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Title: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Indy Texas on July 13, 2014, 04:39:35 pm
What happens when both Egypt and Sudan refuse to acknowledge a small area of the Sahara Desert as their own territory?

A Virginia man who has serious issues with telling his children "No" travels there, stakes a claim to it, and declares it a kingdom (http://gawker.com/clueless-man-claims-territory-in-north-sudan-to-make-da-1604270118/all) - all so his daughter could realize her dream of being a "real" princess.

The area in question is Bir Tawil, which Egypt and Sudan both insist belongs to the other due to boundary ambiguities stemming from the period when Sudan was a colony jointly administered by the United Kingdom and the British-influenced Kingdom of Egypt.

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As far as the Heaton Family of Virginia is concerned, Bir Tawil is now the Kingdom of North Sudan, and family patriarch King Jeremiah has declared his intent to pursue official recognition from Egypt, Sudan and the African Union.

Jeremiah Heaton's delusions of grandeur are nothing new - he has previously attempted to run for the US House in Virginia as an independent and as a Democratic candidate.

HRH Princess Emily and HM King Jeremiah displaying a North Sudanese royal standard at their Virginia residence:
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Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: 🅰 🦀 @k 🎂 on July 13, 2014, 04:59:58 pm
We laugh now, but this is presumably going to be the catalyst for World War III somehow.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 13, 2014, 05:13:25 pm
It's always nice to see white people claim distant lands.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Corbyn is a Strasserist on July 13, 2014, 05:15:52 pm
Hilarious. The guy's lucky he didn't wind up disappearing while there.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Cassius on July 13, 2014, 05:24:02 pm
Support obviously. I mean he can't do a worse job of running the place than the Sudanese government can he ;)


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on July 13, 2014, 05:33:42 pm
I can't wait for Snowstalker and TNF to tell us about how this is the second coming of colonialism and Heaton is literally Hitler or something.

You gotta wonder why he couldn't just declare his house a micronation or something though.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Indy Texas on July 13, 2014, 06:01:45 pm
It's always nice to see white people claim distant lands.

To be fair, the area in question is uninhabited so it's not like there are any natives to oppress, and the locals don't seem particularly interested in doing anything with the place.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 13, 2014, 06:03:59 pm
This "princess" phase little girls go through is so annoying. Mostly because they wouldn't even be that into it themselves if not for their parents/society forcing it on them. It's frivolous, outdated, mildly sexist, and worst of all, unoriginal.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Hash on July 13, 2014, 06:21:35 pm
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Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Mangez des pommes ! on July 14, 2014, 05:05:26 am
Support recognition (normal).

Though:

This "princess" phase little girls go through is so annoying. Mostly because they wouldn't even be that into it themselves if not for their parents/society forcing it on them. It's frivolously, outdated, mildly sexist, and worst of all, unoriginal.

^^^^


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on July 14, 2014, 10:52:55 am
This "princess" phase little girls go through is so annoying. Mostly because they wouldn't even be that into it themselves if not for their parents/society forcing it on them. It's frivolous, outdated, mildly sexist, and worst of all, unoriginal.

Hey, don't blame the parents. My 3 year old is sort of going through a princess phased (not exactly obsessed, though), and it is much to our chagrin, believe me.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Snowstalker's Last Stand on July 14, 2014, 01:35:26 pm
I can't wait for Snowstalker and TNF to tell us about how this is the second coming of colonialism and Heaton is literally Hitler or something.

I don't care about this (normal).


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: GMantis on July 14, 2014, 02:20:00 pm
Was this an attempt at subtle sarcasm or you really don't know about the Afrikaners, just to name an example?


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Snowstalker's Last Stand on July 14, 2014, 02:28:43 pm
Was this an attempt at subtle sarcasm or you really don't know about the Afrikaners, just to name an example?

It's from a comedy film called Mean Girls (which Hash and I both find hilarious). The GIF makes sense if you watch it.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: punching violence in the face on July 14, 2014, 02:48:33 pm
Was this an attempt at subtle sarcasm or you really don't know about the Afrikaners, just to name an example?
...


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Hash on July 14, 2014, 04:06:45 pm
Was this an attempt at subtle sarcasm or you really don't know about the Afrikaners, just to name an example?

It's from a comedy film called Mean Girls (which Hash and I both find hilarious). The GIF makes sense if you watch it.

^^ You're not North American, so I'll forgive you for not getting my reference, but I would just like to clarify that I'm probably the poster on here who knows the most about Afrikaner-related stuff on here.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 19, 2014, 11:34:59 am
Hilarious. The guy's lucky he didn't wind up disappearing while there.

"Occupational hazard for those who would be King." - Rex Harrison as Caesar in Cleopatra.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on July 19, 2014, 06:55:16 pm
If Egypt or Sudan was to seriously recognize a 3rd party claim to Bir Tawil, I imagine a condition would be that they recognize that the Hala'ib Triangle belong to the respective country, and you have to pick one.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Cath on July 20, 2014, 05:01:16 pm
While I am normally in favor of strange secessionist movements and attempts to start micronations due to entertainment value, I'm not particularly inclined to root for a guy who went this out of his way to pretend his daughter is a princess.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: jaichind on July 20, 2014, 05:10:31 pm
If Egypt or Sudan was to seriously recognize a 3rd party claim to Bir Tawil, I imagine a condition would be that they recognize that the Hala'ib Triangle belong to the respective country, and you have to pick one.

That is my understanding as well.  Neither side claims Bir Tawil only because doing so will weaken their claim on Hala'ib Triangle.  I guess it will be Sudan that will object to this more since in de facto terms Egypt currently controls Hala'ib Triangle.  So if Bir Tawil is given away then Sudan has no leverage.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: No Quid Pro Quo Unless Sondland Says So on July 20, 2014, 09:44:16 pm
While I am normally in favor of strange secessionist movements and attempts to start micronations due to entertainment value, I'm not particularly inclined to root for a guy who went this out of his way to pretend his daughter is a princess.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Lief 🐋 on July 21, 2014, 01:50:34 am
Ummm, just now learning about this issue, it seems clear to me that the Hala'ib triangle should obviously belong to Egypt because the border would look stupid otherwise. Shut up Sudan.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Cory on July 21, 2014, 06:56:08 pm
This "princess" phase little girls go through is so annoying. Mostly because they wouldn't even be that into it themselves if not for their parents/society forcing it on them. It's frivolous, outdated, mildly sexist, and worst of all, unoriginal.

The worst part is that a lot of them never move past it.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Panda Express on July 21, 2014, 09:11:07 pm
This topic convinced me to watch Mean Girls.


Title: Re: Hear ye, peasants, the Kingdom of North Sudan hath been declared
Post by: Eastern Kentucky Demosaur fighting the long defeat on July 21, 2014, 09:13:12 pm
This topic convinced me to watch Mean Girls.

Good. Watch Heathers too while you're at it.