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Title: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 20, 2012, 04:56:54 AM
He won the North Slope 66.5 to 29.25.

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=493148


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: BaldEagle1991 on November 20, 2012, 06:48:49 AM
Asterisk: Native Alaskans.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on November 20, 2012, 11:53:36 AM
Natives.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: DrScholl on November 20, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
Huge swing, considering that he lost that area by about 11% in 2008.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: memphis on November 20, 2012, 01:30:47 PM
He won the North Slope 66.5 to 29.25.

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=493148
I would have thought the oil interests would be solidly GOP. Maybe they don't want the competition from Keystone XL?


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Jackson on November 20, 2012, 04:13:18 PM
Given the greatly decreased turnout from 2008, I don't think people should think that this result is particularly indicative of anything.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: minionofmidas on November 20, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
With the vote count now apparently complete but not yet certified, Alaska has 30k fewer votes cast than 2008, with Obama's vote number essentially unchanged.

D40 can be used for comparisons easily because it was barely changed in redistricting, only losing Shishmaref. (Other rural districts were changed massively, by contrast - essentially one rural district was eliminated.)

2008: McCain 2686, Obama 2137, other 177
2012: Obama 2709, Romney 1337, other 167.

Hm-hmmm. (And yes, that's actually a greater turnout decline than statewide. It's just not all that there is to see here.)


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Skill and Chance on November 20, 2012, 04:37:03 PM
It really looks like a pro-gun Democrat could compete here in 2016 or 2020.  Will be interesting to see if anyone tries.  Then again, it's only 3 EV and a day's plane flight from the swing states.  Anyway, it at least looks like Begich has a better leg to stand on than Pryor or Landrieu in 2014.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 20, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
Even after this?

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Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on November 20, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
That's pretty crazy, yeah.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on November 20, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
I was watching a documentary recently about how Native Alaskan communities are being affected by global warming.  I wonder if that played a role in how they voted.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 21, 2012, 02:45:03 AM
Was anyone expecting the land area of county equivalents won by Obama to increase? Because it probably did.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: minionofmidas on November 21, 2012, 05:05:45 PM
lol Emmonak.

(Note: 91% Yupik village near the mouth of the Yukon. The per capita income for the city was $9,069 in 2000.
wikipedia: "In the winter of 2008-2009, a combination of a cold winter and increased fuel prices led to economic hardship. Due to a collapse in local king salmon fisheries in 2008[citation needed], residents were unable to generate enough economic capital to buy increased amounts of heating oil at higher prices. On January 10, 2009 Nicholas C. Tucker, Sr., a town elder, circulated a letter asking for aid. The letter was circulated by Alaska bloggers, where it was picked up by national media.[citation needed]")

2012 result: Obama 72%, Stein 24%, Romney 1.6% (3 votes), Johnson 1.6%, one write-in.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on November 21, 2012, 07:04:14 PM
lol Emmonak.

(Note: 91% Yupik village near the mouth of the Yukon. The per capita income for the city was $9,069 in 2000.
wikipedia: "In the winter of 2008-2009, a combination of a cold winter and increased fuel prices led to economic hardship. Due to a collapse in local king salmon fisheries in 2008[citation needed], residents were unable to generate enough economic capital to buy increased amounts of heating oil at higher prices. On January 10, 2009 Nicholas C. Tucker, Sr., a town elder, circulated a letter asking for aid. The letter was circulated by Alaska bloggers, where it was picked up by national media.[citation needed]")

2012 result: Obama 72%, Stein 24%, Romney 1.6% (3 votes), Johnson 1.6%, one write-in.

That doesn't surprise me.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Badger on November 22, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
lol Emmonak.

(Note: 91% Yupik village near the mouth of the Yukon. The per capita income for the city was $9,069 in 2000.
wikipedia: "In the winter of 2008-2009, a combination of a cold winter and increased fuel prices led to economic hardship. Due to a collapse in local king salmon fisheries in 2008[citation needed], residents were unable to generate enough economic capital to buy increased amounts of heating oil at higher prices. On January 10, 2009 Nicholas C. Tucker, Sr., a town elder, circulated a letter asking for aid. The letter was circulated by Alaska bloggers, where it was picked up by national media.[citation needed]")

2012 result: Obama 72%, Stein 24%, Romney 1.6% (3 votes), Johnson 1.6%, one write-in.

That doesn't surprise me.

Why not? It surprises me. I assumed most AK Greens were anchorage and Juneau white neo-hippies.


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on November 23, 2012, 12:33:11 AM
I mentioned why above.  The lifestyle of native Alaskans has been affected by global warming


Title: Re: Obama won rural Alaska
Post by: Person Man on November 25, 2012, 11:06:01 AM
It will be interesting to see how as Global Warming gets worse, how it affects mainland Natives and those reliant on the Tourist Industry. Maybe this will eventually swing a lot of rural, native and agrian interests Blue in the coming cycles....especially as Obama is "outsourcing" energy jobs from dirty energy in the Coal and Oil sectors to clean ones in Wind, Solar and Natural Gas. That's why places like ND, Wyoming and WV were even redder than usual and why NW Colo swung so hard to Romney. It was a last ditch effort to save the Dirty Industry Energy.