM


That's good and all, but isn't turnout high in WoW as well?

Based on the tea leaves we've gotten, yes. However, Milwaukee County is up as well and we really have no idea about the rest of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 03:53:20 PM


Clinton +4 county.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
It doesn't matter what's going on with Dane. As history has shown, it's all in the immense margins the conservatives have in WoW. Trump isn't on the ballot and they will go back to their landslide support for the GOP.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
It doesn't matter what's going on with Dane. As history has shown, it's all in the immense margins the conservatives have in WoW. Trump isn't on the ballot and they will go back to their landslide support for the GOP.

loool. Literally the second-most populous county in the state, and it "doesn't matter." Okay, bye.

Turnout in just the City of Madison is at 27% as of 4PM. Big wave of after-work voting coming in soon.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 04:46:44 PM


Doesn't look like Dane's reaching 50, or even getting near.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 05:01:32 PM


Doesn't look like Dane's reaching 50, or even getting near.
Idk if that is enough context considering that could just be election day votes and not include absentees.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 05:40:43 PM


Doesn't look like Dane's reaching 50, or even getting near.
Idk if that is enough context considering that could just be election day votes and not include absentees.

Most people vote after work. Let's see.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 05:58:58 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 06:00:05 PM
I’m Oak Creek was 482 at about 5:15, another 15 people in the room or streaming in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Progressive on April 03, 2018, 06:03:09 PM
Results pages?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 06:11:50 PM

I think Wulfric posted one in another thread, but I really want a results page with maps.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 06:16:46 PM

I think Wulfric posted one in another thread, but I really want a results page with maps.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had a map for the primary. Also I think Wisconsin PBS did too.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 06:21:36 PM

I think Wulfric posted one in another thread, but I really want a results page with maps.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had a map for the primary. Also I think Wisconsin PBS did too.

Wisconsin PBS is the one Wulfric posted, and there's no map to be seen there yet. I can't find anything in the MKE JS.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 06:23:09 PM

I think Wulfric posted one in another thread, but I really want a results page with maps.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had a map for the primary. Also I think Wisconsin PBS did too.

Wisconsin PBS is the one Wulfric posted, and there's no map to be seen there yet. I can't find anything in the MKE JS.

I don't think they'll pop up until after polls close.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on April 03, 2018, 06:28:51 PM
When do polls close?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on April 03, 2018, 06:30:37 PM

8PM CDT


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 03, 2018, 06:44:10 PM
I wonder if the looming trade war will cause Screnrock to fall a bit versus his primary numbers in agricultural areas of Wisconsin, particularly in the north.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Special Elections Will Be Held on June 12
Post by: mcmikk on April 03, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
Don’t see how Screnock wins this. Dallet by 6-8 IMO.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: TheSaint250 on April 03, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
Which candidate is the Democrat and which is the Republican (or, if this is non-partisan, the equivalents)?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on April 03, 2018, 07:04:19 PM
Which candidate is the Democrat and which is the Republican (or, if this is non-partisan, the equivalents)?

Dallet is the D-favored candidate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: TheSaint250 on April 03, 2018, 07:05:05 PM
Which candidate is the Democrat and which is the Republican (or, if this is non-partisan, the equivalents)?

Dallet is the D-favored candidate.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 07:09:36 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 07:13:43 PM
Cautiously optimistic.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 07:15:08 PM


Always dubious about stuff like this, but hope it holds up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 07:20:08 PM


Always dubious about stuff like this, but hope it holds up.

This is a Wisconsin State Journal reporter, not some random person on twitter.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 07:34:28 PM


Ouch for Screnock, that may be it. Let's see what happens.

Update: Map is up https://www.wisconsinvote.org/election-results


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
Polls closed in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on April 03, 2018, 08:10:06 PM
LET the show begin!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: KingSweden on April 03, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
My body is ready


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 03, 2018, 08:11:56 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:12:19 PM

Mine is not. I get sick at the thought of local elections here. We've lost everything for years now, barring Evers, pretty much.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:13:03 PM
DDHQ has results out of Milwaukee County:

Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)     71.3%   5,868
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     28.7%   2,357

15% of the vote there


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: _ on April 03, 2018, 08:13:37 PM
Snow in Milwaukee, it's over for Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:14:22 PM
DDHQ has results out of Milwaukee County:

Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)     71.3%   5,868
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     28.7%   2,357

15% of the vote there


71% in MKE? If that holds, this is a landslide.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
DDHQ has Screnock only up by 30% in Waukesha County with 38% in. Also has Dallet up in Kenosha and Winnebago counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:15:45 PM
Now up to 73% in MKE


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:16:42 PM
Link to those results? Nothing is coming in yet in WI Vote.

Edit: It's starting to come in. Whoa.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
Link to those results? Nothing is coming in yet in WI Vote.

Edit: It's starting to come in. Whoa.

DDHQ does a better job at getting voting reports.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:17:50 PM
DDHQ has results out of Milwaukee County:

Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)     71.3%   5,868
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     28.7%   2,357

15% of the vote there


71% in MKE? If that holds, this is a landslide.

Election results site now has this as well. 71 out of 479 precincts.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:18:31 PM
Almost all of Waukesha county in: http://electionresults.waukeshacounty.gov/contests.aspx

Screnock leading 65-35 and netting 20,000 votes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 03, 2018, 08:18:35 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Remember, this is a nonpartisan election, Dallet would have to win by 10% for this to mean anything regarding November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
Almost all of Waukesha county in: http://electionresults.waukeshacounty.gov/contests.aspx

Screnock leading 65-35 and netting 20,000 votes.

That's not enough for Screnock.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:19:26 PM
Waukesha County (from their county site)

Michael Screnock   44,059   64.8%   
 
Rebecca Dallet   23,917   35.2%   
 
Write-in   46   0.1%   

76.3% reporting

That's a really weak margin for Screnock


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
Screnock is not getting what he needs in Waukesha. Hard to see how he wins.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 08:19:58 PM
Almost all of Waukesha county in: http://electionresults.waukeshacounty.gov/contests.aspx

Screnock leading 65-35 and netting 20,000 votes.
Improving on Trump's margin by 4.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on April 03, 2018, 08:20:17 PM
My 3 point win guess for Dallet is starting to look right.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
Remember, this is a nonpartisan election, Dallet would have to win by 10% for this to mean anything regarding November.

Remember, it's non-partisan in name only, it's very partisan and political so it means something. You can choose to believe it if you want or not though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:20:36 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:21:01 PM
Dallet is winning multiple wards/precincts in Waukesha County. Hillary won a few, but Obama won none in 2012.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:21:06 PM
Screnock doing worse in Waukesha than he did in the primary, where he lost by a decent margin with the liberal candidates combined.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.
Brutal numbers. She's only replicating Hillary here. Not good news.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Brittain33 on April 03, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.

Literally none of that vote is from Madison.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:22:22 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.

Literally none of that vote is from Madison.

Yep, this is looking good for Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on April 03, 2018, 08:22:41 PM
Dallet is winning multiple wards/precincts in Waukesha County. Hillary won a few, but Obama won none in 2012.
Presumably within the city of Waukesha itself?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.
Brutal numbers. She's only replicating Hillary here. Not good news.

This is almost all from the townships, including some of the more conservative (conservative in a Dane County sense) ones.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:23:40 PM
Screnock by 1 so far, with almost all of Waukesha in and nothing from Dane.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:23:48 PM
Current main site numbers

121/193 Waukesha 34365 to 18489 Scre
231/479 Milwaulkee 29526 to 12966 Dall
101/121 Kenosha 8021 to 6252 Dall
Rock early vote 1098 to 932 Dall


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 08:24:01 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.

It was raining in Madison today.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:24:16 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.

Literally none of that vote is from Madison.
Yep, this is looking good for Dallet.
Now up to 77% for Dallet with 33% reporting



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Brittain33 on April 03, 2018, 08:26:12 PM
Candidate   Percent   Votes
Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)     55.9%   152,025
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     44.1%   119,697
861 of 3880 (22%) Precincts Reporting, 271,722 Total Votes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:26:28 PM
Looking excellent for Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 03, 2018, 08:26:30 PM
Uh-oh. Dallet only leading 71-29 in Dane County: https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx

only 8% in. But I'm not sure that's a good enough margin for her.
Brutal numbers. She's only replicating Hillary here. Not good news.

If you're so sure of yourself, you can make a sh**tload of money on PredictIt.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:27:46 PM
Current main site numbers

121/193 Waukesha 34365 to 18489 Scre
231/479 Milwaulkee 29526 to 12966 Dall
101/121 Kenosha 8021 to 6252 Dall
Rock early vote 1098 to 932 Dall

Update

11/50 Ozaukee 3201 2203 Scre
1/51 Dodge 7006 to 5074 Scre
158/193 now in Waukesha 44059 to 23917 Scre


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 08:28:27 PM
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Current map yellow orange is Dallet, purple is Screnock


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:28:43 PM
With only 17% reporting, the power-grabbing referendum to eliminate the State Treasurer is failing 60-40.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:29:06 PM
Screnock is only up by 3% in Jefferson County.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
Looks like we have a landslide on our hands folks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:29:57 PM
Dallet is probably going to win Winnebago County. Almost impossible to see how Screnock wins.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:30:54 PM
Think Dallet wins by 8-10 points.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 03, 2018, 08:31:09 PM
Dallet is probably going to win Winnebago County. Almost impossible to see how Screnock wins.

Wow. Dominating.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 08:31:23 PM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
Wow, Dallet is pummeling Screnock in Dane County now. Pushing 80%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:32:39 PM

That looks pretty bad for Dallet in Western Wisconsin. But I think Dane county will overpower that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:32:44 PM
Wow, Dallet is pummeling Screnock in Dane County now. Pushing 80%.

Let's say we're not happy. :)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Brittain33 on April 03, 2018, 08:33:21 PM
Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)     55.5%   181,968
Michael Screnock (Koch Enterprises)     44.5%   146,098
1055 of 3880 (27%) Precincts Reporting, 328,066 Total Votes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:33:55 PM

That looks pretty bad for Dallet in Western Wisconsin. But I think Dane county will overpower that.

Please not we have now <200 total votes in each county that isn't southeast, so please check your overconfidence for either canidate in that region, with 1-3 precincts each so far.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 08:34:40 PM
Interested in the swing map compared to the primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Jeppe on April 03, 2018, 08:35:44 PM
Dallet now leading 58.5% to 41.5% statewide, with 31% in. This isn't even close.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 08:36:21 PM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:36:32 PM
Ok, this might actually be a problem. Most of Milwaukee county is in, and Dallet is only leading there 66-34. Moderately worse margin than both Clinton and Obama.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
Really interesting that Screnock is underperforming percentage-wise in a lot of counties that are heavily reporting; many assumed he'd do better in this election because conservatives weren't as motivated to vote in primary with one conservative.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 03, 2018, 08:37:24 PM
Ok, this might actually be a problem. Most of Milwaukee county is in, and Dallet is only leading there 66-34. Moderately worse margin than both Clinton and Obama.

Screnock got 37% there in the primary and still 'lost' by like six points statewide.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:39:11 PM
Ok, this might actually be a problem. Most of Milwaukee county is in, and Dallet is only leading there 66-34. Moderately worse margin than both Clinton and Obama.

Screnock got 37% there in the primary and still 'lost' by like six points statewide.


Don't feed the troll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Atlas Force on April 03, 2018, 08:40:03 PM
Ok, this might actually be a problem. Most of Milwaukee county is in, and Dallet is only leading there 66-34. Moderately worse margin than both Clinton and Obama.

Screnock got 37% there in the primary and still 'lost' by like six points statewide.


Don't feed the troll


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
Guys, I'm not trolling. I literally just posted that Dallet was pummeling Screnock in Dane county. I just was pointing out that she's underperforming in Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 08:40:47 PM
Lipscomb and Taylor down early. :o


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 08:42:21 PM
Get ed Walker


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 03, 2018, 08:43:03 PM
The rural areas are a mess with no rhyme or reason. It will take some significantly more areas reporting to discern significant patterns.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
Decision desk hq calls it for Dallet


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 08:43:16 PM
Guys, I'm not trolling. I literally just posted that Dallet was pummeling Screnock in Dane county. I just was pointing out that she's underperforming in Milwaukee.

I don't know what parts of Milwaukee are in, but bear in mind that it is a heavily segregated city.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 08:43:28 PM
Race got called for Dallet


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on April 03, 2018, 08:44:02 PM
Well she won. So the trolls can go back under their bridges.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:44:59 PM
Well she won. So the trolls can go back under their bridges.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on April 03, 2018, 08:45:04 PM
My mind model says Screnock will win by 30%


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Sestak on April 03, 2018, 08:45:15 PM
Where's the results page?

Also wow. A call in under 45 minutes is... fast.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:45:20 PM
First major statewide win in a LONG time, and it feels great!  :d


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
Guys, I'm not trolling. I literally just posted that Dallet was pummeling Screnock in Dane county. I just was pointing out that she's underperforming in Milwaukee.

I don't know what parts of Milwaukee are in, but bear in mind that it is a heavily segregated city.

Nearly everything, we knew from the 'primary' turnout that the counties minorities don't turnout in this extreme-offyear elections.

Dems, like Dallet tonight will win off 2016/18 cycles via dane rather then Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Scott Walker humiliated.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Senator Incitatus on April 03, 2018, 08:45:51 PM
Not even close. Interested to see the final map/numbers so we can get a sense of what's going on in Wisconsin. Walker is in big trouble is my guess.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Sestak on April 03, 2018, 08:46:35 PM
Lol my joke prediction of Dallet +20 on Discord might actually be not that far off.


Anyone got a results page?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 08:46:43 PM
Lol the GOP is gonna get BTFO'd in Wisconsin

30.9% Precincts Reporting 21:43 PM ET
Party   Name   Votes   Vote %   
NP   
Dallet, Rebecca   
224,771   
57.95 %   
NP   
Screnock, Michael   
163,112   
42.05 %


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
https://decisiondeskhq.com/news/wisconsin-supreme-court-election/

Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)    58.8%   255,191
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     41.2%   179,066


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 03, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
https://decisiondeskhq.com/news/wisconsin-supreme-court-election/

Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)    58.8%   255,191
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     41.2%   179,066


DOMINATING


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Jeppe on April 03, 2018, 08:48:37 PM
With 58% reporting in Dane County, Dallet has a 67k to 17k lead in the county. This is prime #Resistance country.


Results with map
https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:49:00 PM
Lol the GOP is gonna get BTFO'd in Wisconsin

30.9% Precincts Reporting 21:43 PM ET
Party   Name   Votes   Vote %   
NP   
Dallet, Rebecca   
224,771   
57.95 %   
NP   
Screnock, Michael   
163,112   
42.05 %

Ehh it will probably go down, nearly everything out right now is rurals/smalltowns with a bit of Dane and Washington, which will probably be a modest Dallet win since its Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Sestak on April 03, 2018, 08:49:22 PM
What...what are the WI-01 numbers?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 08:50:39 PM
Candidate   Percent   Votes
Rebecca Dallet (Unaffiliated)    56.9%   271,960
Michael Screnock (Unaffiliated)     43.1%   206,086
1465 of 3880 (38%) Precincts Reporting, 478,046 Total Votes


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:50:49 PM
We don't know. Nothing from Wallworth or Racine.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: ON Progressive on April 03, 2018, 08:51:18 PM
Those margins in Winnebago are just ridiculous.

Even Obama in 2008 didn't do that good in Winnebago. He won Winnebago by 11.6%, and Dallet is winning by 13.4% with nearly every precinct in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Koharu on April 03, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Love seeing that it's being called already. Not much in for the local races that I care about yet, so at least I'm getting happy news early on.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 08:52:40 PM
Why are Milwaukee county supervisors unpopular? A few incumbents are in very tight races or losing outright.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 03, 2018, 08:52:57 PM
LMAO. Can't wait to see Walker's next Twitter meltdown.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 08:53:15 PM
Northern Wisconsin going heavily for Dallet, while western WI looks like a dalmatian. What the heck is this?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Beet on April 03, 2018, 08:54:20 PM
Wow, a Democrat actually won statewide in WI. I'm happy for our number of passionate WI avatars who are D supporters!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 08:55:17 PM
where are you finding live results by County?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: john cage bubblegum on April 03, 2018, 08:55:29 PM
Glad to see Dallet coasting to what looks to be a ~10-12 point victory.  Very impressive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
Northern Wisconsin going heavily for Dallet, while western WI looks like a dalmatian. What the heck is this?

Not a ton of precincts out of Western Wisconsin yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 08:55:47 PM
Why are Milwaukee county supervisors unpopular? A few incumbents are in very tight races or losing outright.

Lipscomb while liberal supported repairing that damn dam when it was environmentally and fiscally responsible thing to do to knock it down but he listened to a few wealthy residents in Glendale who would be better off with the damn.

Steve Taylor is just a conservative ass so it's amazing he's down now.

Others not sure, really hoping those two go down though.

Looks like Republicans can't get their power move of removing the treasurer at least.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Jeppe on April 03, 2018, 08:56:09 PM
where are you finding live results by County?

https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on April 03, 2018, 08:56:38 PM
Congrats to the 4 people who picked Dallet by 10+ in the poll.  (And for the 3 people who picked Screnock by 10+: turn in your crystal balls.)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 08:57:04 PM
I want that 80% in Dane County... I want it bad.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 08:57:30 PM
It would be cool if Walworth flipped.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 03, 2018, 08:57:44 PM
Northern Wisconsin going heavily for Dallet, while western WI looks like a dalmatian. What the heck is this?

Not a lot is in from Western WI, I wouldn't extrapolate much from them quite yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 08:57:51 PM
Northern Wisconsin going heavily for Dallet, while western WI looks like a dalmatian. What the heck is this?

Not a ton of precincts out of Western Wisconsin yet.

neither in most north counties either. Only real analysis appears to be doable on the SE and Oshkosh corridor area, where we have most/all precincts in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Atlas Force on April 03, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
Where’s a results page for the referendum to repeal the State Treasurer’s office?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 08:58:48 PM
Dallet at 64% in Eau Claire County with nearly all precincts in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 09:00:44 PM
Where’s a results page for the referendum to repeal the State Treasurer’s office?

36.3% Precincts Reporting 21:55 PM ET
Party   Name   Votes   Vote %   
No   
No,   
280,531   
62 %   
Yes   
Yes,   
171,953   
38


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:01:16 PM
Scre leading 51-49 in Brown (Green Bay) right now, but only 36/112 precincts and 300 vote margin. Probably mostly suburbs. Should flip since the county tends to be in line with its southern neighbors, albeit more to the left.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:02:44 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Koharu on April 03, 2018, 09:03:22 PM
I want that 80% in Dane County... I want it bad.

It's there now at 77% reporting. Let's see if it holds.

Michael Screnock     19.2 %    21641
Rebecca Dallet         80.7 %    91053
WRITE-IN (NON)    0.1 %    119
77.48% of Precincts Reporting (172 of 222)

https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: JGibson on April 03, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Glad to see Dallet win.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: ajc0918 on April 03, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
Scott Presler has called the race for Judge Screnock citing a massive red wave. #ThePersistence


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
AP called it for Dallet


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:05:21 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

Basically the story of the night, and probably most of these special elections/upcoming midterms(?):



Also AP finally calls for Dallet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 03, 2018, 09:05:53 PM
Dominating.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:07:26 PM
Dallet won by hometown (Village of Cottage Grove) with 70% of the vote!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Nyvin on April 03, 2018, 09:07:43 PM
Dallet is winning Dane County 81-19 as of now,  I really hope to see numbers like that in November...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: ON Progressive on April 03, 2018, 09:08:06 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

65-35 is only 1% better than Trump did, so it's not really that strong a margin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on April 03, 2018, 09:08:12 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:09:18 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

65-35 is only 1% better than Trump did, so it's not really that strong a margin.

Trump failed to crack 60%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on April 03, 2018, 09:10:17 PM
The Dane margin is simply orgasmic.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: TheBeardedOne on April 03, 2018, 09:11:57 PM
The seat she’s filling, was it previously held by a Repub or Dem?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Virginiá on April 03, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
The seat she’s filling, was it previously held by a Repub or Dem?

Republican


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 03, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
Lincoln county tho


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:14:41 PM
Dallet won multiple precincts in Ozaukee County: Cedarburg, Mequon, Port Washington, and Thiensville.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on April 03, 2018, 09:15:08 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

65-35 is only 1% better than Trump did, so it's not really that strong a margin.

Trump failed to crack 60%.

Just barely.  He got 59.6%, I believe.  But the thing to remember is that Trump's margins in the WOW counties were not great for a Republican.  It was his strength out west that carried him to victory.  Matching his percentage in WOW won't win it for Republicans unless they also match his (much better) percentages elsewhere.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Minnesota Mike on April 03, 2018, 09:15:25 PM

Even if you eliminated all the Dane county votes Dallet would still be winning.

What is encouraging for Democrats is the rebound in rural areas from the Trump numbers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 09:15:35 PM
Embarrassing result for the Republican machine in Wisconsin.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 03, 2018, 09:17:01 PM
Walker's tweet reaction will be something gold.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on April 03, 2018, 09:17:01 PM
Stupendous news! Walker's Reign of Terror is on its last breaths.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on April 03, 2018, 09:17:08 PM

Even if you eliminated all the Dane county votes Dallet would still be winning.

What is encouraging for Democrats is the rebound in rural areas from the Trump numbers.
Indeed.  I feel much better about rural MN... hopefully their tryst with the GOP is over.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:17:43 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

65-35 is only 1% better than Trump did, so it's not really that strong a margin.

Trump failed to crack 60%.


Just barely.  He got 59.6%, I believe.  But the thing to remember is that Trump's margins in the WOW counties were not great for a Republican.  It was his strength out west that carried him to victory.  Matching his percentage in WOW won't win it for Republicans unless they also match his (much better) percentages elsewhere.

Exactly, Trump had the worst showing in generations in the WOW counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on April 03, 2018, 09:17:58 PM
This is telling:

Quote
Basically Trump acting everywhere as a ceiling but nowhere as a floor.

https://twitter.com/Fyodor32768/status/981352886159527937

This should send cold chills down Republican spines.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: henster on April 03, 2018, 09:18:50 PM
If Dane becomes a 80/20 county consistently then that's huge for them statewide. Still have to do work in western WI but it gives them a lot more breathing room, if turnout disappoints in Milwaukee for say.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:19:10 PM
This is telling:

Quote
Basically Trump acting everywhere as a ceiling but nowhere as a floor.

https://twitter.com/Fyodor32768/status/981352886159527937

This should send cold chills down Republican spines.

Yep!

Also, 60% in Door County is something wild.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:19:32 PM
Walker's power gab to eliminate the State Treasurer is only leading in the WOW Counties + Fond du Lac & Sheboygan.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 09:20:25 PM
Screnock is doing well in Waukesha County, outperforming Trump there.

65-35 is only 1% better than Trump did, so it's not really that strong a margin.

Trump failed to crack 60%.

Just barely.  He got 59.6%, I believe.  But the thing to remember is that Trump's margins in the WOW counties were not great for a Republican.  It was his strength out west that carried him to victory.  Matching his percentage in WOW won't win it for Republicans unless they also match his (much better) percentages elsewhere.

He's doing worse than Romney, which seems significant. Some of the movement in the suburbs is sticking.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
I came in hoping the win would be large enough to flip Walworth, but it appears that Walworth is staying Republican.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
Women will now make up 6 of the 7 members of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 09:23:56 PM
Screnock actually doing moderately ok in Western Wisconsin, getting about Romney 2012 levels. Dallet won't win Kind's district by more than 12 points.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:24:27 PM
I came in hoping the win would be large enough to flip Walworth, but it appears that Walworth is staying Republican.

Walworth is the unofficial third W in 'WOW,' I'm not sure why you thought it could flip.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
Conservatives flipping out that 38% is too early to call the race and there's no way it can be called at that point.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 09:25:42 PM
Women will now make up 6 of the 7 members of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

We heard you the first time girl


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:25:58 PM
Something is happening up in the Twin Cities Exurbs



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:26:23 PM
Ugh

Screnock is winning Racine County. That is actually a big surprise considering how the rest of the election has been going.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 09:27:08 PM
Winning St Croix and losing Racine definitely is interesting.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:27:21 PM
Ugh

Screnock is winning Racine County. That is actually a big surprise considering how the rest of the election has been going.

FoxConn


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:28:07 PM
It looks like Racine and Kenosha are divorcing over FoxConn.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
Ugh

Screnock is winning Racine County. That is actually a big surprise considering how the rest of the election has been going.

That's mildly shocking.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 09:28:30 PM
Ugh

Screnock is winning Racine County. That is actually a big surprise considering how the rest of the election has been going.

FoxConn

That could easily flip once the local tax increases happen that the public doesn't know about yet.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Clinton 2018 in the burbs, Obama 2012 in rural areas and ridiculously energized urban turnout means disaster for Republicans.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:30:57 PM
Clinton 2018 in the burbs, Obama 2012 in rural areas and ridiculously energized urban turnout means disaster for Republicans.

This is closer to apocalyptic than it is disaster.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
Ugh

Screnock is winning Racine County. That is actually a big surprise considering how the rest of the election has been going.

That's mildly shocking.

Not really. Minority voters are the Democratic base there, while the suburbs are as conservative as the WOW counties. If minority turnout isn't great, Democrats really have no chance winning there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Looks like Dallet will win Outagamie County.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Marathon County flipped.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 09:34:34 PM
Screnock was slaughtered in Green Bay... Dallet leads in Brown County by 10.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:35:12 PM
Looks like Dallet will win Outagamie County.

Surprising things so far:

-Racine going for Screnock
-St. Croix pickup
-Door County >60%
-Manitowoc County pickup
-Leading in Marathon County
-Eau Claire >60%
-Oneida County pickup


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Dallet leading in Brown County now, 55-45.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Koharu on April 03, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
While it's not quite 50%, this makes me happy here in Dane county:

BALLOTS CAST - TOTAL              42.4 %   131232
REGISTERED VOTERS - TOTAL          309308
87.84% of Precincts Reporting (195 of 222)

https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 09:35:47 PM

You mean Brown?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 03, 2018, 09:37:05 PM

I meant Marathon.

Both Romney and Trump won here.

Dallet has a narrow lead with 100% in.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 03, 2018, 09:37:16 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
Something is happening up in the Twin Cities Exurbs



This is really interesting. Dallet appears to be going the traditional dem path in Wisconsin and St. Croix isn't even on that this far up. Obama 2008 lost the county 51-47 while winning 56-42 statewide for example - the same margin as Dallet now. St. Croix isn't against voting for Left-leaning candidates before now, the 2015 supreme court race saw the dem win by 58-42 and win everything but the greater WOW. However, she won St. Croix less then the reset of the region.

This also appears to match the SD-10 results, where St. Croix moved far to the left. Perhaps more left-leaning Millennial families are seeking homes in the cheep exurbs, shifting the county left? I dunno. Maybe trump is just a extremly poor fit for this exurb in perticular.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 09:38:16 PM
Feels like a safe bet that Sheboygan County should get closer, given the margins in Waukesha and Ozaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: KingSweden on April 03, 2018, 09:38:55 PM
This is telling:

Quote
Basically Trump acting everywhere as a ceiling but nowhere as a floor.

https://twitter.com/Fyodor32768/status/981352886159527937

This should send cold chills down Republican spines.

That’s a good way to phrase it


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:39:40 PM


Probably minority voters not turning out in these extreme offyear election. The primary saw Milwaulkees vote totals match Waukeshas for example, and Milwaulkee has way more people in it then Waukesha.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: YE on April 03, 2018, 09:40:33 PM
Anyone have a county map?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:41:14 PM
Local NPR Bureau Chief:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:41:41 PM

Here

https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html (https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Minnesota Mike on April 03, 2018, 09:42:57 PM

https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2018/4/3/april-2018-wisconsin-election-results.html


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 09:47:38 PM

I meant Marathon.

Both Romney and Trump won here.

Dallet has a narrow lead with 100% in.

Oh, I thought you meant in the context of this race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 09:48:53 PM
Something to remember is that Screnock is originally from the Western Rurals, particularly the area north of Madison and East of la Crosse in the Fox valley. His overpreformance there is probably explained by that. Anyone know where Dallet is from, so we can check her home region effect?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:49:16 PM
Juneau, Monroe, and Adams going for Screnock. What? I feel there's been a bit of a realignment in Western WI.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
Something to remember is that Screnock is originally from the Western Rurals, particularly the area north of Madison and East of la Crosse in the Fox valley. His overpreformance there is probably explained by that. Anyone know where Dallet is from, so we can check her home region effect?

Milwaukee


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Walker is starting ranting on twitter


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:54:03 PM
Juneau, Monroe, and Adams going for Screnock. What? I feel there's been a bit of a realignment in Western WI.

Adams is interesting, but the other two have always been more conservative.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:55:18 PM




Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 09:55:57 PM
100% in, Steve Taylor down by 23 votes, REALLY hope that holds.

Conservatives and Russian trolls out on FB in force, lamenting the liberal witch who brought in all the out of state money. Totally hilarious though, that's where almost all of Walker's money comes from.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 09:56:41 PM
To make this night even better the Brewers just walked off the Cardinals!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
Dallet might hit 70% in LaCrosse. Madness!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on April 03, 2018, 09:58:06 PM

He sounds like Roy Moore. LOL. He's toast!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 09:58:24 PM
One amazing result out Kewaunee County (one of the counties in SD-1).
It voted 61-33 Trump and tonight only 51-49 Screnock

That special election looks like an amazing pick-up opportunity now


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 03, 2018, 10:00:23 PM
Any apparent explanation for why Dane is killing it while Milwaukee is underwhelming?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 10:01:47 PM
Any apparent explanation for why Dane is killing it while Milwaukee is underwhelming?

"Resistance" voters vs Minority voters


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 03, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
Any apparent explanation for why Dane is killing it while Milwaukee is underwhelming?

The Milwaukee Dem base is generally its minority population that doesn't really turn out much in off elections. Should be better in November though by how much we don't know.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:01:58 PM
Looking at these results, Kohl might have a chance in WI-06.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 10:03:17 PM
Gotta feel decent about holding Minnesota-08 with those margins in Bayfield and Ashland counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on April 03, 2018, 10:03:38 PM
Any apparent explanation for why Dane is killing it while Milwaukee is underwhelming?
Low minority turnout?

The most vocal people in the Resistance are angry white liberals. The few people I know in Racine and Milwaukee counties have paid no attention to this race.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 03, 2018, 10:04:21 PM
Looking at these results, Kohl might have a chance in WI-06.

To add to this, Gallagher could get pranked by Green Bay-Appleton, Door, and weak rural margins.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:04:37 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

Also only 10% of Adams is in, so let's wait and see what happens.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Illiniwek on April 03, 2018, 10:08:30 PM
You guys, I am going to be so happy to see Walker lose in November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:08:54 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

Also only 10% of Adams is in, so let's wait and see what happens.

Fair enough.

Also, Kewaunee is sticking out like sore thumb (lol). We're getting some seriously weird breaks in expected county co-swings.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:10:12 PM
LaCrosse, 69%. Come on 70%!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: kph14 on April 03, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

She got 69% in LaCrosse, Limo


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: LimoLiberal on April 03, 2018, 10:12:09 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

She got 69% in LaCrosse, Limo

This was a bad post in hindsight. I meant "Why is Dallet underperforming Obama '12 numbers in the more rural Western Wisconsin counties like Grant, Buffalo, or Juneau?"


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 10:12:26 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

She got 69% in LaCrosse, Limo

This was a bad post in hindsight. I meant "Why is Dallet underperforming Obama '12 numbers in the more rural Western Wisconsin counties like Grant, Buffalo, or Juneau?"

Screnock's from the Rural west Fox valley area, he's getting a home region boost methinks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: henster on April 03, 2018, 10:12:53 PM
Is it too late for Kind to jump in for GOV?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:13:31 PM
Is it too late for Kind to jump in for GOV?

Not really, but Evers will do just fine.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 03, 2018, 10:15:46 PM
Any apparent explanation for why Dane is killing it while Milwaukee is underwhelming?
Low minority turnout?

The most vocal people in the Resistance are angry white liberals.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 10:16:00 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

Also only 10% of Adams is in, so let's wait and see what happens.

Fair enough.

Also, Kewaunee is sticking out like sore thumb (lol). We're getting some seriously weird breaks in expected county co-swings.

I would say Manitowoc is the weirder result. That county has more in common with Republican Calamut and Sheboygan rather that the Oshkosh - Green Bay corridor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
Wow, Milwaukee county supervisor district 1 is at 103% reporting.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Oryxslayer on April 03, 2018, 10:18:21 PM
Wow, Milwaukee county supervisor district 1 is at 103% reporting.

gotta get in that graveyard vote. ;)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Sheboygan County now 100% in, Screnock 55%-45%. In line with the Romney 54%-44% result in 2012 presidential.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 10:19:20 PM
Wow, Milwaukee county supervisor district 1 is at 103% reporting.

gotta get in that graveyard vote. ;)

Something, something, dead people from Chicago


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:20:38 PM
Wow, Milwaukee county supervisor district 1 is at 103% reporting.

gotta get in that graveyard vote. ;)

Something, something, dead people from Chicago

Don't forget the buses.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 10:20:55 PM
Why did Dallet underperform in Western Wisconsin compared to Obama 2012?

She didn't. She overperformed in some places and underperformed in others in rather unexpected ways (St. Croix vs. Adams vs. LaCrosse).

She got 69% in LaCrosse, Limo

This was a bad post in hindsight. I meant "Why is Dallet underperforming Obama '12 numbers in the more rural Western Wisconsin counties like Grant, Buffalo, or Juneau?"

Screnock's from the Rural west Fox valley area, he's getting a home region boost methinks.

I hate to inform you that that region of the state doesn't exist. :p

Screnock currently is a judge in Sauk County, which he lost by 12%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 10:38:10 PM
So, when does Waukesha magically dump 110,000 missing votes for Screnock?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 10:40:35 PM
So, when does Waukesha magically dump 110,000 missing votes for Screnock?

They'll find them soon.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 10:42:10 PM
Wood county flips! This effectively connects the entirety of the MN exurbs/Eau Claire to the stretch crossing Wausau into Oneida. These results all look so weird in comparison to others. Northern and central Wisconsin pulling out the stops.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ronnie on April 03, 2018, 11:02:18 PM




He is absolutely sweating like a dog right now.  Tonight made me hopeful that he might actually lose.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 11:07:08 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 11:10:34 PM
This is interesting:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Pragmatic Conservative on April 03, 2018, 11:11:21 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.

Republicans haven’t been able to beat Trumps margins in suburban countries in almost any election since 2016. So I am not sure why that is likely to change with Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 03, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.

Republicans haven’t been able to beat Trumps margins in suburban countries in almost any election since 2016. So I am not sure why that is likely to change with Walker.
First of all, he’s the incumbent and has had a long history of contrasting himself against the crime rates and ghettoes of Milwaukee as well as union workers in order to win over the suburbs. Second of all, Dems couldn’t even recall him during the nadir of his governorship. Third, thanks to the alt-right and Trump, Walker now looks more moderate.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Rookie Yinzer on April 03, 2018, 11:15:19 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 03, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.

Republicans haven’t been able to beat Trumps margins in suburban countries in almost any election since 2016. So I am not sure why that is likely to change with Walker.
First of all, he’s the incumbent and has had a long history of contrasting himself against the crime rates and ghettoes of Milwaukee as well as union workers in order to win over the suburbs. Second of all, Dems couldn’t even recall him during the nadir of his governorship. Third, thanks to the alt-right and Trump, Walker now looks more moderate.

This has surely been pointed out a billion times before, but I'll make the point anyway: Walker ran against the recall itself, casting it as an illegitimate option.

I'm not even going to get into your stereotyped portrayal of Milwaukee...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 11:21:01 PM
Miles with the swing map soon.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Pragmatic Conservative on April 03, 2018, 11:21:06 PM
I declare the Governor race is much more Tilt R than Likely R after tonight. Walker (unlike Screnock) on the ballot will boost the WOW numbers back to Romney levels, while holding on to the 2016 gains.

Republicans haven’t been able to beat Trumps margins in suburban countries in almost any election since 2016. So I am not sure why that is likely to change with Walker.
First of all, he’s the incumbent and has had a long history of contrasting himself against the crime rates and ghettoes of Milwaukee as well as union workers in order to win over the suburbs. Second of all, Dems couldn’t even recall him during the nadir of his governorship. Third, thanks to the alt-right and Trump, Walker now looks more moderate.
He is relatively polarizing statewide and in a polarized state with energized Dem turnout is the perfect setup for a Dem victory. Walkers likley opponent is also a popular incumbent in Tony Evers statewide officer who won re-election in a massive landslide last year. Also more establishment Republicans like Gillespie haven’t outperformed Trump at all in the suburbs. A lot of voters don’t seem to care much about ideology they just want to punish Trump/Republicans and I doubt that changes much by November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 11:22:56 PM
What are the outstanding precincts in Dane? It's possible for Dallet to net even 82%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Virginiá on April 03, 2018, 11:23:04 PM
First of all, he’s the incumbent and has had a long history of contrasting himself against the crime rates and ghettoes of Milwaukee as well as union workers in order to win over the suburbs. Second of all, Dems couldn’t even recall him during the nadir of his governorship. Third, thanks to the alt-right and Trump, Walker now looks more moderate.

It should be clear by now that this election cycle will be much worse for just about all Republicans than 2012 was. I mean, if you truly do not believe it will, then I don't even know what to say. Almost nothing that has happened since 2016 has been anything other than an example that a great many people are pissed off and are voting for anyone but Republicans. They don't care about contrasts.

Incumbents do have an advantage, but that is usually weakened in waves, and after 8 years, an incumbent's track record can also begin to turn against them if they are not popular. I dunno what Walker's current approvals are, but last I saw, they weren't through the roof. He went from unpopular to middling, which isn't exactly the biggest help in a bad election cycle.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Adam Griffin on April 03, 2018, 11:27:36 PM
Dane County alone is outvoting every Screnock county in the state combined by around 23,000 votes right now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Pragmatic Conservative on April 03, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
Also what has to be more cornering for the Treasury elimination referendum being overwhelmingly rejected. This is something Republicans have put a fair amount of effort trying to push through only to see voters completely reject it. Unlike the SC race their is no candidate quality argument made for this vote; you more or less had a significant number of voters stating their disproval for Walker. Sure Walker won’t do worse then 45% but still if I was him I would be concerned about my re-election chances.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Holmes on April 03, 2018, 11:29:06 PM
Dane really did pull its weight in this race and then some.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Boston Bread on April 03, 2018, 11:31:36 PM
From Miles, Dallet won WI-08 (Northeast) but lost WI-01 (Ryan's district)
https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 11:36:18 PM
Dane County alone is outvoting every Screnock county in the state combined by around 23,000 votes right now.

Good thing it "doesn't matter," per our newest resident troll hack.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Xing on April 03, 2018, 11:47:07 PM
A lot of the remaining vote is from Madison, so this will probably end up around 12-13% in favor of Dallet. Funny, Atlas told me Wisconsin was gone for Democrats, and that they'd sooner win Georgia...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 03, 2018, 11:49:37 PM
A lot of the remaining vote is from Madison, so this will probably end up around 12-13% in favor of Dallet. Funny, Atlas told me Wisconsin was gone for Democrats, and that they'd sooner win Georgia...

Certainly felt that way locally :P Also, I would like to note that tonight's results in SW Wisconsin bode extremely well for performance in IA-01 come November.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 03, 2018, 11:49:48 PM
Dane County ended at 80.9% for Dallet (https://elections.countyofdane.com/electiondetail.aspx)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Boston Bread on April 03, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
Dane County being at 88% seemed to a glitch, because now it's 100% without any new votes.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Koharu on April 03, 2018, 11:53:26 PM
Everyone I voted for today won their race. Today has been a very good day.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: ltomlinson31 on April 03, 2018, 11:56:12 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Boston Bread on April 03, 2018, 11:59:29 PM
Swing maps:


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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
Final map in non-Atlas colors, courtesy of Miles:

Rebecca Dallet    554,841    56% (+12)
Michael Screnock    439,856    44%
100% Reporting

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: NOVA Green on April 04, 2018, 12:20:23 AM
Just got off work not too long ago, and don't have anything to contribute to the conversation at this point....

Just wanted to say that usually on Election Nights in America when I'm working, first thing I do is check the topline numbers when I get homes, and then go back in time on the appropriate Atlas Forum from the early turnout numbers, etc through pages and pages of posts to feel like I am there at that previous moment in time as the results are coming in.

Thank you all for your live detailed live coverage and analysis of this election, and obviously there is ton's of more detailed raw data yet to mine, especially potential implications for the 2018 General Election in the Great State of Wisconsin.....    :)

One question I have, and not sure if I missed it, do we have unofficial final turnout numbers by County yet?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 12:48:00 AM
Just got off work not too long ago, and don't have anything to contribute to the conversation at this point....

Just wanted to say that usually on Election Nights in America when I'm working, first thing I do is check the topline numbers when I get homes, and then go back in time on the appropriate Atlas Forum from the early turnout numbers, etc through pages and pages of posts to feel like I am there at that previous moment in time as the results are coming in.

Thank you all for your live detailed live coverage and analysis of this election, and obviously there is ton's of more detailed raw data yet to mine, especially potential implications for the 2018 General Election in the Great State of Wisconsin.....    :)

One question I have, and not sure if I missed it, do we have unofficial final turnout numbers by County yet?

To my knowledge, no, but estimates had Dane at around 47% turnout, Waukesha at about 30%, and MKE at about 35%.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Pragmatic Conservative on April 04, 2018, 01:04:21 AM
Just got off work not too long ago, and don't have anything to contribute to the conversation at this point....

Just wanted to say that usually on Election Nights in America when I'm working, first thing I do is check the topline numbers when I get homes, and then go back in time on the appropriate Atlas Forum from the early turnout numbers, etc through pages and pages of posts to feel like I am there at that previous moment in time as the results are coming in.

Thank you all for your live detailed live coverage and analysis of this election, and obviously there is ton's of more detailed raw data yet to mine, especially potential implications for the 2018 General Election in the Great State of Wisconsin.....    :)

One question I have, and not sure if I missed it, do we have unofficial final turnout numbers by County yet?
Yes https://www.wisconsinvote.org/election-results


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Matty on April 04, 2018, 01:26:56 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossof lose?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on April 04, 2018, 01:38:14 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossof lose?
The resistance was still making baby steps plus Russiagate/ACA vote failing/and an millions of Trump bs episodes didn't happen yet


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: JerryArkansas on April 04, 2018, 01:40:03 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossof lose?
Cause a congressman got shot, and it was blamed on the resistance.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on April 04, 2018, 01:41:29 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on April 04, 2018, 01:44:28 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money
GA-06 was going to be tough ground in the first place. Romney won this seat by 23 points.
The demographics of the seat are the single biggest factor to blame.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 01:49:17 AM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 04, 2018, 01:49:43 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money

LMAO!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on April 04, 2018, 01:52:40 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money

LMAO!

Uh, reminder that this was a literal GOP ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 04, 2018, 01:55:02 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money

LMAO!

Uh, reminder that this was a literal GOP ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng

And?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on April 04, 2018, 01:56:59 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money

LMAO!

Uh, reminder that this was a literal GOP ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng

And?

This really needs explaining? Her comments about Assassinating the President were seen as quite extreme by most people, they got her fired off all the network news gigs she had at the time (including her longtime role on CNN's new years event), and were re purposed by the GOP for the Ossoff race to great success.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 04, 2018, 02:00:26 AM
This really needs explaining? Her comments about Assassinating the President were seen as quite extreme by most people, they got her fired off all the network news gigs she had at the time (including her longtime role on CNN's new years event), and were re purposed by the GOP for the Ossoff race to great success.

People swayed by an ad about a comedian saying stupid stuff weren't going to vote for Ossoff even if he ran against Roy Moore.
If Kathy Griffin was their excuse for voting Republican, bless their hearts.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on April 04, 2018, 02:02:38 AM
This really needs explaining? Her comments about Assassinating the President were seen as quite extreme by most people, they got her fired off all the network news gigs she had at the time (including her longtime role on CNN's new years event), and were re purposed by the GOP for the Ossoff race to great success.

People swayed by an ad about a comedian saying stupid stuff weren't going to vote for Ossoff even if he ran against Roy Moore.
If Kathy Griffin was their excuse for voting Republican, bless their hearts.

Even if they were never going to vote Ossoff, Kathy Griffin gave them a reason to turnout for a special election.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 04, 2018, 02:03:45 AM
This really needs explaining? Her comments about Assassinating the President were seen as quite extreme by most people, they got her fired off all the network news gigs she had at the time (including her longtime role on CNN's new years event), and were re purposed by the GOP for the Ossoff race to great success.

People swayed by an ad about a comedian saying stupid stuff weren't going to vote for Ossoff even if he ran against Roy Moore.
If Kathy Griffin was their excuse for voting Republican, bless their hearts.

Even if they were never going to vote Ossoff, Kathy Griffin gave them a reason to turnout for a special election.

Nope, that was done by the insane nationalization of the race by the media.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: DemocraticKing on April 04, 2018, 02:04:06 AM
Based on what we have seen for most of 2017 and 2018...how the hell did Ossoff lose?

Kathy Griffin + Didn't live in the district + Strong R candidate + Democrats spent too much money

LMAO!

Uh, reminder that this was a literal GOP ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng

as was this crap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7ZiddrkmI


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Brittain33 on April 04, 2018, 05:45:37 AM
Ossoff's race was too early for a big swing.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Blair on April 04, 2018, 05:54:50 AM
Ossoff was also an awful candidate


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on April 04, 2018, 06:03:25 AM
Ossoff was also an awful candidate

No he wasn't. He ran a pretty good campaign for a rookie.
Not all losers are awful candidates and it wasn't Ossoff's fault that a more experienced candidate didn't step up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 04, 2018, 06:55:14 AM
Ossoff was also an awful candidate

No he wasn't. He ran a pretty good campaign for a rookie.
Not all losers are awful candidates and it wasn't Ossoff's fault that a more experienced candidate didn't step up.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 04, 2018, 07:06:34 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on April 04, 2018, 07:19:58 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 04, 2018, 07:23:26 AM
- It's pretty freaking nuts that WI-02 voted to the left of WI-04.
- Dallet would have won WI-01 if there was no Waukesha County in that district. Its inclusion is that much of an anchor for conservatives. Hopefully we get fair redistricting in 2021 and that gets removed.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 07:29:40 AM
Dems theoretically have four pickup opportunities come fall, in all likelihood it's just 3, I don't think Ryan is going to lose.

Happy to see my hometown, Greendale, went for Dallet 2004-1945, usually is around 53-56% for the Republican so just good to see.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on April 04, 2018, 07:38:17 AM
It looks like Duffy might be vulnerable


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 09:47:20 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 09:49:04 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.

Oh, sorry, I meant they're salty as hell he lost last Spring, so they're endorsements this time around are all based on who opposes Abele. They endorsed Steve Taylor which is hilariously sad.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.

Oh, sorry, I meant they're salty as hell he lost last Spring, so they're endorsements this time around are all based on who opposes Abele. They endorsed Steve Taylor which is hilariously sad.

Gotcha. Taylor lost very narrowly. Did he concede?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 09:50:35 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.

Oh, sorry, I meant they're salty as hell he lost last Spring, so they're endorsements this time around are all based on who opposes Abele. They endorsed Steve Taylor which is hilariously sad.

Gotcha. Taylor lost very narrowly. Did he concede?

Race hasn't officially been called yet I believe, last I looked it was 100% in with him being down by 23 votes. Nothing I've seen from either side.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 09:51:49 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.

Oh, sorry, I meant they're salty as hell he lost last Spring, so they're endorsements this time around are all based on who opposes Abele. They endorsed Steve Taylor which is hilariously sad.

Gotcha. Taylor lost very narrowly. Did he concede?

Race hasn't officially been called yet I believe, last I looked it was 100% in with him being down by 23 votes. Nothing I've seen from either side.

Fingers crossed. Last night was a great night all around, practically everywhere. I'm surprisingly satisfied.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 09:52:48 AM
The endorsements for the Milwaukee County Board by The Shepherd Expresses are like working in a salt factory. They're totally mad about King Larson losing and endorsed people strictly on if they were supported or opposed by Abele for actual issues. Good lord.

Glad to hear Larson lost.

Oh, sorry, I meant they're salty as hell he lost last Spring, so they're endorsements this time around are all based on who opposes Abele. They endorsed Steve Taylor which is hilariously sad.

Gotcha. Taylor lost very narrowly. Did he concede?

Race hasn't officially been called yet I believe, last I looked it was 100% in with him being down by 23 votes. Nothing I've seen from either side.

Fingers crossed. Last night was a great night all around, practically everywhere. I'm surprisingly satisfied.

I agree, still would have liked to see Lipscomb go down over that damn dam though but you can't win them all.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: DINGO Joe on April 04, 2018, 10:08:15 AM
Interesting how much Screnock's percentage fell in the counties around/near Milwaukee from the first election.  From 64 to 59 in Ozaukee, from 75 to 69 in Washington, from 69 to 64 in Waukesha, from 57 to 52 in Racine.  Most of that would be from better turnout I guess, but there had to of been some voters that flipped from Screnock to Dallett.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: 💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his) on April 04, 2018, 10:15:22 AM
Glad Dallet won, but the election of supreme court judges (or judges period) is still an abhorrent practice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 04, 2018, 10:15:48 AM
Glad Dallet won, but the election of supreme court judges (or judges period) is still an abhorrent practice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Doimper on April 04, 2018, 10:28:18 AM
Scott Walker of all people is now afraid of a "blue wave".

Holy sh**t. My wife came into my room to bring me a ham and cheese sandwich and I literally screamed at her and slapped it out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my wife but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the f-cking f-ck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a f-cking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a state without unions. I want Screnock to be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and let me remove Democrats from the voter rolls. I cannot f-cking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in Wisconsin?? This is so f-cked.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: DINGO Joe on April 04, 2018, 10:51:08 AM
Scott Walker of all people is now afraid of a "blue wave".

Holy sh**t. My wife came into my room to bring me a ham and cheese sandwich and I literally screamed at her and slapped it out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my wife but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the f-cking f-ck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a f-cking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a state without unions. I want Screnock to be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and let me remove Democrats from the voter rolls. I cannot f-cking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in Wisconsin?? This is so f-cked.

I believe wasting a ham and cheese sandwich is an impeachable offense in Wisconsin


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2018, 10:52:19 AM
Scott Walker of all people is now afraid of a "blue wave".

Holy sh**t. My wife came into my room to bring me a ham and cheese sandwich and I literally screamed at her and slapped it out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my wife but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the f-cking f-ck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a f-cking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a state without unions. I want Screnock to be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and let me remove Democrats from the voter rolls. I cannot f-cking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in Wisconsin?? This is so f-cked.

I believe wasting a ham and cheese sandwich is an impeachable offense in Wisconsin

No, that's beer, brats and cheese curds.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 04, 2018, 03:33:22 PM
Some parts of Madison were very excited yesterday:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
Some parts of Madison were very excited yesterday:



Holy crap Olbrich! That's presidential turnout, if not slightly better than.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 04, 2018, 04:28:49 PM
I wonder if the looming trade war will cause Screnrock to fall a bit versus his primary numbers in agricultural areas of Wisconsin, particularly in the north.

I do think that the threat of tariffs swung that weird tendril of north-central Wisconsin counties towards Dallet, flipping them vs the primary. I may have overestimated the impact, but this phenomenon seems to have manifested itself in that region.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 04, 2018, 04:34:49 PM
Scott Walker of all people is now afraid of a "blue wave".

Holy sh**t. My wife came into my room to bring me a ham and cheese sandwich and I literally screamed at her and slapped it out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my wife but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the f-cking f-ck is he losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a f-cking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a state without unions. I want Screnock to be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court and let me remove Democrats from the voter rolls. I cannot f-cking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was polling well in Wisconsin?? This is so f-cked.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Green Line on April 04, 2018, 05:46:28 PM
Most Wisconsinites are too busy working to vote on a random Tuesday in April for a low profile office.  This economy is affecting us all. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on April 04, 2018, 07:28:59 PM
Glad Dallet won, but the election of supreme court judges (or judges period) is still an abhorrent practice.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗 on April 04, 2018, 07:43:39 PM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.
That's amazing. what explains her underperformence in Menominee County though?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 04, 2018, 07:46:31 PM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.
That's amazing. what explains her underperformence in Menominee County though?

Minority turnout was down across the board.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: DINGO Joe on April 04, 2018, 07:47:54 PM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.
That's amazing. what explains her underperformence in Menominee County though?

It's mostly an Indian reservation and they didn't turn out.  Of course, Dane cast 133,000 votes while Menominee cast 150 so she chose the right county to overperform


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 04, 2018, 07:52:07 PM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.
That's amazing. what explains her underperformence in Menominee County though?

Minority turnout was down across the board.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: ElectionsGuy on April 05, 2018, 12:01:12 AM
I do think these elections are indicative of a Democratic national environment however I think the strength is being overstated. In these April elections the turnout is skewed to the most motivated base of people. We can see that clearly with the insane results in Dane county. I do think Walker is in serious trouble but unlikely we will see blowouts like this for the Governor or Senate race in 2018.

I think the most disappointing result for me was the referendum. Weird how the state elected the guy who ran on abolishing the treasury department and then years later vote overwhelmingly against such action.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2018, 07:02:54 AM
I do think these elections are indicative of a Democratic national environment however I think the strength is being overstated. In these April elections the turnout is skewed to the most motivated base of people. We can see that clearly with the insane results in Dane county. I do think Walker is in serious trouble but unlikely we will see blowouts like this for the Governor or Senate race in 2018.

I think the most disappointing result for me was the referendum. Weird how the state elected the guy who ran on abolishing the treasury department and then years later vote overwhelmingly against such action.

He won in two strong Republican years, most people probably didn't even know that was his position and just voted for him because he had an R next to his name.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 05, 2018, 07:11:01 AM
P.S. per Miles, Dallet outperformed Obama 2008 in Dane by 15 points.
That's amazing. what explains her underperformence in Menominee County though?

Minority turnout was down across the board.

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Miles' map here clearly shows this. Clinton did a much better in the Milwaukee precincts that are heavily black in the northside of the city and the Hispanic area in the southern part of the city. Contrast that to the Milwaukee precincts that are along Lake Michigan and Downtown, where Dallet did much better than Clinton among white Milwaukee voters.

It's also great to see Dallet improve in Wauwatosa, West Allis, and most of the Northshore suburbs. There are 3-5 assembly seats here that are gerrymandered into the WOW counties that could be won if the Democrats can run strong in these communities while keeping the margins lower in the WOW counties.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 05, 2018, 12:49:23 PM
In the end it wasn't a 23 vote margin for Steve Taylor, he lost by over 500, Oak Creek results weren't supported. No recount, the ahole is gone!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 05, 2018, 12:59:41 PM
In the end it wasn't a 23 vote margin for Steve Taylor, he lost by over 500, Oak Creek results weren't supported. No recount, the ahole is gone!

Great news!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 06, 2018, 09:16:56 AM
J Miles Coleman has been producing some great maps by CD. In addition to Dane County and Greater Milwaukee, he's now done WI-08 and WI-01. What's really impressive is how well Dallet did in the Fox Valley. She clobbered Screnock in Appleton and Green Bay, and as far as I can tell, carried all but one of those cities major suburbs. I think the only sizeable town Screnock carried in Brown or Outagamie County was Suamico. Dallet carried all the rest, including De Pere, Allouez, Ashwabenon, Howard, Little Chute, Kimberly, Combined Locks, and Kaukauna.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2018, 10:18:33 AM
Miles' map of WI-01 triggered my absolute hate of that district. It is the most gerrymandered district in the state. Even more so than WI-03.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2018, 10:20:35 AM
J Miles Coleman has been producing some great maps by CD. In addition to Dane County and Greater Milwaukee, he's now done WI-08 and WI-01. What's really impressive is how well Dallet did in the Fox Valley. She clobbered Screnock in Appleton and Green Bay, and as far as I can tell, carried all but one of those cities major suburbs. I think the only sizeable town Screnock carried in Brown or Outagamie County was Suamico. Dallet carried all the rest, including De Pere, Allouez, Ashwabenon, Howard, Little Chute, Kimberly, Combined Locks, and Kaukauna.



A few of those Appleton suburbs are in WI-01.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 06, 2018, 10:21:29 AM
Miles' map of WI-01 triggered my absolute hate of that district. It is the most gerrymandered district in the state. Even more so than WI-03.

Well with the absolute shift in the party and leaving it, and not standing up to Trump in the slightest, Ryan will no longer be getting my vote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 06, 2018, 10:22:11 AM
J Miles Coleman has been producing some great maps by CD. In addition to Dane County and Greater Milwaukee, he's now done WI-08 and WI-01. What's really impressive is how well Dallet did in the Fox Valley. She clobbered Screnock in Appleton and Green Bay, and as far as I can tell, carried all but one of those cities major suburbs. I think the only sizeable town Screnock carried in Brown or Outagamie County was Suamico. Dallet carried all the rest, including De Pere, Allouez, Ashwabenon, Howard, Little Chute, Kimberly, Combined Locks, and Kaukauna.



A few of those Appleton suburbs are in WI-01.

No they're not, did you mean WI-06?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 06, 2018, 10:24:11 AM
I understand the Dane numbers, but what is going on in the 8th? It doesn't seem like #Resistance territory to me. It's not a particularly urban/suburban district either. Any Wisconsin expert care to weigh in?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2018, 10:33:15 AM
J Miles Coleman has been producing some great maps by CD. In addition to Dane County and Greater Milwaukee, he's now done WI-08 and WI-01. What's really impressive is how well Dallet did in the Fox Valley. She clobbered Screnock in Appleton and Green Bay, and as far as I can tell, carried all but one of those cities major suburbs. I think the only sizeable town Screnock carried in Brown or Outagamie County was Suamico. Dallet carried all the rest, including De Pere, Allouez, Ashwabenon, Howard, Little Chute, Kimberly, Combined Locks, and Kaukauna.



A few of those Appleton suburbs are in WI-01.

No they're not, did you mean WI-06?

Sorry, I meant WI SD-01.



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 06, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
Did Dallet end up winning SD-01? I think it’s a couple points to the right of the 8th

Looking at this map and reviewing the Manitowoc County numbers, I think so.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 08, 2018, 12:01:22 PM
Hm, I never noticed this before, but it appears Tony Evers has improved and updated his website a bit. (https://www.tonyevers.com/)

He has a surprisingly in-depth and comprehensive issues page. Idk, I just thought this was cool and I'd share it with everyone.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 08, 2018, 02:44:03 PM
Hm, I never noticed this before, but it appears Tony Evers has improved and updated his website a bit. (https://www.tonyevers.com/)

He has a surprisingly in-depth and comprehensive issues page. Idk, I just thought this was cool and I'd share it with everyone.

Yep. That's eons ahead of what he originally had!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Duke of York on April 08, 2018, 04:58:22 PM
Hm, I never noticed this before, but it appears Tony Evers has improved and updated his website a bit. (https://www.tonyevers.com/)

He has a surprisingly in-depth and comprehensive issues page. Idk, I just thought this was cool and I'd share it with everyone.

I think he's the strongest candidate to take out Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MAINEiac4434 on April 09, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
Evers is one of my favorite candidates this cycle. He’s probably already made himself a top contender to replace DeCos in the next Democratic Administration.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 09, 2018, 11:00:22 AM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 09, 2018, 11:02:16 AM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Scottholes 2.0 on April 09, 2018, 01:20:37 PM
God, I really hope Evers beats Walker, especially after Dallet's win.

Also, Scott Walker seems very terrified lately.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: redjohn on April 09, 2018, 04:07:05 PM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.

And how many people know who Evers is? Name recognition at this point doesn't matter that much, in my opinion. The last poll (Marquette) had 45% of Democrats undecided. Mitchell would be able to turnout more voters in Milwaukee, where Democrats have underperformed in recent elections.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 09, 2018, 05:21:32 PM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.

And how many people know who Evers is? Name recognition at this point doesn't matter that much, in my opinion. The last poll (Marquette) had 45% of Democrats undecided. Mitchell would be able to turnout more voters in Milwaukee, where Democrats have underperformed in recent elections.

We don't really need Milwaukee as much as we need someone who can perform well(or at least not tank nearly as bad as Hillary) in rural areas and out in Driftless. Milwaukee had pretty lackluster turnout in the Supreme Court and we still won by 12 points because Dallet did pretty well in rural areas and Dane County had murderous turnout rates.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 09, 2018, 05:50:17 PM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.

And how many people know who Evers is? Name recognition at this point doesn't matter that much, in my opinion. The last poll (Marquette) had 45% of Democrats undecided. Mitchell would be able to turnout more voters in Milwaukee, where Democrats have underperformed in recent elections.

We don't really need Milwaukee as much as we need someone who can perform well(or at least not tank nearly as bad as Hillary) in rural areas and out in Driftless. Milwaukee had pretty lackluster turnout in the Supreme Court and we still won by 12 points because Dallet did pretty well in rural areas and Dane County had murderous turnout rates.

Exactly, you can pain Mitchell as a "Milwaukee liberal" or others as a "Madison liberal", you can't do that with Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 09, 2018, 06:11:39 PM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.

And how many people know who Evers is? Name recognition at this point doesn't matter that much, in my opinion. The last poll (Marquette) had 45% of Democrats undecided. Mitchell would be able to turnout more voters in Milwaukee, where Democrats have underperformed in recent elections.

We don't really need Milwaukee as much as we need someone who can perform well(or at least not tank nearly as bad as Hillary) in rural areas and out in Driftless. Milwaukee had pretty lackluster turnout in the Supreme Court and we still won by 12 points because Dallet did pretty well in rural areas and Dane County had murderous turnout rates.

Exactly, you can pain Mitchell as a "Milwaukee liberal" or others as a "Madison liberal", you can't do that with Evers.

And I'm not a fan of MKE right now. We can't count on them for anything it seems. It seems that MKE voters couldn't care less, even with a MKE native on the ticket.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 09:35:52 AM
Still think Walker has a better chance against Evers; Mitchell would almost certainly win the general against Walker. With the Supreme Court landslide, Evers seems in a better position than I thought previously, but it's still going to be a rough race in which Walker could very possibly win re-election.

Mitchell really is a nobody, he's not well known, has no real strength out in the country which Evers has won multiple times in the past and who the Dems need to win the race.

And how many people know who Evers is? Name recognition at this point doesn't matter that much, in my opinion. The last poll (Marquette) had 45% of Democrats undecided. Mitchell would be able to turnout more voters in Milwaukee, where Democrats have underperformed in recent elections.

We don't really need Milwaukee as much as we need someone who can perform well(or at least not tank nearly as bad as Hillary) in rural areas and out in Driftless. Milwaukee had pretty lackluster turnout in the Supreme Court and we still won by 12 points because Dallet did pretty well in rural areas and Dane County had murderous turnout rates.

Exactly, you can pain Mitchell as a "Milwaukee liberal" or others as a "Madison liberal", you can't do that with Evers.

And I'm not a fan of MKE right now. We can't count on them for anything it seems. It seems that MKE voters couldn't care less, even with a MKE native on the ticket.

Much of the Dem base in Milwaukee is the poor minority communities who are so busy just trying to exist and not drown in life that they don't have the luxury of politics to follow these elections outside of the big ones. Which is sad since so many of these elections have such a large impact on their day to day lives and their ability to survive.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: KingSweden on April 10, 2018, 09:48:25 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 10:19:22 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 10, 2018, 10:24:12 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 10:26:11 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 10, 2018, 10:31:08 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2018, 10:37:24 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2018, 10:42:45 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.

Filing deadline is June 1, I agree and hope that a few of the mid-level candidates dropdown.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 10:44:25 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.

Filing deadline is June 1, I agree and hope that a few of the mid-level candidates dropdown.

Can we at least fully get rid of Soglin?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2018, 10:46:48 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.

Filing deadline is June 1, I agree and hope that a few of the mid-level candidates dropdown.

Can we at least fully get rid of Soglin?

Doubtful, what little polling we've had has suggested that he's running at #2.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 10:48:28 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.

Filing deadline is June 1, I agree and hope that a few of the mid-level candidates dropdown.

Can we at least fully get rid of Soglin?

Doubtful, what little polling we've had has suggested that he's running at #2.

Sad, he'd for sure make the race a lost cause.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2018, 10:49:48 AM


Also Tom Steyer came to Wisconsin to help register and encourge young folks to go vote. Not suprsing, Walker has a Trump style hissyfit:




Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 10, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Who’s the likeliest LG choice for Dems?

If the governor's race is wide open that's even wider. I would personally like to see Evers/Vinehout or Evers/Mitchell.

Evers/Vinehout sounds great to me. Evers/Mitchell would also work. Are you now on Team Evers? :D

I was always on his team or team Vinehout, he's looking like the stronger option so I will go there. Still like Vinehout though.

I'll take it! I'll be campaigning for him later on.

That means that Vinehout or Mitchell would have to refile to run in LG primary. As of now it's Mandela Barns and 3 people I've never heard of running for LG.


I imagine as we get closer there will be a few that drop out because they know they aren't going anywhere.

Filing deadline is June 1, I agree and hope that a few of the mid-level candidates dropdown.

Can we at least fully get rid of Soglin?

Doubtful, what little polling we've had has suggested that he's running at #2.

Sad, he'd for sure make the race a lost cause.

Most years I'd agree, not sure who the Dems put up will matter this year given the national environment.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 10, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
Nominating someone heavily tied to the crime-infested "Chicago-lite" city of Milwaukee would be the Dems shooting themselves on the foot.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 10, 2018, 01:07:54 PM
Nominating someone heavily tied to the crime-infested "Chicago-lite" city of Milwaukee would be the Dems shooting themselves on the foot.

You sound like one of the suburbanites around the city who think it's like that.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: GlobeSoc on April 10, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
Nominating someone heavily tied to the crime-infested "Chicago-lite" city of Milwaukee would be the Dems shooting themselves on the foot.

WOW is not your average suburb, they are not in our path to victory.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: junior chįmp on April 10, 2018, 03:02:20 PM
Former Governor Tommy Thompson thinks Walker is toast

Tommy Predicts Walker Could Lose Big
 (https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2018/04/10/op-ed-tommy-predicts-walker-could-lose-big/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist on April 10, 2018, 03:11:42 PM
Nominating someone heavily tied to the crime-infested "Chicago-lite" city of Milwaukee would be the Dems shooting themselves on the foot.

WOW is not your average suburb, they are not in our path to victory.

Milwaukee suburbs seem like they are very much the old white flight-style suburbs that hate the city they surround. Very different from DC/Philadelphia/Chicago suburbs that (nowadays, anyway) actually see themselves as partners with their cities.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 10, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
Nominating someone heavily tied to the crime-infested "Chicago-lite" city of Milwaukee would be the Dems shooting themselves on the foot.

To whom are you referring?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on April 10, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
Former Governor Tommy Thompson thinks Walker is toast

Tommy Predicts Walker Could Lose Big
 (https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2018/04/10/op-ed-tommy-predicts-walker-could-lose-big/)

He would know.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 11, 2018, 06:44:35 AM
Former Governor Tommy Thompson thinks Walker is toast

Tommy Predicts Walker Could Lose Big
 (https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2018/04/10/op-ed-tommy-predicts-walker-could-lose-big/)

He would know.

Lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 11, 2018, 08:16:56 AM
Former Governor Tommy Thompson thinks Walker is toast

Tommy Predicts Walker Could Lose Big
 (https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2018/04/10/op-ed-tommy-predicts-walker-could-lose-big/)

He would know.

Lol

Given that even Ryan is hightailing it, yep!


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Torrain on April 11, 2018, 08:28:45 AM
Assuming Ryan’s retirement leads to a closer WI-01 race, and reduced morale, how much should Walker worry?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 11, 2018, 08:29:43 AM
Assuming Ryan’s retirement leads to a closer WI-01 race, and reduced morale, how much should Walker worry?

GOP should win WI-01, might be closer now. Walker should be very worried though.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 11, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
Who's going to jump out of the Senate or Assembly to run here? Could we see Vos take the plunge? Any Democrats going to jump into the mix?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 11, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
Who's going to jump out of the Senate or Assembly to run here? Could we see Vos take the plunge? Any Democrats going to jump into the mix?

GOP Side:
Vos, Kerkman

Dem Side:
Cory Mason (Racine Mayor), Peter Barca (former US house rep himself).


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 11, 2018, 12:54:22 PM
WI-01 is Foxconn country. National politics or whatever Ryan is up to has no bearing here. Likely Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: TJ in Oregon on April 11, 2018, 03:29:41 PM
Assuming Ryan’s retirement leads to a closer WI-01 race, and reduced morale, how much should Walker worry?

I can't imagine this has much bearing on Walker's chances. If anything, Walker's performance is more likely to have an effect on WI-1.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: junior chįmp on April 11, 2018, 03:38:28 PM
Assuming Ryan’s retirement leads to a closer WI-01 race, and reduced morale, how much should Walker worry?

Walker lost the day Trump won


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 13, 2018, 08:48:12 AM
More awesome maps from Miles that are relevant for the upcoming special elections:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: KingSweden on April 13, 2018, 08:52:03 AM
Assuming Ryan’s retirement leads to a closer WI-01 race, and reduced morale, how much should Walker worry?

I can't imagine this has much bearing on Walker's chances. If anything, Walker's performance is more likely to have an effect on WI-1.

^^^


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 17, 2018, 02:16:04 PM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 17, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
↑ Wisconsin looks like it's in line for a trifecta flip.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 17, 2018, 03:01:32 PM
Not comparable because a lot of these GOP seats (in the Assembly as well as the Senate) are held by incumbents, who will have an easier time holding on to their seats than Screnock winning an open one. This won't be the year to flip the trifecta. Also, with Walker on the top of the ballot, a lot of suburbanite conservative folks (especially in the South-East corner of the stater) who otherwise won't turn out, will. Assembly and Senate are both Likely R.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Boston Bread on April 17, 2018, 03:17:50 PM
The southeast won't decide Assembly or Senate. There are zero Dallet-R senate seats and 2 Dallet-R assembly seats in the southeast. Western WI and Green Bay-Appleton-Oshkosh will be deciding Assembly and Senate control.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 17, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
Not comparable because a lot of these GOP seats (in the Assembly as well as the Senate) are held by incumbents, who will have an easier time holding on to their seats than Screnock winning an open one. This won't be the year to flip the trifecta. Also, with Walker on the top of the ballot, a lot of suburbanite conservative folks (especially in the South-East corner of the stater) who otherwise won't turn out, will. Assembly and Senate are both Likely R.

As said directly above, look at the map. What you said would have zero effect on flipping either since the flipped seats are nowhere close to those areas.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 17, 2018, 03:31:56 PM
I was responding to the thought of flipping to a D trifecta as a whole...and gave reasons as to why Walker was winning Gov (his strength in the South East). That seemed to have been confused by people with my reasoning as to why Dems cannot win the gerrymandered legislature.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 17, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
I was responding to the thought of flipping to a D trifecta as a whole...and gave reasons as to why Walker was winning Gov (his strength in the South East). That seemed to have been confused by people with my reasoning as to why Dems cannot win the gerrymandered legislature.

Considering every sign is pointing to him losing we are all still confused.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 17, 2018, 03:56:03 PM
Report says Barrett eyeing another run for Governor. Hope not, can't take someone tied to Milwaukee or Madison right now. The swing voters have been frothed in anti-city rhetoric for years now.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 17, 2018, 04:45:18 PM
Report says Barrett eyeing another run for Governor. Hope not, can't take someone tied to Milwaukee or Madison right now. The swing voters have been frothed in anti-city rhetoric for years now.

Blergh


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 17, 2018, 05:51:14 PM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS on April 17, 2018, 06:02:03 PM
Tony Evers is going to win the primary regardless.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 17, 2018, 06:43:03 PM
Tony Evers is going to win the primary regardless.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 17, 2018, 07:54:36 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 17, 2018, 07:55:47 PM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on April 17, 2018, 08:35:31 PM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.

Worst of both worlds for them.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on April 18, 2018, 08:55:54 AM
Wisconsin legend and civil rights leader Vel Phillips passed away. Few of her accomplishments:

— 1st woman, 1st African American elected to Milwaukee Common Council
— 1st woman judge in Milwaukee County
— 1st African-American judge in WI
— 1st African American elected statewide in WI (Secertary of State)

Video on her life (http://www.pbs.org/program/vel-phillips/)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 18, 2018, 09:12:24 AM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.

If Milwaukee voted at the same level as Dane they could probably never have to rely on the rest of the state for anything.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 18, 2018, 09:13:16 AM
Wisconsin legend and civil rights leader Vel Phillips passed away. Few of her accomplishments:

— 1st woman, 1st African American elected to Milwaukee Common Council
— 1st woman judge in Milwaukee County
— 1st African-American judge in WI
— 1st African American elected statewide in WI (Secertary of State)

Video on her life (http://www.pbs.org/program/vel-phillips/)

RIP FF


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 18, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
Wisconsin legend and civil rights leader Vel Phillips passed away. Few of her accomplishments:

— 1st woman, 1st African American elected to Milwaukee Common Council
— 1st woman judge in Milwaukee County
— 1st African-American judge in WI
— 1st African American elected statewide in WI (Secertary of State)

Video on her life (http://www.pbs.org/program/vel-phillips/)

Saw that this morning, RIP.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 18, 2018, 09:16:37 AM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.



If Milwaukee voted at the same level as Dane they could probably never have to rely on the rest of the state for anything.

For every 1 lost in the Driftless, right? I don’t subscribe to the Chuck Schumer “winning” philosophy.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 18, 2018, 09:20:37 AM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.



If Milwaukee voted at the same level as Dane they could probably never have to rely on the rest of the state for anything.

For every 1 lost in the Driftless, right? I don’t subscribe to the Chuck Schumer “winning” philosophy.

Would give the Dems an extra 200,000 voters which would buffer anything lost, so a 2016 election with 200,000 more Dem votes (almost all of them would be in the minority communities) is an easy win.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 18, 2018, 09:22:00 AM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.



If Milwaukee voted at the same level as Dane they could probably never have to rely on the rest of the state for anything.

For every 1 lost in the Driftless, right? I don’t subscribe to the Chuck Schumer “winning” philosophy.

Would give the Dems an extra 200,000 voters which would buffer anything lost, so a 2016 election with 200,000 more Dem votes (almost all of them would be in the minority communities) is an easy win.

As nice as that would be, the legislature isn’t Milwaukee-based. The inner city cannot be the only place that matters.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 18, 2018, 09:24:42 AM
Leave it to the Dems to shrink their tent by relying on Milwaukee to save the day. No wonder they are at a risk of turning Wisconsin to the next West Virginia.

Lol.

Also, theoretically we could rely on the ever-growing Dane County to dominate the whole state, but fortunately WI Dems have been doing well in rural areas as well.



If Milwaukee voted at the same level as Dane they could probably never have to rely on the rest of the state for anything.

For every 1 lost in the Driftless, right? I don’t subscribe to the Chuck Schumer “winning” philosophy.

Would give the Dems an extra 200,000 voters which would buffer anything lost, so a 2016 election with 200,000 more Dem votes (almost all of them would be in the minority communities) is an easy win.

As nice as that would be, the legislature isn’t Milwaukee-based. The inner city cannot be the only place that matters.

Duh, it'll also never happen. I'm just pointing out that if the city voted like Dane they would never have to truly worry about Republican control again, they would also get a lot more seats with having that many more active voters which would help with the packing, gerrymander problem the Republicans have put into place.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Duke of York on April 18, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
Tony Evers is going to win the primary regardless.

Personally I think he's the strongest candidate in the general.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 19, 2018, 09:17:42 AM
Wisconsin legend and civil rights leader Vel Phillips passed away. Few of her accomplishments:

— 1st woman, 1st African American elected to Milwaukee Common Council
— 1st woman judge in Milwaukee County
— 1st African-American judge in WI
— 1st African American elected statewide in WI (Secertary of State)

Video on her life (http://www.pbs.org/program/vel-phillips/)

She was a giant.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: junior chįmp on April 19, 2018, 09:50:19 PM
Tony Evers is going to win the primary regardless.

Personally I think he's the strongest candidate in the general.

Tony Evers already looks like a governor.

Meanwhile, take a look at this disgrace:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Duke of York on April 19, 2018, 11:29:10 PM
I hope Tom Barrett doesn't get into the race. I have nothing against the man but he's lost three times for governor. its time to let someone else give it a go. Tony Evers is by far the strongest candidate and I fear Barrett getting in could blow that opportunity.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 20, 2018, 06:58:32 AM
I hope Tom Barrett doesn't get into the race. I have nothing against the man but he's lost three times for governor. its time to let someone else give it a go. Tony Evers is by far the strongest candidate and I fear Barrett getting in could blow that opportunity.

I don't think his entry will have much impact at this point. The field is so unbelievably crowded that I think he would only likely get a couple percentage points like most of the others. That said, I'd rather he didn't jump in because that would just be sad and the field is too huge already. Just let Evers have the nomination so we can focus on beating Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Duke of York on April 20, 2018, 10:52:39 AM
I hope Tom Barrett doesn't get into the race. I have nothing against the man but he's lost three times for governor. its time to let someone else give it a go. Tony Evers is by far the strongest candidate and I fear Barrett getting in could blow that opportunity.

I don't think his entry will have much impact at this point. The field is so unbelievably crowded that I think he would only likely get a couple percentage points like most of the others. That said, I'd rather he didn't jump in because that would just be sad and the field is too huge already. Just let Evers have the nomination so we can focus on beating Scott Walker.

Do you think he has a good chance to beat Walker? He did win his election with something like 65 percent of the vote right so I would imagine he has a lot of crossover appeal.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: mcmikk on April 20, 2018, 06:36:38 PM
I hope Tom Barrett doesn't get into the race. I have nothing against the man but he's lost three times for governor. its time to let someone else give it a go. Tony Evers is by far the strongest candidate and I fear Barrett getting in could blow that opportunity.

I don't think his entry will have much impact at this point. The field is so unbelievably crowded that I think he would only likely get a couple percentage points like most of the others. That said, I'd rather he didn't jump in because that would just be sad and the field is too huge already. Just let Evers have the nomination so we can focus on beating Scott Walker.

Do you think he has a good chance to beat Walker? He did win his election with something like 65 percent of the vote right so I would imagine he has a lot of crossover appeal.

Yes, definitely. Honestly, I think most of the Democratic field could beat Walker, even if very narrowly. I just think Evers would stand the best chance for partially that reason. I think he could perform better in rural areas of the state than past nominees, and I think he's fairly mild and inoffensive enough to appeal more to swing voters than the divisive Walker, and he's also progressive enough to satisfy the base, and I think anger against Walker and Trump will do the trick for firing up the base even if Evers himself doesn't.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Suburbia on April 23, 2018, 07:58:24 PM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 24, 2018, 07:40:29 AM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Politician on April 24, 2018, 10:14:13 AM
This race is Likely Democratic, I don't understand why people consider this Republican-leaning.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 24, 2018, 10:56:21 AM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.

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Milwaukee does itself no favours in this department...


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 24, 2018, 10:57:16 AM
This race is Likely Democratic, I don't understand why people consider this Republican-leaning.

By people who mean just Bronze and Hofoid.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on April 24, 2018, 10:58:28 AM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.

()

Milwaukee does itself no favours in this department...

Yes, yes we know how you think. But unless you're involved in gang activity/actively using drugs and buying them or actively involved in the drug trade the chances of anything really happening to you is not that much. There was a surge of shootings the last two years that is coming down, but these aren't random people shooting each other.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 24, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
When all people can cite is a non-partisan Supreme Court race and Foxconn (which is a huge boost to the GOP in key areas like Racine County), I can't really be interested in calling it a toss-up yet. Not until I see polls consistently show Dems in the lead as well as a drop in Walker's approval rating. The last one had him recover from being underwater. Also, we must remember that Walker can inspire WOW like no other politician in this state can...and in a much higher level than even Trump.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Ebsy on April 24, 2018, 01:39:13 PM
Yeah, I'm sure the people of Racine are very pleased that every other part of the state is subsidizing their corporate welfare development.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 24, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.

()

Milwaukee does itself no favours in this department...

Yes, yes we know how you think. But unless you're involved in gang activity/actively using drugs and buying them or actively involved in the drug trade the chances of anything really happening to you is not that much. There was a surge of shootings the last two years that is coming down, but these aren't random people shooting each other.

you got a link for that chart?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 24, 2018, 02:52:38 PM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.

()

Milwaukee does itself no favours in this department...

Yes, yes we know how you think. But unless you're involved in gang activity/actively using drugs and buying them or actively involved in the drug trade the chances of anything really happening to you is not that much. There was a surge of shootings the last two years that is coming down, but these aren't random people shooting each other.

you got a link for that chart?
https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-wisconsin/


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on April 25, 2018, 10:04:31 AM
Tom Barrett's goal in his life is to be Governor of Wisconsin.

However, I think Wisconsin's anti-Milwaukee sentiment might be a problem for Barrett.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/we-havent-made-any-decisions-mayor-tom-barrett-confirms-hes-considering-another-run-governor/531393002/

Yes, the conservative country has really been brainwashed to think if they step foot in Milwaukee they'll be mugged, raped and then murdered.

()

Milwaukee does itself no favours in this department...

Yes, yes we know how you think. But unless you're involved in gang activity/actively using drugs and buying them or actively involved in the drug trade the chances of anything really happening to you is not that much. There was a surge of shootings the last two years that is coming down, but these aren't random people shooting each other.

you got a link for that chart?
https://www.roadsnacks.net/most-dangerous-cities-in-wisconsin/

Danka


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on May 11, 2018, 08:20:49 AM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2018/05/10/county-panel-endorses-marijuana-referendum-nov-6-ballot/591566002/ (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2018/05/10/county-panel-endorses-marijuana-referendum-nov-6-ballot/591566002/)

Posted it in the pot thread but looks like Milwaukee County will get legal marijuana soon.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on May 11, 2018, 08:29:30 AM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Wiz in Wis on May 11, 2018, 11:19:46 AM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



Way to project your indifference to the race, Paul.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 11, 2018, 11:34:03 AM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



Great news


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Chief Justice Keef on May 11, 2018, 11:37:14 AM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



lmao he ain't even trying


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: MasterJedi on May 11, 2018, 12:42:19 PM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



lmao he ain't even trying

His boomer entitlement, thinks he "deserves" the job.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: KingSweden on May 11, 2018, 02:04:16 PM
Not sure how much we actually have to worry about Paul Soglin winning the nomination:



Great news


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Gass3268 on May 14, 2018, 10:00:59 AM
Dems plan to quickly pivot to general election to avoid being caught flat-footed in Wisconsin governor's race

Quote
MADISON - Seeking to minimize GOP Gov. Scott Walker's ability to take advantage of the jam-packed Democratic primary, strategists have devised a plan to quickly pivot from the primary to the general election.

The winner of the Aug. 14 primary is expected to be depleted of campaign cash by then — giving Walker and his allies an opportunity to fill the airwaves with ads defining the Democratic nominee.

To make sure the Democratic nominee — whoever it is — has at least some cash to respond, state and national Democrats are quietly building a network of donors and a post-primary game plan. The effort is being funded in part by the Democratic Governors Association and is being overseen by Tom Russell, the 2010 campaign manager for former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold.

Source
 (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/14/dems-plan-quickly-pivot-general-election-governors-race/592261002/)
Trying to avoid the 2012 Tommy Thompson situation


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - State Supreme Court Race
Post by: Pollster on May 14, 2018, 11:23:18 AM
Dems plan to quickly pivot to general election to avoid being caught flat-footed in Wisconsin governor's race

Quote
MADISON - Seeking to minimize GOP Gov. Scott Walker's ability to take advantage of the jam-packed Democratic primary, strategists have devised a plan to quickly pivot from the primary to the general election.

The winner of the Aug. 14 primary is expected to be depleted of campaign cash by then — giving Walker and his allies an opportunity to fill the airwaves with ads defining the Democratic nominee.

To make sure the Democratic nominee — whoever it is — has at least some cash to respond, state and national Democrats are quietly building a network of donors and a post-primary game plan. The effort is being funded in part by the Democratic Governors Association and is being overseen by Tom Russell, the 2010 campaign manager for former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold.

Source
 (https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/14/dems-plan-quickly-pivot-general-election-governors-race/592261002/)
Trying to avoid the 2012 Tommy Thompson situation

Best way to do this would be to pull a DeWine-Husted.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Tweet of the Night
Post by: Gass3268 on May 15, 2018, 10:07:00 PM


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Tweet of the Night
Post by: mcmikk on May 16, 2018, 07:00:51 PM


Lol


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Tweet of the Night
Post by: mcmikk on May 16, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
LOL, this Pierre Jacque guy is great. He's going around on Twitter bugging literally every single WI Republican to inquire about some animal sex abuse bill. From what I can gather, he is very passionate about banning horseing.

Oh, and another update: Barack Obama, yes, the one who served as the 44th President of the United States from 2009-2017, follows this dude.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Tweet of the Night
Post by: Doimper on May 16, 2018, 08:16:35 PM
LOL, this Pierre Jacque guy is great. He's going around on Twitter bugging literally every single WI Republican to inquire about some animal sex abuse bill. From what I can gather, he is very passionate about banning horseing.

Oh, and another update: Barack Obama, yes, the one who served as the 44th President of the United States from 2009-2017, follows this dude.

Barack Obama follows a lot of people.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Tweet of the Night
Post by: mcmikk on May 16, 2018, 08:49:33 PM
LOL, this Pierre Jacque guy is great. He's going around on Twitter bugging literally every single WI Republican to inquire about some animal sex abuse bill. From what I can gather, he is very passionate about banning horseing.

Oh, and another update: Barack Obama, yes, the one who served as the 44th President of the United States from 2009-2017, follows this dude.

Barack Obama follows a lot of people.

He gets around.


Title: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Gass3268 on May 17, 2018, 08:14:09 AM



Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Wiz in Wis on May 17, 2018, 09:43:41 AM



Ya'll doubted Mahlon. Ya'll bout to get schooled.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: YE on May 17, 2018, 09:45:27 AM
Why is Tony Evers not getting the union support?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Wiz in Wis on May 17, 2018, 10:10:48 AM
Why is Tony Evers not getting the union support?

Tony has some support in the education unions, I think, but Mahlon has really targetted labor as he is the president of the Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin. He's going to get more support too, I would imagine, from other unions. I think people dramatically underestimate him. Unions + African Americans = serious base.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: redjohn on May 17, 2018, 10:35:50 AM
Mitchell all the way; much better shot of winning against Walker than Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 17, 2018, 12:14:53 PM
Mahlon already has a history of failing. No thanks.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Wiz in Wis on May 17, 2018, 01:09:45 PM
Mahlon already has a history of failing. No thanks.

Meh... he did better, in pure share of vote, than Barett did, and that's his one big race, so hardly a "history" of failure.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: MasterJedi on May 17, 2018, 02:54:10 PM
Mitchell is screwed in the primary since his natural base in the city won't show up for a primary.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 17, 2018, 04:41:12 PM
Mitchell is screwed in the primary since his natural base in the city won't show up for a primary.

They don't show up, period.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 17, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
Doesn't make much of a difference imo, the real people who will decide this election are the angry white #Resistance types in Dane County that will turn out in big numbers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Pollster on May 18, 2018, 12:51:03 PM
A close former colleague of mine has been working for an interest group unaffiliated with any of the campaigns, says that internal numbers show the primary increasingly becoming an Evers-Mitchell race, with Soglin maintaining a stubborn base of support. Vinehout sinks after attacks on her A rating from NRA.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Gass3268 on May 18, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
A close former colleague of mine has been working for an interest group unaffiliated with any of the campaigns, says that internal numbers show the primary increasingly becoming an Evers-Mitchell race, with Soglin maintaining a stubborn base of support. Vinehout sinks after attacks on her A rating from NRA.

Interesting, I still need to decide on a preference/endorsement. Probably between Evers and Mitchell. At this moment I might be leaning Mitchell.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 19, 2018, 05:13:23 PM
Evers has my full backing. He's the best candidate to take on Walker and he cares about education a lot.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 19, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Evers has my full backing. He's the best candidate to take on Walker and he cares about education a lot.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 20, 2018, 03:55:38 PM
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Saw this in a Walker fundraiser email. I'm pretty sure this is a core plank of his reelection strategy. Just rile up the people that were always going to vote for him anyway with caricatures of latte-sipping, kale-eating, pink-hat-wearing, angry Madison liberals.

No way that could possibly backfire in a place where those very people can out-vote the entire rest of the state.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on May 20, 2018, 07:52:30 PM
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Saw this in a Walker fundraiser email. I'm pretty sure this is a core plank of his reelection strategy. Just rile up the people that were always going to vote for him anyway with caricatures of latte-sipping, kale-eating, pink-hat-wearing, angry Madison liberals.

No way that could possibly backfire in a place where those very people can out-vote the entire rest of the state.
umm.. what?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Young Conservative on May 20, 2018, 09:56:08 PM
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Saw this in a Walker fundraiser email. I'm pretty sure this is a core plank of his reelection strategy. Just rile up the people that were always going to vote for him anyway with caricatures of latte-sipping, kale-eating, pink-hat-wearing, angry Madison liberals.

No way that could possibly backfire in a place where those very people can out-vote the entire rest of the state.
This looks like a typical fundraising email for any candidate ever. This isn't news.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 20, 2018, 10:05:21 PM
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Saw this in a Walker fundraiser email. I'm pretty sure this is a core plank of his reelection strategy. Just rile up the people that were always going to vote for him anyway with caricatures of latte-sipping, kale-eating, pink-hat-wearing, angry Madison liberals.

No way that could possibly backfire in a place where those very people can out-vote the entire rest of the state.
This looks like a typical fundraising email for any candidate ever. This isn't news.

It isn't necessarily news, but it's interesting to share as it is representing of a larger concept, that being his idiotic strategy that just attacking imaginary "whiny Madison libturds" over and over again will carry him to victory.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on May 21, 2018, 07:23:56 AM
Mitchell losing the primary will be monumental WRT just how far Big Labor (a term I, of course, use in jest) has fallen as the most potent electoral force in a state like Wisconsin. Shameful!

I’d argue that it’s more that Evers is a much stronger candidate.  Mitchell would’ve been better off biding his time WRT a statewide run.  OTOH, he’s in danger of reaching “has been that never was” status, so maybe he felt it was now or never.  I just think he got unlucky.  A much better test will be whether 1) Walker loses and 2) if so, to what extent organized labor plays a decisive role in his defeat.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Politician on May 21, 2018, 07:44:01 AM
Evers, is right now, the Democrats' best bet to defeat Scott Walker.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: redjohn on May 21, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
Mitchell is screwed in the primary since his natural base in the city won't show up for a primary.

Madison is going to turn out regardless of who the candidate is, and way more people are going to turn out for Mitchell in Milwaukee than Evers.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Tartarus Sauce on May 21, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
We obviously don't have much good polling coming out of the state for the primary, but my impression is that this is very much a race between Evers and Mitchell. Soglin isn't taking it seriously and Vinehout/Wachs don't seem to be gaining much traction. I'm not sure that Soglin will actually end up carrying Dane, but if he does, Mitchell carries Milwaukee, and Evers crushes it everywhere else, would that be the first time that the Democratic nominee for governor won the primary without carrying either Dane or Milwaukee?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Ye We Can on May 21, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Remember when everybody was into Vinehout lmao


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: henster on May 21, 2018, 08:58:40 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 21, 2018, 09:09:31 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: LimoLiberal on May 21, 2018, 09:11:44 PM
Anybody WI posters have a good read on the two June special elections approaching? Cursory glance indicates that Dems have decent candidates in both.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 21, 2018, 09:12:48 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

Black voters in Milwaukee haven't been great on turnout from the Nobama effect. Hard to blame them though. They already are trying so hard to just exist so it's hard to focus on midterm elections at the same time.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: henster on May 21, 2018, 09:29:48 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

I find it hard to believe black voters wouldn't be enthused at the chance to elect the first black Governor in Wisconsin. Also I'm supportive of more dynamic candidates winning primaries than old white guys because the party desperately need to build its bench. Mitchell should he win would be a star and would be a good candidate for other offices in the future.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: YE on May 21, 2018, 09:32:07 PM
Evers has won statewide multiple times and I hate candidates that only appeal to the base like Mitchell.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 21, 2018, 09:32:20 PM
Anybody WI posters have a good read on the two June special elections approaching? Cursory glance indicates that Dems have decent candidates in both.

Caleb Frostman is running in the special election for the 1st State Senate district. He's the Door County Economic Development Corporation’s Executive Director, as well as an avid hunter and Packers fan. The 1st State Senate district went for Trump 56-39 in 2016, and the then-incumbent Republican won 62-38 in 2014.

Here (https://www.calebfrostman.com/) is his website.

And here (http://here) is an ad of his that I like.


Ann Groves Lloyd is a self-described fish fry lover and dog mom, and an alderwoman on the Lodi Common Council. She comes from a farming family, and her grandfather and great-uncle both served in the state government as Progressives. She's running in the 42nd State Assembly district. In 2016 the district went for Trump 55-40 and the Republican incumbent won 59-41.

Here (https://www.annforwisconsin.com/) is her website.

And here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aP8FNtxovc&feature=youtu.be) is an ad of hers that I like.



They both seem like decent and capable candidates, though I don't know anything about their Republican opponents nor if they can overcome their districts' partisan leans. Then again, if we're going off what Patty Schachtner showed us earlier this year, I'd say they have a decent chance at pulling it off.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 21, 2018, 09:33:09 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

I find it hard to believe black voters wouldn't be enthused at the chance to elect the first black Governor in Wisconsin. Also I'm supportive of more dynamic candidates winning primaries than old white guys because the party desperately need to build its bench. Mitchell should he win would be a star and would be a good candidate for other offices in the future.

Fair, but I'd rather elect someone with the best chance of winning. Besides, we could still have a young African-American on the ticket in Mandela Barnes, who's running for Lieutenant Governor.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Holy Unifying Centrist on May 21, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
Energizing the black base of 6.6% is clearly a far better strategy than trying to win over the 80% of white voters


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: MasterJedi on May 22, 2018, 07:24:59 AM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

I find it hard to believe black voters wouldn't be enthused at the chance to elect the first black Governor in Wisconsin. Also I'm supportive of more dynamic candidates winning primaries than old white guys because the party desperately need to build its bench. Mitchell should he win would be a star and would be a good candidate for other offices in the future.

Fair, but I'd rather elect someone with the best chance of winning. Besides, we could still have a young African-American on the ticket in Mandela Barnes, who's running for Lieutenant Governor.

It's not like Mandela Barnes isn't anything other than a Chris Larson puppet anyways.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: mcmikk on May 22, 2018, 07:57:08 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

I find it hard to believe black voters wouldn't be enthused at the chance to elect the first black Governor in Wisconsin. Also I'm supportive of more dynamic candidates winning primaries than old white guys because the party desperately need to build its bench. Mitchell should he win would be a star and would be a good candidate for other offices in the future.

Fair, but I'd rather elect someone with the best chance of winning. Besides, we could still have a young African-American on the ticket in Mandela Barnes, who's running for Lieutenant Governor.

It's not like Mandela Barnes isn't anything other than a Chris Larson puppet anyways.

Shhhh he fulfills the identity quota, he's good enough.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - WI AFL-CIO endorses Mitchell
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on May 22, 2018, 10:22:37 PM
Mitchell would very likely energize black turnout in Milwaukee plus high turnout Madison is a good recipe for victory. Even if he loses to Walker it would be beneficial to Baldwin to have better turnout out of Milwaukee.

Good luck with that one.

I find it hard to believe black voters wouldn't be enthused at the chance to elect the first black Governor in Wisconsin. Also I'm supportive of more dynamic candidates winning primaries than old white guys because the party desperately need to build its bench. Mitchell should he win would be a star and would be a good candidate for other offices in the future.
Here we go with the box-checking crap that led to 2016.


Title: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: Gass3268 on May 23, 2018, 10:09:18 AM
!!!

Foxconn to cut back initial investment in $10bn Wisconsin plant (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Foxconn-turns-to-smalltomedium-displays-at-Wisconsin-plant)


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: Dr. Arch on May 23, 2018, 10:17:45 AM
!!!

Foxconn to cut back initial investment in $10bn Wisconsin plant (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Foxconn-turns-to-smalltomedium-displays-at-Wisconsin-plant)

This'll roll over well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: KingSweden on May 23, 2018, 10:52:07 AM
!!!

Foxconn to cut back initial investment in $10bn Wisconsin plant (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Foxconn-turns-to-smalltomedium-displays-at-Wisconsin-plant)

This'll roll over well.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: RussFeingoldWasRobbed on May 23, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
Soglin is a no go. He strikes me as a potential power hungry tyrant in the mold of Hugo Chavez. The homeless thing really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Mitchell definitely has my vote.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: KingSweden on May 23, 2018, 01:00:27 PM
Soglin is a no go. He strikes me as a potential power hungry tyrant in the mold of Hugo Chavez. The homeless thing really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Mitchell definitely has my vote.

I mean Soglin is horrible for a variety of reasons but comparing him to Hugo Freaking Chavez seems a stretch.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: Virginiá on May 23, 2018, 01:08:29 PM
!!!

Foxconn to cut back initial investment in $10bn Wisconsin plant (https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Foxconn-turns-to-smalltomedium-displays-at-Wisconsin-plant)

This'll roll over well.

The $10 billion investment is still the same but...:

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Foxconn's shift to making diversified displays for cars, personal computers, tablets, mobile devices, televisions and niche products represents a change from its previous plan to churn out large panels, mainly for TVs, at the new plant. Production of large panels would have required a more complete local supply chain and greater initial investment in equipment.

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Supply chain sources suggest the incomplete local supply chain was a big obstacle to Foxconn's previous plan to churn out large panels from a 10.5th-generation production line for TV screens in Wisconsin. "It would require other companies like Corning to also set up a glass substrate facility nearby, as it's almost impossible to ship fragile, huge-size glass materials from a distant place," one person said.

So this reduces the local jobs effect, which arguably already wasn't worth the huge investment from Wisconsin.

Companies from abroad must love America for "investment." There are so many morally bankrupt politicians desperate to cling to power that they'll plow however much taxpayer money into subsidies and cash bribes to get JOBS JOBS JOBS, regardless of how useful/feasible the whole scheme is, or how much more efficient it would have been to just put the taxpayer money into more direct investments. And to sweeten the pot, American voters are so stupidly partisan that they'll rarely ever get rid of these worthless morons who make these deals in all but the worst situations, so these investments are safe :]!

At some point society needs to adjust the way we teach our economic system to children to factor in the politicians that funnel massive million/billion dollar bribes to corporations to generate mediocre jobs that pay less than what the public investment cost. It's become a major component of our broken system.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: Suburbia on May 23, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
Can Mitchell appeal to the WOW area of Wisconsin, you know the area where there is a lot of racial tensions from Milwaukee?


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: RussFeingoldWasRobbed on May 23, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
Soglin is a no go. He strikes me as a potential power hungry tyrant in the mold of Hugo Chavez. The homeless thing really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Mitchell definitely has my vote.

I mean Soglin is horrible for a variety of reasons but comparing him to Hugo Freaking Chavez seems a stretch.
Okay I shouldnt have compared him to Chavez but what I meant is that I think he's blowing smoke and mirrors. 


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Foxconn to cut back initial investment!!
Post by: KingSweden on May 23, 2018, 02:29:05 PM
Soglin is a no go. He strikes me as a potential power hungry tyrant in the mold of Hugo Chavez. The homeless thing really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Mitchell definitely has my vote.

I mean Soglin is horrible for a variety of reasons but comparing him to Hugo Freaking Chavez seems a stretch.
Okay I shouldnt have compared him to Chavez but what I meant is that I think he's blowing smoke and mirrors. 


I don’t disagree.


Title: Re: Wisconsin Megathread
Post by: Virginiá on September 25, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
Since this went way over 2k, the last 20 pages has been merged with a newer megathread and this one is now locked.

New thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=302354.0