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Title: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: retromike22 on November 19, 2012, 11:48:25 PM
I'm guessing Alexander and Graham, possibly Collins.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: MaxQue on November 19, 2012, 11:51:05 PM
Hopefully Susan Collins, that will make +1 for Dems.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: morgieb on November 20, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
Graham. I reckon Cochran might as well...there's some similarities between him and Lugar.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 20, 2012, 03:09:28 AM
I think Cochran should be fine.

Price and Gingrey are considering running against Chambliss, though neither of them exactly strike me as spring chickens.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: smoltchanov on November 20, 2012, 03:20:09 AM
Collins (though it would be a suicide, no one else can win this seat for Republicans) or Graham. Alexander? Possible, but less likely..


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 20, 2012, 03:20:56 AM
Hopefully Mitch McConnell.

And Mike Johanns is from Nebraska, not South Dakota.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Svensson on November 20, 2012, 03:52:25 AM
I still maintain that Saxby Chambliss is going down to Herman Cain.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on November 20, 2012, 11:13:45 AM
Graham, maybe Cochran (if he runs for reelection and gets a strong primary challenge, he could be in trouble), and maybe Chambliss if Price runs against him (I read that Gingrey has quietly made it known that he isn't going to run and even if Price runs, Chambliss would still be favored).  I suspect that most of the damage done by the tea-party this cycle will be done by making the party behave in a highly obstructionist manner and causing the party to nominate weaker candidates for Democratic Senate seats.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on November 20, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Donerail on November 20, 2012, 11:55:53 AM
McConnell maybe. Chambliss maybe.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Incipimus iterum on November 20, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
Lindsey Graham, and Maybe John Cornyn , and Susie Collins


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on November 20, 2012, 04:21:19 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
He'll never be forgiven for the lies he told about Senator Cleland. Too bad Democrats have literally no one to run against him.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on November 20, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
Graham, the state GOP has a deep bench there. Dunno if any of them will actually run though.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: CLARENCE 2015! on November 20, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
He'll never be forgiven for the lies he told about Senator Cleland. Too bad Democrats have literally no one to run against him.
Too bad- hope a Republican challenges him in the primary then...


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Incipimus iterum on November 20, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
Graham, the state GOP has a deep bench there. Dunno if any of them will actually run though.
well in 2008 Graham beat a primary Challanger by 66% to 33% so who knows
http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=212760


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 20, 2012, 04:56:35 PM
Graham, the state GOP has a deep bench there. Dunno if any of them will actually run though.
well in 2008 Graham beat a primary Challanger by 66% to 33% so who knows
http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=212760


That was before the prominence of the tea party in SC politics though.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Donerail on November 20, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
He'll never be forgiven for the lies he told about Senator Cleland. Too bad Democrats have literally no one to run against him.

Barrow maybe?


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Incipimus iterum on November 20, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Graham, the state GOP has a deep bench there. Dunno if any of them will actually run though.
well in 2008 Graham beat a primary Challanger by 66% to 33% so who knows
http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=212760


That was before the prominence of the tea party in SC politics though.
ah Good point


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on November 20, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...

It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on November 20, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
He'll never be forgiven for the lies he told about Senator Cleland. Too bad Democrats have literally no one to run against him.

Barrow maybe?
He'd be better off challenging Deal for the Governor's Mansion.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Oak Hills on November 20, 2012, 07:40:14 PM
I honestly can't see any of these Senators not being renominated if they run.  Though I can't speak specifically regarding most of them, I'll eat crow if anyone even comes close to unseating Alexander.  The Tea Party tried to knock off the less entrenched Bob Corker in the last election, and he blew past the opposition with over eighty percent of the vote.  There is NO WAY Alexander loses re-election.  Who 
would the Tea Party run against him? Diane Black?  I dare her to try.  She'll lose, and it won't even be close.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 20, 2012, 10:31:26 PM
Graham because dens have zero chance of winning seat.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Barnes on November 20, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
He'll never be forgiven for the lies he told about Senator Cleland. Too bad Democrats have literally no one to run against him.

Barrow maybe?
He'd be better off challenging Deal for the Governor's Mansion.

Indeed, he might just have a shot against Deal - but that would be the best scenario for him, an open seat is still unattainable, I think.

Also, I agree about Chambliss - there is nothing he can ever do to make up for that vile campaign.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on November 20, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
Certainly nothing is impossible, but those that are clicking "Lamar Alexander" must not be very familiar with TN politics. :)


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 21, 2012, 01:11:43 AM
I voted for Graham and nothing else - I think Chambliss could face a challenge though. I doubt Collins loses, the only question up there is whether or not she decides to run.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 21, 2012, 07:23:57 AM
I still maintain that Saxby Chambliss is going down to Herman Cain.

I hope! When he was leaving Temple, a few friends and I were in a alley, waiting with his car and Mark Block/his cigarette. As Herman jumped into his vehicle, I yelled, "Run for Senate!" He didn't decline.  :)



Certainly nothing is impossible, but those that are clicking "Lamar Alexander" must not be very familiar with TN politics. :)

A pity. I'd love to see a Republican pick up there.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 21, 2012, 03:36:40 PM
Roll Call has an article on GA. (http://www.rollcall.com/news/speculation_churns_on_chambliss_challenger-219314-1.html?zkPrintable=true)

In addition to Price, Broun has left the door open.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on November 21, 2012, 03:40:53 PM
Roll Call has an article on GA. (http://www.rollcall.com/news/speculation_churns_on_chambliss_challenger-219314-1.html?zkPrintable=true)

In addition to Price, Broun has left the door open.

Ugh. Broun makes Akin look sane.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Svensson on November 21, 2012, 04:23:28 PM
Roll Call has an article on GA. (https://kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/suvloyzdh/sopq/p1/news/speculation_churns_on_chambliss_challenger-219314-1.html?zkPrintable=true)

In addition to Price, Broun has left the door open.

Ugh. Broun makes Akin look sane.

I'm telling you, The Cain Train needs to flatten all of these upstarts. >:(


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 21, 2012, 06:34:35 PM
Karen Handel is also considering a run. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/karen-handel-senate_n_2171170.html)


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on November 22, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
Karen Handel is also considering a run. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/karen-handel-senate_n_2171170.html)

Hopefully she does- I was quite disappointed when she lost to Deal in the primary.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Ronnie on November 22, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
Karen Handel is also considering a run. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/21/karen-handel-senate_n_2171170.html)

I'm disappointed that she essentially apologized for her membership in the Log Cabin Republican group.  But she'd be much better than Saxby Shameless.

Just for reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSRbSnrtOHo


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 22, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
Nothing would please me more then Chickenhawk Chambliss losing reelection...
Same. I also want to see McConnell and Graham go down.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 23, 2012, 09:57:49 AM
Chambliss is very publicly discussing possibly voting to raise taxes and how that means he's going to be targeted in the primary. I didn't think a high profile primary was a real option there but now it looks likely. Come on, Cain!


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: GMantis on November 23, 2012, 05:15:34 PM
Graham is very likely. Other possibilities are Cornyn and Chambliss. Susan Collins is exactly the Senator the Tea Party would love to challenge, but I don't think even they are that delusional.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Frodo on November 23, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
Chambliss is very publicly discussing possibly voting to raise taxes and how that means he's going to be targeted in the primary. I didn't think a high profile primary was a real option there but now it looks likely. Come on, Cain!

Has Grover Norquist ever considered running for Congress?


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Indy Texas on November 23, 2012, 08:09:49 PM
Saxby Chambliss has committed the mortal sin of defying Grover Norquist. --> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84176.html?hp=l4 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84176.html?hp=l4)

I still hate him for the nasty way he ran against Max Cleland, but as a legislator he is probably the sanest Republican officeholder in Georgia. Their whole House GOP delegation is awful and Nathan Deal is a Dixiecrat convert. The last really solid Republican they had was Paul Coverdell.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on November 24, 2012, 11:20:58 AM
Saxby Chambliss has committed the mortal sin of defying Grover Norquist. --> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84176.html?hp=l4 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84176.html?hp=l4)

I still hate him for the nasty way he ran against Max Cleland, but as a legislator he is probably the sanest Republican officeholder in Georgia. Their whole House GOP delegation is awful and Nathan Deal is a Dixiecrat convert. The last really solid Republican they had was Paul Coverdell.

Isakson is much better.  He seems a lot like Chambliss ideologically and isn't an evil man who got elected by trying to destroy the reputation on a genuine war hero.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Mehmentum on November 24, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
I don't know about uncumbent senators, but I could easily see tea party candidates ruining GOP chances in Arkansas, Loiusiana, North Carolina, etc.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 24, 2012, 06:25:27 PM
If Cochran doesn't retire, I believe he will face a Tea Party challenge, but I give him a 2/3 chance of surviving it.

If Cochran retires, I imagine the Tea Party candidate will defeat whichever of the Three Stooges from the House runs for the seat.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Horus on November 24, 2012, 08:22:13 PM
Chambliss, Graham and Alexander. Collins will most likely retire.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Vosem on November 24, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
Chambliss and Graham are the only ones that could conceivably lose absent some sort of scandal. Plenty are at risk of some kind of challenge, though (Alexander, Cochran, McConnell, Cornyn, and Risch all could receive a hyped challenge, but none of them will work; I highly doubt that'll happen to any of the first three, though, and I doubt there would be any hype in Idaho. A TP challenge to Cornyn seems very possible but I'm very confident he'll survive. Idaho is the darkhorse possibility that no one notices, a la Alaska 2010).


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Indy Texas on November 24, 2012, 09:26:25 PM
If Cochran doesn't retire, I believe he will face a Tea Party challenge, but I give him a 2/3 chance of surviving it.

If Cochran retires, I imagine the Tea Party candidate will defeat whichever of the Three Stooges from the House runs for the seat.

Thad Cochran is basically an understated version of Robert Byrd - he sends home plenty of "gifts" for his state, but he isn't narcissistic enough to put his name all over them like Byrd did. I think most Mississippi Republicans are aware that were it not for federal dollars being redistributed towards them, their state would be even more of a third world country than it is, even if they don't say it out loud.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on November 24, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Depends on who runs in GA/SC. If there are serious candidates like Tom Price in GA or Tom Davis in SC then that's one thing. Even then I'd put odds on the incumbents- Chambliss more than Graham, since Chambliss keeps a lower profile.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 24, 2012, 09:36:51 PM
I suppose he's also less obviously gay.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Meeker on November 24, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
Chambliss is almost begging for a primary challenge at this point.

I highly doubt McConnell will have a serious primary opponent. Paul seems to have made friends with him.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Donerail on November 24, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
Chambliss is almost begging for a primary challenge at this point.

I highly doubt McConnell will have a serious primary opponent. Paul seems to have made friends with him.

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I believe Mitch just hired as his campaign manager one of Rand's top aides from 2010 (who also served as a top aide to Ron this year). Rand described it as "very good", saying that "We're excited about it. I think Jesse will do a great job for him." Mitch said that "we've established a very good working relationship." It's not really a new development; Mitch's chief of staff Josh Holmes advised Rand's 2010 campaign, and there was that Frankfort unity rally back then too. That's why Mitch was featured in Ron's tribute video at the RNC, and why Rand was the featured guest at a McConnell fundraiser in March (followed by Mitch headlining a RAND PAC fundraiser later).


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: TNF on November 24, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
Graham is so gone it's not even funny.

McConnell will not be primaried. The Kentucky GOP is his machine. Without Mitch McConnell, it doesn't exist.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: stegosaurus on November 25, 2012, 08:29:43 PM
Unfortunately, all of these candidates are a target. Tea Party candidacies spring up unannounced and without the help of name recognition. It can happen to any incumbent Republican, for completely unexplained accusations of lacking conservative credentials, and that is why it is dangerous to our electoral viability in the future. The Republican electorate is killing it's own party, almost enough to make one desire killing the primary/caucus hassle and picking our candidates in smoke filled rooms. It would certainly save a lot of resources.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 26, 2012, 04:58:55 PM
Price and Handel seem to be coordinating their efforts. (http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/26/karen-handel-vs-saxby-chambliss-its-possible/)

If Price runs for Senate, Handel could run in the open CD6.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: Miles on November 30, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
 Apparently, some were trying to talk Erick Erickson of RedState.com into running in GA. (http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/erickson-wont-primary-chambliss-84445.html?hp=f2) He's passing.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on November 30, 2012, 10:11:22 AM
I never believed that- he likes his bullhorn too much, plus RS would be absolutely unreadable if he did.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: nolesfan2011 on December 01, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
Collins and Graham, Graham may just retire to avoid losing (SC GOP is too far right for him at this point), and Collins may have an issue where she appeals to the Maine electorate as a whole, but not the ME GOP electorate.. same issue Mike Castle had in Delaware..

I think Alexander (and Sessions) hold only because they have been around a while, aren't terribly unpopular, and the TN GOP isn't that Tea Party controlled( Corker didn't face any significant opposition)

I'm guessing Alexander and Graham, possibly Collins.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: RogueBeaver on December 01, 2012, 10:01:02 PM
Sessions is also very conservative.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: nclib on December 01, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
I voted for just Lindsey Graham. Outside of Maine, I don't think any state's Tea Party candidate will put the race in play for the Dems--GA and KY would be the only ones who would make it close.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: old timey villain on December 02, 2012, 03:46:21 AM
Graham, maybe Cochran (if he runs for reelection and gets a strong primary challenge, he could be in trouble), and maybe Chambliss if Price runs against him (I read that Gingrey has quietly made it known that he isn't going to run and even if Price runs, Chambliss would still be favored).  I suspect that most of the damage done by the tea-party this cycle will be done by making the party behave in a highly obstructionist manner and causing the party to nominate weaker candidates for Democratic Senate seats.

I have a shocking confession to make about Tom Price. Two years ago I was invited to sit in the President's box at the UGA homecoming game. I was at the buffet and I ran into Tom Price, and being the assertive kinda guy I am I approached him and asked what had happened to the Republican party. He told me he wasn't concerned with sideshow social issues and obstructionism, he only cared about fixing the economy and shrinking the size of government. I was impressed so I liked his page on Facebook a few days later. I just got around to unliking it, as his political grandstanding is exactly the kind of thing he told me he wasn't interested in. He's obviously preparing for a 2014 challenge to Saxby and I hope that if he's successful, the voters won't be fooled like I was. He's a fraud, and his district really isn't as conservative as he thinks it is. I hope his demise comes quickly.


Title: Re: Which GOP Senator(s) Will Lose to a Tea Party Challenger in 2014?
Post by: badgate on December 02, 2012, 03:54:28 AM
I voted for Graham and nothing else - I think Chambliss could face a challenge though. I doubt Collins loses, the only question up there is whether or not she decides to run.

Well she certainly isn't as "disgusted" as Sen. Snowe was by her own party...part of me wonders if she's trying to avoid a primary challenge