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Title: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: JRP1994 on October 21, 2014, 10:34:34 AM
Link (http://monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/d276ff1e-6ab4-4f44-b749-ed99c1924928.pdf)


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: backtored on October 21, 2014, 10:39:52 AM
I love that Udall is up by ten among those who have already voted, even though the GOP has a 15-point lead in early voting as of yesterday.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Gardner is leading in every poll, yes, but his numbers are still looking suspiciously Buck 2010-esque. Still a very small sliver of hope.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: DrScholl on October 21, 2014, 10:44:06 AM
I love that Udall is up by ten among those who have already voted, even though the GOP has a 15-point lead in early voting as of yesterday.


To a certain extent, that doesn't always indicate who is doing better in the early vote, since you don't know how voters are actually voting. The difference could be in independents.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: krazen1211 on October 21, 2014, 10:47:22 AM
Stick a probe in his uterus.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Person Man on October 21, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
The crosstabs look pretty reasonable.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Devils30 on October 21, 2014, 10:49:02 AM
As long as its still only 1-3 points for Gardner it's in play considering COs history. Still, I saw nothing wrong at all with PPPs sample.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 21, 2014, 10:49:56 AM
I love that Udall is up by ten among those who have already voted, even though the GOP has a 15-point lead in early voting as of yesterday.


Margin of error + independents are probably breaking towards Udall pretty heavily + many Democrats have likely sent in ballots that haven't arrived or been processed yet.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on October 21, 2014, 10:51:39 AM
Now more like it. Now, the one that has the best close will win.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Tender Branson on October 21, 2014, 10:54:37 AM
Didn't Bennet win with sub-40 approvals as well ?

Anyway, still way too early to call this for Gardner. Udall still has a chance.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Devils30 on October 21, 2014, 10:58:47 AM
Gardner is clearly ahead now, you can argue that. The vote by mail and same day registration is a wildcard though. Considering Dems already beat polling numbers before this it adds something more to the uncertainty. Really will not know the truth until 11 pm in two weeks.


Title: CO: Monmouth University: Close Contest for Senate in Colorado
Post by: ElectionAtlas on October 21, 2014, 11:11:37 AM
New Poll: Colorado Senator by Monmouth University on 2014-10-20 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2014/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=8220141020102)

Summary: D: 46%, R: 47%, I: 4%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/d276ff1e-6ab4-4f44-b749-ed99c1924928.pdf)


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Miles on October 21, 2014, 11:13:10 AM
Didn't Bennet win with sub-40 approvals as well ?

Anyway, still way too early to call this for Gardner. Udall still has a chance.

Yeah, PPP had Bennet at 39/47 going into the election. (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_1101424.pdf)


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Fuzzybigfoot on October 21, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
Gardner is leading in every poll, yes, but his numbers are still looking suspiciously Buck 2010-esque. Still a very small sliver of hope.

Indeed, Buck was leading in almost all of the final polls, some of them by 4 points:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Colorado,_2010


I think it's a mistake to write off Udall, especially considering that Colorado now has mail-in voting as opposed to previous years.  


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Person Man on October 21, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
Of course, there's redistricting and voter laws that are the difference between 2010 and 2014, but are there any demographic changes to consider?


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Devils30 on October 21, 2014, 11:33:59 AM
Probably a couple points less white and more latino. That's about it. Buck  won whites by 7% and lost by 1.6. I assume Udall can lose whites by 9-10 with demographic change and win but once his deficit gets into the 11-13% range like the PPP poll I don't see it.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Maxwell on October 21, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Didn't Bennet win with sub-40 approvals as well ?

Anyway, still way too early to call this for Gardner. Udall still has a chance.

Yes, but his net-negatives weren't nearly as high as Udall's is right now. (Bennet was at -7, Udall is at -15). Also, unlike Buck, Gardner has a narrowly positive favorable rating.

No question Udall still has a shot at this.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: cinyc on October 21, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
I love that Udall is up by ten among those who have already voted, even though the GOP has a 15-point lead in early voting as of yesterday.


The sample size for that subsample is very small.   It is 1/4 of the sample, which is probably only around 100 voters.  That gives a margin of error around +/- 10.


Title: Re: CO-Monmouth: Gardner +1
Post by: Devils30 on October 21, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
The CO senate could be interesting because the districts that the GOP won in the recalls are very Democratic and with even moderate turnout could flip back even in a bad Dem year.