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Title: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: King on February 27, 2005, 06:13:39 pm
I couldn't think of any 2008 scenarios on my own.  So I am going to start a 2008 Primary Adventure where you decide and I make the scenario! 

All you do is vote in each round (new round of questions every 1-2 weeks).  The italicized words in the brackets note what selections are considered valid.




ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy:
2.  Iraq:
3.  War on Terror:
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country:

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House:
6.  Senate:

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN):
8.  George Allen (R-VA):
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA):
10.  George Pataki (R-NY):
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL):
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA):
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO):
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA):
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM):
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY):

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment:
18.  Bush Social Security Reform:
19.  Bush Tax Reform:
20.  No Child Left Behind:


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Jake on February 27, 2005, 06:17:20 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Good
2.  Iraq: Good
3.  War on Terror: Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN):  Didn't Seek Re-election
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Won
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Didn't seek
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Lost
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Didn't seek
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Didn't seek
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Failed
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Success
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Failed


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: YRABNNRM on February 27, 2005, 06:20:43 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Fair
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Excellent
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Poor

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Democratic
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Didn't Run
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Lost
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Didn't Run
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Didn't Run
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Won(Senate?)
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Won
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Didn't Run
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Lost
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Lost

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Failure
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Success
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Failure
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Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: PBrunsel on February 27, 2005, 06:20:49 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
1.  Economy: Good
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair


[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Not running for re-election
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Won
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Not running for re-election
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Term-limited
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Won
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Term limited
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Not running for re-election
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Failed
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Success
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Success





Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Alcon on February 27, 2005, 06:36:39 pm
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Fair
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Didn't run
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Didn't run
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Didn't run
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Won
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Term limits - senate?
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Didn't run
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Failure
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Success
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Failure


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: TheWildCard on February 27, 2005, 06:37:08 pm



ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Fair
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Fair
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country:FAIR

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: D
6.  Senate: D

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): W
8.  George Allen (R-VA):W
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): W
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): W
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): W
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): W
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): W
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): W
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): W
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): W

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: F
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: S
19.  Bush Tax Reform: S
20.  No Child Left Behind: S


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Hitchabrut on February 27, 2005, 06:43:59 pm



ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor
1.  Economy: Good
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

Democratic or Republican
5.  House: R
6.  Senate: R

Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Not running
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Won
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Won
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Not running
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Lost
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Won
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

Success or Failure
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Success
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Failure
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Failure


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: nick on February 27, 2005, 06:44:53 pm
Im I answering what I think the state of each of these things will be or what I want them to be?


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Defarge on February 27, 2005, 06:52:27 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Good
2.  Iraq: Fair
3.  War on Terror: Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Isn't he not seeking reelection?
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Won
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Won
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Won
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Won
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Fail
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Fail
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Fail
20.  No Child Left Behind: Fail
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Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: TomC on February 27, 2005, 07:06:12 pm
1. Economy: 2006-7 were the worst, by 2008 GDP growth back up but unemployment above 6%, consumer confidence weak.
2. Iraq: Still there in big numbers, so not great. The big concern being a big drop in recruitment and talk of a draft.
3. War on terror: No domestic attcks, but several smaller ones overseas. No one has a clue what's going on in Afghanistan (as is the case now).
4. Wrong track ahead of right track.

5. House- Dem
6. Senate Rep

7. Frist- Didn't run, Rep. holds seat with Marsha Blackburn (unfortunately)
8. Allen: Lost
9. Santorum: Lost
10. Pataki: Didn't run, Spitzer gains seat
11. Bush: Didn't run
12. Romney: Wins
13. Owens: Won
14. Vilsack: Won
15. Richardson: Won
16. Clinton: Won

17. Gay marr amend-  Lost
18. Soc security- lost, although increases in max IRA contributions
19. Tax reform: Some form of a win, although just as complex as before.
20. No Child Left Behind: Fail


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Notre Dame rules! on February 27, 2005, 09:47:40 pm
Tcash,

You don't like Marsha?  Who's your Congressman?


By the way,

House and Senate remain in GOP hands.

Economy remains strong.

Marriage amendment- fails.
Tax reform - success.
Social Security reform - success
No Child Left Behind- nothing ever changes in Public Education.


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Akno21 on February 27, 2005, 09:56:22 pm




ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: P
2.  Iraq: P
3.  War on Terror: P
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country:P

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: D
6.  Senate: D

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): lost
8.  George Allen (R-VA): lost
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): lost
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): lost
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): lost
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): termed out
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): win
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): win

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: F
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: F
19.  Bush Tax Reform: F
20.  No Child Left Behind: F
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Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Notre Dame rules! on February 27, 2005, 10:10:34 pm
Akno,

Fair as always.  Yeah, right!


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: nick on February 27, 2005, 10:14:37 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]

1.  Economy:  Fair
2.  Iraq:  Poor
3.  War on Terror:  Fair
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country:  Fair 

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Democratic
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN):  Doesnt seek re-election.  Ford (D) picks up this seat.
8.  George Allen (R-VA):  Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA):  Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY):  Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL):  Doesnt seek re-election.  Democrats win the gubernatorial race.
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA):  Lost
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO):  Does not seek re-election.  Democrats win the gubernatorial race.
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA):  Does not seek re-election.  Republicans win gubernatorial race.
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM):  Win
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY):  Win

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment:  Fail
18.  Bush Social Security Reform:  Fail, horribly.
19.  Bush Tax Reform:  Fail
20.  No Child Left Behind:  Mild Success


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: kgt107 on February 27, 2005, 10:26:15 pm
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Good
2.  Iraq: Good
3.  War on Terror: Excellent
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Good

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Not seeking
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Win
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Win
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Not seeking
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Not seeking
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Win
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Not seeking
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Not seeking
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Win
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Win

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Failure
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Success
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Failure


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Erc on February 28, 2005, 12:22:18 am
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy:  Fair
2.  Iraq: Good
3.  War on Terror:  Fair
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Republican

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Lost [did not seek]
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Won
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost [did not seek]
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Um...Term Limit.  Did not challenge Bill Nelson.
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Won
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Um...Term Limit.  No one to challenge.
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Won
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Doesn't get through Congress
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Passes Congress, still very contentious
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Made Permanent by Congress, still mistrusted by the Democrats
20.  No Child Left Behind: Acknowledged as a moderate success


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Akno21 on February 28, 2005, 12:24:37 am

I just want to see what happens in that scenerio. President Feingold!


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Smash255 on February 28, 2005, 01:21:53 am
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy:  Poor
2.  Iraq:    Poor
3.  War on Terror:  Good
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country:   Poor

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House:  Rep (barley)
6.  Senate:  Rep (barley)

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN):didn't run, Ford picks up seat
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Win
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY):Lost by a ton
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Doesn't seek re-election
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA):Loss
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO):Doesn't seek Re-election announces Pres bid
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Win
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM):Win
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY):Win

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment:F
18.  Bush Social Security Reform:F
19.  Bush Tax Reform:S
20.  No Child Left Behind:F


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on February 28, 2005, 06:00:03 am
ROUND 1
State of the Union in 2008
[Excellent, Good, Fair, or Poor]
1.  Economy: Fair
2.  Iraq: Poor
3.  War on Terror: Fair
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Fair

[Democratic or Republican]
5.  House: Republican
6.  Senate: Democrat

[Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)]
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Does not seek
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Lost
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Won
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Lost
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Lost
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Does not seek
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

[Success or Failure]
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: Fail
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: Fail
19.  Bush Tax Reform: Success
20.  No Child Left Behind: Success


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 28, 2005, 06:11:29 am
I thought this was about what we wanted to read about...not what was likely.


Title: Re: 2008 Primary Adventure
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 28, 2005, 06:16:00 am
State of the Union in 2008
1.  Economy: Fair
2.  Iraq: Horrible. Saddam escaped and leading insurgents (count vote as poor, please)
3.  War on Terror: No change to now, no new captures etc. No new invasions. (Count as "poor" or "fair" as you like.)
4.  Public's Perspective on the Country: Poor

Democratic or Republican
5.  House: R
6.  Senate: R

Won Re-election or Lost Re-election (includes not seeking re-election)
7.  Bill Frist (R-TN): Won
8.  George Allen (R-VA): Won
9.  Rick Santorum (R-PA): Lost
10.  George Pataki (R-NY): Lost
11.  Jeb Bush (R-FL): Lost Senate bid
12.  Mitt Romney (R-MA): Lost
13.  Bill Owens (R-CO): Won
14.  Tom Vilsack (D-IA): Won
15.  Bill Richardson (D-NM): Won
16.  Hillary Clinton (D-NY): Won

Success or Failure
17.  Gay Marriage Amendment: F
18.  Bush Social Security Reform: F (doesn't even happen.)
19.  Bush Tax Reform: F
20.  No Child Left Behind: F