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Election Archive => 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Miles on June 12, 2014, 12:46:49 PM



Title: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: Miles on June 12, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
Release. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/06/florida-miscellany.html)

Clinton- 46%
Bush- 45%

Clinton- 48%
Rubio- 44%

Clinton- 48%
Paul- 42%

Clinton- 48%
Huckabee- 41%

Clinton- 46%
Christie- 38%

Clinton- 50%
Cruz- 39%


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: eric82oslo on June 12, 2014, 04:42:23 PM
Interesting to see that a clear majority of Floridians support ending the embargo on Cuba. 53% support ending it, compared to only 22% who support keeping it - barely more than 1 in 5! Ending it wouldn't even be slightly controversial in the one state where support for the embargo traditionally has been by far the strongest and most politically sensitive.

In other news, 59% of Floridians support increasing the minimum wage to 10 dollars, including 9 out of 10 Democrats (89%) and a majority of independents (51%). :)

Florida is becoming very much a progressive state these days. :)


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: Mr. Morden on June 12, 2014, 08:57:31 PM
fav/unfav %

Bush 51/35% for +16%
Clinton 46/47% for -1%

Should the US embargo on Cuba continue?
yes 22%
no 53%

Should the US embargo on Cuba continue? (by race)

white: no +26%
black: no +47%
Hispanic: no +26%
other: no +55%

Bush vs. Clinton by race:

white: Bush +16%
black: Clinton +54%
Hispanic: Clinton +31%
other: Bush +1%


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: King on June 12, 2014, 09:58:18 PM
fav/unfav %

Bush 51/35% for +16%
Clinton 46/47% for -1%

Bush vs. Clinton by race:

Hispanic: Clinton +31%


Weird for Jeb to have such a favorable advantage and not be in the lead. Also -31% in Hispanics is extremely bad for Florida.  Have the Cubans turned on him?


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: IceSpear on June 12, 2014, 10:05:24 PM
I wonder why PPP pretty consistently shows Hillary doing worse than other pollsters. Both Quinnipiac and SUSA give her a decent lead on Jeb, and the former has her with a 58-37 favorability rating there.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: Miles on June 12, 2014, 11:58:06 PM
I wonder why PPP pretty consistently shows Hillary doing worse than other pollsters.

Because they're a Democrat hack firm, of course.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: Donerail on June 13, 2014, 10:44:44 AM
Ending it wouldn't even be slightly controversial in the one state where support for the embargo traditionally has been by far the strongest and most politically sensitive.

That's not how this works.

The people who want to end the embargo are the vast majority of Floridians, yes. But these aren't people who'll vote on ending the embargo. The ones who would have their vote decided by who supports the embargo (mostly older Cubans) skew heavily pro-embargo. The majority may support it, but they're not voting on it.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: eric82oslo on June 13, 2014, 02:09:44 PM
Ending it wouldn't even be slightly controversial in the one state where support for the embargo traditionally has been by far the strongest and most politically sensitive.

That's not how this works.

The people who want to end the embargo are the vast majority of Floridians, yes. But these aren't people who'll vote on ending the embargo. The ones who would have their vote decided by who supports the embargo (mostly older Cubans) skew heavily pro-embargo. The majority may support it, but they're not voting on it.

Well it doesn't matter much, cause the old Cubans are dying off. :P And the Cold War has been dead for 25 years now.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: Donerail on June 13, 2014, 04:55:53 PM
Ending it wouldn't even be slightly controversial in the one state where support for the embargo traditionally has been by far the strongest and most politically sensitive.

That's not how this works.

The people who want to end the embargo are the vast majority of Floridians, yes. But these aren't people who'll vote on ending the embargo. The ones who would have their vote decided by who supports the embargo (mostly older Cubans) skew heavily pro-embargo. The majority may support it, but they're not voting on it.

Well it doesn't matter much, cause the old Cubans are dying off. :P And the Cold War has been dead for 25 years now.

Crist's numbers in the Herald poll of Dade County suggest otherwise.


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: GMantis on June 15, 2014, 03:11:07 AM
fav/unfav %

Bush 51/35% for +16%
Clinton 46/47% for -1%

Bush vs. Clinton by race:

Hispanic: Clinton +31%


Weird for Jeb to have such a favorable advantage and not be in the lead. Also -31% in Hispanics is extremely bad for Florida.  Have the Cubans turned on him?
They might have done so, but then again less than a third (http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_SF1_QTP10&prodType=table) of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban nowadays (though this percentage is likely higher among citizens). And this result is actually not that bad, when compared with other states).


Title: Re: FL-PPP: Clinton leads everyone, Bush closest
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 15, 2014, 03:30:37 AM
I wonder why PPP pretty consistently shows Hillary doing worse than other pollsters. Both Quinnipiac and SUSA give her a decent lead on Jeb, and the former has her with a 58-37 favorability rating there.

PPP, like Nate Silver, had a Republican bias in 2012. The irony.