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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: henster on January 15, 2014, 04:38:56 PM



Title: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: henster on January 15, 2014, 04:38:56 PM
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/15/22316680-poll-christie-cruising-through-bridge-scandal-so-far?lite


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Christie trails Clinton in a national match up

Despite those numbers, Christie has lost ground to Hillary Clinton in an early hypothetical presidential match up. In this current poll, he trails Clinton by 13 points, 50 percent to 37 percent among nationwide voters.

But in the same poll a month ago, Clinton’s lead was a mere three points, 48 percent to 45 percent.

Chuck Todd talks to Tom Brokaw about how Christie's bridge scandal dominated his State of the State address headlines and what this could mean for his political future.

“Up against a likely Hillary candidacy, the argument that Christie is positioned to win back the White House [for Republicans] is far from automatic,” Miringoff says.

What’s also problematic for Christie is that his favorability rating is upside down – with 28 percent viewing him positively and 30 percent viewing him negatively.

By comparison, Clinton’s fav/unfav rating is a net positive (50 percent positive, 38 percent negative), while President Barack Obama’s is a net negative (41 percent to 48 percent).


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: I Will Not Be Wrong on January 15, 2014, 04:44:18 PM
Bye Christie.
Hello Walker.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on January 15, 2014, 05:41:24 PM

Bye Christie.
Bye Walker.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Flake on January 15, 2014, 06:37:43 PM
I love those numbers, but this is most likely a temporary thing since there is a bridge scandal that  is airing 24/7


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Miles on January 15, 2014, 06:42:12 PM
But only down 2 in MI?

lolHarper.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 15, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
Wonderful news! And Marist is a high quality polling firm as well.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2014, 08:28:30 PM
Clinton 50%
Christie 37%

men: Clinton +2
women: Clinton +23
whites: Christie +2
blacks: Clinton +70
Latinos: Clinton +21
college graduates: Clinton +11
not college graduate: Clinton +15
age 18-29: Clinton +28
age 30-44: Clinton +17
age 45-59: Clinton +7
age 60+: Clinton +10

fav/unfav:
Clinton 51/39% for +12%
Christie 29/32% for -3%
Obama 41/48% for -7%


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: seanNJ9 on January 15, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
Likelyhood Clinton beats Christie with men. 0%


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: IceSpear on January 15, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
Marist has always been way friendlier to Clinton than most polls for some reason.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 15, 2014, 10:28:08 PM
Interesting to see Hillary performing better with youngs than olds when other polls showed the inverse to be the case...


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2014, 10:33:11 PM
Interesting to see Hillary performing better with youngs than olds when other polls showed the inverse to be the case...

Almost every poll has the under 30s as her best group, at least in matchups against Republican candidates.  It's just that when you get to the subsamples older than 30, she has a flatter age gap than Obama had in 2008 and 2012…..with many polls (though not this one) showing her doing better among the over 65s than the 30-45s.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Person Man on January 15, 2014, 10:53:03 PM
Interesting to see Hillary performing better with youngs than olds when other polls showed the inverse to be the case...

Almost every poll has the under 30s as her best group, at least in matchups against Republican candidates.  It's just that when you get to the subsamples older than 30, she has a flatter age gap than Obama had in 2008 and 2012…..with many polls (though not this one) showing her doing better among the over 65s than the 30-45s.


Clinton seems to be doing ok with the kids but seems to have problems with middle aged people who are probably doing the best they ever will while Obama had a problem with retired people. Maybe its a rich person thing?


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: eric82oslo on January 15, 2014, 11:14:06 PM
I love those numbers, but this is most likely a temporary thing since there is a bridge scandal that  is airing 24/7

I agree, though; it will get (much) worse before it starts getting better for him though.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: pbrower2a on January 15, 2014, 11:15:47 PM

It's for an entity with the word "Conservative" in its name. Enough said.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Likely Voter on January 16, 2014, 02:42:25 AM
If this trend continues his big money backers are going to dry up. Let's face it, his supposed cross-over appeal and electability vs. Hillary was his primary strength. Without that he really has nothing. He is just another NE RINO.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: morgieb on January 16, 2014, 02:53:54 AM
Momentum!!!1!!!


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: DrScholl on January 16, 2014, 03:03:18 AM
Christie's high point is over, and any boost he got from his re-election is deflated. Sure, early polling doesn't mean much, but Christie's main plus was the electability argument and if he doesn't have that, he has nothing to lock down a lot establishment support. Save for his nominal bipartisan credentials and nominally moderate profile, Christie isn't much different than the rest of the Republican field.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on January 16, 2014, 06:53:06 AM
I think if the election were held today, it would look like 2012 but maybe NC instead of Va and Florida goes to Clinton.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 16, 2014, 12:11:57 PM
I think if the election were held today, it would look like 2012 but maybe NC instead of Va and Florida goes to Clinton.

Why would Clinton carry North Carolina but lose Virginia and Florida?


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: RJEvans on January 17, 2014, 04:08:56 PM
Clinton won't win men and she won't win whites. Each of which have gotten more conservative over the last 8 years.

Second, Clinton won't have a +12 favorable rating on election day.

Definitely an outlier. I think a Clinton-Christie race is within 5 points today.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on January 18, 2014, 08:44:44 AM
This poll puts to rest the doubters that Ohio isn't really in play with with Portman up for reelection or running on the natl ticket. The 272 firewall with or without Ohio is very much in tack.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: MATTROSE94 on January 18, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
I think if the election were held today, it would look like 2012 but maybe NC instead of Va and Florida goes to Clinton.
Hillary Clinton would easily carry Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and maybe even Georgia and Missouri against any Republican candidate and might even get above 40% of the vote in Kentucky, Arkansas and West Virginia.


Title: Re: Christie trails Clinton by 13 points in new NBC/Marist poll
Post by: Peeperkorn on January 26, 2014, 07:34:39 AM

This will be a republican massacre.

They deserve it.