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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on July 22, 2013, 06:33:21 AM



Title: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Tender Branson on July 22, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
41-41 Clinton vs. Christie
46-39 Clinton vs. Walker

32-49 Biden vs. Christie
39-42 Biden vs. Walker

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Favorables:

42-16 Christie (+26)
52-41 Clinton (+11)
17-17 Walker (even)
38-47 Biden (-9)

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Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as President?

41-55 disapprove

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From July 15 - 17, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,256 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/iowa/release-detail?ReleaseID=1926


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 22, 2013, 07:20:14 AM
Because there's been a lot of discussion of the age differential in the recent polls:

Christie vs. Clinton by age:
18-29: Clinton +12
30-44: Christie +6
45-64: Christie +2
65+: Clinton +1

Christie favorability by age:
18-29: +5
30-44: +24
45-64: +33
65+: +37

Clinton favorability by age:
18-29: +7
30-44: +10
45-64: +12
65+: +14

So yeah, Christie is viewed more favorably by olds than by youngs, which is the normal pattern for Republicans, but Clinton is also viewed a bit more favorably by olds than youngs, which is a stark contrast to how Obama has typically polled.  Then again, at least in this poll:

Obama job approval by age:
18-29: -15
30-44: -23
45-64: -10
65+: -9


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: JRP1994 on July 22, 2013, 08:51:18 AM
Is the party-ID sample in this poll skewed towards Republicans? If not, Biden is getting OBLITERATED.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: California8429 on July 22, 2013, 09:10:22 AM
These doubt digit-20 point swings from Clinton-Christie to Christie-Biden is amazing


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on July 22, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
It certainly gives me some hope that Obama was a one-time thing. Clinton is obviously an exception, but if the Biden numbers are what we'll revert back to with an "average Democrat," that's pretty good news for the GOP.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: JRP1994 on July 22, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
It certainly gives me some hope that Obama was a one-time thing. Clinton is obviously an exception, but if the Biden numbers are what we'll revert back to with an "average Democrat," that's pretty good news for the GOP.

I think Biden is probably worse than a generic democrat. Quite bluntly - he's old, has a history of failed Presidential campaigns, and is nearly as gaffe-prone as Dan Quayle.

Clinton, on the other hand, is probably running a few points better than a generic democrat. Average Clinton & Biden's results, and you're probably in the general ballpark of how a generic democrat would be performing right now.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Tender Branson on July 22, 2013, 02:00:09 PM
If Clinton and Biden are not the "Generic Ds", then Christie is no "Generic R" either.

Christie is popular because of the Sandy management and because he's a good buddy of Obama (something else ?).

Of course he has to win the GOP nomination first ...

Currently, there's no real "Generic D" (maybe Warren or O'Malley ?), while there are many "Generic Rs" (Paul, Rubio, Bush, Cruz).


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: LiberalJunkie on July 22, 2013, 02:08:23 PM
So hillary is running better against Christie in Virginia then Iowa?


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: cheesepizza on July 22, 2013, 02:32:21 PM
The 41% job approval mark was interesting.  That's very low for Obama.  If that keeps up in swing states, it's very unlikely a Democrat could hold the Presidency


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on July 22, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
LOL Quinnipiac


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Mr. Morden on July 22, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
Obama's job approval rating has indeed been on the downswing nationally:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/22/obama-approval_n_3636526.html

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/359417024159551489


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: barfbag on July 22, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
Obama is going the way of Bush.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on July 23, 2013, 12:39:21 AM

Except for the financial crisis, the failure to respond to a national disaster, or the duo of unfinanced, unnecessary wars.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Eraserhead on July 23, 2013, 12:47:49 AM

Pretty much.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: pbrower2a on July 23, 2013, 07:44:37 AM

Just no big, dramatic events lately. News involving this President is getting dull.

Better dullness in the news than exciting catastrophe, I suppose. 


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: barfbag on July 23, 2013, 11:20:57 PM

Except for the financial crisis, the failure to respond to a national disaster, or the duo of unfinanced, unnecessary wars.

And no partisanship either. Oh wait ^


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on July 24, 2013, 11:44:06 AM
Obama's numbers are on the downswing every summer.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on July 24, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
What is it that's pushing his fall though? Nothing's really even happened. Nobody's talking about those scandals. Yet apparently Democratic approval is falling and Independents hate him now.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Person Man on August 24, 2013, 11:28:34 PM
What is it that's pushing his fall though? Nothing's really even happened. Nobody's talking about those scandals. Yet apparently Democratic approval is falling and Independents hate him now.

Good question. There's the possibility that there is some sort of cultural shift going on to where people just want to go to church and get rich. More likely though is that the base is disenchanted with the Snowden/Manning thing or even more likely, its summer and Obama doesn't do well in the summer because nothing is getting down because congress is out. At least this time, there aren't fundies and fascists bringing guns to town halls and accusing congressmen on being Manchurianesque commienazies.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: politicallefty on August 25, 2013, 08:07:40 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: barfbag on August 25, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

His numbers may hurt her like Bush's numbers hurt McCain.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Person Man on August 25, 2013, 08:59:45 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

Same as in Colorado. Her husband did quite well here. Why would she botch Iowa but carry Missouri?



Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: barfbag on August 25, 2013, 09:09:29 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

Same as in Colorado. Her husband did quite well here. Why would she botch Iowa but carry Missouri?



Are you saying the polls are wrong?


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Person Man on August 25, 2013, 09:28:18 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

Same as in Colorado. Her husband did quite well here. Why would she botch Iowa but carry Missouri?



Are you saying the polls are wrong?

Not necessarily. We still just had the 2012 election. These numbers are very characteristic of where Obama was during 2010-2011 and he still turned out fine. Quinnipiac is the only one consistently polling these places and we do not have any narrative to explain what's going on to believe these numbers except some voters who voted for Obama think that Hillary is a jackass.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: barfbag on August 25, 2013, 09:32:46 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

Same as in Colorado. Her husband did quite well here. Why would she botch Iowa but carry Missouri?



Are you saying the polls are wrong?

Not necessarily. We still just had the 2012 election. These numbers are very characteristic of where Obama was during 2010-2011 and he still turned out fine. Quinnipiac is the only one consistently polling these places and we do not have any narrative to explain what's going on to believe these numbers except some voters who voted for Obama think that Hillary is a jackass.

It's 2013 so I'm not looking much at polls for 2016. Obama's numbers have never been impressive since he took office.


Title: Re: IA-Quinnipiac: Hillary tied with Christie, leads Walker - Biden trails both
Post by: Maxwell on August 25, 2013, 09:33:28 AM
I wouldn't expect Hillary to perform particularly strong in Iowa. However, I don't think this poll is all too favourable to her when you consider Obama's 41% approval rating in the state.

His approvals range around 44% right now, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.