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Title: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 01:07:21 am
Just respond next to each name Approve or Disapprove like other surveys don in the past. For these:

George W. Bush
Jaques Chirac
Tony Blair
Jose Zapatero
Vladimir Putin
Hugo Chavez
Iyad Allawi
Ariel Sharon
Mahmoud Abbas
Osama bin Laden
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva
Islam Karimonv
Saparmurat Niyazov
Fidel Castro
Robert Mugabe
Kim Jong-Il
Hu Jintao
bandit73 (as he is president of New America)


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 01:09:14 am
my answers:

George W. Bush - disapprove
Jaques Chirac - approve, but largely for the wrong reasons. I just like how he gets under Republicans' skin so well.
Tony Blair - disapprove
Jose Zapatero - approve
Vladimir Putin - disapprove
Hugo Chavez - approve
Iyad Allawi - disapprove
Ariel Sharon - disapprove, but not as much as I have in the past
Mahmoud Abbas - approve
Osama bin Laden  - disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - approved
Islam Karimonv - disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov - disapprove
Fidel Castro - disapprove
Robert Mugabe - disapprove
Kim Jong-Il - disapprove
Hu Jintao - disapprove
bandit73 - approve


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Platypus on February 18, 2005, 01:15:42 am
1-5 is dissaprove, 6-10 is approve; but on different scales. Higher the better.

George W. Bush 3
Jaques Chirac 3
Tony Blair 6
Jose Zapatero 4
Vladimir Putin 2
Hugo Chavez 2
Iyad Allawi 3
Ariel Sharon 4
Mahmoud Abbas 4
Osama bin Laden 0
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva 5
Islam Karimonv 1
Saparmurat Niyazov dunno them
Fidel Castro 2
Robert Mugabe 1
Kim Jong-Il 1
Hu Jintao 3

John Howard 4

I don't like politicians, especially ones who want to become national leaders.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Frodo on February 18, 2005, 01:19:48 am
George W. Bush    -disapprove 4

Jaques Chirac       -approve 6

Tony Blair             -disapprove 2

Jose Zapatero      -approve 10

Vladimir Putin       -disapprove 2

Hugo Chavez       -approve 8

Iyad Allawi           -disapprove 2

Ariel Sharon         -disapprove 3

Mahmoud Abbas  -jury still out

Osama bin Laden -disapprove 0

Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -approve 8

Islam Karimonv      -disapprove 0

Saparmurat Niyazov -disapprove 0

Fidel Castro              -disapprove 3

Robert Mugabe         -disapprove 2

Kim Jong-Il                -disapprove 0

Hu Jintao                   -approve 7


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 01:20:28 am
Saparmurat Niyazov dunno them

he's the guy in Turkmenistan that renamed a month after himself and ordered an ice palace constructed in the middle of the desert.

I should also add bandit as he's the president of New America :)


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Gabu on February 18, 2005, 01:23:34 am
George W. Bush - Approve (barely, but I don't have strong feelings against him at the moment, so I guess I approve)
Jaques Chirac - Disapprove
Tony Blair - Approve
Jose Zapatero - Approve
Vladimir Putin - Disapprove
Hugo Chavez - Got me
Iyad Allawi - Got me
Ariel Sharon - Approve (barely)
Mahmoud Abbas - Approve
Osama bin Laden - Uh, disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - Got me
Islam Karimonv - Got me
Saparmurat Niyazov - Got me
Fidel Castro - Disapprove
Robert Mugabe - Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il - Uh, disapprove
Hu Jintao - Disapprove

Anyone that I wrote "got me" beside I really don't have enough information about to make a decision one way or another.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 01:26:33 am
George W. Bush - Approve (barely, but I don't have strong feelings against him at the moment, so I guess I approve)
Jaques Chirac - Disapprove
Tony Blair - Approve
Jose Zapatero - Approve
Vladimir Putin - Disapprove
Hugo Chavez - Got me
Iyad Allawi - Got me
Ariel Sharon - Approve (barely)
Mahmoud Abbas - Approve
Osama bin Laden - Uh, disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - Got me
Islam Karimonv - Got me
Saparmurat Niyazov - Got me
Fidel Castro - Disapprove
Robert Mugabe - Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il - Uh, disapprove
Hu Jintao - Disapprove

Anyone that I wrote "got me" beside I really don't have enough information about to make a decision one way or another.

Islam Karimov is the dictator of Uzbekistan and a very good friend of Bush. He enjoys executing political prisoners by boiling them alive.

See what I said about Niyazov above.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: AuH2O on February 18, 2005, 01:51:10 am
Dislike all except Putin.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Silent Hunter on February 18, 2005, 03:36:32 am
George W. Bush- Approve
Jaques Chirac- Disapprove
Tony Blair- Approve
Jose Zapatero- Approve (well he is a Socialist)
Vladimir Putin-Disapprove
Hugo Chavez-Disapprove
Iyad Allawi-Well, the Iraqis have spoken on that
Ariel Sharon- Barely approve
Mahmoud Abbas- Barely approve
Osama bin Laden- Disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva- No idea
Islam Karimonv- Disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov-Disapprove
Fidel Castro-Disapprove
Robert Mugabe-Disapprove (and we shouldn't be playing cricket with him)
Kim Jong-Il- Disapprove
Hu Jintao-Disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on February 18, 2005, 05:39:31 am
Here's the ones I know

Bush  - strongly disapprove
Chirac - weakly approve
Blair - disapprove
Putin - strongly disapprove
Chavez -  very weakly approve
Allawi  - disapprove
Sharon - disapprove
Abbas - neutral
Bin Laden - very strongly disapprove
da Silva - strongly approve
Karimonv - strongly disapprove
Castro - disapprove
Mugabe - disapprove
Jong-II - strongly disapprove
bandit73 - strongly approve


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 18, 2005, 05:57:41 am
George W. Bush: Disapprove (but not to the level of hatred)
Jaques Chirac: Strongly Disapprove
Tony Blair: Approve of the general record of his government, but he ignores Parliament too much. That's been changing recently and he's been much more humble in general (thank you Nick Brown and Clive Soley!)
Jose Zapatero: His handling of the Basque thing is idiotic. I had hoped for better. Neutral.
Vladimir Putin: Strongly Disapprove
Hugo Chavez: Strongly Disapprove
Iyad Allawi: Anyone else think he looks a wee bit crooked? He's as good as out of office now though
Ariel Sharon: I'm suprised to be saying this, but Approve
Mahmoud Abbas: See Sharon, Ariel.
Osama bin Laden: Strongly, strongly, strongly, strongly disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: Approve
Islam Karimonv: Strongly, strongly, strongly disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov: I still have trouble believing that he's real. Answer is the same as Karimov, Islam
Fidel Castro: Strongly, strongly disapprove
Robert Mugabe: See Niyaziv, Saparmurat Turmenbashi
Kim Jong-Il: See Bin Laden, Osama
Hu Jintao: See Mugabe, Robert
bandit73: He's not as bad as is often made out, but he'd make a very bad President. He's be fun as a State Rep though (chances of him getting elected to anything in his county is remote though)


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Michael Z on February 18, 2005, 06:13:41 am
1 - strongly disapprove
10 - strong approve

George W. Bush -- 4
Jaques Chirac -- 5
Tony Blair -- 5
Jose Zapatero -- 7
Vladimir Putin -- 5
Hugo Chavez -- 4
Iyad Allawi -- 5
Ariel Sharon -- 4
Mahmoud Abbas -- 7
Osama bin Laden -- 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -- 5
Islam Karimonv -- 1
Saparmurat Niyazov -- 2
Fidel Castro -- 4
Robert Mugabe -- 2
Kim Jong-Il -- 1
Hu Jintao -- 6
bandit73 -- 10 ;-)


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Umengus on February 18, 2005, 06:25:05 am
scale: 0-10 (10 is best)

George W. Bush: strongly disapprove 2,9
Jaques Chirac: disapprove 4,5
Tony Blair: disapprove 4
Jose Zapatero: neutral 5
Vladimir Putin: disapprove 3,5
Hugo Chavez: strongly approve 8 (I'm a populist...)
Iyad Allawi: disapprove 3
Ariel Sharon: neutral 5
Mahmoud Abbas: approve 7
Osama bin Laden: strongly disapprove 0
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: approve but only 6
Islam Karimonv: ?
Saparmurat Niyazov: ?
Fidel Castro: strongly disapprove 2,9
Robert Mugabe: strongly disapprove 1
Kim Jong-Il: strongly disapprove 0
Hu Jintao: disapprove: 2
bandit73 (as he is president of New America): ?


And I add some names:

Schroeder: disapprove: 4
Maerkel/Stoiber: disapprove 3
Kozumi: disapprove 4 (but in fact, I don't know very well the japan politics)
Barroso: strongly disapprove: 2,9
Berlusconi: strongly disapprove 2,9
Jospin:  disapprove 3
Verhofstadt: disapprove 4
Le Pen: strongly disapprove: 1
Howard: as Kozumi
Fortuyn: neutral 5 (what? he's dead? my bad...)
Gordon Brown: neutral 5


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Ye Olde Europe on February 18, 2005, 07:13:25 am
-2: He should either resign or die.
-1: Disapprove.
0: Somewhat neutral.
+1: Approve.
+2: I want to invite him to my next birthday party.

George W. Bush: -1
Jaques Chirac: 0
Tony Blair: 0
Jose Zapatero: +2
Vladimir Putin: -2
Hugo Chavez: -1
Iyad Allawi: 0
Ariel Sharon: for a long time -1, improved to 0 several months ago
Mahmoud Abbas: +1
Osama bin Laden: -2
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: +1
Islam Karimonv: -2
Saparmurat Niyazov: -2
Fidel Castro: -2
Robert Mugabe: -2
Kim Jong-Il: -2
Hu Jintao: -2
bandit73 (as he is president of New America): no idea


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: opebo on February 18, 2005, 01:59:08 pm
1 - strongly disapprove
10 - strong approve

George W. Bush -- 1
Jaques Chirac -- 6
Tony Blair -- 4
Jose Zapatero -- 8
Vladimir Putin -- 1
Hugo Chavez -- 3
Iyad Allawi -- 3
Ariel Sharon -- 3
Mahmoud Abbas -- 4
Osama bin Laden -- 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -- 4
Islam Karimonv -- 1
Saparmurat Niyazov -- 1
Fidel Castro -- 3
Robert Mugabe -- 1
Kim Jong-Il -- 1
Hu Jintao -- 3

Oh, and Bandit is a great guy, and would be a better leader than all of the above except for Zapatero and Chirac.  I'll give him a five.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: opebo on February 18, 2005, 02:07:12 pm
And I add some names:


Oh I want to do these too..

Schroeder: 8
Maerkel/Stoiber: 3
Kozumi: 4
Barroso: 1
Berlusconi: 1
Jospin:  3
Verhofstadt: 4
Le Pen: 1
Howard: 2
Fortuyn: 7
Gordon Brown: 8


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Erc on February 18, 2005, 05:51:28 pm
George W. Bush - Approve
Jaques Chirac - Disapprove
Tony Blair - Approve
Jose Zapatero - Disapprove
Vladimir Putin - Disapprove
Hugo Chavez - Strongly Disapprove
Iyad Allawi - Mildly Approve
Ariel Sharon - Mildly Approve
Mahmoud Abbas - Approve
Osama bin Laden - Strongly Disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - Disapprove
Islam Karimonv - que?
Saparmurat Niyazov - Strongly Disapprove (although if he ever finishes up that ice palace...)
Fidel Castro - Strongly Disapprove
Robert Mugabe - Strongly Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il - Strongly Disapprove
Hu Jintao - Mildly Disapprove
bandit73 (as he is president of New America) - No basis for Comment
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Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jake on February 18, 2005, 08:08:23 pm
George W. Bush-Approve
Jaques Chirac-Disapprove
Tony Blair-Approve
Jose Zapatero-Disapprove
Vladimir Putin-Approve
Hugo Chavez-Disapprove
Iyad Allawi-Approve
Ariel Sharon-Approve
Mahmoud Abbas-Approve
Osama bin Laden-Disapprove,WTF
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva-Approve
Islam Karimonv-Approve
Saparmurat Niyazov-Approve
Fidel Castro-Disapprove
Robert Mugabe-Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il-Disapprove
Hu Jintao-Approve
bandit73-Disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 10:00:08 pm
1 - strongly disapprove
10 - strong approve

George W. Bush -- 1
Jaques Chirac -- 6
Tony Blair -- 4
Jose Zapatero -- 8
Vladimir Putin -- 1
Hugo Chavez -- 3
Iyad Allawi -- 3
Ariel Sharon -- 3
Mahmoud Abbas -- 4
Osama bin Laden -- 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -- 4
Islam Karimonv -- 1
Saparmurat Niyazov -- 1
Fidel Castro -- 3
Robert Mugabe -- 1
Kim Jong-Il -- 1
Hu Jintao -- 3

Oh, and Bandit is a great guy, and would be a better leader than all of the above except for Zapatero and Chirac.  I'll give him a five.

how would the Thai Prime Minister rank?

And for those unfamiliar with Karimov, see my comment above. He's the dictator of a former Soviet Republic who enjoys torturing political dissidents, largely by boiling them alive. And a very close friend and ally of Bush.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jake on February 18, 2005, 10:09:08 pm
Karimov gets an approve for providing key special forces bases in preparation for Enduring Freedom.  I could care less if he boils people.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on February 18, 2005, 11:03:10 pm
Enduring "Freedom", how ironic. Kind of like supporting Saddam in the 80s. Now we have a new Saddam in Central Asia and right wingers think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 19, 2005, 03:49:22 am
George W. Bush disapprove
Jaques Chirac disapprove
Tony Blair disapprove
Jose Zapatero approve
Vladimir Putin disapprove
Hugo Chavez disapprove (but not enough to support the opposition, who are worse)
Iyad Allawi neutral
Ariel Sharon disapprove
Mahmoud Abbas neutral
Osama bin Laden disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva approve
Islam Karimov disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov disapprove
Fidel Castro disapprove (but not enough to support the US based part of the opposition)
Robert Mugabe disapprove
Kim Jong-Il disapprove
Hu Jintao disapprove
bandit73 (as he is president of New America) approve as a poster, disapprove as president


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 19, 2005, 04:02:44 am
You disapprove of everyone Lewis ;D


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 19, 2005, 04:25:25 am
You disapprove of everyone Lewis ;D

No, I don't! Read closely! ;D


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 19, 2005, 04:27:59 am
I'll do Umengus' and Dakota BRTD's as well:
Schroeder: neutral
Merkel: disapprove
Stoiber: disapprove
Koizumi: disapprove
Barroso: disapprove
Berlusconi: disapprove (and, yes, to the point of hatred)
Jospin:  approve
Verhofstadt: approve
Le Pen: disapprove
Howard: disapprove
Fortuyn: disapprove
Gordon Brown: neutral
Thaksin Shinawatra: disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Platypus on February 19, 2005, 04:47:29 am
1 - strongly disapprove
10 - strong approve

George W. Bush -- 1
Jaques Chirac -- 6
Tony Blair -- 4
Jose Zapatero -- 8
Vladimir Putin -- 1
Hugo Chavez -- 3
Iyad Allawi -- 3
Ariel Sharon -- 3
Mahmoud Abbas -- 4
Osama bin Laden -- 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -- 4
Islam Karimonv -- 1
Saparmurat Niyazov -- 1
Fidel Castro -- 3
Robert Mugabe -- 1
Kim Jong-Il -- 1
Hu Jintao -- 3

Oh, and Bandit is a great guy, and would be a better leader than all of the above except for Zapatero and Chirac. I'll give him a five.

how would the Thai Prime Minister rank?


Thaksin would be a 3 for me.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Colin on February 19, 2005, 10:38:51 am
George W. Bush- Approve
Jaques Chirac- Disapprove
Tony Blair- Approve
Jose Zapatero- Disapprove
Vladimir Putin- Disapprove
Hugo Chavez- Disapprove
Iyad Allawi- Approve
Ariel Sharon- Approve
Mahmoud Abbas- Hasn't been in power long enough for me to have an opinion on him. His early attempts to stop Hamas and Islamic Jihad are admirable and his promises to finally bring the conflict to a conclusion are promising.
Osama bin Laden- Disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva- Disapprove
Islam Karimonv- Disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov- Disapprove
Fidel Castro- Disapprove
Robert Mugabe- Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il- Disapprove
Hu Jintao- Disapprove
bandit73 (as he is president of New America)- Disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: DanielX on February 19, 2005, 11:12:01 am
(on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being 'homicidal hatred', 10 being "want to reach out and give a big kiss, ? means 'never heard of him')

George W. Bush 7
Jaques Chirac 3
Tony Blair 5
Jose Zapatero 4
Vladimir Putin 3
Hugo Chavez 2
Iyad Allawi 6
Ariel Sharon 7
Mahmoud Abbas 3
Osama bin Laden 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva 4
Islam Karimonv ?
Saparmurat Niyazov ?
Fidel Castro 1
Robert Mugabe 2
Kim Jong-Il 1
Hu Jintao 1
bandit73 (as he is president of New America) 1 or 2

Schroeder: 3
Maerkel/Stoiber: ?
Kozumi:  5
Barroso:  ?
Berlusconi: 7
Jospin:  3
Verhofstadt:  ?
Le Pen:  5
Howard:  7
Fortuyn:  7
Gordon Brown: ?

And some others...
Paul Martin: 4
Ayatollah Khameimi: 1
ArielSharon: 6

Incidentally, for perspective, the following historical figures rank...
Ronald Reagan: 8
Bill Clinton: 4
Franklin Roosevelt: 5
Joseph Stalin: 1
Winston Churchill: 8
Benito Mussolini: 2


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Ye Olde Europe on February 19, 2005, 11:26:18 am
Umengus´additional list:

Schröder: somewhat neutral
Merkel/Stoiber: neutral (I thought these were individual persons and not siamese twins *lol*)
Kozumi: neutral
Barroso: neutral
Berlusconi: strongly disapprove
Jospin: neutral
Verhofstadt: approve
Le Pen: strongly disapprove
Howard: disapprove
Fortuyn: rather dead
Gordon Brown: neutral


BRTD´s additional:

Thaksin: disapprove


DanielX´ additional list:

Paul Martin: approve
The Ayatollah: strongly disapprove
Ariel Sharon: already ranked


DanielX´s historical figures (I admit I ranked them so as they would still alive and running for a office):

Ronald Reagan: disapprove
Bill Clinton: approve
Franklin Roosevelt: approve
Joseph Stalin: strongly disapprove
Winston Churchill: neutral
Benito Mussolini: strongly disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Silent Hunter on February 19, 2005, 11:44:03 am
Wasn't 'Enduring Freedom' originally 'Infinite Justice', but it had to be changed because of Muslim complaints?


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jake on February 19, 2005, 11:55:08 am
Wasn't 'Enduring Freedom' originally 'Infinite Justice', but it had to be changed because of Muslim complaints?

Possibly, I can't remember.  Though, the Pentagon likes to use "Freedom" in their operational names.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: opebo on February 19, 2005, 03:41:11 pm

how would the Thai Prime Minister rank?


Thaksin Shinawat - 1

He's just as bad as Bush, or possibly even worse.  Basically a Thai Bush.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 21, 2005, 09:04:30 am
Paul Martin: disapprove
Ayatollah Khameimi: disapprove
ArielSharon: uh, I think he was ranked before, but I still disapprove
Ronald Reagan: disapprove
Bill Clinton: disapprove
Franklin Roosevelt: approve
Joseph Stalin: disapprove
Winston Churchill: disapprove
Benito Mussolini: disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: opebo on February 21, 2005, 10:09:30 am
Paul Martin: disapprove
Ayatollah Khameimi: disapprove
ArielSharon: uh, I think he was ranked before, but I still disapprove
Ronald Reagan: disapprove
Bill Clinton: disapprove
Franklin Roosevelt: approve
Joseph Stalin: disapprove
Winston Churchill: disapprove
Benito Mussolini: disapprove


I think I would pretty much agree, except perhaps for Paul Martin.  What's wrong with him?


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 21, 2005, 10:29:40 am
He's no Jean Chrétien. :)


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Hitchabrut on February 28, 2005, 06:58:33 pm
George W. Bush 7
Jaques Chirac 4
Tony Blair 4
Jose Zapatero 3
Vladimir Putin 2
Hugo Chavez 2
Iyad Allawi 6
Ariel Sharon 6
Mahmoud Abbas 2
Osama bin Laden 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva 3
Islam Karimonv 2
Saparmurat Niyazov 2
Fidel Castro 1
Robert Mugabe 1
Kim Jong-Il 1
Hu Jintao 2
bandit73 (as he is president of New America) 2




Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jake on February 28, 2005, 07:31:46 pm
Paul Martin: disapprove
Ayatollah Khameimi: disapprove
Ariel Sharon: approve
Ronald Reagan: approve
Bill Clinton: approve
Franklin Roosevelt: approve
Joseph Stalin: disapprove
Winston Churchill: approve
Benito Mussolini: disapprove

What a bad person Churchill was :P Considering he helped liberate your ungrateful as all hell country. 


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 01, 2005, 09:29:00 am
Yes and no...if you read a history of the Second World War, you'll notice that if he'd suddenly died in December 41 or something like that, D-Day would likely have occured one summer before (and the unnecessary Italian invasion that year would not have occurred at all.) I give him a lifetime of credit for preventing a ceasefire in 1940...but I can't really think of anything else he's ever done that I wholly approve of.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 01, 2005, 09:35:02 am
I don't like Churchill. I won't go into too many details, but his conduct during the General Strike, over India, during the '45 election campaign, over the NHS and in his second, wasted, term (along with some other stuff) makes me dislike him quite a lot.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: The love that set me free on October 17, 2006, 10:20:41 pm
George W. Bush    -disapprove 4

Jaques Chirac       -approve 6

Tony Blair             -disapprove 2

Jose Zapatero      -approve 10

Vladimir Putin       -disapprove 2

Hugo Chavez       -approve 8

Iyad Allawi           -disapprove 2

Ariel Sharon         -disapprove 3

Mahmoud Abbas  -jury still out

Osama bin Laden -disapprove 0

Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -approve 8

Islam Karimonv      -disapprove 0

Saparmurat Niyazov -disapprove 0

Fidel Castro              -disapprove 3

Robert Mugabe         -disapprove 2

Kim Jong-Il                -disapprove 0

Hu Jintao                   -approve 7


You also seemed to have a rather favorable opinion here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=17574.0


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Umengus on October 18, 2006, 06:47:21 am

George W. Bush D 4
Jaques Chirac D 4
Tony Blair A-D 5
Jose Zapatero D 4
Vladimir Putin D 3
Hugo Chavez D 2,5 (his anti-america and pro-Iran stance is completely stupid)
 
Iyad Allawi A 6 (don't know enough)
Ariel Sharon D 4 (his "unilateral disengagment" strategy was unfortunatly bad)

Mahmoud Abbas A 6
Osama bin Laden D 0
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva A 6
Islam Karimonv D 1 (don't know enough)
Saparmurat Niyazov D 1 (don't know enough)
Fidel Castro D 2,5
Robert Mugabe D 1,5
Kim Jong-Il D 0
Hu Jintao D 1,5


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Maastricht on October 18, 2006, 03:15:30 pm
George W. Bush 4
Jaques Chirac 5
Tony Blair 5
Jose Zapatero 7
Vladimir Putin 3
Hugo Chavez 3
Iyad Allawi 5
Ariel Sharon 3
Mahmoud Abbas 4
Osama bin Laden 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva 6
Fidel Castro 2
Robert Mugabe 2
Kim Jong-Il 1
Hu Jintao 3


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: © tweed on February 20, 2007, 03:47:35 pm
George W. Bush: disapprove
Jaques Chirac: disapprove
Tony Blair: disapprove
Jose Zapatero: approve
Vladimir Putin: strongly disapprove
Hugo Chavez: approve
Iyad Allawi: irrelevant
Ariel Sharon: he's half dead, so I'll spare calling him a terrorist
Mahmoud Abbas: disapprove
Osama bin Laden: disapprove.  although I admire him for rejecting a comfortable background to go live in a cave and fight for his conception of freedom.  I don't share his ideology nor approve of his tactics, hence disapprove.
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: approve
Islam Karimonv: fascist, and simply a mircocasm of what has befallen that region since the collapse of the USSR
Saparmurat Niyazov: unfamilar
Fidel Castro: extremely mixed.  Upon his death, I'll cry for the young lawyer who led resistance against the fascist regime in place in the 40s and 50s, and the man who liberated Havana on new years' day, not the sellout to the statecapitalist sugar daddy and the guy who killed thousands in the 60s.
Robert Mugabe: disapprove.  dolt
Kim Jong-Il: extremely horrible person
Hu Jintao: fascist
bandit73: irrelevant


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jake on February 20, 2007, 03:57:09 pm
George W. Bush: Lean positive.
Jaques Chirac: Leaning towards irrelenvance, negative.
Tony Blair: Also leaning towards irrelevance, but positive.
Jose Zapatero: Socialist trash, negative.
Vladimir Putin: Basically a Russian ultra-nationalist. Not what they need, negative.
Hugo Chavez: Tin pot dictator who happens to control oil, negative.
Iyad Allawi: Worthless
Ariel Sharon: God bless. One of the freedom fighters in the Middle East.
Mahmoud Abbas: Not positive at all.
Osama bin Laden: Currently waging war against America, negative.
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: Anti-free trader, negative.
Islam Karimov: Tin pot dictator. Happens to be anti-US this week.
Saparmurat Niyazov: He's dead, isn't he?
Fidel Castro: Can he die already? Negative.
Robert Mugabe: Tin pot dictator who happens to be crazy, negative.
Kim Jong-Il: Another crazy, very negative.
Hu Jintao: Competent leader, lean positive.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Michael Z on February 20, 2007, 08:24:19 pm
My vote in February 2005 vs Now

George W. Bush -- 4 / 1
Jaques Chirac -- 5 / 4
Tony Blair -- 5 / 2
Jose Zapatero -- 7 / 7
Vladimir Putin -- 5 / 7
Hugo Chavez -- 4 / 4
Iyad Allawi -- 5 / 2
Ariel Sharon -- 4 / NA
Mahmoud Abbas -- 7 / 7
Osama bin Laden -- 1 / 1
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -- 5 / 6
Islam Karimonv -- 1 / 1
Saparmurat Niyazov -- 2 / NA
Fidel Castro -- 4 / 3
Robert Mugabe -- 2 / 1
Kim Jong-Il -- 1 / 1
Hu Jintao -- 6 / 6
bandit73 -- 10 ;-) / 11


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: © tweed on February 21, 2007, 12:39:24 am
Vladimir Putin -- 5 / 7

Why?


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: © tweed on February 21, 2007, 12:44:35 am
Also, why are people sympathetic to Hu Jintao?  apparently it's perfectly fine to commend capitalist dictators while spewing hatred at democratically elected socialist like Chavez.

Jintao and Putin are immeasurably worse than Chavez.  Yet people here commend the 'competence' of those two while bashing the left for its admiration of Chavez.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on February 21, 2007, 12:51:56 am
George W. Bush - disapprove
Jaques Chirac - disapporve
Tony Blair - disapporve
Jose Zapatero - approve
Vladimir Putin - disapprove
Hugo Chavez - neutral
Iyad Allawi - disapprove
Ariel Sharon - disaprove
Mahmoud Abbas - neutral
Osama bin Laden - disapprove
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - neutral
Islam Karimov disapprove
Saparmurat Niyazov - dead (disapprove)
Fidel Castro - disapprove
Robert Mugabe - disapprove
Kim Jong-Il - disapprove
Hu Jintao - disapprove
bandit73 - neutral


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Gustaf on February 21, 2007, 05:10:27 am
George W. Bush DISAPPROVE
Jaques Chirac DISAPPROVE
Tony Blair APPROVE
Jose Zapatero DISAPPROVE
Vladimir Putin DISAPPROVE
Hugo Chavez DISAPPROVE
Iyad Allawi WHO???
Ariel Sharon APPROVE
Mahmoud Abbas APPROVE
Osama bin Laden DISAPPROVE
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva DISAPPROVE
Islam Karimonv DISAPPROVE
Saparmurat Niyazov DISAPPROVE
Fidel Castro DISAPPROVE
Robert Mugabe DISAPPROVE
Kim Jong-Il DISAPPROVE
Hu Jintao DISAPPROVE
bandit73 (as he is president of New America) DISAPPROVE


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Hash on February 21, 2007, 08:51:47 am
1- strongly disapprove 10-strongly approve

George W. Bush - 1
Jaques Chirac - 2
Tony Blair - 3
Jose Zapatero - 8
Vladimir Putin - 2
Hugo Chavez - 3
Iyad Allawi - neutral
Ariel Sharon - past job- 6
Mahmoud Abbas - 3
Osama bin Laden - 0
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva -6
Islam Karimov - 0
Saparmurat Niyazov - dead (0)
Fidel Castro - 1
Robert Mugabe - 0
Kim Jong-Il - 0
Hu Jintao - 2
Stephen Harper - 4
Jean Charest - 2


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Cubby on February 27, 2007, 01:35:21 am
George W. Bush - 1
Jaques Chirac - 7
Tony Blair - 9
Jose Zapatero - 10   
Vladimir Putin - 1
Hugo Chavez - 6
Ariel Sharon -  10
Ehud Olmert-  7
Mahmoud Abbas - 9
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva - 8  (Not liberal enough)
Fidel Castro - 4
Robert Mugabe - 0
Kim Jong-Il - 0
Hu Jintao - 5
Stephen Harper - 1   (Hasn't managed to ban it yet, hope he loses soon)
John Howard- 0        (I hated him long before his Obama remarks)
Angela Merkel- 7
Romano Prodi- 8
Those stupid Polish Twins- 0
Manmohan Singh- 8
Pervez Musharraf- 8
Nuri al-Maliki- 0
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad- 0
Felipe Calderon-      (Too soon to tell. Wanted Obrador to win)
Evo Morales- 8
Shinzo Abe- 8
Thabo Mbeki- 4


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on July 22, 2007, 02:38:23 pm
Bump.

George W. Bush: Words can not express how I can disapprove.
Jaques Chirac: Bent Crook, thank god he is gone. So yeah, disapprove.
Tony Blair: Almost seemed a bit of an egomaniac. Some of his decisions were dubious in the least. So generally Disapprove.
Jose Zapatero: Somewhat neutral leaning approve.
Vladimir Putin: See Bush
Hugo Chavez: See Bush
Iyad Allawi: No longer relevant.
Ariel Sharon: Comatose, disapprove but he's not the palestinian baby eater which some portray.
Mahmoud Abbas: Generally disapprove
Osama bin Laden: See Bush (X1000)
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva: Lean approve
Islam Karimonv: See Osama Bin Laden (X10000)
Saparmurat Niyazov: Thank god he's dead
Fidel Castro: Strongly, Strongly disapprove - not the greatest of fans of the Florida-based opposition though, but is even less of a fan of Fidel and even worse is the "Cuba is a socialist paradise" bridage in the west - yes, I'm looking at you Finian McGrath.
Robert Mugabe: Now that Niyazov is dead, quite possibly the world's most evil man?
Kim Jong-Il: Oops, I stand Corrected (see above)
Hu Jintao: Strongly Disapprove
bandit73 (as he is president of New America): Care?

Ehud Olmert: Lean Disapprove
Gordon Brown: Still Unsure, want to see what he makes of the Iraq situation first. Good move on constitutional reforms though.
Romano Prodi: Unsure but far better than the other guy without a shadow of a doubt
Stephen Harper: Disapprove
Angela Merkel: Neutral
Shinzo Abe: Strongly Disapprove
Thabo Mbeki: Disapprove
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad: Are you sure he's not a cartoon character?
The Polish Twins: Strongly Disapprove
John Howard: Go Away
Nuri al-Maliki: Where to start? Not the greatest fan, but jesus there could be far worse.
Pervez Musharraf: See Nuri al-Maliki
Paul Martin: Don't really know much about him. Always in the shadow of Chreiten. A great Mediocrity I guess.
Ayatollah Khameimi: A vile human being
Ronald Reagan: A daft actor who belonged in an Old folks home, not the white house
Bill Clinton: Disapprove, but there has been far worse.
Franklin Roosevelt: Generally Approve
Joseph Stalin: Is this a Joke?
Winston Churchill: I have doubts about his sanity and ability, so really disapprove despite the historical legend
Benito Mussolini: See Stalin, Joseph

As you can see, there isn't much I approve of in the world. :P



Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: DanielX on July 22, 2007, 03:02:22 pm
I'm neutral towards Ariel Sharon and 1 or 2 i've never heard of. The rest I disapprove, between Bush (who i generally disapprove of) to Kim, Mugabe, and their ilk (who should be slowly and painfully tortured to death).


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on July 22, 2007, 03:03:30 pm
The only ratign of mine that I'd like to change would be Abbas.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on July 22, 2007, 03:21:28 pm
One's that I know (that are still in power):

George W. Bush: Approve
Vladimir Putin: Strongly Disapprove
Hugo Chavez: Terrorist
Ariel Sharon: WTF happened to this guy?
Mahmoud Abbas: Neutral
Osama bin Laden: POS
Fidel Castro: Strongly disapprove
Robert Mugabe: Pretty bad, but not the worst
Kim Jong-Il: Terrorist
Ehud Olmert: Disapprove
Gordon Brown: Strongly Disapprove
Romano Prodi: Italians could not have made a worse decision in the last election
Stephen Harper: Strongly Approve
Angela Merkel: Disapprove
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad: Terrorist
The Polish Twins: Neutral
John Howard: Approve
Nuri al-Maliki: Neutral
Pervez Musharraf: approve
Ayatollah Khameimi: Awful


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Sensei on July 22, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
George W. Bush: Strongly Disapprove
Vladimir Putin: Strongly Disapprove
Hugo Chavez: Strongly Disapprove
Ariel Sharon: Comatose
Mahmoud Abbas: He's half-way decent I guess. Better than that POS Arafat
Osama bin Laden: Long, painful, torturous death please
Fidel Castro: see Osama
Robert Mugabe: Strongly Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il: See Fidel
Ehud Olmert: Neutral
Gordon Brown: Approve
Romano Prodi: Approve
Stephen Harper: Disapprove
Angela Merkel: Approve
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad: See Kim
The Polish Twins: Disapprove
John Howard: Disapprove
Nuri al-Maliki: Neutral
Pervez Musharraf: Neutral
Ayatollah Khameimi: See Ahmedinejad


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Jaggerjack on July 22, 2007, 06:05:42 pm
George W. Bush: VERY VERY VERY Strongly Disapprove
Vladimir Putin: Neutral
Hugo Chavez: Strongly Disapprove
Ariel Sharon: Irrelevant
Mahmoud Abbas: Neutral
Osama bin Laden: Strongly disapprove
Fidel Castro: Strongly disapprove
Robert Mugabe: VERY VERY Strongly Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il: Worst leader on the planet
Ehud Olmert: Neutral
Gordon Brown: Approve
Romano Prodi: Approve
Stephen Harper: Disapprove
Angela Merkel: Approve
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad: Strongly disapprove
The Polish Twins: Neutral
John Howard: Disapprove
Nuri al-Maliki: Neutral
Pervez Musharraf: Neutral
Ayatollah Khameimi: See Ahmedinejad


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Verily on July 22, 2007, 08:47:25 pm
Easier to just list the people I approve of.

Romano Prodi
Angela Merkel
Ariel Sharon (before the stroke, obviously)

That's it for major world leaders. I disapprove of all the others to varying degrees. Gordon Brown and Jose Luis Zapatero might eke out Neutral.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Sensei on July 22, 2007, 09:40:03 pm
FTR, Martin Torrijos Espino is a big-time FF.


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: CultureKing on July 26, 2007, 12:32:11 am
George W. Bush: Strongly Disapprove
Vladimir Putin: disapprove
Hugo Chavez: Nuetral
Ariel Sharon: Approve
Mahmoud Abbas: Approve
Osama bin Laden: Strongly, Strongly, Strongly disapprove (though he really isn't even a leader)
Fidel Castro: Nuetral
Robert Mugabe: VERY Strongly Disapprove
Kim Jong-Il: VERY Strongly Disapprove
Ehud Olmert: Disapprove
Gordon Brown: Approve
Romano Prodi: Approve
Stephen Harper: Disapprove
Angela Merkel: Approve
Mahmoud Ahmedinejad: Strongly disapprove
The Polish Twins: Neutral
John Howard: Disapprove
Nuri al-Maliki: Disapprove
Pervez Musharraf: Neutral
Ayatollah Khameimi: Stronly disapprove


Title: Re: World leaders survey
Post by: Verily on July 26, 2007, 12:36:05 am
Ah, I forgot one major world leader. I approve of Manmohan Singh, too. That brings the total up to the three.

Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India
Prime Minister Romano Prodi of Italy