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Election Archive => 2014 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on October 17, 2014, 07:12:38 AM



Title: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Tender Branson on October 17, 2014, 07:12:38 AM
Jungle:

38-38-10 Landrieu/Cassidy/Maness

Runoff:

48-44 Cassidy/Landrieu

http://www.poppolling.com/useruploads/files/la_toplines_vox.pdf


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: windjammer on October 17, 2014, 07:21:27 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Free Bird on October 17, 2014, 07:23:58 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!

Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana that doesn't show Landrieu being completely slaughtered, just defeated as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest. I mean, muh PPP is a Democratic pollster as you can see on RCP from the label, yet every Democrat and some Republicans on this forum treats them like the untouchable gold standard, so why are Republican polls inaccurate and biased?


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: windjammer on October 17, 2014, 07:26:59 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!

Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest.

Vox Populi is one of the worst pollster. They had Wehby leading by 2 few month ago...


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Free Bird on October 17, 2014, 07:28:32 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!

Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest.

Vox Populi is one of the worst pollster. They had Wehby leading by 2 few month ago...


I'm not saying it's a good poll, just consistent with the others. The Wehby poll was clearly an outlier, and this isn't.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: windjammer on October 17, 2014, 07:29:24 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!

Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest.

Vox Populi is one of the worst pollster. They had Wehby leading by 2 few month ago...


I'm not saying it's a good poll, just consistent with the others. The Wehby poll was clearly an outlier, and this isn't.

This poll isn't consistent with the others. Landrieu has never been tied with Cassidy in the first round;


Title: LA: Vox Populi Polling: Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Tender Branson on October 17, 2014, 07:31:02 AM
New Poll: Louisiana Senator by Vox Populi Polling on 2014-10-14 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=22220141014229)

Summary: D: 38%, R: 38%, I: 16%, U: 8%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.poppolling.com/useruploads/files/la_toplines_vox.pdf)


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: eric82oslo on October 17, 2014, 10:06:59 AM
I don't understand why Maness isn't getting a higher percentage despite almost everyone having endorsed him? Endorsements don't matter anything anymore, even when they come from every imaginable tea party group out there? The Tea Party seems to be either dead or struggling for its life in Louisiana. It did pretty well in neighbouring Mississippi though.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Miles on October 17, 2014, 10:41:12 AM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!
Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana that doesn't show Landrieu being completely slaughtered, just defeated as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest.

Democrats are deluded because the runnoff poll is within the margin of error? 'Shame on them.

Where do you get this idea that Landrieu is 'quickly losing momemtum'? Most of the last handful of primary polls shows Landrieu only up a few points. Having this at a tie wouldn't be necessarily suggest she's losing momentum.

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I mean, muh PPP is a Democratic pollster as you can see on RCP from the label, yet every Democrat and some Republicans on this forum treats them like the untouchable gold standard, so why are Republican polls inaccurate and biased?

Oh please, how many times have we seen this argument on here?

Personally, I've never called PPP the 'gold standard' but its a solid pollster. You're right, though; we should totally throw PPP's years worth of accuracy out the window and trust Vox Populi, which just launched last year!


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Adam Griffin on October 17, 2014, 08:59:00 PM
A republican poll, so great news! This is far from being over!!!!!!
Not really. It seems consistent with the rest of the unaffiliated polls, and the fact that people are taking a poll from Louisiana that doesn't show Landrieu being completely slaughtered, just defeated as good news shows desperation and denial on the Democrats' part. It should also be noted that the jungle is tied which is HUGE and shows that Landrieu is quickly losing momentum, not gaining it in the slightest.

Democrats are deluded because the runnoff poll is within the margin of error? 'Shame on them.

Where do you get this idea that Landrieu is 'quickly losing momemtum'? Most of the last handful of primary polls shows Landrieu only up a few points. Having this at a tie wouldn't be necessarily suggest she's losing momentum.

He thinks that because Maness is losing support to Cassidy (which was always going to happen), it means Landrieu is losing support.

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I mean, muh PPP is a Democratic pollster as you can see on RCP from the label, yet every Democrat and some Republicans on this forum treats them like the untouchable gold standard, so why are Republican polls inaccurate and biased?

Because one party's pollsters have excellent track records and are actual polling firms, while the other party was so incensed by 2012 polling showing bad results for them that they literally started making up numbers. Oh, and PPP > some joke n00b R firm, duh.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 17, 2014, 09:18:47 PM
It's simply the most idiotic attack against PPP - yes, they may have a relationship with the Dem, they're also the most reliable at the state level for two straight elections. They're trusted because they're GOOD.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 17, 2014, 10:16:36 PM
Weird poll. I don't see how Landrieu has a chance in the run-off if she's only in the jungle.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: KCDem on October 17, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
This poll is from one of the worst pollsters in the country. Anyone with half a brain will ignore it.


Title: Re: LA-Vox Populi (R): Tie in the jungle, Cassidy+4 in the runoff
Post by: Free Bird on October 18, 2014, 01:53:16 AM
This poll is from one of the worst pollsters in the country. Anyone with half a brain will ignore it.

So that explains why you commented on it