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Title: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: Frodo on February 07, 2005, 03:55:43 AM
here is a possible model that the United States should at least consider as a viable alternative to the ongoing War on Drugs:

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Canada has a radical plan for social costs of drug use

By MIKE LEWIS
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

VANCOUVER, B.C. -- Gina R. is small and sick, 100 pounds of furtive need. Sitting in a coffee shop in East Downtown, her collar covers the abscess in her neck where a handful of times this day -- every day -- she injects the heroin that buys her time as it robs it.

She admits she gets heroin money "however I can." This includes panhandling and selling sex, drugs and whatever else she's able to acquire. Articulate and saddled with an outstanding arrest warrant, Gina R. knows her nine-year, $200-a-day habit creates problems beyond her own.
 
"I'd like not to do this," said the 40-year-old Vancouver native who has failed attempts at rehab and is HIV-positive. "I see what happens to people. I know what they do to feed the monkey."

The cops who patrol this neighborhood, one of the poorest in Canada, know this, too. Same for the health workers who track the alarming infection rates of HIV and viral hepatitis in the swath surrounding the intersection of Main and Hastings, nicknamed Pain and Wastings.

The problem had proved so intractable that the Canadian government is on the cusp of a radical plan, the first of its type in North America, to solve a handful of opiate-addiction problems by perpetuating one of them -- the addiction. Put simply, local health officials here are about to join the ranks of heroin dealers.

Called the North American Opiate Medications Initiative and funded by the federal Canadian Institute of Health Research, the $8 million program will allow health officials in Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto to distribute for free daily doses of heroin to a small, screened group of longtime addicts.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/211015_heroin07.html


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2005, 04:04:14 AM
Interesting idea.  At first I had no idea what they were hoping to accomplish with this, but after giving it some thought it might have some sound economic theory behind it, in that, given that the price of drugs tends to dramatically increase or decrease with even relatively small decreases or increases in the quantity available, they may be hoping to decrease the price of heroin and, in doing so, reduce the amount of heroin-related crime that occurs.

We'll have to wait and see how this develops.


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: Bono on February 07, 2005, 05:41:40 AM
Interesting idea.  At first I had no idea what they were hoping to accomplish with this, but after giving it some thought it might have some sound economic theory behind it, in that, given that the price of drugs tends to dramatically increase or decrease with even relatively small decreases or increases in the quantity available, they may be hoping to decrease the price of heroin and, in doing so, reduce the amount of heroin-related crime that occurs.

We'll have to wait and see how this develops.

What's the marijuana party position on this issue? ;D


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: minionofmidas on February 07, 2005, 07:15:16 AM
We have that in Frankfurt too.
Unlike the earlier-installed, similar Methadone program (which also still exists), this works.


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: Erc on February 07, 2005, 03:40:30 PM
The price of Heroin drops, and the quantity demanded increases.

Good job, Canada!


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: opebo on February 07, 2005, 04:19:56 PM
The price of Heroin drops, and the quantity demanded increases.

Good job, Canada!

What's wrong with heroin?


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 07, 2005, 07:27:29 PM
The price of Heroin drops, and the quantity demanded increases.

Good job, Canada!

What's wrong with heroin?

It has some minor side effects like death.


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: minionofmidas on February 09, 2005, 07:16:59 AM
The price of Heroin drops, and the quantity demanded increases.

Good job, Canada!

What's wrong with heroin?

It has some minor side effects like death.
...actually, not under controlled circumstances. Heroin Illegalisation has some minor side effects like death.
Legal heroin still has side effects that I'd rather not see, though...
As per Erc: Actually, no. The street trade in heroin is basically killed off at one swoop. Numbers of new users are the lowest since the 1960s these days.


Title: Re: Canada's Radical Plan on Dealing With Illicit Drugs
Post by: Platypus on February 09, 2005, 07:57:07 AM
The main point of this is to reduce HIV infection.

In Zurich, they introduced something similar. Consumption remained about the same, but new cases of HIV dropped very significantly. Does this mean I approve? Undecided.