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Election Archive => 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2014, 09:12:22 AM



Title: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2014, 09:12:22 AM
CO (likely voters):

43% John Hickenlooper (D)
39% Bob Beauprez (R)
  5% Matthew Hess (L)
  4% Harry Hempy (G)

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/97-colorado-udall-ahead-of-gardner-in-u-s-senate-race-hickenlooper-edges-beauprez-for-governor

AR (likely voters):

48% Asa Hutchinson (R)
39% Mike Ross (D)
  3% Frank Gilbert (L)
  3% Josh Drake (G)

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/97-arkansas-cotton-leads-pryor-in-u-s-senate-race-hutchinson-ahead-of-ross-in-governors-race


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Tender Branson on September 07, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
Harry Hempy is a pretty cool name for a Green Party candidate ...


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: GaussLaw on September 07, 2014, 09:57:26 AM
Wow, this looks like further proof that Dems may have a real turnout problem in Arkansas.  IIRC, Marist had Pryor up something like 10 when it was only RVs polled.  Of course, the polls may be exaggerating this, but the RV/LV discrepancy seems to be popping up multiple times.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Lief 🗽 on September 07, 2014, 02:01:05 PM
It's looking like Democrats will sweep Colorado for a fifth election year in a row! It's definitely still a toss-up swing-state though. Definitely.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: free my dawg on September 07, 2014, 02:16:05 PM
Looks generally reasonable.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: IceSpear on September 07, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Most pollsters tend to show Pryor outperforming Ross. Why is this? It seems like it would be the opposite when you look at all the factors.

- Didn't vote for Obamacare
- Generally more conservative than Pryor
- From the swing area of the state
- Running to replace an extremely popular Democratic governor
- Gubernatorial elections are less partisan/polarized
- Hutchinson seems to be a weaker opponent than Cotton
- You'd expect there to be some Cotton/Ross voters in AR-04 since they both represented it in Congress, but I find it really hard to picture any Pryor/Hutchinson voters

Pretty much the only factor I think goes for Pryor over Ross is his last name and brand in the state.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: NHLiberal on September 07, 2014, 03:31:00 PM
Most pollsters tend to show Pryor outperforming Ross. Why is this? It seems like it would be the opposite when you look at all the factors.

- Didn't vote for Obamacare
- Generally more conservative than Pryor
- From the swing area of the state
- Running to replace an extremely popular Democratic governor
- Gubernatorial elections are less partisan/polarized
- Hutchinson seems to be a weaker opponent than Cotton
- You'd expect there to be some Cotton/Ross voters in AR-04 since they both represented it in Congress, but I find it really hard to picture any Pryor/Hutchinson voters

Pretty much the only factor I think goes for Pryor over Ross is his last name and brand in the state.

I agree with you. Pryor's only obvious advantage is incumbency, but that shouldn't be enough to counter everything you listed. Anyone from the state or who knows it really well able to shed some light? Maybe he's just running a superior campaign?


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: GaussLaw on September 07, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Most pollsters tend to show Pryor outperforming Ross. Why is this? It seems like it would be the opposite when you look at all the factors.

- Didn't vote for Obamacare
- Generally more conservative than Pryor
- From the swing area of the state
- Running to replace an extremely popular Democratic governor
- Gubernatorial elections are less partisan/polarized
- Hutchinson seems to be a weaker opponent than Cotton
- You'd expect there to be some Cotton/Ross voters in AR-04 since they both represented it in Congress, but I find it really hard to picture any Pryor/Hutchinson voters

Pretty much the only factor I think goes for Pryor over Ross is his last name and brand in the state.

I agree with you. Pryor's only obvious advantage is incumbency, but that shouldn't be enough to counter everything you listed. Anyone from the state or who knows it really well able to shed some light? Maybe he's just running a superior campaign?

I actually think Hutch is a stronger candidate than Cotton.  Hutchison is way less polarizing and fairly centrist(look at some of his ads on education, for instance).  Incumbency is also big too.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Skill and Chance on September 07, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Most pollsters tend to show Pryor outperforming Ross. Why is this? It seems like it would be the opposite when you look at all the factors.

- Didn't vote for Obamacare
- Generally more conservative than Pryor
- From the swing area of the state
- Running to replace an extremely popular Democratic governor
- Gubernatorial elections are less partisan/polarized
- Hutchinson seems to be a weaker opponent than Cotton
- You'd expect there to be some Cotton/Ross voters in AR-04 since they both represented it in Congress, but I find it really hard to picture any Pryor/Hutchinson voters

Pretty much the only factor I think goes for Pryor over Ross is his last name and brand in the state.

I agree with you. Pryor's only obvious advantage is incumbency, but that shouldn't be enough to counter everything you listed. Anyone from the state or who knows it really well able to shed some light? Maybe he's just running a superior campaign?

AR vetos can't stick because of simple majority override and the legislature will only get more R.  That could be hindering his funding/base enthusiasm behind the scenes?


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Miles on September 07, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Who are all these Pryor/Hutchinson voters!? It should be the opposite.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: JerryArkansas on September 07, 2014, 09:54:49 PM
I really don't know what's happening.  Ross should be doing much better. 


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: Badger on September 07, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
The third party candidates were listed as options, not merely if volunteered by pollees, right?

Memo to all pollsters: unless the 3rd party candidate is at least orman/pressler level popularity already, stop. Doing. That!


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: TJ in Oregon on September 07, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
Who are all these Pryor/Hutchinson voters!? It should be the opposite.

I've heard Hutchinson has done some really good ad campaigns showing himself in a positive good-governmenty sorta light whereas Cotton hasn't really. It might be a matter of voters sometimes preferring to be told what you're for rather than what you're against.


Title: Re: CO/AR-Marist: Hick and Hutch ahead
Post by: backtored on September 08, 2014, 09:51:25 AM
It's looking like Democrats will sweep Colorado for a fifth election year in a row! It's definitely still a toss-up swing-state though. Definitely.

This poll is terrible for Hickenlooper.  He's only up four with the Libertarian getting 5%?  That's all?  In a Marist poll that gives Udall a very generous lead at least a few points larger than any other pollster?

Beauprez looks very, very strong at this point.