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Title: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2014, 05:55:59 PM
New Poll: New Hampshire Senator by YouGov on 2014-10-15 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=33220141015186)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 45%, I: 5%, U: 2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.umass.edu/poll/pdfs/20141020_Toplines.pdf)


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Note the sample size is 322 for some reason, so this poll is pretty garbage.

These word clouds are pretty hilarious though:

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Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: New_Conservative on October 20, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
"Democrat does worse than expected -- must be garbage"


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2014, 05:58:15 PM
"Democrat does worse than expected -- must be garbage"

You're an idiot.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: IceSpear on October 20, 2014, 05:58:45 PM
>YouGov, looks about right though.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: KCDem on October 20, 2014, 05:59:21 PM
Brown's ceiling is 45%. Safe D.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: IceSpear on October 20, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
Note the sample size is 322 for some reason, so this poll is pretty garbage.

These word clouds are pretty hilarious though:

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LOL, looks like I might have a new sig...


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 20, 2014, 06:00:59 PM
>YouGov, but this margin is in line with other polls.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: New_Conservative on October 20, 2014, 06:01:19 PM

How?


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
"Democrat does worse than expected -- must be garbage"

Yep, this poll pretty much confirms the other polls that have Shaheen leading by three. It must be a junk poll. Shaheen should be leading by 10 solely because she's a Democrat. Democrats are good. Pollsters showing Democrats with a small lead are junk. /sarcasm

In the real world, it's Shaheen's race to lose before this poll was released and Shaheen's race to lose now. The race however, has tightened.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 20, 2014, 06:03:11 PM
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Guys, polls with a sample size of 300 and a margin of error of 7% are not good. I don't care who is leading. Stop embarrassing yourselves by whining about every perceived instance of hackery.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:03:17 PM

So the Democrats can safely pull all their money out of New Hampshire now since you've declared it "safe?"

Try lean D instead.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 20, 2014, 06:04:04 PM
Remember how Brown was going to lose by like twenty points according to the Atlas Forum Mentality?


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: SWE on October 20, 2014, 06:04:40 PM
"Democrat does worse than expected -- must be garbage"


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: KCDem on October 20, 2014, 06:06:01 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
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Guys, polls with a sample size of 300 and a margin of error of 7% are not good. I don't care who is leading. Stop embarrassing yourselves by whining about every perceived instance of hackery.

You're right on the sample size. However, this just is another data point that confirms a tightening in this race. Again, it's Shaheen's race to lose, but Brown has made it interesting.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Mehmentum on October 20, 2014, 06:07:48 PM
I love how the one word some people use to describe Shaheen is 'Obama'.

Also the people who chose to describe Brown as 'better'.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Mogrovejo on October 20, 2014, 06:10:48 PM
The 5% for 'other' is amusing - considering there isn't any other name on the ballot. It'll be a great night for write-ins in NH.

The good news for Shaheen is that she's holding steady in that 47-49% interval. The race tightening doesn't matter so much when one of the candidates is consistently hoovering around the 50% mark. Brown as tightened the race at the expense of former undecideds -which was to be expected, NH's is elastic and small enough that he can make use of his retail skills- but Shaheen firewall seems to be working and arguably that's all she needs.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: SPC on October 20, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
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Guys, polls with a sample size of 300 and a margin of error of 7% are not good. I don't care who is leading. Stop embarrassing yourselves by whining about every perceived instance of hackery.

Is RCP incorrect, or was the New England College poll showing Brown ahead the recent poll with the largest sample size?


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: IceSpear on October 20, 2014, 06:15:15 PM
Remember how Brown was going to lose by like twenty points according to the Atlas Forum Mentality?

No, but I remember when everyone thought she was going to win by high single digits. Remember when Brownback was supposed to win easily? ;)


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: IceSpear on October 20, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW

Where did you see this at?


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:17:18 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:18:58 PM

He didn't. He's about as hooked in with the Brown campaign as I am with Kate Upton's phone number.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: KCDem on October 20, 2014, 06:19:44 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: DrScholl on October 20, 2014, 06:21:36 PM
There was a tweet from the NHDP chair that did say that Republican internals had Brown down by 9%, so whether or not you want to believe that, KCDem didn't make that up.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: New_Conservative on October 20, 2014, 06:29:27 PM
Republicans surely have not pulled out of New Hampshire, in the Providence media market I see more New Hampshire ads than Rhode Island or Massachusetts ads, and they are all for the Brown-Shaheen race.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.

Sorry, KC Dem, I've moved on to trigonometry. Pre-Calculus is next. Seriously?

We're supposed to believe a "tweet" from a Democrat about how a "Republican internal" has Brown is losing a the race by nine where every pollster that has queried the state in October has Brown down by six or less.

Meanwhile, millions are spent on ads. Come on guys, I've got a bridge to sell you, if you believe that. If this were true, the Republican money would have moved elsewhere, much like it did in Michigan.

Again, this is Shaheen's race to lose at this point. Brown has simply made it interesting.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: KCDem on October 20, 2014, 06:35:49 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.

Sorry, KC Dem, I've moved on to trigonometry. Pre-Calculus is next. Seriously?

We're supposed to believe a "tweet" from a Democrat about how a "Republican internal" has Brown is losing a the race by nine where every pollster that has queried the state in October has Brown down by six or less.

Meanwhile, millions are spent on ads. Come on guys, I've got a bridge to sell you, if you believe that. If this were true, the Republican money would have moved elsewhere, much like it did in Michigan.

Again, this is Shaheen's race to lose at this point. Brown has simply made it interesting.

The Republican money is still in NH because the air isn't saturated and the race is closer than Michigan. The Republicans are running out of ways to take the Senate so they are desperately trying to compete is races that favor the Democrats.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: New_Conservative on October 20, 2014, 06:36:12 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.

Sorry, KC Dem, I've moved on to trigonometry. Pre-Calculus is next. Seriously?

We're supposed to believe a "tweet" from a Democrat about how a "Republican internal" has Brown is losing a the race by nine where every pollster that has queried the state in October has Brown down by six or less.

Meanwhile, millions are spent on ads. Come on guys, I've got a bridge to sell you, if you believe that. If this were true, the Republican money would have moved elsewhere, much like it did in Michigan.

Again, this is Shaheen's race to lose at this point. Brown has simply made it interesting.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Bacon King on October 20, 2014, 06:40:22 PM
KCDem stop being a turd


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: impactreps on October 20, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.

Sorry, KC Dem, I've moved on to trigonometry. Pre-Calculus is next. Seriously?

We're supposed to believe a "tweet" from a Democrat about how a "Republican internal" has Brown is losing a the race by nine where every pollster that has queried the state in October has Brown down by six or less.

Meanwhile, millions are spent on ads. Come on guys, I've got a bridge to sell you, if you believe that. If this were true, the Republican money would have moved elsewhere, much like it did in Michigan.

Again, this is Shaheen's race to lose at this point. Brown has simply made it interesting.

The Republican money is still in NH because the air isn't saturated and the race is closer than Michigan. The Republicans are running out of ways to take the Senate so they are desperately trying to compete is races that favor the Democrats.

Is that why the election models all favor a GOP Senate by a margins from 62 to 93%. Look, this is going to be a coin-flip right until the last polls close. Unlike 2006 or 2010, the close races are not going to break in favor of one party. Democrats and Republicans will split the close states. The problem for Dems is that most of the close states are in purple or light blue states. Most of the red states are moving in the GOP's direction further and further away from 'toss-up' status. I would say Republicans are favored to win the Senate, but it's not a sure thing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/republicans-chances-of-winning-the-senate-majority-keep-getting-better/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/republicans-chances-of-winning-the-senate-majority-keep-getting-better/)


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: KCDem on October 20, 2014, 06:43:46 PM

It's hard not to be when you're arguing with hairy sphincters.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Recalcuate on October 20, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Brown's internals show him down 9 FWIW
So all that third-party money is flowing out of New Hampshire to other states, right? NH is getting abandoned by the Republicans like Michigan? Give me a break.

Why don't you take your 59-post experience and leave. You know nothing about politics. Go do your algebra homework.

Sorry, KC Dem, I've moved on to trigonometry. Pre-Calculus is next. Seriously?

We're supposed to believe a "tweet" from a Democrat about how a "Republican internal" has Brown is losing a the race by nine where every pollster that has queried the state in October has Brown down by six or less.

Meanwhile, millions are spent on ads. Come on guys, I've got a bridge to sell you, if you believe that. If this were true, the Republican money would have moved elsewhere, much like it did in Michigan.

Again, this is Shaheen's race to lose at this point. Brown has simply made it interesting.

The Republican money is still in NH because the air isn't saturated and the race is closer than Michigan. The Republicans are running out of ways to take the Senate so they are desperately trying to compete is races that favor the Democrats.

You'd make a great Baghdad Bob, you know that?

538 has the Republicans with a 63-37 chance of taking the Senate.
The New York Times has it at 66-34.
The Washington Post has it at like 93%.

The later two aren't exactly Republican-leaning publications.

It must be that algebra that you claim I am taking, BUT there seems like there's math and what you truly believe in your head.

IF Brown wins (and that's a huge IF), the Republicans will have 54 or 55 Senators in the next Congress. You can bank on that. This is not a must-have state for the Republicans right now.

And I'll say it again. These polls show tightening in the New Hampshire Senate race. It's still Shaheen's race to lose.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Rockefeller GOP on October 20, 2014, 07:08:28 PM


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: free my dawg on October 20, 2014, 07:35:40 PM
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Guys, polls with a sample size of 300 and a margin of error of 7% are not good. I don't care who is leading. Stop embarrassing yourselves by whining about every perceived instance of hackery.


Title: Re: NH: YouGov: Shaheen leads by three in poll for UMass Amherst
Post by: Mr. Reactionary on October 20, 2014, 09:58:57 PM

KCDem, I don't see how you can attack someone for having fewer posts than you when a majority of your posts are "Junk Poll!" or "Dominating!".