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Election Archive => 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on August 28, 2014, 12:15:25 PM



Title: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Tender Branson on August 28, 2014, 12:15:25 PM
New Poll: Arkansas Governor by Rasmussen on 2014-08-26 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=520140826016)

Summary: D: 46%, R: 44%, I: 3%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2014/arkansas/election_2014_arkansas_governor)


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Tender Branson on August 28, 2014, 12:16:10 PM
Good, if true ...


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: backtored on August 28, 2014, 12:17:41 PM
Baloney.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: International Brotherhood of Bernard on August 28, 2014, 12:18:51 PM
lolras, but not surprising given their Senate results yesterday


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Tender Branson on August 28, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
There's some chance that the Gov. map (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2014/polls.php) could soon be "R-pickup-free", assuming someone would poll Hawaii and some further Quinn-mentum in IL.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on August 28, 2014, 12:23:48 PM
SUSA or Quinnipac please.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Tender Branson on August 28, 2014, 12:27:50 PM

Quinnipiac does not poll Arkansas.

SUSA has only polled the state in the past, but seems to have stopped because the news media has no cash left after the financial meltdown in 2007/08.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: windjammer on August 28, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
This can't be true Tender Branson, this is Rasmussen :(.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on August 28, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
Well, this week Rasmussen decides to be a dem-biased pollster..


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Miles on August 28, 2014, 12:36:46 PM

And so no one gets upset:

>Rasmussen


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 28, 2014, 04:08:55 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on August 28, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.
Rasmussen is both a dem biased pollster and a rep biased pollster, frequently switching between the two at random intervals. It is definitely not something to treat like a perfect crystal ball.

Secondly, if there's a really a democratic gubernatorial wave, then we'd expect incumbents such as Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, and Terry Branstad to be in more trouble. We'd expect Walker and Snyder to be in Lean D races. We'd expect people such as Coakley and Hickenlooper to be close to safe, and we'd expect people like Malloy and Crist to be in far better shape. In order for a wave to occur, you need a strong uniform effect across the country, not just a desirable effect in a few select races.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Never on August 28, 2014, 04:20:55 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.
Rasmussen is both a dem biased pollster and a rep biased pollster, frequently switching between the two at random intervals. It is definitely not something to treat like a perfect crystal ball.

Secondly, if there's a really a democratic gubernatorial wave, then we'd expect incumbents such as Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, and Terry Branstad to be in more trouble. We'd expect Walker and Snyder to be in Lean D races. We'd expect people such as Coakley and Hickenlooper to be close to safe, and we'd expect people like Malloy and Crist to be in far better shape. In order for a wave to occur, you need a strong uniform effect across the country, not just a desirable effect in a few select races.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: DrScholl on August 28, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.

No, they won't, they'll just blather on about big Republican wins once again. If they didn't listen after 2012, they won't listen now or any other time.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: SPC on August 28, 2014, 04:26:51 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.
Rasmussen is both a dem biased pollster and a rep biased pollster, frequently switching between the two at random intervals. It is definitely not something to treat like a perfect crystal ball.

Secondly, if there's a really a democratic gubernatorial wave, then we'd expect incumbents such as Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, and Terry Branstad to be in more trouble. We'd expect Walker and Snyder to be in Lean D races. We'd expect people such as Coakley and Hickenlooper to be close to safe, and we'd expect people like Malloy and Crist to be in far better shape. In order for a wave to occur, you need a strong uniform effect across the country, not just a desirable effect in a few select races.

That is not bias which you are referring to. Rasmussen is still a GOP-biased firm, its just than on occasion its imprecision exceeds its inaccuracy, as with this Arkansas poll.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Maxwell on August 28, 2014, 04:28:40 PM
this is unfortunate. I would like all blue dogs to be eliminated, but it looks like Hutchison is having a tough time changing the tide.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: windjammer on August 28, 2014, 04:33:11 PM
this is unfortunate. I would like all blue dogs to be eliminated, but it looks like Hutchison is having a tough time changing the tide.

You want all the blue dogs to be eliminated, and you will vote for Dorman? :P


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Maxwell on August 28, 2014, 04:40:53 PM
this is unfortunate. I would like all blue dogs to be eliminated, but it looks like Hutchison is having a tough time changing the tide.

You want all the blue dogs to be eliminated, and you will vote for Dorman? :P

It's an admitted bit of hypocrisy, but in Oklahoma I feel like holding Republicans accountable, since there is such a large majority Republicans now here.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: backtored on August 28, 2014, 04:58:56 PM
I told you guys the Dem wave is building. Maybe next time you'll listen.
Rasmussen is both a dem biased pollster and a rep biased pollster, frequently switching between the two at random intervals. It is definitely not something to treat like a perfect crystal ball.

Secondly, if there's a really a democratic gubernatorial wave, then we'd expect incumbents such as Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez, and Terry Branstad to be in more trouble. We'd expect Walker and Snyder to be in Lean D races. We'd expect people such as Coakley and Hickenlooper to be close to safe, and we'd expect people like Malloy and Crist to be in far better shape. In order for a wave to occur, you need a strong uniform effect across the country, not just a desirable effect in a few select races.

This is correct, in my opinion.  But I’ll amend it just a bit by pointing out the fact that Walker and Snyder may indeed find themselves in D-leaning races now.  But that has more to do with localized influences and less to do with the national environment.  It is why I could see, for example, Tillis losing in North Carolina and the GOP still winning the Senate, or Hickenlooper losing even in a non-wave election.  In Colorado, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin—and Kansas, too--a lot has happened over the last couple of years that creates a whole new political environment that is almost insulated from the national one.

The catch, though, is that it isn’t completely insulated.  A moderate GOP wave will probably save the seats of Walker and Snyder.  I tend to think that this will be a stronger than expected GOP year, and I think that over the next several weeks a lot of truly wild things will happen in the gubernatorial races.  The Senate races are pretty much set—will IA, CO, NC, and AK continue drifting to the right; will Pryor keep it close in AR; will GA and LA stay competitive?  But there are probably at least ten gubernatorial races—at minimum a whopping 20% of the country—that could truly go in either direction right now.

Given the fact that a divided Washington has made governors even more important in terms of the policy direction of the country, the GOP could actually win the Senate this year and still have an absolutely terrible year by losing key governorships in the Midwest and failing to make key pick-ups.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on August 28, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
This is Hutchinson that lost to Mike Beebe in 2006 as well.


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: ElectionsGuy on August 28, 2014, 05:25:21 PM
This is Hutchinson that lost to Mike Beebe in 2006 as well.

Key word


Title: Re: AR: Rasmussen: Ross (D) takes the lead
Post by: Badger on August 28, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
"words" actually. ;)