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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: JRP1994 on December 12, 2013, 04:07:12 PM



Title: NC-PPP: Clinton leads all but Christie
Post by: JRP1994 on December 12, 2013, 04:07:12 PM
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/12/north-carolina-miscellany.html

Clinton 49% -- Cruz 41%
Clinton 48% -- Paul 44%
Clinton 46% -- Bush 45%
Christie 45% -- Clinton 42%


Title: Re: NC-PPP: Clinton leads all but Christie
Post by: Devils30 on December 12, 2013, 09:04:49 PM
Makes sense if NC is R+2, R+3ish


Title: Re: NC-PPP: Clinton leads all but Christie
Post by: eric82oslo on December 13, 2013, 06:50:04 AM
This is the first poll which indicates that Hillary's and Democrats' Obamacare problems might be all over by now, or that it's almost doing any damage to them anymore. North Carolina's pre-poll average was Christie leading Hillary by 3%, exactly the same as this last poll is showing. :)


Title: Re: NC-PPP: Clinton leads all but Christie
Post by: Tender Branson on December 13, 2013, 06:56:44 AM
NC is probably a state where Clinton would do about the same as Obama.

The latest national polls are either Christie+1 or Clinton+3 (Clinton+1 on average).

NC has now been twice Christie+3

Which means NC is currently about R+4 (was R+6 in 2012, R+7 in 2008 and R+10 in 2004)

Factoring in the slight Dem. trend in NC, that is about where the 2012 race between Obama and Romney was.


Title: Re: NC-PPP: Clinton leads all but Christie
Post by: pbrower2a on December 13, 2013, 11:18:00 AM
As one of the only two extremely-close states of 2012, North Carolina (the other is Florida) shows that unless miracles happen for the Republicans in 2016, the Democrats win the Presidency. I can't see Governor Rick Scott getting re-elected in Florida, so the Republican nominee for President will have to win Florida on his own merits.

If Hillary is this close in North Carolina, then she is likely winning two of Florida, Ohio, and Virginia as well.   

It's about as likely that the Republicans make sweeping gains in the Great Lakes region (which would make possible a Republican victory similar to GHWB against Dukakis) as that Democrats get the Mountain South "back".

If Obamacare (ACA) goes well, then 2016 is likely to be an inverse of 1988 for the Presidency.